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Bailing Out a Boat Full of Holes
BOSTON - The U.S. Treasury's bonanza from Congress to hand out 700 billion dollars to Wall Street is not what the country needs to right its shaky economy, many independent experts say.
An ACORN (The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) member holds a sign, Tuesday, Sept. 23, 2008, as the political action group stages a protest in front of the Federal Reserve Bank Building in Doral, Fla. Many economists continue to sound warnings that the bailout was misguided and that the U.S. government needs to take more action. (AP Photo/J. Pat Carter) "Despite the bailout, it's clear the economy is
going into a deep recession," Robert E. Scott, senior international
economist at the Economic Policy Institute, told IPS.
U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned Tuesday that the U.S. economy is headed downward, hours after The Fed unveiled a programme to buy short-term debt in an effort to stimulate lending among businesses.
The Fed's action followed a drop in the Dow Jones industrial average on Monday to below 10,000 for the first time since 2004, and reports of plunging markets around the world, with markets in Brazil and Russia especially hard hit. Developing nations are bracing for harder times to come.
Banks around the world invested in the same troubled U.S. mortgage products that are deemed largely responsible for the downturn in the U.S. economy.
In Europe, European Union finance ministers on Tuesday urged European nations to coordinate their economic stimulus efforts but did not propose an EU bailout. Ireland and Germany went it alone, and drew up their own stimulus plans.
"This bailout of the financial sector is not doing enough to help the real economy," Scott said.
On Oct. 3, the U.S. Congress approved 700 billion dollars for U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to spend as he sees fit, mostly on Wall Street firms reeling from their bad mortgage deals.
After initial failure in the U.S. House, Paulson, who crafted the controversial bailout plan, eventually convinced the U.S. Congress to approve it. U.S. citizens from coast to coast expressed opposition to the plan, and swamped lawmakers with phone calls.
In the end, Congress, nervous about the economy and cowed by swarms of lobbyists from the nation's banks businesses and financial institutions, ignored their constituents and passed the plan. The final House vote was 263 to 171.
About 150 billion dollars in extra spending was added to the bill to woo more lawmakers to vote for it, mostly in the form of tax breaks and programmes for lawmakers' home districts.
According to reports from lawmakers, many citizens had expressed concern about the size of the bailout, the fact that it is directed at Wall Street firms, and that Paulson, a former CEO of Goldman Sachs, a company with a financial stake in the bailout, would oversee the programme.
On Monday, Paulson announced that he had picked Neel Kashkari to run the bailout programme. Kashkari is a 35-year-old assistant treasury secretary and former Goldman Sachs colleague, with about six years of total work experience since graduating from the Wharton School of Economics.
Lead lawmakers said last week that taxpayers needn't worry about mishandling of the funds, which will be doled out in 350-billion-dollar chunks, with some oversight by Congress and agencies.
"The bright light of accountability will protect the taxpayers. We are addressing the real pain experienced by Mr. and Mrs. Jones on Main Street," Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said just moments before the final vote.
Lawmakers also vowed tougher regulation of the financial and banking industry to prevent future abuses similar to those in the mortgage and trading industry, widely believed responsible for the current global and U.S. economic crisis.
"It would be a betrayal if we were to stop here. We have to perform serious reform, comparable to the New Deal, with a new set of regulations for all of the financial industry," said Barney Frank, the chairman of the powerful House Financial Services Committee.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich warned that the plan is a mistake, as he cast his vote against it.
"This bill represents an utter failure of the democratic process," Kucinich said. "It represents the triumph of special interest over the triumph of the public interest," he said.
"We could have recognised the power of government to prime the pump of the economy to get money flowing through out society by creating jobs, health care and major investments in green energy," he said.
Many economists continue to sound warnings that the bailout was misguided and that the U.S. government needs to take more action.
Timothy Canova, professor of international economic law at Chapman University School of Law, said nationwide there are 10,000 foreclosures a week. More can be expected without additional help from the government.
"The bailout is directed at the top of the pyramid, it doesn't do much to help the foreclosure waves at the bottom. It keeps pulling down the financial structure," he warned.
