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In Afghan Debate, Few Antiwar Op-Eds
Elite papers marginalize public opposition
The Obama administration, having increased the number of troops in Afghanistan by 21,000 in March, is engaged in a contentious internal discussion about whether to send an additional 40,000 more. There is growing anger over Afghan civilian deaths, and July and August were the deadliest months for U.S. soldiers since the U.S. invaded in 2001 (AP, 8/28/09).
US film director Michael Moore speaks about his latest movie "Capitalism: A Love Story" at the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Filmmaker Michael Moore has urged President Barack Obama not to expand the war in Afghanistan, as Washington prepares to announce a surge of US troops in the conflict-torn nation. (AFP/Yoshikazu Tsuno) Meanwhile, polls throughout 2009 show a U.S. public divided on whether
the war is even worth fighting, let alone in need of escalation. In
three surveys since July, the AP/GfK poll has reported that at least 53 percent of respondents say they oppose the Afghanistan War (PollingReport.com). In September, 51 percent told the Washington Post/ABC News poll (9/10-12/09) that the war was not "worth fighting"; only 46 percent said it was.
So where's the wide-ranging Afghanistan War debate in the media?
The need for broad public debate over Afghanistan was echoed in September by Joint Chiefs of Staff chair Adm. Mike Mullen. Citing popular opposition to the war, Mullen called for a broad debate to take a "hard look" at the policy. "I've seen the public opinion polls saying that a majority of Americans don't support the effort at all," Mullen told an American Legion convention in Louisville, Ky (Washington Post, 8/26/09). "I say, good. Let's have that debate, let's have that discussion."
But according to a new FAIR study of the op-ed pages of the two leading U.S. newspapers, rather than airing a full range of voices on the war, prominent media have downplayed proponents of withdrawal in favor of a debate that reflects the narrow range of elite, inside-Washington opinion.
FAIR's study looked at all opinion columns in the New York Times and the Washington Post during the first 10 months of 2009 that addressed what the U.S. should do in the Afghanistan War. Columns were counted as antiwar if they called for withdrawal or clearly called into question the need or rationale for the war. Columns that supported continuing the war were counted as pro-war; these were divided into those that endorsed the idea of escalating the war and those that advocated some sort of alternative strategy, including reducing the number of troops.
Both newspapers marginalized antiwar opinion to different degrees. Of the New York Times' 43 columns on the Afghanistan War, 36 supported the war and only seven opposed it-five times as many columns to war supporters as to opponents. Of the paper's pro-war columns, 14 favored some form of escalation, while 22 argued for pursuing the war differently.
In the Washington Post, pro-war columns outnumbered antiwar columns by more than 10 to 1: Of 67 Post columns on U.S. military policy in Afghanistan, 61 supported a continued war, while just six expressed antiwar views. Of the pro-war columns, 31 were for escalation and 30 for an alternative strategy.
At times the Post's editors seemed unaware that an antiwar position even existed. For instance, in an op-ed roundtable (9/27/09) appearing in its recurring "Topic A" feature, the section's editors, in their words, "asked foreign policy experts whether President Obama should maintain a focus on protecting the population and rebuilding the country, or on striking terrorists."
Excluding withdrawal from the discussion was a theme echoed by Post columnist Fareed Zakaria, who began a column (9/14/09): "It is time to get real about Afghanistan. Withdrawal is not a serious option."
Some columnists changed positions during the study period, which spanned two separate escalation discussions. Zakaria, for instance, supported the first escalation but opposed the one debated in the fall of 2009. The Post's David Ignatius mostly opposed escalation, calling instead for continuing the war while paying more attention to humanitarian concerns, but he wrote one column that supported sending additional troops (10/30/09).
Pro-war columns opposing escalation included a variety of views. The Post's Ignatius argued (10/4/09) that the U.S. should "[keep] our troop levels firm and reliable, until the Afghans acquire the tools and political consensus to secure their country"; Ignatius' Post colleague George Will (9/1/09) wanted to replace ground troops in Afghanistan with more long-distance aerial attacks-which are notoriously hazardous to civilian populations:
So, instead, forces should be substantially reduced to serve a comprehensively revised policy: America should do only what can be done from offshore, using intelligence, drones, cruise missiles, airstrikes and small, potent Special Forces units, concentrating on the porous 1,500-mile border with Pakistan, a nation that actually matters.
