Musicians Don’t Want Tunes Used for Torture
Nine Inch Nails, even ‘Sesame Street’ theme used for interrogations
GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - Blaring from a speaker behind a metal grate in his tiny cell in Iraq, the blistering rock from Nine Inch Nails hit Prisoner No. 200343 like a sonic bludgeon.
"Stains like the blood on your teeth," Trent Reznor snarled over distorted guitars. "Bite. Chew."
The auditory assault went on for days, then weeks, then months at the U.S. military detention center in Iraq. Twenty hours a day. AC/DC. Queen. Pantera. The prisoner, military contractor Donald Vance of Chicago, told The Associated Press he was soon suicidal.
The tactic has been common in the U.S. war on terror, with forces systematically using loud music on hundreds of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, then the U.S. military commander in Iraq, authorized it on Sept. 14, 2003, "to create fear, disorient ... and prolong capture shock."
Now the detainees aren't the only ones complaining. Musicians are banding together to demand the U.S. military stop using their songs as weapons.
A campaign being launched Wednesday has brought together groups including Massive Attack and musicians such as Tom Morello, who played with Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave and is now on a solo tour. It will feature minutes of silence during concerts and festivals, said Chloe Davies of the British law group Reprieve, which represents dozens of Guantanamo Bay detainees and is organizing the campaign.
At least Vance, who says he was jailed for reporting illegal arms sales, was used to rock music. For many detainees who grew up in Afghanistan - where music was prohibited under Taliban rule - interrogations by U.S. forces marked their first exposure to the pounding rhythms, played at top volume.
‘Plenty lost their minds'
The experience was overwhelming for many. Binyam Mohammed, now a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay, said men held with him at the CIA's "Dark Prison" in Afghanistan wound up screaming and smashing their heads against walls, unable to endure more.
"There was loud music, (Eminem's) ‘Slim Shady' and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this nonstop over and over," he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith. "The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night for the months before I left. Plenty lost their minds."
The spokeswoman for Guantanamo's detention center, Navy Cmdr. Pauline Storum, wouldn't give details of when and how music has been used at the prison, but said it isn't used today. She didn't respond when asked whether music might be used in the future.
FBI agents stationed at Guantanamo Bay reported numerous instances in which music was blasted at detainees, saying they were "told such tactics were common there."
According to an FBI memo, one interrogator at Guantanamo Bay bragged he needed only four days to "break" someone by alternating 16 hours of music and lights with four hours of silence and darkness.
Ruhal Ahmed, a Briton who was captured in Afghanistan, describes excruciating sessions at Guantanamo Bay. He said his hands were shackled to his feet, which were shackled to the floor, forcing him into a painful squat for periods of up to two days.
"You're in agony," Ahmed, who was released without charge in 2004, told Reprieve. He said the agony was compounded when music was introduced, because "before you could actually concentrate on something else, try to make yourself focus on some other things in your life that you did before and take that pain away.
"It makes you feel like you are going mad," he said.
‘Sesame Street' tunes used for interrogation
Not all of the music is hard rock. Christopher Cerf, who wrote music for "Sesame Street," said he was horrified to learn songs from the children's TV show were used in interrogations.
"I wouldn't want my music to be a party to that," he told AP.
Bob Singleton, whose song "I Love You" is beloved by legions of preschool Barney fans, wrote in a newspaper opinion column that any music can become unbearable if played loudly for long stretches.
"It's absolutely ludicrous," he wrote in the Los Angeles Times. "A song that was designed to make little children feel safe and loved was somehow going to threaten the mental state of adults and drive them to the emotional breaking point?"
Morello, of Rage Against the Machine, has been especially forceful in denouncing the practice. During a recent concert in San Francisco, he proposed taking revenge on President George W. Bush.
"I suggest that they level Guantanamo Bay, but they keep one small cell and they put Bush in there ... and they blast some Rage Against the Machine," he said to whoops and cheers.
Some musicians, however, say they're proud that their music is used in interrogations. Those include bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators' favorites, "Bodies."
"People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down," he told Spin magazine. "I take it as an honor to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that."
The band's record label told AP that Benton did not want to comment further. Instead, the band issued a statement reading: "Drowning Pool is committed to supporting the lives and rights of our troops stationed around the world."
Tactics to make men go mad
Vance, in a telephone interview from Chicago, said the tactic can make innocent men go mad. According to a lawsuit he has filed, his jailers said he was being held because his employer was suspected of selling weapons to terrorists and insurgents. The U.S. military confirms Vance was jailed but won't elaborate because of the lawsuit.