The nation needs a moratorium on further foreclosures and new bankruptcy rules that will protect homeowners," Canova said.
"This is an imperfect solution," Scott added. "Most effective would be to inject capital into commercial banks, as they did during the Great Depression."
Overall, the government needs to invest up to 900 billion dollars to stimulate the economy. If it spent the money on shoring up the country's crumbling infrastructure and schools, that would create jobs. States, like Massachusetts and California that are reeling from the economic slowdown, need help from the federal government, too, he said.
"We also must help homeowners, and help them refinance their mortgages," Scott said. The government could create something similar to the homeowner's loan corporation that saved many homes from foreclosure during the depression. The programme would allow homeowners to obtain low-interest loans.
"This would keep people in their homes and cut down on foreclosures," he said.
That would be good news to Emily Rosenbaum, executive director of Coalition for a Better Acre, a non-profit that aims to improve neighbourhoods in Lowell and Lawrence, Massachusetts, poorer communities that are often the first stop for new immigrants.
The organisation aids people facing foreclosure, presently running at 40-50 per month for the region.
"The number of foreclosures jumped last year three-fold. In 2006, there were 93 foreclosures, and in 2007, there were 293. This year we don't know the numbers yet but we are expecting another doubling," she said.
Foreclosures can send a neighbourhood into a "downward spiral", she added.
"Having boarded-up houses on a street, and vacated buildings attracts crime and vagrancy," Rosenbaum said. "We don't know what the effect of the actions in Washington will be. For some time, this has been a challenging environment."
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Show AllJust as with the unnecessary war of choice based on lies, distortions and half truths, Americans MUST look at the names and people who created the financial disaster that has wrecked this country. Look at these people who were paid billions to create these worthless pieces of paper called CMOs. In very large part, WHO are these people?? And, do not fear the truth when some whining, criminal bigot tries to falsely label you.
Just ask Richard Fuld, or Maurice Greenberg, or Robert Rubin.
The real question is not who, but *why*.
*Why* isn't Obama exposing this bailout as the mass robbery that it is?
And *why* did Obama vote for it?
Why ask? I suspect I know your answers from your previous comments.
And why not answer? Give it a try, what are you Obama supporters afraid of?
Let us not forget Dodd, Biden, and all of the Finance Committee. All of Congress, really.
I wish people had the balls to throw all of them out of office.
During the Dotcom Boom in the 90's, the smart guys, the "masters of the universe", said the ways modern economies functioned no longer held. The business cycle was no more and the economy would go upward forever. Then the whole thing crashed. During the recently deceased Housing Boom we were repeatedly told that housing prices would simply keep going up. By that logic, eventually an 800 square foot fixer upper in a scuzzy part of town would cost $2,000,000. Then the whole thing crashed. George Wanker Bush is elected - twice - and smirkingly gives the world the finger with both hands. His successor, yet another glory hungry cheerleader with a taste for war, walking tall and taking strides that measure 20 feet long, may actually be elected president despite the dismal facts not just of our economy but of American culture in general. After you've stuffed your eyes back in their sockets and picked your jaw up off the floor, what can you make out of all this? All it makes me do is want to roll over and go back to sleep.
Visualize two pyramids, one on top of the other, like a large hourglass. The one on top - Wall Street; the one on the bottom - the housing market, and the air space between where the tips meet - the middle class.
See the billions of dollars being poured into the one on top, bloating it even more. See the one on the bottom crumbling as it continues to be drained of substance. See the one on top begin to wobble on the almost non-existent tip.
SEE IT ALL COME TUMBLING DOWN!
I have mixed feelings about all of this. I don't know whether laugh or cry.
Sioux Rose
Well, the house of cards is definitely falling. I took a drive that inspires my higher thought process to try to get a beat on it. The astrological portents looked more severe for autumn of 2009 (which may still prove the case), and I was curious as to the celestial factors anticipating that event. It came to me.
