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Obama: Declare an End To 'The War on Terror'
The Middle East looms large for Barack Obama, and in Washington it's clear that the seething arc of crises from Gaza and Lebanon through Iraq and Iran into Afghanistan and Pakistan won't let Obama ignore the region from Day One. Starting today, and continuing for the rest of this week, I'm presenting a series of pieces about Obama's Middle East. Today, we start with the so-called War on Terror. Tomorrow, I'll deal with Afghanistan and Pakistan. On Thursday, Iraq. On Friday, Gaza, Israel, and Lebanon. And over the weekend, Iran.
Perhaps the area where Barack Obama can make the quickest, and most effective, pivot from the administration of George W. Bush is with the so-called War on Terror.
For seven years and four months, the United States has been engaged in a monumentally flawed and destructive campaign that President Bush described as an all-out effort against terrorism and terrorist groups of "global reach." It includes two wars, in Afghanistan and Iraq, a lethal counterterrorism effort waged by the CIA and the Pentagon's Special Forces units, and a global effort to expand US military and intelligence ties to countries throughout Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia.
Unfortunately, from the start the United States conflated its lone real enemy, Al Qaeda, with a panoply of unrelated states and organizations, some Islamist and some secular, creating a mythical bloc of evil-doers under the heading of what John McCain called, redundantly, "radical Islamic extremism." In the mix, Bush rolled up Iran, Saddam's Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Saudi Arabia's Wahhabis, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban, various Pakistani Islamist groups, and others into one big terrorist ball of wax. Predictably, and aided by the anti-Muslim prejudices of the Christian right, it became a Crusade against Islam, at least in as seen through the lens of people living in the Middle East and South Asia. No wonder that anti-American sentiment throughout the region reached all-time highs.
There are three things that Obama can do in this regard.
First, Obama can declare victory against Al Qaeda. For the most part, Al Qaeda is dead and buried. Despite the hysterical warnings that continue to emanate from members of the US terrorism-industrial complex -- from people like Frances Townsend, who formerly advised Bush on terrorism, and from members of the hardy band of terrorism specialists who have an interest in sustaining an inordinate fear of Al Qaeda -- the organization is toothless. For the past three years, Al Qaeda has not launched a single attack against any Western target, including the United States and Europe.
Last week, no less an authority than Dell Dailey, the State Department's counterterrorism coordinator, said: "We see Al Qaeda, in a centralized role, (as being) totally controlled. Bin Laden can't get an operational effort off the ground without it being detected ahead of time and being thwarted. Their ability to reach is nonexistent." Predictably, Dailey's comments didn't get much attention, in part because the US media doesn't like to headline reports that don't set off fire alarms. But Dailey's right. Al Qaeda is pretty much finished, although vigilance and continued mopping up operations, especially in Waziristan, are required. It's been crushed in Afghanistan, it has been utterly destroyed in Iraq, it has been obliterated in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, and its operations base in North Africa, which was mostly locally focused anyway, is under siege.
So Obama can declare victory over Al Qaeda. Using his supremely confident aura of cool, he can de-escalate the rhetoric. He can tell Americans that they have nothing to fear but fear itself. He can tell them that the threat of terrorism, for Americans, has been reduced to the level of a nuisance. He can assure Americans that they are safe and secure. He can emphasize that the chance that terrorists might get ahold of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons of mass destruction is close to zero. And he can explain that, in the unlikely event of another attack -- say, a Mumbai-style explosion of guerrilla war or an Oklahoma City-style truck bombing -- the United States will undertake a patient and ruthless effort to track down the perpetrators.
Second, Obama can make it clear that the United States is, from now on, playing by the rules. No more torture. No more rendition to torture-prone nations. No more Guantanamo. No more Abu Ghraibs. Respect for the rule of law. In all of this, the United States will use its intelligence and law enforcement apparatus with utmost professionalism to protect Americans, preventing terrorist acts when we can and tracking down the terrorists when we can't.
