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Teachers File Racial Discrimination Suit Against Obama Administration's School 'Turnaround' Plan
In May, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan declared [1]
the Obama administration's intent to close and "turn around" 5,000
'underperforming" public schools in poorer neighborhoods across the
country. Duncan's last job was CEO of Chicago's public schools where he
shut down dozens of neighborhood schools, practically all in lower
income areas, and dismissed thousands of committed and experienced
teachers, the vast majority of them African American women.
When the
Chicago Teachers Union made no effort to reach out to parents, students
or their communities, refused to organize teachers to oppose the wave
of school shutdowns and privatizations, teachers organized what they
call CORE, the Coalition of Rank & File Educators. CORE [2]
has now filed suit against the Chicago Board of Education, charging
that the mass dismissal of hundreds of mostly black veteran teachers
and their replacement with uncertified and generally underqualified
white teachers is racially discriminatory.
"We looked at
the number of teachers who lost their jobs in these 'school
turnarounds,'" CORE research director Carol Caref told BAR, "and we
looked at the number of African American teachers who were employed in
those same schools or in the charter schools which replaced them and
there was a huge discrepancy which couldn't be accounted for by chance.
The fired teachers are disproportionately African American, and the
newly hired teachers are not."
"Even if it's
inadvertently discriminatory, it's still discriminatory because the
majority of the teachers wiped out in these turnarounds are African
American," offered Chicago teacher Wanda Evans. The fired veteran
teachers, CORE also maintains, are being replaced by a much younger,
much whiter and much less experienced corps of instructors graduated
from a handful of accelerated programs funded by Boeing, the Bill and
Melinda Gates, Bradley, Walton Family, Rockerfeller and other
foundations, and favored by City Hall and the Commercial Club. "The new
teachers are paid half or less what experienced teachers with advanced
degrees were making. They are forced to work longer hours. They are
reluctant to stand up for themselves or their students and tend to be
fearful of participating in union and other activities. A high
percentage of them burn out or are not asked to stick around after
their first year," according to Jackson Potter, another CORE teacher.
"The young, mostly
white replacement teachers are de-skilled temp workers, teaching
test-preparation skills. They are neither connected nor committed to
the communities their students come from," added Evans.
The prospect that
Chicago's disastrous educational policies are about to go national is
frightening, say the teachers BAR talked to. "We all hoped that Obama
would not fall for this okie-doke of high-stakes testing, No Child Left
Behind, of demonizing teachers and dismantling public education," Ms.
Evans continued. "But he (Arne Duncan) was the president's basketball
buddy. It was a slap in the face locally to even have a CEO rather than
an educator in charge of our schools here, and a slap in the face for
us all nationally to have such a terribly unqualified person as
Secretary of Education. Mr. Duncan has not taught in any classroom a
single hour, and is in fact not qualified to teach anyplace."
The Chicago-style
"school turnaround" model does indeed owe more to the culture of
corporate asset stripping and raiding than it does to any known
strategy for educational improvement. In school "turnaround"
operations, every teacher, food service worker, building engineer and
custodial staff person is fired and the slate wiped clean. Experienced
teachers who have invested their careers in urban education and are not
rehired are, in the board's terminology "honorably terminated", with no
specific reason given for their dismissal. "Show me a hospital, no
matter how bad it's doing," asked one CORE teacher, "where you walk in
and fire every doctor, every nurse, every administrator and tech
without bothering to professionally evaluate them? It just sounds
foolish. Why does anybody imagine this would help improve a school?"
Karen Lewis, a CORE
co-chair and veteran former teacher at Chicago's Orr High School saw "a
solid four restructuring processes in ten years. In ten of the eleven
years I taught at Orr there were six principals. In the last year there
were three principals." The next to last, she relates was a 27 year old
accountant who graduated from some principals training program favored
by City Hall. Like Chicago Public Schools CEO Arne Duncan, he had no
classroom teaching experience. But in corporate-raider fashion he
didn't need it. "He was their cleanup man. He came in to downsize
departments, fire people, to cut programs, and clean the books," Lewis
explained. Later that school year City Hall replaced him with still
another closeout principal who would spend the remaining money on showy
projects, frequent filed trips, T-shirts, special events and other
nonsense that had little or nothing to do with instruction in the
classroom but were heralded in the corporate media as good faith
efforts to correct the situation at the troubled high school.
