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House Passes Health Reform, But Without Reproductive Rights
The U.S. House of Representatives answered "the call of history" put to it by President Obama Saturday and voted 220-215 in favor of the most sweeping expansion of health-care coverage since the enactment of Medicare and Medicaid Act of 1965.
House Democrats burst into sustained applause at 11:08 EST as the majority-making 218th vote was cast in favor of the the Affordable Health Care for America Act.
The measure ultimately received the votes of 219 Democrats.
Only one Republican, Louisiana's Joseph Cao, supported it. (Cao, who represents an overwhelmingly-Democratic district dominated by the city of New Orleans, frequently breaks with the GOP leadership. He was one of the few Republicans who was seriously lobbied by the White House and Democratic leaders in the House, and it worked.)
Thirty-nine Democrats joined 176 Republicans in rejecting reforms that polls suggest are broadly supported by Americans.
A handful of "no" votes came from Democrats who felt that the legislation promoted by the Obama administration and House leaders was an inadequate response to the health care crisis. Among the progressive "no" voters was Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinich, a leading proponent of a single-payer "Medicare for All" system that would replace private insurance companies with a public program.
Said Kucinich:
This health care bill continues the redistribution of wealth to Wall Street at the expense of America's manufacturing and service economies which suffer from costs other countries do not have to bear, especially the cost of health care. America continues to stand out among all industrialized nations for its privatized health care system. As a result, we are less competitive in steel, automotive, aerospace and shipping while other countries subsidize their exports in these areas through socializing the cost of health care.
The reform plan shepherded through the House by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is indeed flawed, as even the speaker acknowledges.
But it dramatically expands options for the tens of millions of Americans who are not currently covered by private insurers.
That was enough for Pelosi, who accepted what was for her a bitter compromise on the issue of abortion in order to secure the votes needed to pass the measure.
Late Saturday night, the speaker announced that her chamber had indeed "made history" with its endorsement of the reform plan.
Epic depictions of the House vote were commonplace Saturday, as Democrats compared their measure with historic legislation of the past.
"This is an historic moment for our nation. House passage of H.R. 3962, the Affordable Health Care for America Act, marks the first step toward ensuring health care for all Americans," said Wisconsin Democrat Tammy Baldwin, who helped craft the legislation as a member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. "I truly believe that we'll look back years from now and view the passage of this Act to be as significant as the passage of the Social Security Act in 1935 and the Medicare and Medicaid Act in 1965."
In truth, the House merely wrote a first draft of history.
The Senate still must act on a very different reform proposal.
The House and Senate bills then must be reconciled, after which they will have to be approved once more by each chamber. Only after those final votes will the Obama have a chance to sign a health reform bill.
It will not be a quick or easy process, as was evident Saturday.
Before the House vote, Democratic representatives heard a "now is the time to finish the job" pep talk from Obama, which helped to achieve relative unity within a caucus that wrangled to the last minute over issues ranging from abortion to immigration to cost estimates for the $1 trillion bill.
Late Friday and early Saturday, bitter battling over the hot-button issue of abortion fight came close to derailing the debate.
House Democratic leaders were pressured by several dozen anti-choice Democrats to add language preventing federal funds from paying for abortions. To get the votes she needed, Pelosi found herself in the ugly position of bartering off assurances that low-income women would have access to reproductive health services.
The tortured final negotiations put serious cracks in Thomas Jefferson's "wall of separation" between church and state, as abortion foes such as Pennsylvania Democrat Jason Altmire openly acknowledged that they would not vote for health-care reform legislation unless they were told it was appropriate to do so by Catholic bishops in their home districts.
Pro-choice Democrats, led by Colorado Democrat Diana DeGette, pushed back.
That created a stalemate that Pelosi sought to break by allowing a vote on an amendment to establish limits on the funding of abortions within the new framework that would be established by the Affordable Health Care for America Act. Pro-choice Democrats opposed the amendment, with Illinois Democrat Jan Schakowsky, the co-chair of the Congressional Women's Caucus, urging her colleagues to vote against the move to restrict a woman's right to chose and force many women to pay more their insurance.