And third, Obama should deliver a major speech, aimed at Americans, explaining the many and subtle differences among the opponents and adversaries of the United States in the Muslim world. On the one hand, he should say, there can be no reconciliation or truce with Al Qaeda. On the other hand, with nearly all of the other components of the Bush-McCain Terrorist Ball of Wax -- Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Taliban, especially -- we will talk, we will listen, we will negotiate, we will seek at least a truce, and we will try to establish a permanent, working accord.
In declaring an end to the War on Terror, Obama will have no choice but to provide Americans with a detailed, and rational, explanation of who the enemy is -- and who it is not. This cannot be a one-speech effort. Rather, it will require a sustained communications effort by Obama and his entire team. Seven years of mind-numbing propaganda from the Bush White House has convinced tens of millions of Americans that the threat of terrorism is both imminent and vast. Those tens of millions are convinced that an enormous, global terrorist movement that extends far beyond Al Qaeda is out to get us. It is Obama's urgent task to explain, calmly, that it isn't so. For seven years, Bush used the trauma of 9/11 to stoke Americans' fears, and in so doing he created an enemy that doesn't exist in the real world. Like the mythical Iraqi WMD, the worldwide terrorist threat isn't there. Obama can say so.
Will he do this? It's not impossible. During several interviews, John Brennan, one of Obama's top intelligence advisers who will lead the White House's counterterrorism policy efforts, told me that he is flatly opposed to the very notion of a "War on Terror." And, he told me, he favors the idea of a dialogue with organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood. And he suggested that Obama feels the same way.
Though Obama is inexperienced in international affairs, putting an end to the War on Terror once and for all is a step that will appeal to his instincts. He's pledged to deliver a major address on US relations with the Islamic world, and he's said that he would do so in an Arab or Muslim capital, perhaps Cairo. Stay tuned.
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Show AllIf Obama is a real Statesman he will declare the war on terror over, and institute a new policy of tolerance and understanding to all corners of the world. The platform is waiting for Obama. He has a domestic following as well as international support. Everything is in place for him to rise to the level of Statesman. He doesn't have to be the chosen one, just an honest one. If he stays as just a politician, then we will have missed another opportunity to put this country back on the right track.
Hoa binh
since1492
Your assumption being that there is really no militant muslim movement and no real danger?
The "war on terror" is certainly a silly term and a simplistic label for a situation. Like "Shock and Awe"
.The intelligence services of most western nations concur that there are about 30,000 members of AlQaeda world wide. Lump them in with the likes of Hamas, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood and a few others and you will not yet achieve even a fraction of the numbers we have slaughtered in Iraq alone.
Militant Hamas has killed nine Israelis, most members of the IDF, while Israeli bombs have killed 900, many women and children.
Thomas, a policy that appears to the East be another christian crusade, one that aggravates hostility rather than seeks ways to end such, one that installs puppet regimes to protect American interests seems only to escalate hostility and guarrantee further violence. I believe that it does exactly what it was designed to do, I further believe that Obama intends to continue this wretched policy.
Let me prophesize for a moment, if I may. When the new President is sworn in his name will be called out, it will be "Barack H. Obama and not Barack Hussein Obama...want to bet?
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
At least you admit there is a group of Islamic militants out there! Many here don't.
I don't think 1492 is one of them.
That wasn't a comment about anything other than the fact that there is a militant danger. A real one.
Looking back I probably wouldn't have posted this at all except I had just been bushwacked into looking at a picture of a dead little Palestinian girl. I was so pissed you wouldn't believe. It brought back memories of little girls I saw, not in the clean pictures these folks were using for political purposes......I know, get past it.
But this post was not in the vein you thought and as it appears now to me. Wasn't meant that way in any case.
"When the new President is sworn in his name will be called out, it will be "Barack H. Obama and not Barack Hussein Obama...want to bet?"
I would not. But it properly should be Hussein as you know and I believe they will do it correctly. But bet on it....nope!