During the ten years
of corporate school-busting reform, Orr was broken up into four smaller
schools, only one of which remains today. That was a military academy,
whose director took his institution off campus so as to escape the
stigma of the parent high school's corporate-engineered "failure." And
as it happens, turning public high schools and even middle schools over
to the military was another hallmark of the Duncan regime in Chicago.
Ruled for more than
40 of the last 55 years by two men named Richard Daley, Chicago has
given the nation dubious education reforms before this. The New Orleans
model, in which the entire public school workforce was fired at one
stroke immediately after Katrina, and all the city's public schools
replaced with charter schools was implemented by Arne Duncan's
predecessor at the Chicago Board of Education, Paul Vallas. Like
Duncan, whose longest period of employment before the Chicago Public Schools was as a professional basketball player [3],
Vallas was no educator either. Vallas was an accountant. And as in New
Orleans, the closing of neighborhood public schools in Chicago and
their wholesale replacement with charter and other special schools has
destabilized vast residential areas of the city and greatly contributed
to gentrification.
CORE teachers
pointed out that Chicago still has laws on the books enabling elected
councils of parents to veto the contracts of principals and certain
portions of individual school budgets. The turnaround policies allow
authorities to strip these last vestiges of democratic control over
educational outcomes from those who ought to be among the primary
stakeholders --- parents.
The widening craters
of collateral damage caused by these misguided policies extend well
beyond the affected students, families and their immediate
neighborhoods, into the broader communities that teachers live in.
These experienced black teachers were part of the bedrock of stable
African American communities. Up till now, they could buy homes, raise
their families, send their own children to college and play active
roles in their churches, sororities and a wide variety of local and
civic affairs. Dispersing and dispossessing hundreds of such teachers
in Chicago, and tens of thousands nationally of their livelihoods and
agency in mid-career will be a severe blow to African American
communities across the country. For the nation's first black president,
a former community organizer at that to embrace such a socially
destructive policy is puzzling indeed.
But just as bad
policies and bad examples come from Chicago, so do good ones. "CORE has
only been in existence a year. In 2008 we were only able to get a
single neighborhood pubic school off the "turnaround" list," Potter
told us. "This year we have stopped the turnarounds at six schools.
We've done what the Chicago Teachers Union never did, reaching out and
building partnerships between teachers and community organizations and
parents and students." In 2010 CORE may field a slate of candidates in
the union elections in an effort to reclaim the union for its members.
"If I could get a
few minutes of the president's time," Carol Caref told us, "I'd tell
him that public education and quality neighborhood public schools are
the foundations of stable, livable communities. Turning schools into
test-prep centers doesn't improve the quality of education. Neither
does repeating the corporate propaganda about our schools being
'dropout factories,' as Arne Duncan does. What works are resources,
stability, parent and community involvement and smaller class sizes.
Schools in wealthier neighborhoods have all these things. Children and
families everywhere deserve them."
Effective teaching,
as one CORE teacher put it, is a performance art. You need commitment,
connection and experience to pull it off, not hysteria, insecurity,
mass firings and more tests. Somebody, they say, needs to tell
President Obama.
Bruce A. Dixon is
managing editor at Black Agenda Report and based in Atlanta.
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Show AllAnyone here ever heard of Waldorf Education? One of my buddies from college is a huge fan of it.
No, what is it?
It's a different method of education, focuses heavily on the humanities and arts. I don't know a lot about it, but it sounds a lot better than the crap we've got now.
There is a Waldorf school in Chicago that some of my son's friends go to. We looked into it, but didn't feel like spending the money we had saved for college on elementary school as a Waldorf education is very expensive.