Said Schakowsky:
This amendment goes far beyond current law which already bans the use of federal funding for abortions. It goes far beyond the language already in this bill that guarantees no federal dollars are used for abortion. This amendment says that a woman CANNOT purchase coverage that includes abortion services using her own dollars; middle class women, using exclusively their own money will be prohibited from purchasing a plan including abortion coverage in every single public OR PRIVATE INSURANCE PLAN in the new health care exchange. Her only option is to buy a separate insurance policy that covers only abortion - a ridiculous and unworkable approach since no woman anticipates needing an abortion. This amendment is a radical departure from current law and will result in millions of women losing coverage they already have.This health reform bill is about improving access to care, not further restricting a woman's right to choose. Our bill is about lowering health care costs for millions of women and their families, not further marginalizing women by forcing them to pay more for their care. This amendment is a back door way of overturning Roe v. Wade; it is a disservice and insult to millions of women throughout our country. I urge my colleagues to vote against this amendment.
Despite Schakowsky's appropriately impassioned argument, the amendment was approved on a vote of 240 to 194. Sixty-four Democrats voted with 176 Republicans to attach the amendment that De Gette condemned as "the greatest restriction of a woman's right to choose" passed by Congress "in our career."
"Party of 'No'" opposition to reform was such that even pro-choice Republicans joined their anti-choice colleagues in a fully-unified GOP vote for the amendment.
The abortion fight, like a battle over restrictions on the coverage of immigrants that particularly upset members of the Hispanic Caucus, made Saturday a difficult and at times uncertain day for Pelosi and her lieutenants.
But Obama was confident enough to expend political capital on a calm, yet effective, appeal for Democratic unity.
The president made a classic "no bill can ever contain everything that everybody wants" appeal for what the vast majority of House Democrats agreed was -- despite its less-than-robust public option and the ugly compromise of abortion rights -- an imperfect-but-necessary piece of legislation.
Said Obama:
The bill that the House has produced will provide stability and security for Americans who have insurance; quality, affordable options for those who don't; and lower costs for American families and American businesses. And as I've insisted from the beginning, it is a bill that is fully paid for and will actually reduce our long-term federal deficit.This bill is change that the American people urgently need. Don't just take my word for it. Consider the national groups who've come out in support of this bill on behalf of their members: The Consumers Union supports it because it will create -- and I quote -- "a more secure, affordable health care system for the American people."
The American Medical Association and the American Nurses Association support it on behalf of doctors and nurses and medical professionals who know firsthand what's broken in our current system, and who see what happens when their patients can't get the care they need because of insurance industry bureaucracies.
The National Farmers Union supports this bill because it will control costs for farmers and ranchers, and address the unique challenges rural Americans face when it comes to receiving quality care.
And the AARP supports it because it will achieve the goal for which the AARP has been fighting for decades -- reducing the cost of health care, expanding coverage for America's seniors, and strengthening Medicare for the long haul.
Now, no bill can ever contain everything that everybody wants, or please every constituency and every district. That's an impossible task. But what is possible, what's in our grasp right now is the chance to prevent a future where every day 14,000 Americans continue to lose their health insurance, and every year 18,000 Americans die because they don't have it; a future where crushing costs keep small businesses from succeeding and big businesses from competing in the global economy; a future where countless dreams are deferred or scaled back because of a broken system we could have fixed when we had the chance.
What we can do right now is choose a better future and pass a bill that brings us to the very cusp of building what so many generations of Americans have sought to build -- a better health care system for this country.
Most House progressives accepted the "what-we-can-do-right-now" line as a reasonable one.
California Congressman Pete Stark, a senior Democrat who has advocated for decades on behalf of replacing the current for-profit scheme with a "Medicare for All" system, summed up progressive sentiments when he explained why he was voting for a measure that was far weaker than he would have preferred.
