Bush Spy Revelations Anticipated When Obama Is Sworn In
When Barack Obama takes the oath of office on January 20, Americans won't just get a new president; they might finally learn the full extent of George W. Bush's warrantless domestic wiretapping.
Since The New York Times first revealed in 2005 that
the NSA was eavesdropping on citizens' overseas phone calls and e-mail,
few additional details about the massive "Terrorist Surveillance
Program" have emerged. That's because the Bush administration has
stonewalled, misled and denied documents to Congress, and subpoenaed
the phone records of the investigative reporters.
Now privacy advocates are hopeful that President Obama will be more forthcoming with information. But for the quickest and most honest account of Bush's illegal policies, they say don't look to the incoming president. Watch instead for the hidden army of would-be whistle-blowers who've been waiting for Inauguration Day to open the spigot on the truth.
"I'd bet there are a lot of career employees in the intelligence agencies who'll be glad to see Obama take the oath so they can finally speak out against all this illegal spying and get back to their real mission," says Caroline Fredrickson, the ACLU's Washington D.C. legislative director.
New Yorker investigative reporter Seymour Hersh already has a slew of sources waiting to spill the Bush administration's darkest secrets, he said in an interview last month. "You cannot believe how many people have told me to call them on January 20. [They say,] 'You wanna know about abuses and violations? Call me then.'"
So far, virtually everything we know about the NSA's warrantless surveillance has come from whistle-blowers. Telecom executives told USA Today that they had turned over billions of phone records to the government. Former AT&T employee Mark Klein provided wiring diagrams detailing an internet-spying room in a San Francisco switching facility. And one Justice Department attorney had his house raided and his children's computers seized as part of the FBI's probe into who leaked the warrantless spying to The New York Times. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales even suggested the reporters could be prosecuted under antiquated treason statutes.
If new whistle-blowers do emerge, Fredrickson hopes the additional information will spur Congress to form a new Church Committee -- the 1970s bipartisan committee that investigated and condemned the government's secret spying on peace activists, Martin Luther King, Jr., and other political figures.
But even if the anticipated flood of leaks doesn't materialize, advocates hope that Obama and the Democratic Congress will get around to airing out the White House closet anyway. "Obama has pledged a lot more openness," says Kurt Opsahl of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which was the first to file a federal lawsuit over the illegal eavesdropping.
One encouraging sign for civil liberties groups is that John Podesta, president of the Center for American Progress, is a key figure in Obama's transition team, which will staff and set priorities for the new administration. The center was a tough and influential critic of the Bush administration's warrantless spying.
Among the unanswered questions:
Were there quid pro quo promises made to the phone companies and internet carriers who cooperated with the secret spying? For example, were co-conspirators promised lucrative government contracts?
Did the program appropriate the CALEA wiretapping infrastructure? Under CALEA, Congress forced telecoms to build surveillance capabilities into the phone and internet network, but promised it would only be used with court orders.
What did the first version of the surveillance program sweep into its net? In March 2004, a squadron of top officials at the Justice Department, including then-Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI head Robert Mueller, threatened to resign over the illegality of the program. The program was subsequently scaled back, but nobody knows what the NSA was doing that was bad enough to horrify Ashcroft.
What was the legal rationale for the surveillance?FISA explicitly made warrantless domestic eavesdropping illegal, but the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel issued a series of memos justifying the spying anyway. The ACLU is fighting the Bush administration for access to the documents, as well as secret memos justifying torture.
"It's difficult to see how Sen. Obama could call his administration transparent if his administration continues to suppress non-sensitive information that should have been released a long time ago," says the ACLU's Jameel Jaffer.
The other looming question is whether, as president, Obama will continue the warrantless spying himself. Obama voted with the majority in Congress to legalize the Bush spying program in July, but the constitutionality of the measure is yet untested. An Obama administration is less likely than Bush to devise convoluted legal end-runs around the Constitution, according to Marc Rotenberg, the head of the Electronic Privacy Information Center.
"Keep in mind that Obama is a constitutional scholar and has a deep understanding of checks and balance," says Rotenberg. "It's hard to imagine that an Obama administration would support ... warrantless wiretapping."