Calls for a scale-back or drawdown but not an end to the war were counted as pro-war, including columns that expressed some antiwar sentiments but suggested that the war should continue at some level-such as Times columnist Bob Herbert's January 6 op-ed, which criticized the war but ultimately seemed to call merely for scaling down the troop commitment, arguing that "our interest in Afghanistan is to prevent it from becoming a haven for terrorists bent on attacking us," a mission that he said "does not require the scale of military operations that the incoming administration is contemplating" or "a wholesale occupation."
Herbert's five subsequent columns on Afghanistan policy, on the other hand, made him by far the loudest antiwar voice in the study period, and the author of the majority of the Times' seven antiwar columns. His October 26 column was a clear example, concluding: "Let's explore creative alternatives to endless warfare and start bringing the weary troops home."
Only one of the Times' antiwar columns was written by a guest columnist (Leslie Gelb, 3/13/09); by contrast, only one of the Post's antiwar columns was written by a regular columnist (Eugene Robinson, 10/27/09). And three of the Post's six antiwar columns were short "Topic A" responses rather than full-length columns.
The voices the papers featured on the Afghanistan debate were overwhelmingly male, with only 12 of 110 columns written or co-written by women. Though women oppose escalation more strongly than men-according to a Clarus poll (10/1-4/09), 45 percent of men but only 33 percent of women favored additional troops-women's columns were overall more pro-escalation than the male-penned op-eds. All nine columns appearing in the Post written or co-written by women were pro-war, with seven calling for an escalation; all three Times columns bearing female bylines supported the war, with two arguing for escalation. No antiwar column by a woman appeared in either paper.
Only two columns in the study period were written or co-written by Afghan nationals (New York Times, 4/20/09; Washington Post, 10/18/09); both generally supported the war, though neither called for escalation. Neither paper published a single column written by an antiwar activist or peace movement leader.
As hawkish advocates are ramping up their pro-war campaigns-including on the country's leading op-ed pages-opposition to the war is not diminishing. In fact, according to the latest poll from AP/GfK, the opposite is happening: Its November 5-9 survey found 57 percent opposed to the war and just 39 percent in support.
So the American public's majority view is a decidedly minority view on the op-ed pages on the country's most prestigious newspapers. That's good and bad news for democracy: It's good news that the public is not entirely captive to the narrow, elite range of debate prescribed by newspapers.
It's bad news because, however diminished their roles as opinion leaders may be, the New York Times and the Washington Post continue to wield an unmatched influence in the nation's capital and in newsrooms across the country. One can only imagine what public opinion would be, and what policy might result, if these papers truly offered a wide-ranging debate on the Afghanistan War.
Research assistance by Valerie Doescher and Taylor Moore.
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Show AllBARACK OBAMA HAS A PROVEN RECORD AS A PRO-WAR LIBERAL HAWK
PART ONE:
Here are some highlights from a summary of Obama’s U.S. Senate voting record:
“1/26/05: Obama voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice for Secretary of State. Rice was largely responsible…for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent victims in unnecessary wars...Roll call 2”
“2/01/05: Obama was part of a unanimous consent agreement not to filibuster the nomination of lawless torturer Alberto Gonzales as chief law enforcement officer of the United States (U.S. Attorney General).”
“2/15/05: Obama voted to confirm Michael Chertoff, a proponent of water-board torture... man behind the round-up of thousands of people of Middle-Eastern descent following 9/11. By Roll call 10.”
