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Obama Confronts Democratic Skepticism
WASHINGTON - Growing skepticism among key Democratic lawmakers about the U.S. commitment to the war in Afghanistan is certain to pose one of the most difficult political challenges faced by President Barack Obama in his first year in office.
Soldiers from the US coalition forces patrol through the streets of Kabul on September 3, 2009. (AFP/File/Shah Marai) With the military apparently preparing to press for a significant increase in the number of U.S. troops deployed to combat an increasingly effective Taliban insurgency, Obama, who recently called the conflict a "war of necessity", will soon be forced to decide whether to grant the request at the risk of alienating many in his own party.
His decision will likely not be made any easier by enthusiastic Republican backing for the military's anticipated recommendations. Neo-conservatives and other hawks have been arguing for weeks that anything less than "victory" in Afghanistan may well have catastrophic consequences for U.S. national security not only in Afghanistan, but Pakistan and beyond.
"We are confident that not only is (the war) winnable, but that we have no choice," wrote Republican Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and the hawkish independent Democrat Joseph Lieberman in the Wall Street Journal Monday.
"We must prevail in Afghanistan," they went on, insisting that preventing a Taliban takeover "remains a clear, vital national interest of the United States".
Their column was entitled "Only Decisive Force Can Prevail in Afghanistan."
The increasingly polarized debate was on display Tuesday during the reconfirmation hearings of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, who told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Washington will likely have to send more troops to Afghanistan if its new counterinsurgency strategy led by Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal was to have any hope for success.
"A properly resourced counterinsurgency probably means more forces, and, without question, more time and more commitment to the protection of the Afghan people and to the development of good governance," he said, although he declined to cite the number of additional troops he intends to request.
McCain quickly agreed. "We will need more U.S. combat forces in Afghanistan, not less or the same amount we have today," he asserted, arguing that, much like the so-called "Surge" in Iraq, more U.S. troops were needed to hold off the insurgents until the indigenous forces could carry the burden.
But Sen. Carl Levin, the committee chairman, insisted that Washington and its NATO allies should first accelerate the training and equipping of Afghan forces before additional U.S. troops should be sent to the theater.
Such an effort, said Levin, who returned from a visit to Afghanistan just last week, "would demonstrate our commitment to the success of the mission that is in our national security interest, while avoiding the risks associated with a larger U.S. footprint".
"(T)hese steps should be urgently implemented before we consider a further increase in U.S. ground combat troops, beyond what is already planned to be deployed by the end of the year," he said.
Shortly after taking office, Obama, who had argued during his presidential campaign that the administration of his predecessor, George W. Bush, had made a major strategic mistake by diverting resources from Afghanistan to Iraq after the Taliban's ouster in late 2001, authorized the deployment of 17,500 more U.S. combat troops and 4,000 trainers to Afghanistan.
That deployment is expected to be completed by the end of this month this fall, bringing the total number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan to some 68,000. Some 39,000 NATO forces are also deployed there.
This year's increase in troop strength, however, has not yet translated into a more secure environment; indeed, attacks against U.S. and NATO forces - and against Afghan civilian targets - have steadily increased since the spring. Well over 300 U.S. and NATO troops have been killed so far in 2009, the highest toll for any year in a war that is now eight years old.
In addition to the mounting casualties and war fatigue, the increasingly notorious corruption of the government of President Hamid Karzai and the widespread fraud apparently committed to secure his re-election have contributed to a distinct shift in public opinion over the past couple of months, a trend that appears to have accelerated in recent weeks.
A CNN poll taken late last month found that 57 percent of the public now opposes the war, up from 46 percent in April. According to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released Tuesday, only one in four respondents - and less than one in five self-identified Democrats - favour Mullen's appeal to send more troops to Afghanistan.
Moreover, for the first time the percentage of those respondents who said they believed that winning in Afghanistan was essential for success in the "war on terrorism" fell to below 50 percent.
Leading Democratic lawmakers, who until now have tried to avoid any criticism of the war Obama has made a top priority, appear to be following the public's lead, especially in the last week.
"I don't think there's a great deal of support sending more troops to Afghanistan in the country or in the Congress," noted the powerful Speaker of the House of Representatives, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, last Thursday, a statement whose truth was underlined by a confidential National Journal survey of Democratic lawmakers that found that only 13 percent supported increasing the number of troops.