With the financial markets and the economy in deep trouble, it's unlikely that Obama will quickly turn to the issue of warrantless wiretapping. But the EFF's lawsuit against AT&T over the surveillance could force the new administration to pick a side quickly. In December, a federal judge in San Francisco will hold a hearing on whether the retroactive immunity granted to AT&T and other telecoms as part of the FISA Amendments Act is Constitutional. Obama voted for the act in order to legalize the spying program, but tried unsuccessfully to strip out the immunity provision.
EFF's Opsahl hopes that if EFF prevails in December, an Obama administration might let the decision stand, clearing the way for EFF's lawsuit to proceed.
"If we are victorious in our constitutional challenge, I would hope the Obama administration would accept that loss and move on without an appeal," says Opsahl. "But we will have to see."
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51 Comments so far
Show AllMr. President Elect, please save the Constitution, encourage people to step forward and reveal the evil doers deeds of trying to destroy this country.
Let the Whistle blowing and the guillotine crew of Constitutional Righteousness begin to unveil the evil that has swept this nation to create a stazi society.
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!!!!
I have heard enough right wing , self righteous crap to last a life time.
The FBI and DHS have gone way overboard in their day to day operation.
What do you want from a Patriot Act regime, the more they do in violating constitutional rights the more powerful they become.
The more they claim that they can't tell us what they have done to protect us because it would cause panic, the more powerful they become.
Its a self perpetuating wheel of lies and constitutional violations that fuel and grow their power.
Community Cointel pro gang stalking is being taught to community watch groups as form of surveillance by law enforcement agencies. Community's leaders that have agreed to this warrant less activity are now finding out that they will have the screws put to them if they complain about the tactics and results, or try to stop the illegal surveillance.
What can you say about our country when the only choice people have for work are joining the military or a community watch spy group.You need suspects to have a large group of spies, so you just create them.
My phones are tapped, my email is monitored and I am followed 24/7 by community watch or religious vigilante groups, for two years now.I don't know why, other than I participated in war protests two years ago, which was deemed
unpatriotic in this area at the time, and have had an Obama ( bitter sweet ) support sign in my car for the last 13 months.
They make no effort to hide what they do, I am being tortured by what I call right wing religious whack jobs.
The problem is, they come from all walks of life, Firefighters, Law men, community leaders ,business men. And the slander campaign they launched against me isn't working, and lord knows this bunch is not going to be wrong or loose their social credibility.
So , whistle blowing is my hope to redress of grievances. I will need witnesses from within these evil organizations to step forward an tell the truth.
I hope we put a TIPS program together to encourage whistle blowing at all levels.
I have been tortured for two years and still going on today.
BornFreeMen
BRING IT ON.
Joe
If the report about potential whistle blowers is only partially true, old Seymour will be one busy reporter for the next few months. :)
WELL NOW, ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT BUSH, CHENEY ETAL WILL EVERY BE PROSECUTED FOR THIS VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION?
redstatelefty -
I'm not so sure the Church Committee is the model to follow (I'd like to see Congress set up one Committee to go after war profiteering in Iraq, another to go after the Wall Street meltdown/bailout, and a third to focus on abuses of the national security establishment), but you're squarely on the right track with your dream of using an offer of immunity or pardon to figures like George Tenet - using subpoena power to pry loose the classified paper trail smoking arsenal that memorializes the Bush junta's assault upon the Bill of Rights.
Regarding the statutory FISA immunity provision specifically, and the warrantless domestic electronic surveillance by NSA and the telecoms in general, don't forget that part of what you get with a new President is also a new Attorney General and Solicitor General.
As Singel's article mentions, in December a federal judge in San Francisco will hold a hearing on whether the retroactive immunity provision of the revised FISA statute is unconstitutional.
What do you suppose is likely to be the ruling if the Obama administration's legal team comes in and sides with the plaintiffs, agreeing that given what DOJ has learned about the earlier clandestine Bush NSA spy programs carried out on American soil against the citizenry, the whole scheme was so patently illegal that Congress's immunity grant is void? What happens to the Military Commission Act's grant of retroactive immunity to torturers and their higher up political superiors if comparable analysis were used by a new, non-politicized Attorney General and/or Solicitor General?