He said he was locked in an overcooled 9-foot-by-9-foot cell that had a speaker with a metal grate over it. Two large speakers stood in the hallway outside. The music was almost constant, mostly hard rock, he said.
"There was a lot of Nine Inch Nails, including ‘March of the Pigs,"' he said. "I couldn't tell you how many times I heard Queen's ‘We Will Rock You."'
He wore only a jumpsuit and flip-flops and had no protection from the cold.
"I had no blanket or sheet. If I had, I would probably have tried suicide," he said. "I got to a few points toward the end where I thought, ‘How can I do this?' Actively plotting, ‘How can I get away with it so they don't stop it?"'
Asked to describe the experience, Vance said: "It sort of removes you from you. You can no longer formulate your own thoughts when you're in an environment like that."
He was released after 97 days. Two years later, he says, "I keep my home very quiet."
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25 Comments so far
Show All"FREEBIRD!"
No just kidding.
"The request lines are now open!"
Bad joke.
No, it's a horrible situation, and I shouldn't make light of it.
"Anyone for another round of Waltzing Matilda?"
"99 bottles of beer?"
Sorry!
Listening to heavy metal constitutes torture under any circumstances.
"Listening to heavy metal constitutes torture under any circumstances."
And that's one reason why we love it. Not everyone gets it. I mean, if everyone did, it wouldn't be nearly as interesting. It's not everyone's cup of tea. I accept that and have learned to appreciate that as I get older.
If you wanted to get Ellen Goodman and Brent Bozell to go on a date together, suggest to them an evening of putting heavy metal CD's into a furnace. :D
Yeah. \m/
I think you mean country music, you're just going thru a phase... grin.
Local community watch groups practice torture methods using loud music. Domestic torture is booming in America.
You can become a DHS Stazi spy in your community. They use loud music in Domestic torture surviellance to let the victim know that they are always around the corner.Its called sensitizing and gas lighting.
I hear the government is shooting for 1 in every 25 Americans to become a government stazi rat.
They are hiring, and warrant less torture surveillance community gang stalking is the new big growth industry.National Security. I know I feel safe, I am being watched 24/7.
Remember , you will either be a spy or be spied on, so not every one can be a stazi rat, you have to have suspects.And everyone will be a suspect
There is one catch, you have to be a religious right wing republican with friends in the IAFF, ( International Association of Fire Fighters) to get in.
The night shift is usually comprised of misfits that are unemployable, they like their cars headlights to be super bright and mis-aligned. That's to give the torture victim the full effect of gang stalking tail gating.A pre-requisite is loud stereos and no regard for noise ordinances. Not that it matters, because the police wont do anything about the noise.Wonder Why???
This is a snap shot of what community watch torture gang stalking looks like, Welcome to the New Self Righteous, Lunatic Religious Republican Bush/Cheney Stazi America.
If you are a target, whether its practice , or a community watch leader does not like you, you will be tortured by loud music, or low hum pulsing frequencies, or directed energy weapons.
The D.E.Ws are very damaging. They can beam energy through walls, your skin will tingle and heat up, your arms and legs will convulse while you sleep.You wont know whats wrong with you, you will go to the doctors office and not be able to recreate the symptoms, your Doctor will try to label you as delusional and put you on meds.
This is all part of Gang Stalking 101, and it is being done a an organized community level.
Self Righteous Christians will always throw the first stone in the name of God.
Make no mistake about this, it is DOMESTIC TORTURE.
Sometimes ,community leaders hide behind NSL GAG ORDER letters to slander the victim in the community.Create suspicion and fear. The GAG order prevents people from talking and finding the truth about their falsely accused neighbor.
BornFreeMen
Surveillance torture victim Bradenton Florida, 24/7 for 2 years and running.
One of my classmates, who was a marine, told the class that the US uses 'humane torture'...I couldn't believe that he didn't see the irony in that...There is NO humane torture! Sounds worse than Nuremberg to me...not just 'they told me to' but 'it was right and i'm proud of it'
"Some musicians, however, say they're proud that their music is used in interrogations. Those include bassist Stevie Benton, whose group Drowning Pool has performed in Iraq and recorded one of the interrogators' favorites, "Bodies."
"People assume we should be offended that somebody in the military thinks our song is annoying enough that played over and over it can psychologically break someone down," he told Spin magazine. "I take it as an honor to think that perhaps our song could be used to quell another 9/11 attack or something like that."
The band's record label told AP that Benton did not want to comment further. Instead, the band issued a statement reading: "Drowning Pool is committed to supporting the lives and rights of our troops stationed around the world."