"I think at this point sending additional troops would not be the right thing to do," said Sen. Dick Durbin, a staunch and long-time supporter of the president, over the weekend. "(L)et the Afghans bring stability to their own country. Let's work with them to make that happen."
A major emerging theme among the war's critics, particularly Democrats, is that Obama could meet a similar fate in Afghanistan as former president Lyndon Johnson in Vietnam. Like Johnson 40 years ago, Obama has an ambitious domestic reform agenda that risks, in the view of some observers, being undone by an increasingly unpopular and costly war.
In an interview with the New York Times and CNBC Monday, Obama rejected the parallel but confessed he was concerned about "the dangers of overreach and not having clear goals and not having strong support from the American people".
McChrystal, who is reportedly putting the final touches on his recommendations to Obama, is expected to echo the Democrats' calls for accelerating the build-up of the Afghan army and policy, in part by sending more U.S. trainers, and to request more combat troops, as well.
While commanders in the field have suggested as many as 45,000 more troops in order to contain and begin reclaiming territory from the Taliban, most observers believe McChrystal and the military brass, in recognition of the growing public scepticism, will request at most half that number.
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Show Allwhat a catchy title.... Obama states the obvious and he is said to be "confronting". nice spin.
The "obvious"? Am I therefore correct, hannak, in considering you to be one of those misguided souls who agrees that Afghanistan is a "war of necessity"?
The Democrats are supposed to be "skeptical" of what Obama is doing in Afghanistan? One suspects that one has a greater chance of hitting the Mega Millions or Powerball lottery than one has of seeing that [alleged] skepticism manifest itself by demanding an immediate withdrawal of all US forces from that occupied country and/or calling for an end of the funds to Afghanistan [and Iraq] while also recognizing that slashing the military budget [which is long overdue] by at least 20 per cent should be a priority as that money could then be used to supply health care in this country such as a single payer system.
Skeptical? It has been eight long years since the Americans have attempted to exert their will against the Afghans, mostly to no avail. The Democrats have still not gotten it through their collective heads that the Afghans, like the Vietnamese, will not rest until the Americans are driven from their soil. Were the Democrats asleep when the US was bombing and killing over 3 million Vietnamese during the Vietnam War? Do they now think that dropping 500 lb. and 2000 lb. bombs on Afghans is somehow supposed to be justified? Or do they believe, like the first George Bush during the Persian Gulf War, that the United States will now somehow lick the Vietnam syndrome? While the Democrats seem to have erased from their memories that the United States actually lost in Vietnam, it is highly unlikely that the Afghans have forgotten that the Vietnamese would not allow themselves to be occupied by the United States.
Afghans-resist the American empire!
And it's 1, 2, 3, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn -
next stop's Afghanistan!
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Thanks, Country Joe and the Fish. Some tunes are simply timeless.
Please see http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/updated-version-of-i-feel-like-im-fixin-to-die-rag-by-ed-ciaccio/.
Dandelion Salad posted my parody on August 9, 2009.
Excellent update Ed,
I will sing it at our next jam.
"I-Feel-Like-I’m-Fixin’-To-Die Rag
by Country Joe McDonald
(only slightly updated by Ed Ciaccio)
Yeah, all you patriotic women and men,
President Obama needs your help again.
He’s got himself in a terrible jam
Way over there in Afghanistan.
So put down your iPhones and pick up a gun,
We’re gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it’s one, two, three,
What are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
Next stop is Afghanistan;
And it’s five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain’t no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! We’re all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let’s move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out and get those ragheads —
The only good Muslim is the one who’s dead,
And you know that peace can only be won
When we’ve blown ‘em all to kingdom come.
Well, come on Wall Street, time to invest
In the war racket, ’cause it’s the best.
There’s plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Pentagon with tools of the trade.
Just hope and pray that our killer drones
Kill their terrorists and not our own.
Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your kids off to Afghanistan.
Come on fathers, don’t hesitate,
Send ‘em off before it’s too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your child come home in a box.
And it’s one, two, three
What are we fighting for?
Don’t ask me, I don’t give a damn,
Next stop is Afghanistan.