According to astrological theory, Saturn is the principle of all things that congeal, consolidate, hold together. It represents the conservative premise, and that which hard work and careful planning preserve. Its opposite is Uranus, the serendipitous planet that essentially animates the axiom, "Necessity is the mother of invention." One holds things to their traditional role, the other demands experimentation. Saturn's orbit is 29 years and Uranus' is 84, and they oppose about every 96 years, which will be at a peak NEXT month. Jupiter is also involved in a very fascinating NOVEMBER combination that shows some will indeed profit. Essentially the tension across the 180 degree axis that moves from Virgo (the sign of order) where Saturn is, to Pisces (the sign of chaos) where Uranus is has acted to tear the current paradigm asunder.
What also fascinated me was that this event is taking place about 7 year after 911. AS shared previously in this forum if one adds: 9 + 11 + 3 (2001 = 3), the sum is 23 which is the hexagram of "Splitting apart" in the I ching. Not only did the towers split apart, but our entire economy has gone into something akin to a karmic implosion. VERY clearly the leadership had the choice to move from a position of enlightenment: What caused this aggression? How to mend the strains among nations that mankind can blossom together. Or vengeance, which I term allegiance to the "old gods." The US under Bush the maniac, chose vengeance and cultivated an economy that respected foremost a call to arms. With our military bloated, a disease machine spreading the legacy of depleted uranium and unexploded weapons wherever its beast touches down... the lords of karma gave the nation 7 years to artificially bloat the "worth" of its assets and infrastructure, create loans against these fabrications, and now... boom... it's all coming apart, SPLITTING apart.
Someone from CD asked my view of the significance of the 777 drop... 7 years, almost exactly after 911. 7 is the most spiritual number according to numerology. It represents the presence of spirit. We were told "what profiteth a man/nation to gain the world and lose our soul." Indeed. Future economic paradigms will need to be redesigned that measure more than mammon/materialism wedded to Mars/miliarism. If our collective stocks and net worths reduce by 50% (probable) and in return we gain a nation not so quick to make war, the profits to our souls and this world will be exponential in comparison.
Sioux Rose,
Your commentary and analysis are a fascinating --and hopeful!-- read!
Thanks for sharing.
."It furthers one to seek the great man."
I cast this more than any other quote.......I believe it refers to Ralph Nader...I could be wrong though.
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
In Vedic astrology, Saturn is the planet of karma. This whole collapse seems very karmic to me. The system of choking poor all over the planet which is our financial system is falling apart. We are seeing a whole era of European/American domination falling apart and a whole philosophy of conquest, conversion, and destruction of other cultures going up in smoke before our very eyes. What is your take on 2012 the winter solstice?
Sioux Rose
WILMOOR: I like your analogy. Great image and related lesson!
A boat full of holes? More like a barbed-wire canoe in sh*t creek without a paddle.
I always thought that it was "up shit creek in a chicken wire boat, without a paddle, headed for the falls."
Oh well, samo/samo.lol
"The bright light of accountability will protect the taxpayers." Pelosi.
"The statute also provides for creation of a Financial Stability Oversight Board to oversee the secretary as he exercises his new authority. And who, you ask, will compose this board? It will include the chairman of the Fed, the director of the Federal Home Finance Agency, the chairman of the SEC, the secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and THE TREASURY SECRETARY HIMSELF!!!"
IOW - John Dillinger will make sure John Dillinger's gang is honest and accountable. Feeling protected, Mr. and Mrs. Joe Sixpack Taxpayer?
"No longer will the U.S. taxpayer bail out the recklessness of Wall Street," said Pelosi.
"Bush signs $850 billion Wall Street Bailout Scheme"
Maybe Pelosi and the corporate-Congressional-complex just aren't familiar with the definition of accountability... or truth...
"The Democratic-led Congress this afternoon voted to put an end to the NSA spying scandal... to immunize lawbreaking telecoms, terminate all pending lawsuits against them, and vest whole new warrantless eavesdropping powers in the President."
Accountability accomplished!!!!!!!
But I could be wrong !