"At my age," said Stark, "I've learned to take what you can, when you can get it."
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Show AllStark learned that when he suckled at the wolverine's nipple.
(I assume that, like the rest of our Elected Misrepresentatives, he was not of woman born, nor by humans raised.)
And during his feral upbringing and subsequent criminal career, his outlook hasn't changed an iota.
· Yr Obd't Servant
feral or federal? thought i misread it till i realized they're inclusive...
Is this real life?
http://mobilizeforhealthcare.org/
The Democrats are COWARDS!!!! They FAILED when it came to women's rights and any female on the Democratic Party side who went along with crap should never ever say again they are out for the "rights of women" or reproductive rights!!!!
The Democrats are COWARDS!!!! They FAILED when it came to women's rights and any female on the Democratic Party side who went along with crap should never ever say again they are out for the "rights of women" or reproductive rights!!!!
The Democrats are Spineless....these women CAVED into the Catholic Church and the Christian nutjobs....America became a theocracy last night for God's sake!!!! Who says America is not a theocracy when churches start to make public policy!!!!
The Democrats are disgusting and this includes Nancy Pelosi. The Democrats appeased to the Catholic Bishops last night. The Democrats are a joke!!! What the "F" do these spineless, gutless Democrats stand for? These jerk Bishops and Catholics vote for the Republican Party anyhow these days in large numbers....The Democrats are STUPID!!!!
The Democratic Party has just said screw you to women who believe in choice. Thanks to the Democrats, they aid and abet the right wing radicals and Christian zealots who oppose abortion rights and women’s rights. You know in Nazi Germany, they came into power because the opposition caved and appeased the Hitler faction. The Democrats are WEAK!!!!! The Democratic Party stand for NOTHING!!!!! The Democrats have CORPORATE Led solutions and we all know what CORPRATIONS REALLY THINK of Women and their “rights.”
I am an unabashedly Leftist Here and DO NOT LIKE THE DEMOCRATS appeasement, equivocation and sellout of leftist/progressive policies to the right wing Repukes. Unlike the spineless Democrats, I am not afraid to say that I am a Proud Leftist and not afraid to stand up for these values. The country has moved so far to the right that too many "liberals-progressives" think that conservative to moderate Democrats who oppose the far right Fascists of the GOP believe in liberalism or progressivism. NOT!!!!
The "liberal-progressive" rhetoric the Democratic Party uses on the talk shows and even that is less frequent that you all realize should tell you things which you are all intelligent enough to figure out.
It is the Democratic Leadership Council Runs the Dem Party's Agenda, and not the "liberal-progressive" base. It is time that you all understand this. The Democratic Party has diminished the values and voices of its "liberal-progressive" base ever since it formed the Democratic Leadership Council. The Democratic Party takes it leftist/progressive base for granted and when push comes to shove, goes with the Democratic Leadership Council agenda which is GOP-Lite, corporate centered, and favors a militarized foreign policy agenda built on “bipartisanship.”
Liberal and Feminist Women have fell victim to the male-inspired Democratic Leadership Council. The sooner you all understand these realities and deal with it after confronting the facts, then you see why being a "liberal/progressive" Democrats now means very little. The Democrats may as well go on FOX News and bash women for what they did yesterday, The Democratic Party have become liabilities on social and civil rights issues!!!!!!
From Gay Rights to Wage Earning/Jobs to Women’s Reproductive Health Issues, the Democrats now look to maintain their grip on power while compromising the core values of its leftist/progressive base. Obama and the Democratic Party today are closer to the Catholic Church and Christian Fundamentalists on issues of:
1. Women’s right to choose –Yes a WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT SHE DOES WITH HER OWN BODY!!!!!!
2. Gay Rights – DADT, Gay Marriage – which Obama and the Democratic National Committee did nothing about in Maine last week, and supports the Defense of Marriage Act.