There will always be a group of militants of some sort somewhere in the world. The issue is what you are going to do about them. The issue is whether what you are currently doing actually helps them in recruiting.
rfloh
"The issue is what you are going to do about them"
Now that we have established that running around attacking countries willy nilly isn't a good strategy and calling it a "War On Terror" isn't too smart, it would probably be a good idea to work on our intelligence agencies and work with various police agencies since this has proved effective.
"The issue is whether what you are currently doing actually helps them in recruiting"
Ha! I don't think there is any question that what our coward in chief did helped in recruiting for them, increased funding for them, provided live fire training for them, helped them test tactics and weapons. Do you?
At least this is my opinion.
.Smart fellow, are you sure you are a Texas Irishman?
The key to combat terrorism ( if that is what it really is ) is exactly as you note, by using police not military. What the heck ever happened to the carrot? We see plenty of sticks.....
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
That is one thing I am sure of. Yes it is organized terroism and yes it is a legitimate threat.
The question really is where it really is and if it really threatens us here. Of course it does some, but how much really? Thats my question.
Texan? Irishman? Yep, thats me. A combination that assures strange combinations of opinions.
Declaring an end to the "War on Terror" is nothing less than a PR stunt (wghich is also what its declaration was) unless we understand:
1. It means repeal of the USA Patriot Act
2. It means repeal of the Military Commissions Act.
3. It means dissolution of the Department of Homeland Security
4. It means we "tear down that wall" on our Southwestern border.
5. It means we close the gulag of prisons and stop extraordinary rendition.
6. It means decomissioning the 4th fleet.
7. It means dismantling Northcom's mission in opposition to Posse Comitatus.
To sum up simply it means dismantling the entire national security state nightmare so perversly constructed by the Bush adminstrations over the past 8 years. Granted all of it cannot be done in the first 100 or even 1000 days, but without a clear commitment towards such final goals rhetoric, no matter how eloquent, is useless.
Poet
I completely agree. Putting an end to the war on terror means nothing without putting an end to the war on the constitution and the American people.
Sioux Rose
POET: Right on!
I'd say it would also call for the equivalent of an intellectual immunization campaign waged against the diseased and warped thinking that led to the whole inversion of our nation fed a media diet of false info on a 24/7 basis. In other words air time utilized to disentangle minds caught up in the knots of skillful deception.
Poet
Though I feel you are mostly right here (especially the Military Commissions Act), you might want to reconsider your view of our Southwestern border, The situation there is bad and getting worse. Over 5700 deaths there last year.
I'd also suggest you might hold up on throwing away the 4th fleet.
The 5700 dead Mexican economic refugees join 1 million Iraqi brothers/sisters as victims of the US elites' class war aggression. The Mexicans are being force-fed illegal US corn to get them addicted and dependent on it. They have to come here to make the money for their families in Mexico to buy the gringo corn. We're not only tearing down the wall, we're tearing down the gringo designs to monopolize the Mexican corn market. The Mexicans don't want to come here. They want the right to produce for their local communities. USans will one day wake up, get a clue, and take back their production given away to east Asia. Localism works everywhere for all the people. Global trade is a sad case. Can we bury global trade along with the "war on terror"?
.Bravo! I hope Thomas has his thinking cap on....
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
ardee
The only puzzling thing here is, why would you think I'd disagree with what he said? Except for the corn remark, I've said the same things....I think, have I not?
.snide remark on your immigration rants....I do have to remain in character!
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Thanks! I "savor" dependability!
"on your immigration rants"
Correction, I hope I'm not ranting, but if I am, everyone needs a good rant on things they believe and know are right. But you say "immigration" and I don't believe I have addressed immigration once. (I think)
I am completely opposed to illegal immigration at any time for any purpose. Illegal immigration and immigration are two entirely seperate issues and cannot be combined.
."I am completely opposed to illegal immigration at any time for any purpose. Illegal immigration and immigration are two entirely separate issues and cannot be combined."