“4/21/05: Obama voted to make John ‘Death Squad’ Negroponte the National Intelligence Director. In Central America, John Negroponte was connected to death squads that murdered nuns and children in sizable quantities. He is suspected of instigating death squads while in Iraq, resulting in the current insurgency. Instead of calling for Negroponte's prosecution, Obama rewarded him by making him National Intelligence Director. Roll call 107”
“4/21/05: Obama voted for HR 1268, war appropriations in the amount of approximately $81 billion. Much of this funding went to Blackwater USA and Halliburton and disappeared. Roll call 109 ”
“7/01/05: Obama voted for H.R. 2419, termed ‘The Nuclear Bill’ by environmental and peace groups. It provided billions for nuclear weapons activities, including nuclear bunker buster bombs. It contains full funding for Yucca Mountain, a threat to food and water in California, Nevada, Arizona and states across America. Roll call 172 .”
“9/26/05 & 9/28/05: Obama failed and refused to place a hold on the nomination of John Roberts, a supporter of permanent detention of Americans without trial, and of torture and military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees.”
“10/07/05: Obama voted for HR2863, which appropriated $50 billion in new money for war. Roll call 2 .”
“11/15/05: Obama voted for continued war, again. Roll call 326 was the vote on the Defense Authorization Act (S1042) which kept the war and war profiteering alive, restricted the right of habeas corpus and encouraged terrorism. Pursuant to his pattern, Obama voted for this. .”
“12/21/05: Obama confirmed his support for war by voting for the Conference Report on the Defense Appropriations Act (HR 2863), Roll call 366, which provided more funding to Halliburton and Blackwater. ”
“5/2/06: Obama voted for money for more war by voting for cloture on HR 4939, the emergency funding to Halliburton, Blackwater and other war profiteers. Roll call 103 .”
“5/4/06: Obama, again, voted to adopt HR4939: emergency funding to war profiteers. Roll call 112 .
“6/13/06: Obama voted to commend the armed services for a bombing that killed innocent people and children and reportedly resulted in the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi… Michael Berg, whose son was reportedly killed by al-Zarqawi, condemned the attack and expressed sorrow over the innocent people and children killed in the bombing that Obama commended. Roll call 168 .”
BARACK OBAMA HAS A PROVEN RECORD AS A PRO-WAR LIBERAL HAWK
PART TWO:
“6/15/06: Obama voted for the conference report on HR4939, a bill that gave warmongers more money to continue the killing and massacre of innocent people in Iraq and allows profiteers to collect more money for scamming the people of New Orleans. Roll Call 171 .”
“6/15/06: Obama, again, opposed withdrawal of the troops, by voting to table a motion to table a proposed amendment would have required the withdrawal of US. Armed Forces from Iraq and would have urged the convening of an Iraq summit (S Amdt 4269 to S. Amdt 4265 to S2766) Roll Call 174 ”
“6/22/06: Obama voted against withdrawing the troops by opposing the Kerry Amendment (S. Amdt 4442 to S 2766) to the National Defense Authorization Act. The amendment, which was rejected, would have brought our troops home. Roll Call 181 ”
“6/22/06: Obama voted for cloture (the last effective chance to stop) on the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766), which provided massive amounts of funding to defense contractors to continue the killing in Iraq. Roll Call 183.”
“6/22/06: Obama again voted for continued war by voting to pass the National Defense Authorization Act (S 2766) for continued war funding. Roll Call 186 .
9/7/06: Obama voted to give more money to profiteers for more war (H..R. 5631). Roll Call 239 ”
“9/29/06: Obama voted vote for the conference report on more funding for war, HR 5631. Roll Call 261 .”
“11/16/06: Obama voted for nuclear proliferation in voting to pass HR 5682, a bill to exempt the United States-India Nuclear Proliferation Act from requirements of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954. Roll Call 270 .”
“12/06/06: Obama voted to confirm pro-war Robert M. Gates to be Secretary of Defense. Gates is a supporter of Bush's policies of pre-emptive war and conquest of foreign countries. Roll Call 272 ”
“Obama's voting record in 2007 establishes that he continues to be pro-war. On March 28, 2007 and March 29th, 2007, he voted for cloture and passage of a bill designed to give Bush over $120 billion to continue the occupation for years to come (with a suspendable time table) and inclusive of funding that could be used to launch a war with Iran. Roll calls 117 and 126 ...Obama's record shows a minimum of 20 major pro-war votes…”
In a November 2005 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), Obama rejected Rep. John Murtha’s (D-Pa.) call for a rapid redeployment and any notion of a timetable for withdrawal. Obama advocated “a pragmatic solution to the real war we’re facing in Iraq” and made repeated references to the need to “defeat” the “insurgency.” This language meant continuation of the war (Ford and Gamble 2005).