Every major civil liberties insult of the Bush/Cheney regime was enabled by some disengenuous legal memo authored by some Federalist Society hack that had been inserted by the neo-cons into ordinary bureaucratic structure of the federal government's legal system.
No, let us not - first thing - actually kill all those fake legal experts who facilitated creation of our present domestic police state under the guise of the National Security Act, while chanting bogus claims of wartime necessity.
Instead, it should be possible to change that vile system fairly quickly and dramatically from top down, simply by exposing the complicity of the Bushies' lawyers in enabling the high crimes and misdemeanors that have been committed, and then renouncing the facile legalism of their work product for the fraud that it always has been.
All you gotta do is go back to basics. Uphold the rule of law.
Bill from Saginaw
my fav blower of whistles is Sibel Edmonds, former FBI translator... google away: Turkish diplomats and their suitcases filled with Afghan heroin money swapped for state secrets with Bush officials and lots more!
I wish someone could spin the earth so Jan 20 would get here sooner.
"Former AT&T employee Mark Klein provided wiring diagrams detailing an internet-spying room in a San Francisco switching facility. " The telecommunications companies are almost all nefarious. The phone company has always planted bugs in left wing or critical organizations. Even Google, once an idealistic model of public service, has shifted and is now a participant in spying on citizens, keeping and providing records of their online activities.
Salvador Allende was a legally elected official in the most model, stable democratically run country in South America. ATT and the mining companies were instrumental in his overthrow and the installation of fascist dictator Pinochet. Much to their surprise, thousands who had supported the Allende election, not unlike the thousands of Obama volunteers, were arrested, herded into stadiums and prisons, tortured and killed. This included plenty of college students, priests etc.
The communications companies do this because they have a fascist mentality and because they can. These types are still skulking around, and still dangerous. Even if they do not overthrow a government, they can use their information to control politicians.
Honest, ethical people like Mark Klein exist in the military, the government, in big companies. I hope we will be hearing from them. Secrecy in government and corporations is still a huge threat to electoral democracies.
Joe
"...they MIGHT finally learn the full extent of George W. Bush's warrantless domestic wiretapping."
And what would be the probability of that conditional? I'd wager considerably closer to 0 than 1.
Mr. President Elect, please save the Constitution, encourage people to step forward and reveal the evil doers deeds of trying to destroy this country.
Let the Whistle blowing and the guillotine crew of Constitutional Righteousness begin to unveil the evil that has swept this nation to create a stazi society.
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!!!!!
I have heard enough right wing , self righteous crap to last a life time.
The FBI and DHS have gone way overboard in their day to day operation.
What do you want from a Patriot Act regime, the more they do in violating constitutional rights the more powerful they become.
The more they claim that they can't tell us what they have done to protect us because it would cause panic, the more powerful they become.
Its a self perpetuating wheel of lies and constitutional violations that fuel and grow their power.
Community Cointel pro gang stalking is being taught to community watch groups as form of surveillance by law enforcement agencies. Community's leaders that have agreed to this warrant less activity are now finding out that they will have the screws put to them if they complain about the tactics and results, or try to stop the illegal surveillance.
What can you say about our country when the only choice people have for work are joining the military or a community watch spy group.You need suspects to have a large group of spies, so you just create them.
My phones are tapped, my email is monitored and I am followed 24/7 by community watch or religious vigilante groups, for two years now.I don't know why, other than I participated in war protests two years ago, which was deemed
unpatriotic in this area at the time, and have had an Obama ( bitter sweet ) support sign in my car for the last 13 months.
They make no effort to hide what they do, I am being tortured by what I call right wing religious whack jobs.
The problem is, they come from all walks of life, Firefighters, Law men, community leaders ,business men. And the slander campaign they launched against me isn't working, and lord knows this bunch is not going to be wrong or loose their social credibility.
So , whistle blowing is my hope to redress of grievances. I will need witnesses from within these evil organizations to step forward an tell the truth.
I hope we put a TIPS program together to encourage whistle blowing at all levels.
I have been tortured for two years and still going on today.
BornFreeMen
Bornfreemen,
You are very brave.