Then work intelligently to end the need for desperate people to risk life and limb to come here in order to ensure the survival of their families. Demonizing victims (which is exactly what illegals are), is not the way, it simply reeks of hardheartedness. Work to end illegal employment practices, work to end the assault on foreign economies that create the hordes of the landless and desperate. Work to streamline and modernize the immigration laws and the barriers that make legal entry here both discriminatory and a seven year process.
Its too easy to look down upon the voiceless, the disenfranchised, the hopeless while ignoring the realities. It seems that you ally yourself with some who post absolute nonsense on this topic, Thomas, is that a comfortable situation for you?
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We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
rtdrury
Fair comment. And I agree with everything you said except "The 5700 dead Mexican economic refugees"
They weren't refugees, they were on the Mexican side of the border, killed in the drug wars that are becoming more violent each day. Some have been killed on our side of the border and its spreading, but its not a large number.
rtdrury and Thomas More:
You are both right. Those Mexicans killed in the drug wars were killed as a direct result of that other criminally stupid, asininely named war of ours, the War on Drugs. Let's stop this idiocy of naming things "wars" as though there's something uplifting about waging war and even more so about pretending to wage war. The truth is that the real war in all such cases is being waged against the American taxpayer and those American and other citizens who could have their health and welfare vastly improved if the trillions spent anually on such lost (and phony) causes as WOT and WOD were redirected toward real human needs.
Rainborowe
No doubt about it. I don't want "wars" on anything. I think we want solutions to problems, not catchy advertising slogans.
Concur, nothing to add, well done.
-- ekaton aka d.k.shaw
Amen, right on, hooah, whatever...absolutely the number one statement and discussion to be had! From the title to closing period I couldn't find anything to critique...I'll have to go back to check spelling and punctuation. What a breath of fresh air...let's give this some traction and "let it roll".
Declare a war on war.
Declare an End To 'The War on Terror?'
But, but, but that would take all the 'fun' out of being a president like George W. Bush!
The "War on Terror" is specious, and exists only as a cover for accelerated funding of the MIC, and a violent US foreign policy that is designed to breed hatred.
I have stated it here for years; any realistic response to terrorism must be from the police, not the military. The military are completely overwhelmed in this endeavor, as is clear from their abject failure to reduce terrorism even after 6 years. The FBI, with close assistance from the CIA, are best positioned for targeting and arresting terrorists. The State Department with an agenda of peace can marginalize terrorists and effectively eliminate their raison d'être.
Why cannot the GOP's fundamentalist wackos and Zionists see this?
Sioux Rose
WTF: How did that quote go about a person not seeing the truth if his paycheck depended on other? There are those who require the figleaf because they care more about their own gain than the lives of others.
IF Obama followed the article's intelligent advice to declare an end to the bogus war ON terror (using terror's own means), how would Homeland Security continue to claim its share of the fiscal pie? And how about all those military contractors, the impact of the darlings at Blackwater and such? Until the dirty profits are taken out of war, there will be some all too ready to promote it and claim their profit in blood money.
I thoroughly agree with your point about blood money and war profiteering being a theme that runs through this whole mess (kind of like a decorating motif) but I would also suggest that there is something more to it than that.
These predatory parasites actually prefer such profits to those to be had by providing everybody with potable water, vacination against infectous disease, universal literacy, and adaquate food. Whatever the cause these people do as they do because that's exactly what they want to do and for no other reason.
There is no knowledge of the way of peace within them so howe could they do otherwise?
Poet
Sioux Rose
POET: I know there are persons who lack empathy and compassion, who have long drunk of the poisoned waters that seduce them into thinking another people is sub-human; but it seems to me somewhere in their consciences lies the higher truth, and if they have to feed themselves lies while they look in the mirror, there are moments where a sliver of light pierces their self-delusion and I think they recognize they are robbing themselves (ultimately) in how they treat others. So to say they like that approach, I have to question that. They may avoid the inner reckoning by having $ to dine out and sit on yachts with their partners-in-sinister-means of divesting others of worth and wealth, but the Truth is not only out there, it's "in" there, meaning articulating however mutely within their souls.