3. Democrats continue the big Spending on Defense Budgets and endless war funding.
Barack Obama will soon be sending over 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, yet, the leftist/progressive base still fail to see the president as a center-right corporate-militarist leader of which he has proven to be. Obama will not be looking into signing any real international agreements to curb emissions. Obama is turning into a failure on environmental issues as well.
I've been writing here that Obama is a Republican in Democrat's clothing since February 2008. Some progressives who supported him are still in deep denial, but many others are swallowing their own spit.
Adding insult to injury, corporate-media pundits and gate-keepers are now falsely identifying disaffected Democrats on the Left as independent centrists. (If you're an independent, you must be a centrist?) They council Obama and the Dems to move even further to the Right (in order to appeal to disaffected Leftists).
Meanwhile, in poll after poll, 60% of Americans say they want a Canadian-style, single-payer health insurance system. Only 30% oppose it, and 10% have no opinion. Two out of every three Americans support the Leftist position.
Obama (the fake Democrat) took single-payer off the table, and now the Dems in the House (including the progressives) stupidly vote to win a "victory" for the party, rather than voting for what is both in the public interest and overwhelmingly popular.
The fight is not yet over. Call (don't write) your Senators and express your support for single-payer. We should hope the current bill is defeated, so we can start over and have what two-thirds want: a single-payer national health insurance program.
I am waiting to see an analysis of how the cost burdens are distributed between the public and the insurance companies. How much is being asked of the consumer, the taxpayers and what is the responsibility of the insurance companies to offer low cost coverage and limit profits? Dennis Kucinich says that about 6 million will be eligible for the public option. That figure would barely cover those newly laid off last year. What controls will be put on the insurance companies as they accept taxpayer subsidies on policies for low income people? Will our tax money go to enormous pay and bonuses for those at top, or will it be used to improve coverage? What kind of costs will be considered reasonable for a family of 4 making $60,000?
So I hope that someone smarter than I will give us a breakdown of what we are likely to face, if the Senate passes something.
By the way - if any organization starts a co-op insurance plan to cover safe abortions, I would contribute. I don't like abortions as a method of birth control, but I dislike bringing unwanted children into the world even more and I dislike subjecting young women to dangerous conditions. I am infuriated by the hypocrisy of the Congressional millionaires, many of whom have had abortions or whose wives and daughters have as well.
Joe
"What kind of costs will be considered reasonable for a family of 4 making $60,000?"
12% for a family of four making $88,000. A somewhat smaller percentage for a $60,000 family. Plus deductibles and co-pays -- up to $10,000/year. And you get limited and capped coverage. (Remember, insurance companies would not go away under this bill. They still get to write the policies that government requires you buy -- under penalty of fines and prison.)
But, that's in the House bill. The Senate may want to put even more of the costs on consumers.
EDIT: Under the Senate Finance Committee’s bill, the 12% is only for the first year. "But in the second year, it changes. From then on, it is based on a percentage of the premium that was paid the first year, no matter how far premiums rise... Because premiums generally rise faster than wages, consumers ... would pay a larger percentage of their incomes toward premiums over time."
See: http://www.businessword.com/index.php?/weblog/comments/2931/
Here's a list of who said they'd vote NO on a health care bill this bad in July and who lied.
Note: Only Dennis Kucinich and Eric Massa kept their word.
Media Darlings Alan Grayson and Anthony Weiner voted yes.
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/uploads/57%20member%20letter
%20to%20PelosiWaxman%207%2030%2009.pdf
This bill legitimizes by law the insurance industry fleecing of the American public by forcing by law Americans to buy insurance from insurance companies who only use approximately 74 to 84 cents of every dollar towards actual health care, depending on the company and type of coverage (recent Sen Rockefeller study). The rest goes to profit, bonuses, administration, advertising, and lobbying the government.
The insurance industry has already threatened to raise rates if this bill passes. And this bill states that if you don't buy insurance coverage, you will imposed a tax surcharge.