I have learned a lot about Brittany Spears over the past two years but was until now totally unaware that this sort of harassment of my fellow anti-war citizens was being tolerated.
We need to protest louder and louder until the congress represents WE THE PEOPLE again instead of their corporate sponsors who bribe them via lobbyists.
I believe lobbying congressional members should be akin to bribing democratic officials against the will of the people they are representing. It should be a serious crime, not a problem to solve.
We need radical change inside the beltway. January 20th can't come soon enough.
Obama and the Dems have been leading the charge on the theft of taxpayer money to bail out the banks and now Detroit. Turns out the sick banks haven't gotten a penny (so what was the urgency?), and the healthy wants are hoarding the treasure instead of loaning it out like they were supposed to do.
So why would Obama stop the spying on us? If the bankers don't want him to, he won't.
the article says: "Obama voted for the act in order to legalize the spying program"
Why? This is a very dark stain on Obama's record and I will not forget this act by him. I am very skeptical of him.
To you who are assigned to spy on your democracy in action -- in other words look for terrorists on CommonDreams.org -- hang in there! Only 2 months to go.
Then please spill the beans to the Obama Administration, your new Commander in Chief. Thank you for being an American.
Whistle-blowing might become a whole new occupation in America. There might be Ph.Ds in whistle-blowing. Cheeks might become more rounded, eyes more poppy, such is the scale of what is to come at the end of January.
People won't beat around the Bush, they'll tell all. But the unfortunate fact is that it's all too late then. The tales needed to be told earlier so that Bush and the Forty Thieves could have been put in jail long ago!
There'll be lots of whistle-blowing too when the truth comes out about the bailouts, when it's revealed how many rich people are now richer because of taxpayer's handouts, how many banks have bought other banks with bailout money, how many executives have had their bloated bonuses increased or gone on trips to luxury resorts.
Taxpayers are being screwed big-time. Check out my latest post. You'll wish you hadn't:
www.dangerouscreation.com
Have you heard that George Bush purchased "tens of thousands" of acres of property in Paraguay? Jim Willie from the "Hat Trick Letter" wrote about it on August 28, 2008. You can probably google the article: Broken Systems and Dysfunctional Mechanisms. It's a real eye opener!
Check out this article if you are interested the Bush purchase of a large, water rich tract of ecologically important Paraguayan land near a U.S. military base.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cp10202006.html
David Brookbank -- "Hasta donde debemos practicar las verdades?"
Check out this article if you are interested the Bush purchase of a large, water rich tract of ecologically important Paraguayan land near a U.S. military base.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cp10202006.html
David Brookbank -- "Hasta donde debemos practicar las verdades?"
The sites in your cite are in different parts of Paraguay. The airbase has 2 85'sq enclosed hangars, but no planes are visible and the place appears to be deserted. (scary)
No one will really care. The media won't really cover it and the Democrats will move on. The Republicans will attack the Democrats first and make them get on the defensive which will make them look weak. Then the Republicans will rightly accuse the Democrats of being weak and the new President Sarah Palin will pick up where Bu$h the inferior left off with the same cast of characters back again except the very old ones.
You're fucking stoned. Sober up and come back with something real.
Senator Joe Lieberman will save us...He has no loyalty to anyone except Israel,
have faith..
Having been a victim of an assault while protesting the US invasion/occupation/brutalization of Iraq and subsequently the victim of a bogus police investigation of the incident and finally lies by the local FBI to my U.S. Senator about it, I am somewhat blaise about the whole spying thing. The U.S. government -- and the secret government within it -- is going to do what it wants. I am more interested in the U.S. stopping its torture in Cuba (Guantanamo) and elsewhere, as well as the yet to be disclosed disappearances that have no doubt accompanied it.
That said, let me ask folks this: If you were to become the President of the U.S. after 8 years of a lawless, fascist regime, would you not reserving the right to spy on the operatives of that administration in their planning to destabilize you (if not eliminate you), manipulate domestic affairs and involve themselves in private covert operations around the world?
David Brookbank -- "Hasta donde debemos practicar las verdades?"