"I believe that U.S. forces are still a part of the solution in Iraq.”
- Barack Obama
So many myths, obfuscations, political panderings and self-indulgent Paeans to America so little time.
Welcome to the Obama road show. Check reality at the door.
The dearth of OpEds is no surprise since the military industrial media complex (MIMC)is looking forward to the eternal revenue stream an eternal Ir-Af-Pak occupation will provide. Open your wallets US taxpayers.
"So where's the wide-ranging Afghanistan War debate in the media?"
The same place the one on healthcare was.
What is to become of their stock portfolios invested in Insurance and defense industries, after all?
That is why if this thing is to crash and burn, it should be across the spectrum, rather than the elites benefitting exclusively by standing on the heads of those sinking or treading water, to keep their pleasure boats afloat..
And Obama, as faithful servant to the Master, enables the rising tide rather than shoring up the foundation.
As long as these gangsters pretend to govern perhaps we should pretend to vote.
Obama the warmonger and friend of insurance companies, just as he was friend of the Chicago futures traders cap and trade, schooled by Dick Lugar, favored by Goldman Sachs and the rest of the Wall Street mafia, opponent of campaign finance reform and the farthest left choice between fascist right and far right. In other words, a total fraud, as even his most loyal supporters begin to suspect.
Every policy - whether healthcare, peace or economics - that reflects what the American people would want from their government is not at the table of congress or mentioned in the weaponized press. Our government is just a great propaganda scheme run by organized crime. I oppose them. I am on the side of the whistleblower and protester who will help us regain control of our government, which is bankrupting and enslaving us so that those bailed out can continue and expand their rule.
matthew loughran
pitch you are 100% correct. fuck the 2 corporate parties. vote green or independent or for progressive candidates who really support change in this country.
dont just vote for the dims or repugs. if the misfit misreps all suck then don't vote.
The total lack of serious debate on this escalation is the result of the pentagon and their political hacks having abolished the draft after Vietnam along with the use of private armies. Now they can conduct their slaughters without hinderance from an aroused public and the media can avoid debates. The end result will still be like Vietnam another defeat.
December 1, 2009: A Date to LIVE in DESISTANCE!
Whoever controls the media controls the country. Period.
Unplug the damn TV!
It is almost as if the N. Y. times and Wa. Post are living in a time warp or have a serious case of historical amnesia. Have they somehow managed to convince themselves that the United States did not unjustifiably invade a third world country almost fifty years ago in a place called Vietnam? Are these newspapers allowing their journalists to try and convince their readers that there will be terrorists ready to storm the shores of New Jersey and California if they do not keep its troops overseas and keep bombing more brown people in the Middle East just like brown people were bombed and shot at in Southeast Asia?
Very few lessons seem to have been learned from America's disaster in Vietnam. Few mainstream journalists reporting about Vietnam, outside of David Halberstam and Neil Sheehan, wrote anything critical of what the U.S. was doing in that country. That same mindset seems to be occurring today with our less than intrepid editors deciding to once again shut out any voices [or at least keep them to a minimum] that dare to be critical of America's bellicose policies that are now being maintained in the Middle East.
It would be interesting to know the numbers of calls and e-mails to the White House over the last two weeks on this issue.I would bet many thousands mostly against escalation,the lines were largely busy for days.I called and e-mailed but I don't feel very empowered,we know who calls the shots runs the press and M.S.M. and it's not Amy Goodman. peace
"The New York Times"? What's that? Someplace that sells clocks? Never heard of them.
President Banka Obombya is nothing more than Condoleeza Rice with a sex change. I guess that's the change we can believe in refered to during the campaign.