But imagine if that model were adopted for public education?
Waldorf is very popular in Germany. It is based on the work of Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy, from the early 20th century. While it is very different from what we have now, and in many ways much more creative, it is also a bit anachronistic and needs to be updated. It is also very christian in it's outlook, which is not appropriate for the public school system, in my opinion. It is worth learning about though. Kids stay with one teacher and the same group of kids through all their grades. They start out learning just about primary colors, and then gradually add to that base. It includes a lot of music, movement, and working with imagination.
"But imagine if that model were adopted for public education?"
They can't. The result would be a population that refuses to tolerate oppression.
We have a Waldorf school here in Eugene, and it isn't just for the rich. They avoid competitive sports, using cooperative exercise models instead. They're big on dance and art. Students create their own workbooks for lessons. Below is a clip from the Waldorf website and following is a link if you want more information.
"Teachers in Waldorf schools are dedicated to generating an inner enthusiasm for learning within every child... allowing motivation to arise from within and helping engender the capacity for joyful lifelong learning."
http://www.whywaldorfworks.org/02_W_Education/index.asp
It isn't just Waldorf that works. Every child deserves adequately funded schools, small classes, committed well trained teachers (Waldorf manages on a shoestring budget because of high parent participation and low teacher salaries due to enthusiasm for their jobs). Obama got that because his grandmother was able to get him a scholarship into a private high school. I think it created problems for him because he wasn't one of the elite and we are now paying for that. My youngest son got that because we lived in Wading River, Long Island and the Shoreham-Wading River School district was funded by the Shoreham nuclear power plant ($18,000 per student! That was the bribe to let the plant be built). Well, that was overkill. That school district was stashing a rainy day fund like crazy. But my son was never in a class with more than 18 kids, and every classroom had at least 5 computers, not including the computer lab which had 20. Amityville, the poorest black community on Long Island, was funding $3000 per student which on Long Island wasn't worth diddly.
Our educational system is a huge mess and Duncan is making it worse. I want to know why. I suspect he's of the Chicago economic School philosophy of privatizing everything. A neocon. Considering Obama is filling his administration with neocons, I'm suspecting he's a closet neocon himself. Boy, did we get taken.
But not all of us. Some have been screaming their heads off about him from the beginning. I wasn't one of them. Then.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
"Our educational system is a huge mess and Duncan is making it worse. I want to know why."
The template is very similar to that of "Disaster Capitalism." And do note what I said above about union busting, for that is central to the whole operation. Ever read what life was like before unions finally gained a modicum of power? The PTB want to return to those times. It appears that Obama shares Bush's observation that "If it were a dictatorship, it'd be a heckofalot easier."
Karlof1,
I tend to agree with you on the "Disaster Capitalism" way of looking at what the business interests are doing. Make the schools appear to fail via NCLB and then pluck them off one by one to private concerns so that lots of money can be made. The connections between the Bushes and some of the text book/test manufacturer's owners (not sure of their names but I think it's the Mcgraws) are there to be seen.
No time to discuss further as I have to get ready for some HS Legion baseball.
OYE
BeForKids,
"They avoid competitive sports," I'm not one to believe that competitive sports are necessarily bad. It is the attitude of the participants that can make them problematic.
But the rest of what you said is "spot on".
Have to go and get ready for a competitive sport--help coach my son's Legion baseball (where, unfortunately, the problems of competitive sports are rampant) team.
Take care,
OYE
odoco
Competitive sports are not inherently bad - what is BAD is when school districts staff classrooms with people who only want to coach and then get 'stuck' teaching critical classes that should be taught be highly motivated and enthusiastic experts. I've seen this literally thousands of times in my 30 years of public education.
That happened here in Eugene. They cut teachers and put a nearly illiterate track and field coach in an English classroom. He also turned out to be a child molester and they tried to just transfer him to another school, but they chose the wrong school. Parents pounced and they were stuck with having to put him in administration. This guy must have had some dirt on someone to get the royal treatment like that.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
I see this in our school where the whole social studies department are basically the coaches.