Good, now I have more reason to hate Drowning Pool, the corporate Pantera-lite poseurs and embarassment to hard rock/metal that they are, "Bodies" being one of the worst commercial metal songs ever. Pseudo-tough guy mook rock garbage.
It's very ironic that our military is using hard rock, metal, and hip-hop to torture suspected terrorists as those genres of music are each gaining in popularity among youth in the Arab world. People forget that metal, punk, and hip-hop are musics rooted deeply in dissent too.
I just got the book Heavy Metal Islam, and have only had time to skim it, so I'll have to dig in. I recall one Arab youth being asked why he/she was so interested in metal music and he/she said something to the effect of "our lives ARE heavy metal.
That being said it really saddens and disgusts me that heavy metal, the music I love, is being used in such a manner, let alone rap or anything else. So many people throughout the world find so much solidarity and strength within the music and the subculture. Not that it hasn't an underbelly like hip-hop does (those holy rollers burning records back in the 80's should have gotten a load of Gaahl or Glen Benton instead of picking on Ozzy the goofy uncle of metal), but it's always been so much more than hair bands or nu-metal.
Once again I reveal my musical tastes. :) \m/
But Poet's right. I want these torturers to roast. How perverse to use music of all things.
And it doesn't even work. The Allies played chess with the enemy and gave them steak dinners.
Hell, why are we even doing this at all? If we spent as much time examining our foreign policy as we figure out ways to hurt and maim, we wouldn't have to detain or interrogate anyone. End the War on Terror and everything that goes along with it.
In solidarity with the comment about Britney Spears!
But, let US NOT forget just WHERE the US Learned about Torture:
"The methods and photos from Abu Grahib and Guantanamo were no shock to any Palestinian who had been in prison between 1967 and the ‘80’s.
"All the methods used in Abu Grahib were normal procedures against Palestinians. In 1999 Internationals, Palestinians and Israelis for human rights threatened a boycott against Israel and that is what forced the Supreme Court to address the torture issue.
"They did not ban torture and the General Prosecutor can choose not to prosecute those who still use it."-Ala Jaradat, to this reporter while in Ramallah at the Headquarters of ADAMEER [Arabic for conscience] January 5, 2006.
...In 2007, Naomi Klein, in her book "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" argued that at the height of the 2003-07 economic boom, the military industrial complex was driving Israel's tremendous economic growth, and Israel had the largest GDP growth of any Western country.
Klein theorized that the source of Israel's tremendous economic growth in the past five years cannot be attributed simply to its encouragement of high tech entrepreneurship and basic science. Its success must be understood, rather, as a product of its ability to use the occupation of Gaza and the West Bank as a laboratory for defense industry innovation -- and to showcase their wares.
"Young Israeli computer scientists and engineers gain their training in the military, and then go on to start the kind of technology companies that have proliferated wildly in Israel and whose products are much sought after abroad. The entire Israeli hi-tech sector and not just military technology per se, is thus an outgrowth of Israel's hyper militarization. The Israeli economy's tech sector grew by 20% in 2006 alone, and Israel is now the foreign country with the second most US stock exchange-listed companies. Klein's point that Israel's military-derived technologies are an economic growth-driver because they can be tested in situ is correct, but it is insufficient for describing the magnitude of the military's tremendous penetration of the country's economy. Palestinians under occupation can indeed be seen as human "guinea pigs" and not just merely military targets, as Klein claims, but the society's militarization is far more profound than even she suggests." [1]
After the dot-com bubble burst in 2000, Israel's economy was devastated, but then came 9/11, and "suddenly new profit vistas opened up for any company that claimed it could spot terrorists in crowds, seal borders from attack and extract confessions from closed-mouthed prisoners…Many of the country's most successful entrepreneurs are using Israel's status as a fortressed state, surrounded by furious enemies, as a kind of twenty-four-hour-a-day showroom--a living example of how to enjoy relative safety amid constant war…
Israel now sends $1.2 billion in "defense" products to the United States—up dramatically from $270 million in 1999…
That makes Israel the fourth-largest arms dealer in the world…Much of this growth has been in the so-called "homeland security" sector.
Before 9/11 homeland security barely existed as an industry. By the end of this year, Israeli exports in the sector will reach $1.2 billion--an increase of 20 percent. The key products and services are …precisely the tools and technologies Israel has used to lock in the occupied territories.