Siouxrose--
Your positive and hopeful optimism is both appreciated and fervantly wished to be true, but an honest and sober look at the history of European settled America (South as well as North Serena in case you are reading this) shows a culture of violence from the git-go. Ditto for European Europe, Rome, Greece, Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, the Medio-Persians, China, India, etc and on and on it goes.
May Barack Obama surprise his supporters and even himself (as did JFK for the year 1963 till he was killed) by doing what even Obama wouldn't believe was possible. That's a prayer worth praying (or a thought worth meditating on for the "I don't believe in God" crowd) by all of us.
Poet
Sioux Rose
POET: It makes me feel like a broken record to oft repeat the same "mantra" that we cannot judge what flesh is heir to on the basis of its mars-oriented conditioning. From the moment the wedge was placed between the HOLY union between man and woman by the church castigating sex, the most natural act, as sin, a schism began. It is my belief that from that cleaving of the "dough" of humanity, all other ism divisions began. In this forum, there are very clever minds who note the degree to which capitalism's division of crumbs sets person upon person, a reliable means that leads to conflict if not war at reliable intervals.
Reconditioning humankind is NOT going to be an easy task, and probably neither one fulfilled in OUR generation, but we must begin somewhere. And I think LOVE as antidote to hate and division is an apt place to start. The degree to which we can place aside our grievances, these created by our egos, and try to seek common ground is the recipe for mankind's survival. This, by the way, applying to us as individuals and extended to nations.
As you know I believe in the Law of Karma, and since our planet has a very bloody history, it's likely that EVERY one of us has suffered from war in a previous or present time frame. What will bring this endless cycle to closure, but laying down our swords, recognizing from the massive destruction the media/Internet bring home to our living rooms that what we fight for is never worth the price paid in dead persons, ecosystems, and infrastructure. The costs-benefits ratio (if ever there was one) has been laid bare by what today's weapons are capable of doing, in fact doing before our eyes.
To argue that this is who we are, as persons is to unconsciously legitimize the rationales for future wars. I say human beings are capable of change. Our bodies can heal, even heal from things conventional medicine says are incurable... the key is what we feed them. I would like to extend that analogy beyond our bodies to our essences, which also can be healed by what ideals, beliefs, attitudes we feed them. Like everyone else, I have been conditioned by a planet where too often aggression has trumped reasoning; but I struggle with these things with the full realization that the law of karma holds me to account for what I do, invest in, and believe. Everything starts with an idea, or as Edgar Cayce put it, ideal. Even the Biblical Genesis suggests by metaphor that this Creation began with Creator's precept: Let there be Light... and as Einstein and later physicists have shown us, light is energy which is matter, and this segues into what all the mystics relate, we are, it is, all connected, thus whatsoever is done unto the least of these, indeed reverberates back to impact the whole. Another reason why my brother's salvation or higher understanding serves me. Enlightenment is the spirituall cost-effective cure for the warrior nature.
May I sum up your above post:
"My Karma ran over your dogma"
Sioux Rose
Silly and trite.
I kind of like the Hippocratic Oath.
First, do no harm.
Its a good way to live.
-- ekaton aka d.k.shaw
Yes, the positive side of human nature will crush the negative side in the end. The warlike are driven by fear and hatred, so they can't think straight, and become weak-minded, and weak-spirited too. They trip stumble and fall all over themselves. We have to stop giving them support, so please let's stop buying their fossil fuels.
Though I am not sure i always agree with(or even fully comprehend) everything you are saying, you at least understand that the heart and core of our problems are spiritual in their nature and that only an approach that addresses the spiritual dimension of mankind's dilemma can ever hope to once and for all solve mankiind's problems.
For you hard-bitten, rationalist realists who don't want nothin' to do with no stinkin' "airy-fairy" metaphysics, you will always be engaged in shadow boxing with yourself and never quite realize why you are so tired out with little or nothing to show for your efforts.
As Walt Kelly (in a clever inversion of Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry's famous battle report)had his cartoon character Pogo say 39 years ago on an Earth Day poster,"We have met the enemy and he is us". Until you see yourself as part of the problem you can never help to be part of the solution.