I am afraid that if the citizens do not take to the streets and stand in front of the offices of their Congressional reps who ignored their wishes with signs proclaiming SHAME ON YOU, forget it.
Ther are reasons that you have to look hard to find that in most congressional districts, 80% of the citizenry was AGAINST the bill passed last Friday!!!!!
It wasn't a "bail out". It was a "bail in". The ship of state was intentionally sunk. The "crisis" was engineered, and the "solution" was designed to insure economic failure.
A contrived (Worldwide) crisis. Banks failing "all over the World."
Americans must indeed look at the names of those who've created this rapacious financial disaster. They won't. They can't! It's outta control. The sheople should have spoken out several years ago. Te elite don't give a rat's arse about the sheep! Never did, never will.
Pay no attention to those men-woman behind the curtain. They are there to help you--us.
They helped to create this wretched crisis and now offer a solution. Classic Hegelian dialectic.
Shades of NWO.
As the late Roy Scheider stated in the movie Jaws. "You're gonna need a bigger boat."
One of my senators and my house representative voted against the bailout. I phoned their offices and congratulated them.
I phoned the other senator who caved in and served notice that I will not vote for her in 2010.
You should do the same.
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Bush played '' GOTCHA" again...
What say you America ?????
VOTE NADER/GONZALEZ 2008… You’ll be glad you did and so will I…
http://www.votenader.org/index.html
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I say, "Impeachment '08! We're ready!! Why wait?!"
Bailing out the SS America long enough for the ruling class rats to pile into their goldplated lifeboats and sail to their Swiss chalets and French Riviera villas.
Huffington Post reports that the Cook County IL Sherriff has suspended foreclosures.
If this is true, it is inspired. Give that lawman a big shiny star.
Joe
Munich: great comment and the quote from jaws reminds me of Michael Hudson saying on Democracy Now! (show on Sept. 17) that they have now bailed out the SHARKS...
Incomes of the general population are declining (if they still have a job), the upper 5 % reap astronomical profits and pay little tax but socialize cost and risk..poverty is increasing all over the world - even for working people....
we are only a step away from re-feudalisation (the rich not paying any taxes at all)
I agree with your view that this was all arranged: the banks knew that their "innovative system" of junk loans packed into Russian dolls would finally collapse and they timed the bomb perfectly - shortly before the US elections....
Obama will not bring any real change and Mc Cain / Palin are too much to bear (I recommend Jon Stewart as a satirical therapy) I feel sorry for Americans, that they have to endure this charade: yes, you can vote but really have no say in the real policitical decisions (what Noam Chomsky calls a "formal democracy") but thinking about it, it is not much different here in Europe....
I am trying to write down my thoughts here: http://uglyrumors.wordpress.com/
(If anyone bothers to read them, your comments are welcome...)
This is the ultimate taxation without representation.
Why has the revolution been cancelled?
Where the hell are Americans?
civil behavior - "Where the hell are Americans?"
They're mostly all so dumbed down they believe all the propaganda they're being fed on a daily basis. Like one said on C-SPAN this morning, in regard to all the repugs, mcsame and his attack dog are saying about Obama - "if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck - it must be a duck!" Total dumb idiots!
Amy Goodman found one of the holes.... AIG seems to believe that spa treatment will stimulate the economy.
from todays Democracynow.org:
"AIG executives held a week-long retreat at a luxury resort just days after receiving an $85 billion taxpayer bailout last month. The $440,000 vacation included $200,000 for rooms, $150,000 for meals and $23,000 in spa charges. Democratic Congress member Elijah Cummings of Maryland took issue with the timing of the retreat."
well, to be fair, they NEED the spa treatments to get the stink of the masses off of them...how humiliating for the Masters of the Universe to have to go crawling to "Joe Six-pack" for a financial bail out.