Waldork was conceived of by a german; basically that education should follow physical developement, which is measured mostly by dental maturity.
Hence teaching reading is delayed to the time of optimum receptivity.
17% of charter schools perform above public schools and 33% perform below public schools.
It is all the same nightmare for profit healthcare, wars,prisons, and schools.
Charter schools can sometimes perform above neighborhood schools because they tend to get the kids who are brighter and more studious, and they put them in smaller classes. That leaves the neighborhood schools with the kids who have more problems in larger classes. The neighborhood schools then fail and get "turned around," firing more teachers, opening up charters, pushing off the troubled kids again.
I worked in a charter school in Chicago that, for a while, followed the format of High Tech High in San Diego (and received funding from an offshoot foundation). The format called for project/problem-based learning with cross-curricular projects and regular demonstrations of learning to a neighborhood audience. Also, our principal was very open to innovation from below; the teachers brought ideas for better pedagogy to the principal. It's a different approach, but it doesn't have to be limited to the charters.
It's what rich people can afford to do with their children's education that inner city families can't afford. It's a lovely idea, but don't know it was brought up.
That's a good description of it too.
Being a public high school teacher (Spanish) for the last 15 years I can say that anytime a business model is used to "control" education it will fail (in more ways than one) the students. Business discourse deals in efficient/inefficient dichotomies which rely on quantifying the inputs/outputs in order to make a profit. See R. Callahan's "Education and the Cult of Efficiency". It details how businessmen have been trying to capture the educational "process" since the late 1800's. Although it only goes up to the early sixties (it was written in the early sixties) it is quite eye-opening. Unfortunately, it (business interference with public education) has gotten worse in the ensuing years, culminating with NCLB.
Learning and acquiring knowledge is a quality--it has to do with qualities of each individual's mind and learning capabilities. It is a logical impossibility to quantify a quality. Therefore any attempts to quantify what a student knows is a fallacy and should be rejected. I am not against helping a student assess what they know and provide input into what educational strategies they might use to help improve their learning of the subject matter-and standardized testing cannot do this. Every educator, parent, board member etc. . . should read N Wilson's "Education Standards and the Problem of Error" to get an in depth idea of the problems with what we attempt to do with NCLB.
At the beginning of the school year when we are doing all the mandatory beginning of the year cya activities (reading the student manual, having students sign that they have received a copy of how the grades are to be determined for the class, etc. . . instead of actually teaching), I do a little exercise wherein I put the grade scale of A, B, C, D, E, or F on the board and have the students take out a piece of paper and write what type of student they think they are. Due to the fact that in our district those who take a foreign (oops, sorry, "second" or "world") language have to have at least a "C" in their English (oops, sorry, "language arts") class to enroll in my class, I have a tendency to have the upper third (in grades, not necessarily any other parameter of excellence) of the school, almost all of the students answer A or B.
But you may ask, "Why is there an E in that scale--because that is the "none of these" answer. And out of the 90 or so new students each year maybe one or two will pick E. By the time the students get to high school (usually way before then--one study I've seen stated that after 3rd grade the students have already decided where they are on the grade scale) they already have subjectified themselves and believe in this grade fallacy. I do my best to try to break them out of this mode of thinking--that the object of the class is to get a grade vs learn Spanish. "If you build it they will come." If you learn Spanish the grade will come.
If you want a gourmet meal to you go to McDonald's? Probably not! McD's is the epitome of standardization. For a very good reason. By standardizing the production of the meal the customer knows that when he/she buys food (although some claim it's not really food-I like the occasional Big Mac myself) at McD's he/she will get the same thing no matter where in the world he/she is. And that's ok for what it is. But to get a gourmet meal one must go to a restaurant where the food is almost never standardized and by definition is being made creatively. And one pays a lot higher price for it also.
So why do we think that we can provide a "gourmet" education on shoe string budgets with mandates to standardization as NCLB? Once again a logical impossibility. Why would we want to use business people to run the schools (other than perhaps the accounting functions)? Why do we continue this nonsense?