Proponents of the bill argue it is a first step. Wrong, this bill will get worse once the Senate waters it down, if it passes at all. In addition, if it passess, it will take years to implement, meanwhile Congress can say it has washed its hands of any further obligation and will do nothing, just as it has sat on its hands since the mid-1990s when it failed to pass healthcare legislation. In addition, this will probably be the last time in a long while Democrats will actually control Congress, with 60 Senate seats, and the presidency. This bill is worse than nothing, because with nothing, negotiations could continue until Democrats get it right.
This was the moment for Democrats and they let the insurance industry water this bill down and turn it into a rag-tag piece of legislation that nobody likes except the politicians who passed it. If the Democrats can't get it right with the majorities they have in Congress, they need to be voted out.
A real "first step" would have been the Kucinich proposal allowing states to opt for Single-Payer.
Dennis works so damn hard for us and seems to be constantly bounced out of any sane legislation he puts forth. "WE" no longer have a voice unless this man is put in the W.H. in 2012. Of course that isn't a guarantee for CHANGE either if the same millionaires are put back into Congress.
Kucinich is one option for 2012; however, voting for independents outside the Democratic party is another option. The problem Kucinich and other non mainstream Democrats had in past Democratic primaries is that the Democratic party undermines the so-called fringe candidates by limiting their participation in debates, such as when Kucinich was not allowed to participate in the Des Moine, Iowa debate. Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were caught in an open microphone discussion talking about getting rid of the so called "fringe candidates" in future debates. In addition, there was nothing said by the Democratic party when MSM gave most of the debate time to candidates such as Hillary and Edwards. Candidates like Gravel and Kucinich were window decoration in the debates as the party undermined these candidates. Kucinich's actions are commendable but he is working within a corrupt party. Pesonally, I'll devote more time to independent parties, as I've been burned by Democrats in the past.
There are rumors of him "going green". Great move if true, but....
EXCEPT, of course that it reneges on No Account Obama's own DEM pledge of single-payer when DEMs in control!
Obama is a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am done ever voting for the Democratic Party again!
My votes only go to third party candidates from now on and mostly Green Party candidates....
Dems act like Right wingers and GOP-lite and then lie about it!
You are just getting around to this? It's been going on for a long time. I'm always amazed at the tractability of the 'average' American.
It should be noted that Kucinich was the lone progressive to vote "No". All the rest of the 35 democrats who voted no were of the conservative republicanoid type.
So let no one criticize Kucinich for not standing for his principles. He better get geared up for the '10 elections - the democrats are going to go after him full-guns in the primaries.
Eric Massa (D, NY) was the other progressive who voted "no."
Thanks, I'll start following Rep. Massa.
How is a "progressive" Massa able to cheer the slaughter of ghetto prisoners from the air?
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll838.xml
Eric Massa (D, NY) was the other progressive who voted "no."
Kucinich's vote was merely a token. If the bill had been in danger of failing, he would've changed his vote.
I'm sorry, Friend. Are you psychic or just overly cynical? Bad mouthing one of the only voices "We the People" have in the government makes no sense to me.
I doubt it.
Joe
With all due respect for Kucinich he is a token liberal because he cannot affect change with his LONE vote. I met Kucinich in 2003 when he was running for the D primary and I asked him why he stays in the Democratic Party when he is constantly dismissed by the DNC and his fellow Dems constantly betray the people and the liberals and he said "I know this sounds naive, but I think I can change the party from within."
Well, either Dennis is naive or a tool.....I think he is a tool and he is going along with the appearance of being a good Democrat to keep us on the left corraled under the big tent so the Dems have ONE person who represents us, but will ALWAYS be neutered! PEOPLE...PLEASE.....GIVE UP YOUR HOPES ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY....THEY ARE NOT US...POOR AND WORKING CLASS PEOPLE WITH HUGE PROBLEMS OF INJUSTICE BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF US ON A DAILY BASIS!!!
The sooner everyone who is poor, working poor, a woman, a minority get this the sooner we can stand together and overturn this lousy-excuse for a "democratic" republic!!! Really...haven't you suffered enough??? I have!!