Boycott, sanction and divest from all corporate mass media, as these are the servants of the fascist elite of America and they are the main transmitters of the psychic virus that causes mass psychosis. This is not a joke, these psychological warfare processes have been very well articulated by many Psychologists including the great father of modern depth psychology, Carl Jung. Turn off Fox and CNN and don't pick up the main newspapers!! This could be one of the most important movements to get underway to bring back democracy and justice to the once great U.S.
Don't unplug your tv.
Cut the cord while the kids are glued to it. Take children & mind control unit with bat & spade to field. Beat tv to death. Bury. Funeral. Nasty Eulogy.
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Not to worry Obomber read Michaels letter and all the emails and phone calls and had an epiphany.
Hark! LO! I shall no longer be the EVIL CUR of the EMPIRE !
I shall become a true CHRISTIAN and KILL , STEAL, and LIE no more.
Hark I shall reclaim the mantle of decency I was endowed with !
I shall follow in the footsteps of a great man Martin Luther King and lift up the poor, succor the weary, feed the hungry, and heal the lame.
I the OBOMBER shall cast the devils out of their counting houses, pull the Muslims off their torture racks, and melt all weaponry into unbiased schoolbooks.
Lo! Hark! All you really naive people have made me, the OBOMBER, see the light and I shall dwell in the HOUSE OF INIQUITY NO LONGER, but relinquish it to the HOMELESS, and move myself and my cute coterie into a foreclosed home.
LO ! I have created many valleys of death, But Michael ( and my feckless supporters) have rowed my boat to the other shore of the river Styx.
HarK! LO! HarK! I shall never again take Pilates silver in exchange for the commonweal.
Thank you all! Thank you Michael ! I am born again a new man!
P.S. Do anything that actually threatens my power and I will treat you like a Muslim.
The Post and Times have champiioned every war since Vietnam. They also champion every Israeli attack on a Muslim population, and ignore Israel's threats to attack Iran. Could there be a little anti-Muslim racism underlying these two zionist media?
The myopic issue framing of the Washington Post's "op-ed rountable" of 9/27/09 vividly illustrates the entire problem with the mainstream US media: WaPo "asked foreign policy experts whether President Obama should maintain a focus on protecting the civilian population and rebuilding the country, or on striking terrorists."
The sole basis for any continued US military presence in Afghanistan and the Pakistan border regions is the 2001 Congressional authorization for use of military force resolution. The 2001 AUMF, in turn, narrowly specified that the single goal of US armed intervention in Afghanistan was to bring Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda associates (and anyone harboring them) to justice, in retaliation for Al Qaeda's role in the 9/11/01 WTC/Pentagon terrorist attack. Period.
Nothing about protecting Afghan civilians.
Nothing about nation building.
Nothing about smiting evildoer Islamic terrorists all across the face of the globe for nefarious plots or other murderous deeds not directly linked to the events of September 11, 2001.
Certainly, too, there's absolutely nothing in the 2001 AUMF about furthering Afghan womens' rights, winning hearts and minds, securing oil and natural gas pipelines, suppressing the international heroin trade, spreading the blessings of democracy, stabilizing the regime in Kabul, or curbing the threat a Taliban-branded insurgency may pose today to the civilian government of Pakistan.
Keep that in mind as you listen to Obama's West Point speech tonight.
If, following extensive further review, the Pentagon mission in this region of the world is supposedly being changed - eight years after Bush rejected Mullah Omar's offer to turn over bin Laden, Zwahiri and friends for trial in the 9/11 attacks - then a new, revised Congressional resolution must be drafted and passed. When it comes to war making under our Constitution that's how the separation of powers works, regardless whether the Republicans or the Democrats hold the White House.
Moreover, the select foreign policy experts invited to take part in the Post's September roundtable were of course wanking themselves into a stupor over a false choice to begin with: where is it written that either we strike at terrorists militarily, or else we focus solely upon feel good civilian reconstruction efforts?
I fully expect Obama to declare tonight that he intends to do both at the same time. As in Vietnam, we shall once more be called upon to destroy the village in order to save it, under the banner of protecting the locals from themselves.
Bill from Saginaw
Bill your argument is so clearly, brightly, and blindingly right that Obama "has to wear shades" to see his future.