One final note, I've been saying since NCLB was enacted, that once the "failure" rating of a school reached into the suburban/richest districts (and it has to due to the nature of the way standardized tests are made) the law would be rescinded. Do you think the rich folk are really going to let the state take over and tell them how to educate their kids. It's ok for the state to do that to the poor urban and rural (and there are many of them-in which one of them I teach) districts but not to our elite (class-wise) schools. No way Jose!!
OYE (is what they call me)
I appreciate your thoughtful and informed comment.
Thank you. How do you pronounce OYE? Just curious.
It felt sickening to read this article. I expected this behavior out of Bush or McCain, but not Obama. "Somebody, they say, needs to tell President Obama". He's not listening. He knows what he's doing. He's using Arne Duncan to create cannon fodder factories instead of teaching our young to be critical thinkers. Those inner city ghettos are full of eager children and brilliant minds and Obama is kicking their teeth in.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Thanks for your kind words.
Oh yea for an Anglosized (sp?) pronunciation. My nickname came about when a Peruvian came to live with me after I had lived in Peru. My friends noticed that when we had a get-together or party that to get my attention (and be able to speak Spanish-as it is very hard in the beginning to have to concentrate so completely when everyone else is speaking a different language) he would say "Oye". Which in Spanish means "hey, listen up". Being the good Pavlonian dogs that are my friends they connected Oye to me. That was in 74 and my friends still use the nickname.
Anglicized (being that you're a teacher)
Kathy
Kathy,
Thanks for the correct spelling. That is what I originally thought it was but the spell checker didn't like it. I was just too lazy to look it up! HA! No, again looking at the spelling I had written anglocized. Now I see where my mistake is. Thanks! Ah, life is for learning--not sure who said that originally.
OYE
BeForKids,
It's not only the the "inner city ghettos" where this is occurring. I teach in a rural poor district and it is very difficult to recruit and retain good quality teachers. Many of our young teachers stay a year or two and then move to the next county over (eastward toward St. Louis-St. Charles County) and earn $10-15,000 more.
And military recruitment here is quite heavy. For the students it appears to be a way to further their education because their families cannot pay for post-secondary education. After next year when I get tenured (without tenure I can be terminated at any time with no reason given)I plan to confront this cancer in our schools as much as possible.
OYE
oye el pensador
o-yea?
Excellent and thoughtful post. I was truly struck by your analysis that these kids have subjectified themselves. It dovetails with "expectations" of kids set by people that think just because you come from a bad neighborhood or poverty you can't compete. You shouldn't be challanged. The racist practice of, if you are not white, surely you can't do as well....which has been practised by many that scream racism.
Learning and acquiring knowledge is a quality--
But why should teachers spend time in the "cya" activities? Because on one hand you have the absurd politically correct bunch with their silly labels and on the other side you have the NCLB bunch with their silly testing? Or what?
Every teacher I had in school knew what every kid in their class knew or was learning or not learning. So what has changed?
I'd send my kid to your class.
Henry8
"I'd send my kid to your class." Thank you! That's about as high of a compliment that one can give to a teacher. Again, thanks, gracias!!
"But why should teachers spend time in the "cya" activities?"
As with most issues in education the answers are complex and not always obvious. We do the cya activities so that we can keep our jobs--it's mandatory. Also I believe that it is fair to and just for the students to know exactly what the parameters (not only for grades but also for behaviour, procedures, etc. . .) of the class/school are so that they can exercise their own rights in learning. I try to frame these activities so that the students realize that they can have the power to challenge the authorities that be whether they be a teacher or administrator.
"Because on one hand you have the absurd politically correct bunch with their silly labels"
"Silly labels". I'm not quite sure to which labels you refer. Yes there are many labels-some trite-but some are important in that they allow the students and parents to take advantage of their rights to (in Missouri at least) a "free and appropriate" education. Without those "labels" many students would not get the appropriate services as mandated by the state constitution, i.e., pre-special education laws.