"The only means of strengthening one's intellect is to make up one's mind about nothing, to let the mind be a thoroughfare for all thoughts." - John Keats
Lest we leave any deserving peroson's name out of this gravy train we are paying for--at the DNC in Denver, I read daily posts by people working at The Nationmag. Someone bought me a subsctiption. (The cruise they advertise everytime you go to their site now, is in very poor taste)
One guy, and I cant think of his name to save me, wrote about all the great stuff there, how great Obama is, blah, blah,. He discussed how they got around canpaign finance "reform" by putting food on a stick--not a plate, so you didnt have to sit down.
I thought he was complaing about it, but in the next sentence, he says, "Now, I'm off to get a facial and a pink umbrella drink at the HuffPo tent.And, I should mention to anyone here, the chicken on a stick at the (cant remember--sorry) tent- is delicious!"
Thinking that it was too ironic not to be sarcasm, I went to their website--they said it was just a "tip to anyone there in Denver, as to where to have some fun". At our expense. Bravo neo-liberals.
assholes
This spa story is true. Naomi Klein was mocking it incredulously at a recent forum I attended.
Joe
Short term profit on the poor through overpriced mortgages resulted in a short term circle of justice. The shytmates who gorged themselves on profiting from the poor, are now shameless hypocrites as they attempt to gorge themselves at the public trough to save their whiny arces. This is purely big time crime.
Your Congressional representatives provided them with seven hundred billion dollars of your money and failed to legally stop foreclosures until a solution can be worked out. They too are criminals.
When a politician talks about helping the middle class start hiding what little money you have left. That is rich-speak for robbery. These arrogant contemptuous
people should be feeling the hostility everywhere they go. Instead citizens continue to support them and give them applause. Are we too stupid to Booooooo! Apparently yes!
We are confronted with the most bizarre political spectacle in
generations: Facing a desperate economic crisis, a discredited,Republican Administration sends Congress a bailout proposal that amounts to open graft - to the tune of $700,000,000,000. The Democrats then adopt this legislation, make it their own, and force it on the resisting
Republicans, even though it's unprecedentedly unpopular in the midst of a presidential campaign. In the end, they bribe the Republicans (and Oregon representatives) with another $150,000,000,000 of the public's borrowed money, and give $700,000,000,000 to the very people who caused the crisis.
THAT'S THE DEMOCRATS. Yes, Obama and Biden voted for it; Obama worked the phones and pressured Representatives to vote for it, too. They have not only betrayed the American people who pay
their salaries, but revealed their complete collusion with the worst elements in the Republican Party and on Wall Street.
The bailout has taken the whole "Progressive Democrats" strategy out in a back alley and shot it in the head.
This is what you get when you vote for a Democrat. Even if your particular Congresscritters voted against it (mine, Peter deFazio, distinguished himself), they're still responsible for the leadership and the overall party policy. Vote for DeFazio, you get Pelosi. Vote for Wyden, you get Reid. Substitute your own politicians: what you see is what you get.
That's why there's a Green Party. You don't have to endorse the bailout, the war, and telecom immunity by voting for Democrats. You can support genuine progressive policies, instead, and send a clear message to your politicians. How else will they know? Letter, phone, calls, demonstrations: why should they care, if you're gonna vote for 'em regardless? Make them care.
If you want to learn more about the Greens and Cynthia McKinney, her campaign website is www.votetruth08.com; and the party's is really simple: www.gp.org.
Oregoncharles
Oregoncharles - "Vote for DeFazio, you get Pelosi. Vote for Wyden, you get Reid. Substitute your own politicians: what you see is what you get."
Please explain this statement to a "dumbOregonian."
YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK!!!!
I thought you Common Dreamers might be interested in something I found on Yahoo News regarding the bailout of Insurance Giant AIG:
By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
Tue Oct 7, 10:57 PM ET
"WASHINGTON - Days after it got a federal bailout, American International Group Inc. spent $440,000 on a posh California retreat for its executives, complete with spa treatments, banquets and golf outings, according to lawmakers investigating the company's meltdown.
AIG sent its executives to the coastal St. Regis resort south of Los Angeles even as the company tapped into an $85 billion loan from the government it needed to stave off bankruptcy. The resort tab included $23,380 worth of spa treatments for AIG employees, according to invoices the resort turned over to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee......"