Well, bro (or sis, or what the fuck ever) I have to say yes. I do think it's fair. They did it to us. They're lying, mass-murdering bastards. I think we should do what we can. I'm erring on the side of non-violence. But they suckered us, (if not us, then every other American who allowed this absolutely fucking dumb situation to happen, and murdered countless thousands of people.)
So spying on them is a fantastic idea. Let's put them out of fucking business.
That's my word,
Pete
Thank you David, I think Mr. Obama needs to create a whole office to deal with this stuff. There's no question that America has been betrayed, but it's such profligate nature will require some organization and prioritization so that he can concentrate on the immediate problems raised up in his path -- like the economy, education (drown NCLB like a rabid cat), health care, energy and Iraq. I'd like to see him just adopt the demo health plan and be done with it. Any ideas on who could run this investigation -- Colin Powell? Who?
Me parece una garapata en el oido que hice el W.
"Any ideas on who could run this investigation -- Colin Powell? Who?"
Ralph Nader. Not beholden to either party, has a reputation for exposing dirty laundry... a smart guy who has shown he is unafraid to tell it like it is.
[updated to add the following]
And Nader should hire Greg Palast as his chief investigator.
Holy shit. I agree with you %100. Somebody get to Obama. QUICK!!! Make this happen. Just don't talk about it. I don't have access, or I'd do it myself.
Nader, Colin Powell, Greg Palast,. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I CAN DO. I'll do what I can.
Pete
Especially Greg Palast. Anything he investigates will be aired out properly...and the report will be hilarious.
Wow, Nader might be a good one indeed. With the big victory, he can't be seen as having been too disruptive.
Thanks for the response, Bob. (And by the way, I meant to write "reserve" rather than "reserving" in my original post). I am not sure who would run such an investigation and office. I am pretty cynical. I vote for left, third party candidates. I will watch Obama with great interest and wish him great success. But my distrust of the system and the powers behind the power in this country is too great to be too disappointed if he fails. That does not mean I will not be angry, more angry than I am now. One of my greatest concerns, Bob, is that the U.S. ruling class system has tasked the Obama government with dealing with rising regional solidarity, anti-imperialism, and wide-spread class consciousness in Latin America and has put in place and in motion already mechanisms and orders to attempt to deform and debilitate those trends. This is going to be done through destabilizations, covert actions, propaganda, U.S. funded and orchestrated "rose" revolutions, economic warfare, etc. Let me close for now with "U.S. hands off Latin America".
David Brookbank -- "Hasta donde debemos practicar las verdades?"
The meaning of W's election was not lost on Latin America. As far as I'm concerned, the Bushies have been at the heart of the exploitation of our neighbors since the early 1800's (when further importation of slaves was prohibited) and they, and many others claiming to be Americans, moved their ill-gotten resources there and called in the marines when they met opposition. Read Smedley Butler. The wiki will tell you all you need to know. The U.S. would be a better place if some of those nations declared themselves states and send Senators and Congressmen to Washington. I just hope Cuba can get it's house in order before relations are normalized and the capitalists move on Havana.
Any investigation would end up requiring war crime prosecution and that is not going to happen as far as I can see.
I'm afraid Podesta and Emmanuel and the rest of the Dems have been loading up on chicken coop output - and I ain't talkin' 'cackleberries'.
But I could be wrong !
I think it's right to focus on going forward, and that something like the Warren Commission needs to be set up to deal with all this crap. I mean there's a mountain of it, and I'm not sure whether this economic crash is to trip him up or should be the first priority. I thin Obama will do the prosecutions if the cases call for it. I don't see how he can avoid it.
Bob Pomeroy November 11th, 2008 5:16 pm
"I thin Obama will do the prosecutions if the cases call for it. I don't see how he can avoid it."
Not saying he will but he could certainly avoid it by just ignoring it, just as Nancy Pelosi did with all the evidence for impeachment. Her punishment, re-election by 70% of the people in her district.
Lobo Gris
We're going to lose another million trees to make the paper for all the books that are going to be written about just this topic.
Thanks again "W".
It's all in Black & White
Reading between the Lines.
Will things change?
A kaleidoscope of names and faces.
Will the Bleeding STOP?
Will The Cor-pirates go Peacefully.
Their evil friends and eviler foes.
In any case.
