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Liberals Revolt Over Public Option
The White House's signal that it's willing to back off support for a public health insurance option has sent congressional liberals into full revolt, bluntly warning the administration that no legislation will pass without a government-run plan.
(L-R) Reps. Raul Grijalva, Anthony Weiner, Barbara Lee and Anna Eshoo want a public health option. (Photo: AP photo composite by POLITICO)
A group of left-leaning House Democrats tells POLITICO that a bill
without a public option simply won't win enough votes in their caucus -
a sentiment that raises fresh questions about the prospects to enact sweeping health care reform this year.
"A bill without a public option won't pass the House," said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), a member of Energy & Commerce Health subcommittee. "Not only are they weakening their proposal, but they are also weakening their hand. This is legislative subtraction by subtraction."
Privately, the leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and Congressional Black Caucus sent the same message to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who said Sunday that a public plan is "not the essential element" of comprehensive reform.
"To take the public option off the table would be a grave error; passage in the House of Representatives depends upon inclusion of it," wrote Reps. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) and Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) in a letter to Sebelius Monday.
Along with their sharply worded letter, the three House members sent an attachment listing the "60 Members of Congress who are firm in their position that any legislation that moves forward through both chambers, and into a final proposal for the president's signature, MUST contain a public option."
Even if top aides didn't intend to do it, the White House got a glimpse of what may well happen - a Democratic civil war - if President Barack Obama does indeed give up on the public option.
The liberal uprising comes after weeks in which Democratic congressional leaders have focused their energy on winning over moderates - with House leaders trying to woo Blue Dog fiscally conservative Democrats, and Senate negotiators concentrating on a handful of Republicans.
Obama also has been put on the defensive by conservatives who have dominated congressional town halls, saying Obama's government-run insurance goes too far.
But the weekend's events show that one of Obama's biggest problems - and ultimately a critical test of whether he can get a bill at all - revolves around convincing liberals he's going far enough.
Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.), a member of the Health subcommittee and a close friend of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, said a healthcare bill without a government-run insurance plan would be difficult to move out of the House in part because liberals are right now accepting less than what they want.
"I think it would be very tough," said Eshoo. "There are those who view themselves as having already compromised on single-payer."
Of the message from the White House over the weekend, Eshoo said, "My sense is that there's a deep disappointment on that, the softening position on that."
Added Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), another member of the Health panel: "Without that [public] option there will not be enough votes in the House to pass that bill."
The White House continued to insist Monday that the widely reported shift away from the public option was no shift at all - that Obama still believes it is the best way to provide needed competition with private insurance companies. Yet Obama himself on Saturday called the public plan just a "sliver" of the overall package, followed by Sebelius' comments that it wasn't essential.
Liberal advocacy groups took the rhetorical shift -- deliberate or not -- as a warning shot.
Democracy for America honed in on the 60 House members who have pledged not to vote for a bill without the public option, and asked supporters to remind them to hold firm. Health Care for America Now urged its network to contact senators. And the Progressive Change Campaign Committee promised a new round of TV ads targeting undecided senators and highlighting their contributions from health and insurance interests.
"There is zero retreat on the grassroots level for the public option. We are all in, and we're staying all in, because the public option is the compromise," said Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change committee, one of the most aggressive defenders of the public option.
"If Kathleen Sebelius, Rahm Emanuel, or anyone else thinks the grassroots will rally behind anything short of a strong public option, that would be a serious miscalculation," Green said.
The White House is clearly betting that liberals simply won't walk away from a health-reform bill that achieves most of what Democrats want, such as expanded coverage, affordability and limits on some insurance company practices, including dropping people when they get sick. But former Democratic national chairman Howard Dean is urging Democrats to do just that - to put off health reform this year if they can't get the public option.
The damage to Obama from such a move would be significant, a sign that he didn't have the political capital to push his top legislative priority through a Democratic Congress. For the party, it could send a signal to voters that Democrats are too fractious to govern effectively ahead of the 2010 midterms.
To liberals, however, the bigger question is the reverse: why should the party retreat from a government-run insurance option simply because Democratic moderates -- or worse, Republicans -- don't like it? They suggest Obama, long a darling of the Democratic left, would suffer the consequences.
"It would likely result in a plummeting of this administration's popularity among their base, depressed turnout in 2010 except in Democratic primaries, and a well-deserved loss by any Democrat in Congress who puts insurance companies ahead of the overwhelming majority of Americans who want the choice of a public option," Green said.
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), another member of the Health subcommittee, said she was reassured by the White House message to allies that "nothing had changed," but added: "I think it important that the president make clear his support for the public option."
Recognizing the concern in her caucus, Pelosi issued a statement Monday afternoon that noted: "There is strong support in the House for a public option."