The article is much longer but you get the idea I'm sure people can find it.
(In the article Obama was quoted as saying "these people should be fired").
WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House said on Wednesday it was "despicable" that American International Group Inc. executives spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a posh California retreat just days after getting a federal bailout.
But the Whitehouse didn't say how much they themselves enjoyed this taxpayer funded orgy of consumption...
I saw it on c-span. It was a truly disgusting display.
Why doesnt Obama file some legilation to do that? He IS still a legislator.
Also, did it say anything about teh AIG guy, Cassano, whom Paulson HIRED to help "distribute the money", for $1 million a MONTH!
McCain's plan would buy bad homeowner mortgages...
Bad Homeowner? I think Senator McCain means that he would use poor and middle class taxpayer's money to buy all the 'Old Maids' that his filthy Rich speculator buddies are still holding. As for the 'Bad Homowners' - what do you think the FBI's Neo-Draconian Powers and NorthCom's newly activated 3rd Infantry, First Brigade Combat Team are for? They will surely clean up any 'Bad Homeowners' that may infest our Corporate Government's Real Estate.
The Bailout was the last successful attempt by the current Bush administration, to rob the Treasury, and the American people. McCain said during last night's debate that he will rob Social Security if he is elected.
Please switch your voter registration to the Green Party. Nothing will force an Obama administration to obey the overwhelming progressive attitudes of Americans more, than if Democrats switch their voter registration to the Green Party.
Republicans should join the Greens as well. Libertarians will allow privatization of Social Security. This is the mechanism for raiding the Social Security trust fund, the last of the money the American people own, you can't risk Paulson and Golman Sachs to protect what's left. Switch now.
As a thank you in advance...
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Milton Friedman, aka, Bush's Godfather (markets can do no wrong; only governments do wrong) is officially dead. Maynard Keynes (the deficit spending British economist) is back for a second time. He worked his magic for the New Deal and helped save capitalism, for a while. Once the capitalists got back in the saddle they reverted to their old rape sand pillage ways. Now Keynes is back for New Deal: Part 2.
How many time do we need to bring Keynes back before we put a stake in Friedman's heart?
Dr Wu, the last of the big-time thinkers
Heckuva job, Dubya.
Aw, shoot, there goes another 850 billion. Whaddya mean it was only a downpayment?
Wednesday DOW
psychological support level - 9,400
program buying - 9,200
600 point range, kicking in program buying at 9,200 and bobbing up and down all day while bottom feeders thought they were getting a deal, to close at 9,250 - trending downward at close. Nearly 200 point loss... even after the Fed cut interest rates by 25%. They now only have 1.5 remaining points to play with. Stock futures look dismal. Bonds are tanking. Gold is appreciating.
No fundamental change in long term perceptions. Down and sold out.
Happy Birthday DK! Thanks for being a hero to the common man!
A boat full of holes is correct! Yet the 'debate' yesterday revealed that most Americans still harbor the delusion that their country is the greatest nation on earth.
You can get a reality check by reading 'What The Obama-McCain Debate Revealed.'
Where?
www.dangerouscreation.com
What will a rising tide do to this Boat Full of Holes?
This is what we got from Ronald Reagan's New Economy.
Can the Republicans fix this with more lies, tax cuts and borrowed money?
Taxpayers and retirees have just lost 20% of their life's savings - what a tax increase!
Humbaba October 8th, 2008 8:15 pm
"This is what we got from Ronald Reagan's New Economy."
We also got it from the Democrats which are the other half of the ruling duopoly in this country.
Lobo Gris
rosie2731
Naomi Klein (of Shock Doctrine fame) has an interesting Alternet article today explaining why some House memebers voted for the bailout. Rather frightening!
http://www.alternet.org/rights/101958/
Rosie2731
That's Naomi Wolfe, but yeah, its frightening.
rosie2731
Ezeflyer
Thanks for the correction. My bad! (There are too many "Naomis" and "Nomis" in the progressive news these days. It's hard to keep track of them!)
Rosie