And it’s five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain’t no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! We’re all gonna die."
Those lyrics are extremely topical and relevant, reminiscent, of course, of Country Joe's paen to the idiocy of the Vietnam War. This begs the question as to when some enterprising rock band today will sing this song to alert the masses of what the militant Obama is doing in the Middle East. This song is one that demands to be recorded today in order to awaken the brain dead Americans from their stupor and realize that American soldiers are getting blown up needlessly and that Afghans are getting slaughtered for absolutely no justifiable reason whatsoever. Are there no progressive bands today that can pick up where Country Joe and the Fish left off? But then if a band does record and play this song in public venues, the question is will the mainstream media cover that event and that song. Or is the audacity and bravado of someone in rock limited today to taking away the microphone of a recipient at a music awards event?
Erroll sez: "But then if a band does record and play this song in public venues, the question is will the mainstream media cover that event and that song."
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Oh, the Assimilated Press will cover it, all right ... like it did The Dixie Chicks.
There are newer anti-war songs by Edwin Starr, Pink, Bruce Springsteen, Dixie Chicks, etc. and many rappers, which are listed here. http://www.daveyd.com/commentarylantiwarsonglist.html
The problem, as you say, is that they are not played much. We should make sure every march and meeting has some good music, the new as well as the classics from the sixties.
Joe
My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken us and allowed such low-life pigs like Lieberman to shape this evil and destructive course of action against humanity. You know that there is no hope left for the decent people that believed that all this suffering would disappear once we had a new administration of hope--but Lord God Almighty they have only brought us hopelessness. Strike them down with your mighty hand Oh Lord, That your mighty power may be revealed to all the world that you will not tolerate their blatant injustice-- and bring us your peace, Amen.
Only yesterday, I discovered when I went to the bank that our economic situation is not really over. The discovery was of the new, probably bullet proof plastic wall that they had erected between the customers and the tellers with tiny drawers to place the transactions through--when I saw this I was reminded how in small Caribbean island countries they have armed-men sweeping the areas with their rifles as they transfer the money to the armored-trucks I guess as a proactive measure against robbery--It reminded me that it's today really all about the Benjamins. But I say:
What does a nation profit if they gain the whole world but looses its soul--Folks we are and have been loosing our collective soul--May God have mercy on us.
Capt. Jim, I want to say this as gently as possible because I do feel your pain. Not even God can bring Peace by Striking Down.
If we are to gain what may pass for a soul, we need to realize that Peace is an Attitude, not an Achievement.
I'm glad that Obama has been such a blatant sell-out so quickly. All this waiting around for someOne or someThing like God to show the way, to fight for the right, is part of the problem. Everybody thinks that they are right, and that their god should side with them.
My god supports everyone. My god kisses me with a breeze, holds me in a snowstorm, and sustains me with the lavish outpouring of gifts on this planet. My god's power IS visible, revealed IN all the world FOR all the world. Justice is just a human construct, like profit, like right and wrong, like striking down our enemies to bring peace to ourselves. We need to stop speaking in those terms if we are ever going to mature and survive as a species.
P.S. I also gently recommend that you get your money out of that bank.
Hey elainem--I am still laughing about your bank remark--I thought of that. And My God is all that you say and more--but HeShe is A God of Love and Justice--look at us today--does it seem to you that God is blessing this nation?
What enormous stupidity and waste. Who do the armed forces of the USA serve? Surely not USAers who pay taxes. I thank everyday the minor intelligence in Ottawa that determined Canada will bring to an end it's involvement in the ongoing War Crime known as the Occupation of Afghanistan.
Is USA foreign policy made in the USA? I don't think so.
Boycott, embargo, blockade "Israel".
Sophie Scholl-The Final Days
**Who do the armed forces of the USA serve?**
They serve the Elites, naturally -- none of whom ever carried a gun or sweated under fire in their lives, with a few exceptions; and when you join the Elites, you promptly sweep such experience under the rug, or else you'll be an ex-Elite before you can say Jack Robinson.
The old myth of the American "citizen-soldier" is dead, killed by this country's post-Vietnam conflicts as it became more and more an empire. They don't fight and die for Mom, apple pie, and the girl they left behind any more; they fight and die, just like the Romans and the Victorian-era British, for the rich fatcats back home.