Will the neo-liberal internet coalition that functions like a military psychological warfare unit hold Obama accountable for what he said this bill is about if it turns out he is wrong?
Obama said:
"The bill that the House has produced will provide stability and security for Americans who have insurance; quality, affordable options for those who don't; and lower costs for American families and American businesses. And as I've insisted from the beginning, it is a bill that is fully paid for and will actually reduce our long-term federal deficit."
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While he went on to say that "Now, no bill can ever contain everything that everybody wants, or please every constituency..." The only constituency left out of any consideration were the voices for single payer and women's rights. While core constituencies of the Democratic Party were never seated, even Obama's faith-based constituency got considered.
So far, if you look at the last election has being a substitution of the causes Democrats allegedly stood with Obama himself as the cause, it all makes sense. He has trashed every cause Democrats ever hoped for, beginning with getting the corruption of money out of our elections.
Will the neo-Left hold him accountable if this turns out to be a program for making the already too big to fail drug and disease juggernaut even bigger while it sucks in more of our wages and carries even more clout in "our" House? Probably not. They'll be too busy rationalizing his wars.
I think that you are using the term "neo-liberal" incorrectly.
Neoliberalism is the promotion of unrestrained capitalism and the privatization of public resources.
No, I was not referring to neo-liberalism, which is why I used the term neo-Left. I am referring to the faux Left, Obama Party in the spirit of the quote from Susskind's book in which he quoted a neo-con saying they would seamlessly continue their agenda by moving from the party they destroyed to a fresh one. Next stop will be the now majority party, the independent movement, since neither the Democrats or the Republicans are capable of meeting the real concerns of the public.
Here's the Prez: This bill is change that the American people urgently need. Don't just take my word for it. Consider the national groups who've come out in support of this bill on behalf of their members..."
He names, among others, the AMA. Why did the AMA support it? Because it would help the American people have affordable insurance and affordable care? Don't be silly! Here, from a blog aptly titled "Obamacare endorsements: What the bribe was":
As the suicidal Democratic congressmen proceed to rubber-stamp the Obama healthcare reform despite the drubbing their party took in the ’09 elections, the president trotted out the endorsements of the AMA and the AARP to stimulate support. But these — and the other endorsements — his package has received are all bought and paid for. Here are the deals:
· The American Medical Association (AMA) was facing a 21 percent cut in physicians’ reimbursements under the current law. Obama promised to kill the cut if they backed his bill. The cuts are the fruit of a law requiring annual 5-6 percent reductions in doctor reimbursements for treating Medicare patients. Bravely, each year Congress has rolled the cuts over, suspending them but not repealing them. So each year, the accumulated cuts threaten doctors. By now, they have risen to 21 percent. With this blackmail leverage, Obama compelled the AMA to support his bill … or else!
More at:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66717-obamacare-endorsements-what-the-bribe-was
That Nichols thinks this bill is good somehow--that it's "reform"--proves how skewed is his perspective. It's a fucking SOP to the Inscrewus Industry and by extension Wall Street.
Nichols is as skewed as the rest of the editors at The Nation.
When government is controlled by corporations, and corporate interests are shoved down the throats of the people, when fear of the boogeyman makes a populace surrender its civil rights in favor of 'security', and when the mainstream media is owned by the same corporations, what do you have? In Deutscheland 1938 it was called the National Socialist Party. You remember, the German nickname, and the one we used, was NAZI. Check out Homeland Security on our borders [I live next to Canada]. They do not wear brown shirts and Sam Brown belts, but they might as well. LISTEN to the Fox mouthpieces and what they say [check them against Nazi propagandists of the thirties]. Americans tend to encapsulate and separate information. But it all fits together in the real world. Massive on going wars, fear of the boogeyman, the populace as resource for the rich [e.g. this 'health insurance' scam in D.C.], major public media as a mouthpiece for military-industrial complex. Population control [I can't even cross into Canada without a government issued license or passport which contains a GPS chip so they can track me]. We live in a fascist state. And most people do not care.