Poet
Sioux Rose
A couple of responses, POET. First, I very much resonate with the St Thomas admonition that "to the one much is given, much is expected."
For those of us that have our daily bread, and elect to educate our minds, there is the call to give something back to this world. I genuinely feel others' suffering and wish to alleviate it, and while others who feel as I do might serve soup at kitchens for homeless persons (a good thing), I seek to study humanity and try to arrive at stories, visions, inspired teachings that might help avert more pain on our planet. Sooner or later the quest becomes an inside job... the last house on the Zodiac dial is that of exile, or times spent in hospitals, prisons, or the type of monastic institution that gives way to expanding the life of the soul, and listening for the guidance within. Seems to me every spiritual Master taught that axiom and I'm sure Martin Luther King was DEEPLY moved from that place inside. The man was brilliant and INSPIRED... connected to something way beyond his own ego. Humanity needs these gifted souls and for the rest of us to remember their teachings and bring them forth in whatever ways we can. TIKKUM OLAM as the Hebrews say is the WORK of repairing this world.
They're not "spiritual" in nature. They are: greed, control and power. These problems emanate from the internal psychic house (mind) and nowhere else.
Sioux Rose
BINBAN: I'm beginning to think your linearity was a factor in drawing in a child who had medical problems... just to teach you to feel, to know compassion and emotions that don't fit into your insistence that all things conform to your mind! You are quite intolerant and use logic as your sword, but there are planes of awareness that transcend what you speak about, and until your consciousness breaks through your own glass ceiling, it's useless to try to convey what others have seen, felt, known, been Initiated to, and passed on.
Your eloquence and insight are appreciated.
Sioux Rose
RIC: Very lovely of you. Thank you. I think you recognize this as you and I see through the machinations of the miliary-industrial complex and its extension into so many aspects of American life.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a wnner:
"These predatory parasites actually prefer such profits to those to be had by providing everybody with potable water, vacination against infectous disease, universal literacy, and adaquate food."
The neo-conservative right wing actually suffer from severe sociopathic disorders where they get off on on seeing people suffer. You can see it clearly in the rhtoric here of people like "Goose4", "Blutodog" and "Jake Newton," they are the school bully who gave the nerds swirlies in the bathroom all grown up and with power and big weapons. How that would be cured I haven't a clue, though I suspect it derives from a combination of testosterone poisoning and ideological indoctrination the worst offender of which would be the monotheistic religions. How you stop that without trampling on peoples basic human rights I think is unsolvable dilemma. Surely we can't just ban all books on war and religions as they would just go underground, and it would be a violation of the right of free thought even if we could. And surely we can't subject people to invasive biological testing to look for too much testosterone, can we? That too seems like a violation of basic civl liberties. :(
Just as being gay seems to be a genetic physiological condition, so to does being a sociopathic war mongering asshole IMO.
"The military are completely overwhelmed in this endeavor, as is clear from their abject failure to reduce terrorism even after 6 years."
The one trillion dollar a year U.S. Military cannot even "pacify" Baghdad.
-- ekaton aka d.k.shaw
The '(global) war on terror' is the biggest issue that America needs to face, bar none.
The American people need to deal with this insane and unwinnable war. The American people need to support and in fact shove Mr. Obama in the direction that this author advises.
Otherwise, it will only get worse until the inevitable catastrophe.