Israel has learned to turn endless war into a brand asset, pitching its uprooting, occupation and containment of the Palestinian people as a half-century head start in the "global war on terror…
Israel's policy of erecting walls and checkpoints to seal off the occupied territories are also "laboratories where the terrifying tools of our security states are being field-tested Palestinians--whether living in the West Bank or what the Israeli politicians are already calling "Hamasistan"--are no longer just targets. They are guinea pigs…"
The Rest:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=860&Itemid=198
Eileen Fleming, Author, Founder WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
Producer "30 Minutes With Vanunu" and "13 Minutes with Vanunu"
Actually, we did not learn the Abu Ghraib torture methods from Israel after 1967.
Those methods were developed by Canadian psychologist Donald Hebb in the 40s, at the behest of the CIA.
In the 90s, an "Interrogation Manual" known as "KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation" was declassified, in it the techniques used at gitmo/ Abu Ghraib are laid out. It's worth reading:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122
I think that these long suffering victims of torture should file a War Crimes Lawsuit
with the ICC against the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA).
Listening to anything that Britney Spears sings is torture.
Right wingers used to ask me why I hate America back when I still didn't; I'm not sure anymore I don't -- but I can give them a good answer. And I'm not too fond of Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, or even imperialist so-called liberals either. I guess 7 years of looking at pictures of exploded children and hearing about torturing people can do that.
One would think that the U.S. government had never heard of copyrights or intelectual property.
I designed stickers to raise awareness about the use of music in torture. They're best used when applied directly to the CD... not that I'm suggesting you pursue such an action.
Some of the "troops" that Americans love so much have also talked about blasting aggressive-sounding music like Rage Against the Machine to psyche them up for bombing raids and house raids in Iraq and Afghanistan. And a lot of right-wing fans of the progressive band Rage Against the Machine just get off on the music's aggressive sound, with some interpreting their appearance in Guantanamo garb as an endorsement of brutality. I'm glad Rage is finally speaking out against this stuff.
And don't think that it's only music and temperature that are used by the US to torture prisoners. Electric torture, drug torture, attacks by dogs, beatings, and medical torture are also rife, often accompanying the loud music and brutal temperatures, just like in the Chilean and Argentinean military torture chambers the US encouraged in the 70s.
It is my understanding that RATM has always been against the invasion and occupation. Your words suprised me, but then, nothing that right-wing fruitcakes do suprises me.
I meant that they have only recently (as far as I know) started speaking out specifically against their music being used as torture by the US military. I am well aware that they've been against the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. They were also against US attacks against Iraq in the 90s. Perhaps I could have more clearly conveyed that I would like them to have spoken out against the US using their songs for torture years ago, rather than just recently. I also wish they'd speak out against right-wing fans who think their lyrics are celebrations of aggression and machismo.
And I don't know where you got the idea that I'm a right-winger. By fruitcake, I suppose you mean that I'm crazy. Or maybe you mean that I'm gay. I am gay, but I don't think I'm crazy. The word fruitcake used as an insult to mean crazy is outdated, by the way, more typical of the 1950s than the first decade of the 21st century. That's why 50s-loving right-wingers like Rush Limbaugh are just about the only ones who use it. Am I to conclude that your use of it means you love the 1950s the way right-wingers do and are thus a right-winger yourself?
Sorry, I did not mean that you are a right-wing fruitcake, far from it. My apologies.
I guess using the word fruitcake to mean crazy dates me, eh?
Drowning Pool?
I've never heard from such band, that's how bad they must be. A$$ HOLES!
Just in from DOHWAM (Dept Of Hey WAIT A Minute)
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"WARNING" --from Barry Cleveland's new album:
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"NEWS" http://aofthemovie.com
http://flickr.com/photos/amor2c/2870824476/in/pool-828437@N25
I feel so proud being an Amerikan knowing our governemnt is actively trying to drive people to mental, physical, and financial ruin. I am glad that we have finally found the definition of compassionate conservatism. We touture them, but we do it compassionately with music and lights. Just like a concert! The leaders of the US make me want to puke. Tell me again how any comparisons to the Bush Regime and Nazi Germany are unfounded. I need some reassurance. Anyone, even Jake Newton!!!
Well, when the krauts took over a country they did a much better job of suppressing resistance than did bush et al. The krauts had a much better plan for taking over the world than did bushie. Unlike Hitler, bush does give the impression that he can't get away from Washington quickly enough...
Yes. George lacks dedication to complete global control. I think his main interest was the retirement benefits.
the mighty xzorloC says:
Speak to me only with your eyes.
AC/DC to Sesame Street--it really doesn't matter what it is just as long as it is loud to the point of pain and constant or totally devoid of any sensory stumulus (as in sensory deprevation). Either extreme will drive you or me hallucinatingly crazy.
These folks are worse than the saddists of Nazi Germany.
Poet