Good lord, that broad Marcy Kaptur was on CSPAN praising the Stupak anti-abortion section.
Wasn't she in that Michael Moore film telling people we've had a financial coup d'etat by the banking industry?
Why are people still voting for Democrats?
Especially after this pathetic bill passes making people common criminals if they don't purchase health care.
Marcy Kaptur is a FRAUD......
I said this last week and some wise cracker who saw her yucking it up with Bill Moyers did not like how I exposed this phony-ass "liberal" for what she is--A FRAUD!!!!
Marcy Kaptur is also under an ethics investigation. This woman is TRASH and someone who betrayed all women when she claims to be this wonderful "progressive." NOT!!!
Abortion is covered as a medical procedure in most European
countries and Canada --
The right wing religious fantasy is still being lived by the
Democrats who join them in prayer in Congress and in giving
taxpayer money to religious organizations . . . and
by the way . . .
The Catholic Church is being investigated for having used
this taxpayer money to pay off their lawsuits for sexual
abuse of children by their priests!!!
Meanwhile, we should target the Blue Dogs and the DLC . . .
putting the Republicans back in power won't work --
HOWEVER, if we can find a way for the liberal/progressive
block to move as one into a third party, then we've got
something to talk about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
On July 30th of this year, 57 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus said this about health care reform:
"Any bill that does not provide, at a minimum, for a public option with reimbursement rates based on Medicare rates -not negotiated rates -is unacceptable. It would ensure higher costs for the public plan, and would do nothing to achieve the goal of"keeping insurance companies honest," and their rates down."
Incredibly, in a stunning display of mass cowardice before corporate power, only two of the 57 kept their commitment, Dennis Kucinich and Eric Massa. My praise goes to them, their courage, and their commitment to their word. Bravo!
The other 55, the cowardly, lying 55, broke their word to the American progressive citizenry.
My only hope for them is when the final bill comes back from conference committee, surely in even less-progressive condition, that they will re-examine their consciences and vote no. But based on this betrayal of their written commitment of July 30, I have no hope that they will. They have no spines. No courage. No commitment to anything they say. They caved. They are worse than the conservatives who at least have the courage of their corporate convictions.
Here are the cowardly, lying, spineless 55:
Lynn Woolsey
Raul Grijalva
Carolyn Kilpatrick
Jerry Nadler
Phil Hare
Lucille Roybal-Allard
Keith Ellison
Earl Blumenauer
Mel Watts
Donna Edwards
John Olver
Laura Richardson
Maxine Waters
John Conyers
Judy Chu
Maurice Hinchey
Hank Johnson
Diane Watson
Jackie Speier
Bill Pascrell
Lloyd Doggett
Marcy Kaptur
Mazie Hirono
Bob Filner
Linda Sanchez
Marcia Fudge
Barbara Lee
Andre Carson
Sheila Jackson Lee
Michael Honda
Jim McDermott
William Lacy Clay
Jim McGovern
Yvette Clarke
Chellie Pingree
Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Elijah Cummings
Bennie Thompson
Gwen Moore
Donald Payne
Fortney "Pete" Stark
Ed Towns
Corrine Brown
Alcee Hastings
Nydia Valezquez
Luis Gutierrez
Grace Napolitano
Albio Sires
John Tierney
Mike Capuano
Chaka Fattah
Jose Serrano
Sam Farr
Bill Delahunt
Eddie Bernice Johnson
I personally will never again trust what these individuals say, only what they do. They have violated the trust of progressives with their cowardly caving to corporate power. They are liars all.
Here is the e-mail address of the Congressional Progressive Caucus for sending a message urging them to grow spines for the final vote:
progressive@mail.house.gov
The vote was 220 to 215. Dems were lucky to just barely get it through. It's ironic that our man Dennis Kucinich voted with Dem cons on this, though for different reasons.
The best solution could be to vote out all conservative Democrats, then lib Dems won't be put into the position of having to water down their bills to get them past the con Dems.