In a hundred days
You should know.
with Emmanuelle as chief of staff, my hopes are not high
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
I'm not holding my breath. Obama's security folks are centrists and do not seem interested in changing anything or rocking any boats or policies currently in effect. I'm afraid that Obama and his advisers will go overboard to 'prove' their manliness and go to extremes to 'show their ability to defend' the US.
Current plans are still moving forward to attack Iran, Pakistan and increase troops in Afghanistan. He has talked about a national security force. He is planning to give ALL of Jerusalem to the Israelis. In other words, NO CHANGE.
But I could be wrong !
I am glad he was elected. But, that said, he is obligated to his corporate backers and their 'advisers in place'. At least there may be hope, tho', that he will at least entertain new motions.
You know, my wife has this thing she calls her "secret weapon". She expects the worst and then is delighted when things don't go so badly. It drives me nuts. I think Obama is at least in part an expression of our best hopes and dreams, and that what is needed now more than anything else is to communicate with our better angels. We are better than we have shown ourselves to be, and I invite you to entertain that possibility in your prognostications. If we expect bad things, I think we tend to accept the mediocre. If we are to refuse to accept that, we have to expect more. I don't think Obama can escape the tug of our highest expectations of what we will accept from him. People blossom when the best is expected of them and are not discounted or relegated. Beyond that, fart heart never won fat lady.
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Speaking of the Devil...
Now watching the Thief-in-Chief on CNN:
He is spinning wildly trying to equate his administration to the true hero’s of WWII.
This sick bastard can only lay claim to looting America of its blood and treasure through an illegal immoral war.
Crimes against Humanity are his legacy.
BTW anyone notice his jaw was jerking uncontrollably again.
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He's a broken man. He says he's going back to TX with his head held high, but he knows there's going to be hell to pay. I think though, that Cheney done it and W is just holding the bag -- of course he is responsible, he's just dumb and was out of his league from the get go, but last I checked pity wasn't a viable defense.
In my dream... it is January 21, and President Barack Hussein Obama makes a phone call.
"George, this is the president speaking. Can I call you George? George, I'm appointing a presidential commission to look into certain crimes alleged to have been committed over the part eight years. Now I know you were just the bag man, you didn't really understand everything that was going on, so I'm going to make you an offer. I'm prepared to give you a presidential pardon in exchange for unfettered access to all your administration's records. Anything you have any national security concerns over, you can hand over to the CIA. Everything else, you make available to the commission. You will be named only as an unindicted co-conspirator. The alternative is that we subpoena everything anyway, and let the chips fall where they may. It's up to you.
"Oh, one more thing, just to be clear. The pardon, of course, is to be granted at the END of the investigation. If we catch you withholding anything - anything - the pardon is off the table. It's your choice, George. Do you want to do this the easy way or the hard way?"
I'd buy that. It would be great to get both, but Cheney's the 'brains' of that operation, obviously. And the SOB I'd love to see in jail. I'd vote for your deal.
How about Dumsfeld and Wolfowitz...? Any chance?
(Lots of others, but we can't be too greedy.)
Justice shouldn't be confused with greed.
Can I join your dream? It looks to me though like W is headed for Paraguay with a ton of unreported income. That's been a great place for nazis to hide out. Please see my note above re the Bush family and Central America after 1820.
And by the by, there were never enough votes for impeachment and the Dems would look just as stupid at the end as ther R's did with Willie. Within a week or so, they'd be equalizing both, and having one's pole illicitly smoked would carry as high a price as the theft of a nation. I was afraid double jeopardy would prevent other action, and it would be a lousy tradition to start. 1/21 is the day to start on W.
Maybe we'll finally know if 9/11 was a conspiracy.
Yeah, go read the neo-cons' plan for the new century, presented before W was elected (if your stomach can stand it) and see how weel they did. War in Iraq, bankrupt the government, it's a long list of accomplishments. If Jesus doesn't come quick, we're in a deep pile of it, and boy will he be pissed.
Nah, no conspiracy, everything Bush and his cronies tell us is the truth!
Absolutely. Britney Spears said it: "He's our president; what he says is true."
If the Republicans need a woman for 2012, B. Spears is it. She's perfect.