"and on the other side you have the NCLB bunch with their silly testing? Or what?"
I don't think that there are only two sides (not that you are necessarily implying that) to these issues. "Silly testing", you are being kind with those words as standardized testing is more of a blunt instrument (think sledgehammer) with which to try to educate students. I consider it an abomination. And I'm fortunate to not have to deal with the standardized tests as foreign languages are low on the totem pole when it comes to scrutiny by the state department of education--thank god (and I'm not even a believer-I'm one of those godless communist educators who has infiltrated the public system-beware! HA HA.) A couple of years back I had to give the SAT 9 a test for 9th graders used to determine their level of "knowledge". The test givers are not supposed to read the test (my teaching ethics precludes me from not reading a test I am giving.) In every section I found errors. Not just a few but as high as a 50% rate of error in the questions. For example: Write as many math sentences as you can with the whole numbers 0-9. Now I wasn't sure what a math sentence is but I confirmed it with a math teacher and it means equation. Now one can make a couple of hundred math "sentences" for that question. How absurd. I took my complaints to the administration and they looked at it, said thanks, and did nothing, except to give the same test the next year.
Actually, I'm an All American educator who believes that we should follow our constitutional mandate of "A general diffusion of knowledge and intelligence being essential to the preservation of the rights and liberties of the people, the general assembly shall establish and maintain free public schools for the gratuitous instruction of all persons in this state within ages not in excess of twenty-one years as prescribed by law." Anything, especially standarized testing, that doesn't further that cause is a problem.
Again thanks for your kind words and response.
OYE
OYE
"Anything, especially standarized testing, that doesn't further that cause is a problem."
Amen!
You are correct, there are far more than two sides and most entrenched. But I also realize my opinions may be inadequate or down right wrong because of a lack of practical experience in the area, though I sdo hold a teaching certificate earned in the dark ages....which means my opinions are worth no more than before I said that.
I hope you will weigh in on these things. Be willing to comment and give your opinion on various things. And especially since you teach Spanish considering whats coming later this year. English immersion or bi-lingual? Which is best for the students.......thats one question that I can't get a good answer for.
Education ranks just below the economy in importance right now....in a good economy its #1. You can't get the one without the other.
So let me say to you....gracias indeed!!
"English immersion or bi-lingual? Which is best for the students..."
Knowing two languages is better that knowing one. Knowing three is even better.
The problem is that only students whose native language is not English are offered bilingual education, which is usually terrible, instead of offering quality bilingual education to the whole student population.
Foreign language instruction is another area in which the US lags way behind the rest of the rich countries and many of the not so rich.
Thanks again for your response and kind words!!
It's late, we stayed to watch the varsity team play also. Then we got home and my son showed me a video that he says only aired once on MTV on "True life" which deals with PSTD. All the other True Lifes air over and over and over. But not this one, only once. Propaganda through media control. Sorry off topic but I felt it was necessary to sit with my sixteen year old through it--and it was a good experience. If you-all have not seen it please find it on you tube and watch. Not that most here on CD don't understand the horrors that are war.
Anyway, it is interesting being what I call bilingual, i.e. being able to listen and talk without translation in the brain. It's almost like being another person as our own sense of ourselves depends greatly on our own inner conversations with ourselves in our native tongue. This is a major problem for beginning students and one has to overcome this "foreignness in our thoughts".
I believe that we need to teach the student in the language in which they can comprehend the subject matter while at the same time having the student take English language learning classes. They are already "immersed" in English everyday by living here. Most people don't realize that German used to be the language of choice for schooling in the late 1800's-at least here in the Missouri river valley from St. Louis to KC. It was only dropped during WW1. Those students seemed to learn the subject matter and English (my grandparents generation-I remember them speaking German).