“The tragedy of modern war is that the young men die fighting each other--instead of their real enemies back home in the capitals.” ~ Edward Abbey
Daniel Ellsberg, who should know, calls our Afghan war "Vietnamistan".
The fools and chickenhawks, Democratic and RepubliKKKlan, who refuse to learn from our own recent, bitter history, will blunder onward and our soldiers and the people of Afghanistan and Pakistan will pay the awful, bloody price.
We MUST call them out and tell them off. The stakes are much too high for politeness.
Unless and until WE get real control of our government from all these Corporatist/Militarists both in and outside of government, "democracy" here is a sham and we will continue to suffer for their utter stupidity and hubris.
Please, give me a break. The so called skepticism is nothing but a red herring. The only skepticism is how to fight the war in Afghanistan, not how to end it.
sorry, double post.
"What ambitious domestic reform agenda?"
Good question. I ask this of Obama supporters everyday, yet I never get a clear answer.
Obama supporters, we know you're still there. Please help us out here!
Neo-conservatives and other hawks have been arguing for weeks that anything less than "victory" in Afghanistan may well have catastrophic consequences for U.S. national security not only in Afghanistan, but Pakistan and beyond.
Starting around 1967 or '68, this is what you what you constantly heard about "victory" in the Vietnam War: if we lose in Vietnam there will be a second Korean War, Japan will fall to communism as will the Phillipines and Taiwan. The United States will be driven out of Asia and eventually out of the entire Pacific, as Japan did to us at the beginning of World War II. Blah blah blah. Well, we lost the Vietnam War and none of those things ever happened. If we get out of Afghanistan now none of the dire predictions will take place. But the dick 'n balls crowd (see the article on Jamie Rubin elsewhere) consisting of fevered, bloodthirsty Republicans and chardonnay sipping "cruise missile liberals" (thank you, Jeremy Scahill) can see only a complete penectomy resulting from an Afghanistan withdrawal. All these swinging dicks think they're walking around with a pecker as long as Mark Wahlberg's in "Boogie Nights". In fact, if they would care to drop their shorts and grab a magnifying glass, they might be able to locate the flyspeck that passes for their "manhood".
WTF is "victory" supposed to mean in this context? We win if we can get the Afghans to start supporting our puppet government, instead of resisting? Good luck with that - I'm sure more military action will bring that goal about! Afghans love being killed by foreigners, I've heard.
When they call Afghanistan the graveyard of empires, did they envision that the empires would dig their own graves like this?
"Victory" is what the military-industrial corporate kleptocracy experiences every day when weapons are made and purchased, "services" are outsourced and contracted, and volunteers from the undesired classes are shipped off to die instead of populate the unemployment lines.
"Victory" is already here, and not going anywhere anytime soon.
corvo, great assessment of MIC looting.
BTW, I just heard a report that the US now sells more than two thirds (2/3) of all the weapon sales in the world to other countries.
Add that to the fact that in the US itself the defense budget is more than all other countries combined and it is clear that the US is the single-handed "merchant of death" for our whole world ---- without even counting the environment killing impact of the US.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford. Maine
That just might be true--good points
Those right-wing fanatics talk about victory and a winnable war in Afghanistan and in Iraq, as if anybody knew what that sort of nonsense talk is supposed to mean.
To such piffle, Obamination is now adding his own brand of inept verbiage: the war in Afghanistan, he tells us with a straight face, is "a war of necessity." Where did he get his education, at the School of the Americas?
Just a reminder: the occupation of these two countries by the U.S. and the conflicts that have resulted from them have now been going on for a longer time than World War II! Compare the German military of that time and the means it had to the forces that are fighting the U.S. and its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan. Does such a comparison tell us anything?
(Rhetorical question alert)
How can we know with any degree of certainty how many troops will be required if no one will clearly state what the mission is?
Jethro T.
As the song goes:
"It's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for"
"I don't give a damn,
Next stop's Afghanistan"
"We were waist-deep in the Big Muddy/
And the big fool says to push on."
---Pete Seeger
To "push on" IS the mission. Any other explanations/rationalizations are merely different shades of lip gloss on a pig.