Thanks for posting. Tammy Baldwin just lost my vote and will send my financial and voting support to the guy who is considering running against her because of her soft support for the only reform plan, single payer.
For those people who are interested, there will be an extremely informative and interesting program on health care this Tuesday evening on PBS' Frontline program entitled Sick Around the World. It has the writer T.R. Reid, who wrote the excellent book The Healing of America: A Global Quest for Better, Cheaper, and Fairer Health Care, traveling to different countries around the world to discover why they are able to provide universal health care for its citizens while the United States languishes with its broken down health care system.
T.R. Reid didn't have to fly around the world to find out why USan healthcare costs twice what it should. The answer is well-known. The USA has fallen into corruption that adversely affects the functioning of its markets and the effectiveness of its policies. The people are unable to demand/get best value in either the economic or political arenas. You can compare the USA with other countries today, or compare it with itself fifty years ago. Socio-political and socio-economic situations are usually not so cut and dried but the modern USA stands out like a sore thumb in any comparison. USan elites created this situation with the decision to dumb down USans, turn them into consumption slaves, and export their industrial base.
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Your points are well taken but they should not deter people from tuning in on Tuesday to see how other countries are able to make sure that the health care needs of its citizens are met while doing so at a fraction of the cost of the United States. I saw the program when it aired back in 2008, I believe, and my recollection is that it was very well with many interesting stories to tell. I will be watching again on Tuesday to see if my memory is indeed accurate. And as well done as Sick Around the World is, Reid's book {The Healing of America], because it goes into more depth than the Frontline piece, is even better, in my opinion, than the PBS program.
Can you believe....John Conyers (HR676 main sponsor) signs anything OTHER than Single Payer??? What a slime-bag!! They all SUCK!! We must revolt!! I am sad to say I live in Portland, OR and even the liberals at the UU church are ready to give in to public option (two of three people today who are buying the "go public option until we can kick the legs out from underneath and then we will get Single Payer" are ALREADY ON MEDICARE...so what do they care that I will have to wait and play russian roulette with my health for more years...I'm at 14 yrs. w/o insurance right now...UNTIL we get some leaders with spine AND heart in office. The third guy had insurance and a good paying job...he just buys into getting some crap until we can get Single Payer enacted)! We are doomed by the "progressives" who just don't get it!!! I am more offended by my so-called left-thinking friends than by anything the Republicans do!! They should KNOW better!!! No courage!!! We are screwed!!
You guys act like it was impossible to see this coming.
Gee, Brand Obama, thanks for making the return of the back alley abortion provider and their coat-hanger hooks a reality. Thank you for driving the teen pregnancy rate and poverty birthrate through the roof in the near future.
Now that's 'Change You Can Believe In(tm)'!
Roe v Wade is the law I thought. As the article notes, H.R. 3962 undermines it.
Can the ACLU or Womankind, even Woman-hoods challenge this?
Can legislation materially contravene the Supreme Court?
How 'bout they vote an all Catholic bench to abort women's rights; turn R v. W into ashes?
Womankind can challenge it by refusing to have sexual intercourse, but it won't.
The headline "...But Without Reproductive Rights" implies this insurance won't cover fertility treatments and artificial insemination either. Does anyone know if this is the case?
Something needs to be done about the influences churches like the RCC and LDS have on public policy. They should have to pay to ride this pony at the very least.
Commence EPIC WHIIIIIIIINING!
Mush is what house passed.
Courageous? Pul-eese.... ok, more people are somewhat covered--not Cadillac insurance, mind you, more like roller skater insurance--if you fall and bruise your knees, the first knee is a $25 co-pay, the second in $1000. No single payer, no cost cutting. The insurance companies (AARP included!) are ecstatic --millions more customers at government expense.
Snafu gone fubar -
So, at what line can we opt out of the mess?
(BTW, "reform" is just the advertising tag here. Stop using it!!
This is transmogrification -- this is reform like Dr. Moreau is a plastic surgeon. )