But I can clearly see the future.
In a political cartoon that I can describe but not draw, a future president (any future president) is standing at a lecturn like Obama will use tonight to explain the Empire's escalation of war, and in the cartoon a calendar or presentation chart will read "2031", and the cartoonish presidential figure, like Obama tonight, will have a 'speech balloon' from his mouth saying, "And we can never forget the thousands of our fellow citizens murdered by those terrorists on 9/11".
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Suddenly Micheal Moore seems less sure of his choice for president. After dismissing Hillary Clinton because she supported the surge in Iraq he now finds himself in a quandry. So do all of the people who voted for "Change we can believe in" Personally I voted green because I understood the "Audacity of Hope" was a well orchestrated sales pitch. The troops have been increased in Afghanistan from 30 thousand to 100,000 thousand and now we are sending 30 thousand more. It takes "Audacity" to stand up in front of West Point cadets and look them in the eye and say go fight for your country and hope you get home.
I can only pray that your child is not one of them
It's a fine balance for the MSM.
On one hand they need you to trust them, so they will give you some news, but when they push their agenda, they BS you into believing that the coin has two sides on one side of it. BECAUSE YOU WENT BACK TO TRUSTING THEM!!!!!
Corporate Media has one main objective; TO GAIN YOUR TRUST! #2... to push the corporate agenda.
This is as predictable as the sun coming up!
And for opinions!!! They publish the best of pro-war arguments and the worst written anti-war arguments together!!! AND CALL IT NEWS!!!
Like Michael Moore (who is pictured here), John Nichols (of 'The Nation') argued strongly that Obama should listen to the expert "voices of reason" in making this most important decision about escalating war.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/501535/military_escalation_will_harm_afghan_people_us_interests
Here is what I wrote to Nichols in "The Nation" and it also applies to Michael Moore in CD --- and many others who are beating themselves up today, and even today, today for god's sake, still suggesting the we write letters and call Obama and Congress.
"John (Nichols), you anguish that, "Unfortunately, it appears that President Obama has chosen not to listen to the voices of reason."
John, don't beat yourself or others up, that Obama did not listen to the expert "voices of reason" that you quote.
Obama proved himself a perfect bi-partisan, nay, multi-partisan, non-listener.
Your feelings need not be hurt. Hoh's feelings need not be hurt. Joya's feeling need not be hurt. And mostly the American citizens' feelings need not be hurt. Because Obama only listened to the voice of the Global ruling-elite corporate/financial/military Empire ---- which controls our country by hiding behind the facade of its two-party 'Vichy' sham of democracy --- and which hired Obama, and whose voice he does not need to listen to, but merely project.
The decision, John, was already made before Obama became president --- even before he was selected to run. Writing heartfelt letters to him (or Congress) is unnecessary, and in Cheney's words, "unhelpful".
However, Obama's long charade of "taking input", "listening", "studying", and "anguishing" are more than a bit insulting now that we know the truth --- that even the orders were signed before tonight when he will "share" his decision, and "ask" for the support of the American people.
We all have the right to feel like Chinese president Hu in SNL's skit, and ask Obama, "aren't you going to kiss me first?" --- because we've all been "had sex with".
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Either those pulling Obama's strings:
(1) are complete and absolute idiots; or
(2) do not care one whit about the welfare of the people of Afghanistan, the members of the US military, the great majority of the residents of the US, or the long-term general welfare of the US as a whole, and are making their moves in their own self-interest.
I am guessing it is number two, in more ways than one.
Bingo. You've got it right, kivals. Neither those pulling the strings, nor the puppet, care one iota about the people of Afghanistan or those of the US. They care only for their own bottom lines.....
kivals, "and for guessing correctly" [drum roll off stage, while Bob Barker's show girls enter, smiling, and waving their hands, as the curtains part, and Bob shouts:]
"YOU WIN THIS MARVELOUS PRIZE BEHIND DOOR NUMBER TWO"
"THAT'S RIGHT, YOU WIN THIS BRAND NEW 'GLOBAL EMPIRE'"
"Johnny, please tell, Mr. Kivals, exactly what he has won"
[an announcer off stage, rushing to talk faster than Bob possibly can, quickly describes the prize]
"That's right Bob, its made in America but can be driven anywhere in the world. This brand new luxury Global Empire model will make Mr. Kivals the envy of all his neighbors, while he cruises through all the primitive but exciting lands of the world collecting valuable resources in his brand new ....