Obama has overturned one of the precepts of ancient philosophy by stepping in that same river twice.
In all fairness, George W. Bush did it first.
Joe
"'We are confident that not only is [the war in Afghanistan] winnable, but that we have no choice', wrote Republican Sens John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and the hawkish independent Democrat Joseph Lieberman in the Wall Street Journal Monday."
Well, so much for Joe Lieberman owing President Barack Obama a smidgen of thanks or loyalty in return for Obama's personal intervention into the Democratic Party caucus's efforts last January to strip Lieberman of his seniority chairmanship rights as punishment for Joe endorsing the Bush/Cheney war on terror and actively campaigning for the McCain-Palin GOP ticket during the 2008 election. Once a snake, always a snake. And such are the rewards for magnanimous, bipartisan reaching across the aisle towards so-called Republican moderates.
Moving on to the merits, what plausible basis in history or contemporary real facts on the ground in Afghanistan is there for these three self proclaimed Wise Old Men of the Potomac to feel "confident" there's even a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel? What is the shared definition of the term "winnable", as used by Messrs See-No-Evil, Hear-No-Evil and Speak-No-Evil?
The further implication of this trio's joint declaration of faith in the Wall Street Journal is that even if the lay of the landscape along the Af/Pak frontier indeed looks dire and rapidly deteriorating (with "winning" an inherently murky concept), nevertheless "we have no choice."
But these three front men for yet more mindless war just made a choice - a very publicly proclaimed choice, for that matter. There are choices to be made, all of them unpleasant. And very mortal politicians make those choices. To pretend otherwise is simply to lie.
The Bush/Cheney White House made a choice in late 2001 when they refused the Taliban's offer to deliver Osama bin Laden and associates into the custody of a neutral Muslim state for trial, instead revving up the B-52's and casting America's lot with the warlords of the northern alliance and our man Hamid Karzai. Yet another choice was made in 2002 to stand pat in Kabul, double down the bet in Iraq, and ponder the heady prospects of regime change in Tehran while democracy spread like wildfire throughout the Muslim world.
There was confidence galore.
Winning was such a sure thing, that both missions were declared accomplished prematurely, with great fanfare in the press and patriotic fervor all around.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
So against this background, why would anybody choose to join and confidently follow these particular three blind mice - John, Lindsey and Joe - once more up the hill, over the edge, and into the abyss, given what we know now, that may not have been fully known back then?
Mr. President, are you there? Hello?
Bill from Saginaw
Well, so much for Joe Lieberman . . .
I have, by fiat, declared myself The World Jewish Supreme Court. Therefore, I, Mordechai Shiblikov, hereby declare that Holy Joe Lieberman is no longer a Jew. I cast him out to become whatever he wants, most likely the world's greatest paskudnyak. Shalom, you Mofo. And don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more.
Excellent post Bill--keep them coming--and thanks
must keep feeding the insatiable mic.
The whole point is that obama's 'action' will be just another verification of his subservience to the military industrial congressional complex and that congressional part is the few republicans and their charade of democrats the blue dogs(basically being nothing but ultra neo conservatives) pulling all the strings of control and this upcoming action just cements obama true loyalties who are NOT the people of the united states of america who elected him and those members, oops, I mean those treasonous traitors mentioned above who will 'jack up the war in afghanistan' for the benefit of the MICC.
You want change?, you better know the person you will pull the lever for in the next election.
President Obama has dug himself into a deep hole by averring that the war in Afghanistan is not a war of choice but a war of necessity. He can not therefore easily backtrack to a position different from his military advisers "on the ground". They want more soldiers and not more trainers for the Afghan army. It is a sure fire prediction that he will go along with the Congressional Republicans fortified by a passel of fearful (about their re-election next year)Democrats and ask for more troops to Afghanistan or risk their attack that he is not serious about a "war of necessity" and thereby will endanger our troops already there. Most likely he will get a majority in the House to vote for more troops to Afghanistan. The Senate? Will eventually toe the line with much huffing and puffing.
Crowsnest, yes. Obama has certainly dug himself into a shit-pit.
In Obama-world universal health care without a 'public option' is just like his anti-war without the anti.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Obama ---- a 'full spectrum' collapsed suitcase!