the "war on terror" was begun with a conference in tel aviv in 1972 hosted by benjamin netanyahu - himself a terrorist - and was attended by the american military and bushdaddy as a cia rep - it has been a media production and fantasy from the get go and the arabs have been victimized by it from the get go as well
meanwhile the terrorist state of israel has been rocking and rolling ever since
what a joke
9/11 - let's not forget - was another media production of lies and bullshit perpetrated by the corporate and military junta that runs the united states
they have never established a connection between osama bin laden and 9/11 but that did not deter them from demolishing afghanistan and iraq
they have never provided an explanation as to how two planes(hic) ever destroyed wtc buildings 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7
the two terror states in this world are the united states - who have "garrisoned the world" with their bases as chalmers johnson has documented and the state of israel born in the genocide of the country of palestine
these two countries are bringing the world to the brink of destruction - all the while spinning their lies and hatred through the corporate media to the detriment of us all
at the very least the state of israel should now shut up about the holocaust- which they have shamelessly pumped for 65 years and let these memorials now be dedicated to the struggling good people of palestine
enough of the chutzpah
never forget, it was not the palestinians peoples fault that the jews were hated and rejected by every country in europe in which they lived
as eustice mullins calls them: a parasitic people
cheers, b
bryanD January 13th, 2009 1:25 pm
"never forget, it was not the palestinians peoples fault that the jews were hated and rejected by every country in europe in which they lived"
Bravo, bryanD. It is not the "palestinians peoples fault" indeed. It is all jews as proud germans once proved all too convincing. Too bad Nazis, financed by the jewish american bankers, including such prominent jews like brothers Dulles and less infamous Prescott Bush, granfather of outgoing SoB, did not finished them all 75 years ago!
I just wonder who else on this high minded progressive site of almost Marxist thinkers will share my fascination with bryanD sincerity.
v.purto
that is going too far
there are way too many wonderful and fantastic people who are jewish to be struck by the sins of the jewish state - which is another thing altogether
the state of israel has determined to genocide the palestinians - not the citizenry - who object to what they see more than anyone
the state of israel has been used by the americans as a mechanism of hate towards the arabs - but they have taken things too far - especially in palestine, emboldened as they are by american planes and guns
but i don't mean to diminish the nazi atrocities in any way - nor do i support them in any way
these desperate acts on the part of the israeli state are hateful and as we see in the posts they are generating lots of anti-israeli feelings
as well they should
god help us all
cheers, b
The terrorist zionists hide behind the innocent Jews. I realized recently, with this Gazan holocaust, that bush actually enjoys the death of helpless people. Neither the USA nor israel should continue to exist but the only way to acheive positive change is through Peace and Love. You must use your peaceful intellect to make things livable. The Gazan Holocaust is happening now so as not to dirty Obama's hands. I knew this would be his policy as soon as I learned that his chief of staff is the son of an Irgun arms dealer and that Hillary was his Secretary of State. We must stop buying diamonds( mostly cut by Hassidic Jews, let them pressure israel) and initiate a new progressive wedding stone such as ruby or emerald.
Why is it that everything that the USA does is a WAR on something? The war on poverty. The war of drugs. The war on obesity. The war on smoking. The war on terror. Ah. Wait. I know. The USA IS synonymous with war. Without war what would happen to our self-identity? I think we all know. We are war. War is us. To wage peace on anything is anathema to who we are.
Sioux Rose
BINBAN: I've noticed this too. Plus none of these wars work! I've related this before but the I ching, a spiritual document put together by thinkers of Ancient China, those whose minds were free to really contemplate the surrounding world since no 24/7 media led by advertisers polluted their thought streams... examines the nature of evil and concludes it can never be fought by direct means. The answer is to turn from the negative thing and put one's energy into actions that support a different goal, model, approach, ideal, alternative, etc.
It's that way with medicine I believe, as well. So much of the Western approach to "healing" is based on poisoning (chemo) or cutting (surgery) out the offensive tissue, so much so that the approach in my view simulates war. The Eastern healers have long understood that there are herbal & energetic ways to assist the body in its inborn capacity TO heal. One knotty problem however is the detritus of toxic substances that have found their way into our tissues as a result of the flagrant use and abuse of so many noxious substances. The body is therefore up against a formidable threat, perhaps even war, of its own; but this, too, is a product of the mindset that sees everything as something to attack. It's a long-programmed sort of conditioning that I attribute to "Mars rules." Eleven counter-balancing equally viable cosmic (as above, so below) style principles exist... all worth exploring, or better yet, taken in unison. There are no sides to the circle!