[Johnny's voice trails off as another curtain parts and Bob himself jumps in]
"A BRAND NEW NATURAL RESOURCE COLLECTING TRAILER"
{Johnny's voice continues at a frenetic pace as before}
"That's right, Bob, Mr. Kivals will be able to reap untold fortunes by using his new 'Global Empire' car and trailer to tour the world in luxury while grabbing all the gifts that the earth can offer, and when he's ready to come home, Bob ...."
{Yet another curtain goes up revealing, in perfect synchronization with Bob's excited voice]
"A DUBAI LUXURY VILLA AND YOUR OWN PALATIAL CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS --- WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ..."
[The final curtain rises to reveal the real Dick Cheney, and his daughter Liz, with AK47's firing at everyone on stage, and shouting]
"YOU WANT EXISTENTIAL? I'LL SHOW YOU EXISTENTIAL, YOU PISS-ANTS."
"THE FUN AND GAMES ARE OVER. THE VACUOUS ENTERTAINMENT IS OVER. IT'S DONE ITS JOB ON YOU MORONS."
"YOU WANT GAME SHOWS? ANY OF YOU WHO SURVIVE CAN BE ON ONE OF MY NEW GAME SHOWS:
'SO YOU WANT TO BE A FEUDAL SERF?'
'DANCING WITH THE PEONS'
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine
Thanks so much Bob, but can I pass on the Dubai luxury villa? I have a feeling that this whole "Dubai as capitalist paradise" dream might turn into a nightmare.
You got a good laugh from me on that one. Michael Hudson uses these terms (neo-feudalism, debt peonage), and although tragically funny, not far from the truth.
4there is a documentary on either hbo or sho time linking
the bushes to osama bin laden in the real business
the heroin business. this isn't about government
stabilization of the afghan government its about how
much money they can make thru human suffering
and misery!do you wonder why little georgie never
killed bin laden? you don't kill your business
partner if everything is going great do you?
You're wrong. The Wall Street barons are utterly broken up over it
Iraq war build-up deja vu...
(SOS,DD)
Will it take a Nixon to get us out of Afghanistan? ("RN, Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you...")
COIN For Coin
COIN is a blooper
a policy bloater
pumped by deluded blooters
One nation under coin
divisible in
.. a manual of just US
or... predator deliver us
in the quagmire deluded by coin
for,.. by,.. and of,.. the INCs
The INCs of the coin
the culture vultures of surge
who support rather than purge
the poppy field war lords
in the dessert of dirge
One nation under sac
a Goldman without back
a preemptive manual in black
to guide the prescient puppets
of ‘we make reality’ ..hacks
for..
coin is what makes us
the holders are what shakes us
Be a counterinsurgency blot
an Alexander the Great or a Hottentot
for it’s red ink for the lot
don’t hesitate,,.. take up your spot.
Line up for an opiate.
Ship out for the coin.
The choice of either putting in 30,000 or 40,000 troops is like a parent giving their kid a choice of either going to bed at 7pm or 7:30pm.
Obama meets the military/industrial/congressional complex.
Not sure he'll get my vote next time around.
Eugene Debs said it almost 100 years ago, in a 1918 speech opposing World War I that the US Supreme Court used to keep him in prison:
"Wars throughout history have been waged for conquest and plunder. In the Middle Ages when the feudal lords who inhabited the castles whose towers may still be seen along the Rhine concluded to enlarge their domains, to increase their power, their prestige and their wealth they declared war upon one another. But they themselves did not go to war any more than the modern feudal lords, the barons of Wall Street go to war. The feudal barons of the Middle Ages, the economic predecessors of the capitalists of our day, declared all wars. And their miserable serfs fought all the battles...