And immersion is one of those buzzwords that sets off alarms in my brain as it is used indiscriminately throughout education. Many of the current textbooks are based on "immersion", meaning only speaking in the target language is the only way to go. Hooey!! The fact is that one year in a high school foreign language class is the equivalent of being in a foreign country for ten days--160 hours (after all the other bs) divided by 16 hours a day being awake). How much will one know after ten days in a foreign country? In Spanish it would be: Cuanto cuesta una cerveza? and Donde esta el bano? How much is a beer and where is the bathroom? (sorry don't know how to do the upside down question marks, accent marks and tilde in this program). So in other words one must make an effort to study the language and then after a couple of years go to a country and be "immersed".
I'm working on writing a book on education (since I'm in my second half century of life I feel like I finally have enough experience to speak out a little). It's slowly coming together so all input that I get from anyone helps.
Again, thanks to all who respond,
OYE
oye
Thanks very much! That makes perfect sense. I remember from studies that some immigrants even had newspapers in their native language.
"Not that most here on CD don't understand the horrors that are war."
Here we disagree. I think that most here at CD have no conception of what war is really like or how horrible it really is. Many of their postings about it prove it. Their hearts are in the right place, but its like trying to explain the color Red to a blind man in most cases.
PSTD is very real. Visiting with veterans of this war I believe it may be worse for these kids than for the Viet Nam vets. It is striking that your sixteen year old sees the importance....a great compliment to you and your wife.
Once again...thanks for the thought. And I wish tenure was coming faster for you.
Henry8,
"Here we disagree. I think that most here at CD have no conception. . ." I don't think that one has to have personally experienced the horrors of war to "know" them. I wouldn't have to feel the bite of a shark to realize how horrendous that could be. I was lucky to have not had to confront what I would have done when my number (183) would have been called as the draft for the Viet Nam war was terminated the year before. I believe I would have gone to Canada. I got lucky. Many--millions (in the US, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos) did not. And we continue the folly of war now.
Sometimes I think that yes, indeed, public education has failed when so many are so willing to join in and support the madness that is war.
On another note, I think you would enjoy, if you haven't read it, what is one of my favorite books, Andre Comte-Sponville's "A Small Treatise on the Great Virtues". It took my doctoral advisor a year and a half to convince me to read it--I'd had enough of hearing about virtues from the nuns growing up. What I never realized was that a virtue is just an attitude/action/state of mind/being that is a human good. I've read it many times over now and always get something good out of the re-reading.
Take care,
OYE
." I don't think that one has to have personally experienced the horrors of war to "know" them. I wouldn't have to feel the bite of a shark to realize how horrendous that could be. I was lucky to have not had to confront what I would have done when my number (183) would have been called as the draft for the Viet Nam war was terminated the year before. I believe I would have gone to Canada."
We will still have to disagree. The sounds and smells are something you cannot see. The pictures in your mind are something a bit more vivid than a photograph and combined with the sounds and smells are..........I simply can't tell you.
I am so pleased you didn't get called you'll never know. And if you had gone to Canada, believe me none of the combat vets from Viet Nam would have said anything except "good for you"
Pax
The sounds and smells are something you cannot see. The pictures in your mind are something a bit more vivid than a photograph and combined with the sounds and smells are..........I simply can't tell you.
I had not thought of it in that way. You are correct. It is a kind of "knowing" that is different than a vicarious, not having experienced it type of "knowing". It sounds like you know first-hand. Thanks for your enlightening response and your service.
OYE
Bless you my friend.
And please weigh in on the educational (of course anything else) topics that copme up. You put things in a way I find easy to understand and many here can tell you I can be a stoopnagle!
I look forward to your comments.
"Write as many math sentences as you can with the whole numbers 0-9"
Indeed it is absurd since the number you can make is not hundreds but infinite. The simplest example is 1 X 1 X 1 X 1 = 1. This can be extended for an infinite number of the numeral 1.
Hadn't thought of that one. You are correct. The problem with that problem is that the student could spend the whole time on that one question and end up with a "poor" score on the math portion of the test.
Go to chemistrycoach.org where there is a link to a way of instruction that puts the students in charge of what they learn and they develop the reasons for learning.