"... the working class who fight all the battles, the working class who make the supreme sacrifices, the working class who freely shed their blood and furnish the corpses, have never yet had a voice in either declaring war or making peace. It is the ruling class that invariably does both. They alone declare war and they alone make peace."
... later in the speech:
"To turn your back on the corrupt Republican Party and the still more corrupt Democratic Party—the gold-dust lackeys of the ruling class counts for still more after you have stepped out of those popular and corrupt capitalist parties to join a minority party that has an ideal, that stands for a principle, and fights for a cause."
Excellent historical reference. Plus ca change...
And as for genuinely anti war opinions, those of people who are disgusted by violence and argue for pacifism, there are none.
A simplistic yet accurate breakdown:
Why would the corporate media advocate undermining their financial and business interests?
Imperialism generates huge profits for corporate interests and profiteers.
It is absolutely predictable and has happened so many times in the past, this sort of thing ought to be expected.
Thucydides recognized (in the 4th century B.C.) that the beneficiaries of war are not the military nor the people, but rather the suppliers and profiteers who laugh all the way to the bank.
It's no wonder corporate newspapers are failing. Since even before the Iraq war, they failed their mission and readers and are no longer relevant.
If anyone thinks that the Dem or the GOP are in charge, they are sorely mistaken. No matter who we elect, the ones who own the gov't are in charge.
Which group has experienced decline over the past eight years? The group that includes FAIR, Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting, or the group that includes NYTimes and WaPost?
The decline of the elite establishment in Merka is not without a fight. The elites are fighters if nothing else, and definitely little else. But their latest fight for their lives is yet another waste, and definitely almost complete.
Next comes the dawn populist rule.
Elementary my dear Watson! You don't expect the corporate media to criticize their most reliable source of profit, would ya?
It's enough to make one not care if
newspapers, busting a gut to make
themselves as stupid as possible, do
fail once and for all. I'm afraid
we're going to get what we deserve:
more attacks, not less, on our own soil. It's
already started, hasn't it?
Regarding the president's speech tonight,
some questions. 1) Which part of the
Afghan populace is the Military going
to target: the 15 per cent who's literate
or the other? 2) Would the people signing
up for the Military today qualify for the
Peace Corps? 3) When is all the fawning
over our troops going to come under control?
I realize that returning Vets from Vietnam
were ostracized, so we're all supposed to
kiss-ass from then on. But isn't the worth
of volunteer soldiers at least somewhat
determined by the wars they sign up for?
4) Is a Peace Corpsman carrying a gun in
the peace corps or the war corps? 5) Does
"putting pressure" on Arab nations actually
work? Is there any evidence of that?
David Rohde, imprisoned for seven months before
he escaped, said he met members of the Taliban
who wanted above all to suicide bomb in the
United States. Is the new pressure supposed
to help them not want to do that?
In his speech tonight President Obama told us when we will START withdrawing from Afghanistan but not when we will finish. Maybe another 5 or 10 years?
He also never told us when Afghans will stop seeing us as OCCUPIERS.
Finally how will we pay for the war costs? What social programs will be cut?
The MSM are nothing more than corrupt sychophants and cheerleaders for the MIC pretending to be unbiased and fair and balanced! They get millions of advertising $$$$$ from the war profiteering, corportocracy. They talk only about the many options of how to fight and kill in Afghanistan, and you almost never hear any options for leaving or disingaging from Afghanistan.
And this ladies and gentlemen, is the meaning of bringing "democracy" to Afghanistan. Adolf Hitler must be laughing his ribs off.
Obama has been anything but a proponent of "CHANGE". He failed us with the much needed healthcare reform, bringing Bush to justice, the war in Iraq as well as Afghanistan, his bailout of corporate interests, weak environmental regulations, and failure to push for passage of the Employee Free Choice Act.
Yes the apologists for the president will parrot the DNC approved line of "he needs time!" Or we need war to bring about peace?" etc, etc, ad nauseum.
The Democrats have proven to be no different from the Republicans. Both parties willingly support corporate interests including war profiteering!
Is it any wonder the so-called FREE PRESS is censoring opposition to the war?