This article provides evidence supporting the accusation that Obama cares not one whit for commonfolk--white, black or other. One of the few remaining powerful union orgainizations are teachers' unions, and it's clear that OmamaInc is just as intent on busting unions as Reagan/Bush/Clinton were. But that really shouldn't surprise those of us who did in-depth due diligence about Obama prior to the election. All one need do to find more evidence is to see how the engineered GM bankruptcy is all about destroying the UAW.
Obama is Public Enemy #1, and proves it more every single day.
karlof1
"All one need do to find more evidence is to see how the engineered GM bankruptcy is all about destroying the UAW."
Pardon? I'm looking at the bankruptcy and I don't see that at all. Obama saved the UAW at GM and Chrysler. They are about the only ones coming out of this winners.
Their jobs are saved, they lose not one cent in pay, not one cent in health benefits and not one cent in retirement benefits. The only union members losing are the already retired that are taking a hit.
I just don't see how that can be construed as destroying the UAW. In fact everything I see and every action so far would lead you to believe Obama is in bed with the Unions.
What am I missing?
Henry8, are you serious? The UAW is about to lose 20,000 of their 60,000 remaining GM jobs, their pay is being cut to the level of Toyota workers in the deep south and their entire retirement fund THEY paid into was stolen to give to the banks. What they got in return for the fund was essentially worthless GM stock no one else wants. You call that saving a union? I don't and they don't. I would say Obama just blew off the union vote, and he may well feel the sting come 2010 as Clinton did in 1994 after selling them out on NAFTA. Of course why should he care? There are hardly any union members left in existence. But they are still voters. And the memory of this betrayal will be long.
Anyone else want to add to this list of horrors?
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
But they are retaining 40,000 far mere than they would have in a real bankruptcy proceeding.
The agreement I saw says they are not having their pay cut, maybe I just got an older version of the agreement. New hires come in at less in what I saw.
Hi Henry8: Please read this, http://www.counterpunch.org/sustar06052009.html
Thanks karlof1. Interesting. As I told B4kids above, maybe the agreement I saw was an earlier time. Under it, existing employees did not take a cut in any of those three areas.
This would cast it in an entirely different light. Thanks.
As I've written previously, one must look at the past 30 years of US history to see Obama's actions as mere continuity of the Reaganite Dream. Indeed, going back even further historically helps even more to see and understand what is unfolding. One of the few areas of public life not conquered by the Money Power are its public schools and their (usually) democratic system of control. I recall the vicious fight over Social Science Standards--particularly US History--that were opposed by what was at the time a new group of arch conservatives, who become known as the neocons, although some were certainly neoliberals, and thus my moniker for them both: Neoliberalcons. This fight was somewhat coupled to the contrived "debate" over evolution, and I noted the same neoliberalcons involved in both. Recall that Reagan started the first attack against public schools well before he became president, just as he did against unions. The whole story is long and sordid and has yet to end. Given Obama is just as Orwellian as his predessors, beware of his initiative to revitalize the middle class.
I would like to say things will improve, but if I did I would be lying like Obama.
As I remeber it the neocons were mostly McGovernites (I think, so your Neoliberalcons would certainly fit.
I have certainly come to the conclusion.....rapidly....that this Imperial Presidency cares squat for the middle class.
I believe this arrogant bunch will come a cropper before the Summer is out.
And I had such high hopes for you. Don't watch Fox Business :-)
Now zmann.....you know I don't watch Fox!
zmann, if you keep saying Fox we will have to wash your mouth out with soap!
Congratulations to Bruce Dixon for an excellent piece.
I can't find a reference to it but I read somewhere that Obama was the only major Chicago politician that REFUSED to send his kids to the school system his bball buddy ran. How come this guy wasn't good enough for Obama's kids but he's good enough for ours? I didn't support Obama, in fact I warned everyone I knew and online too for over 2 years. I'm glad I didn't vote for him but I'm sorry for all of us.
'Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.' - Pete Townshend