House Democrats also are growing increasingly agitated at what they see as the Senate's outsized role in the healthcare debate. Liberals are especially wary of the Finance Committee, the only congressional panel that has yet to pass health care legislation and where support for a public plan is weakest.
"The Senate needs to understand that they are one-half of the process, not the entire process," said Engel. "This is not a matter of [Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max] Baucus or anybody else negotiating a bill, than coming to the House and saying, ‘take it or leave it.' That's not how it works."
Rep. Frank Pallone, chairman of the Energy & Commerce Committee's Health Subcommittee, said the House wouldn't just roll over to whatever compromise the Senate comes up with.
"As far as we're concerned, we're going to pass as strong a House bill as possible," Pallone said. "I don't buy into this option that we're just going to buy into the Senate bill. We're going have to have a true conference committee."
The message from these House Democrats puts them at odds with some of their Senate counterparts, such as Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who are saying just the opposite about the political calculus in their chamber - that a plan that does include a public option won't pass the Senate.
The reaction in the Senate was far more muted Monday, with only a handful of public statements. Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) suggested he could withhold support, saying he is "not interested in passing health care reform in name only."
Beyond Congress, the comments from the administration and senators like Conrad have roused some liberals who have been splitting their time between counter-punching conservative opponents of the bill and taking on recalcitrant Democrats.
"It's a reminder to all of us that we have to stick with this and approach it like a campaign," said Jim Dean, head of Democracy for America and Howard Dean's brother. "I wasn't necessarily unhappy with the statements. It just told me we've got to get to work."
Doing just that, Jim Dean sent an email to Democracy for America's email list Monday that stated in bold: "A Healthcare bill without a public option is D.O.A. in the House. Period."
According to a whip count by Open Left, a liberal blog, 43 senators support the public option. "So the question is, how do you build a majority on the public option?" said HCAN's Richard Kirsch said. "You can't have a situation where a minority of folks are dictating the whole package."
For all their concern about the weekend's events, House Democrats made clear that the battle was only beginning.
"Keep in mind that we have a long, winding road before anything solidifies," Eshoo said.
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Show AllWake up, progressives, the public option has already failed in more than a few states.
It cannot work to lower costs, cover everyone, or guarantee total choice of provider.
It is only guaranteed to increase bureaucracy and increase insurance company prices and profits.
What a massive propaganda diversion.
Only single payer solves the two health insurance problems:
insurance tied to an employer
price gouging private company control of your health care decisions.
Yes, even a robust public option is doomed to fail, capitalist medicine needing more then a bandage to stop the hemorrhage, and most who support it know that. And a best last-option it surely is, as such a grand failure will open the door wide to Single Payer healthcare for all.
Along with what you are saying I think a single payer system like the Canadian system would work the best.
It is administered by the provinces but with central government guide lines and subsidies. When you think about a country the size of the US that would make the most sense. For example there are probably noticeable differences in how health care would need to be administered in Alaska as apposed to Hawaii.
Plus I would say that in many ways the U.S. has probably more in common with Canada than any other country. So if the system works pretty well there then it should work pretty well here too.
Then so we don't crash the economy any further we should probably faze in the switch to single payer. First start with the uninsured and allow them to buy into Medicare at some flat pre determined rate that would be subsidized where/as needed. To make everybody happy we could even call the buy into Medicare a tax for Liberals, and a premium for Conservatives
Once that is done every 5 years drop the age that people can join Medicare by 20 years. Insurance companies could then be given the choice to become not for profit entities that would be heavily regulated and only then could sell health insurance to US citizens. (Like they do in Switzerland for example) Then if they can do it at a rate similar or cheaper than the government great.
Finally any health insurance companies that did not want to follow that path would have some time to come up with another racket/scam to make money off of.
I think that this is such a reasonable approach that I personally plan on holding my breath until it happens. Here I go....
Sorry folks NC-Tom expired at 10:39 AM from oxygen loss. Single payer didn't come soon enough for one more person. :(
We will miss you NC-Tom
You guys are a hoot, a good team.
Let me just say that a revolt in the Democratic party is just what we need now.
A crappy bill would hurt everyone and this should be the main issue (health care) for the congressional elections next year.
That and ending Endless War so that the US can become civilized or at least as moral as the Animal Kingdom.
I definitely agree.
it has to be a TRUE revolt. standing up to the principles of the left even - go FAR with it..make it CLEAR. the revolt alone THREATENS party unity and THAT is what the rebels ought to rely on
as a way to fight back against the "convservatism" of the democrats in actuality , including obama.
what's the Democrat party going to do? they end up passing a nonsense bill of "reform" -- BUT they can BE accused clearly BY americans for having done NOTHING ....along with the GOP - except to excacerbate the suffering of americans some MORE. everyone can see that now.
obama and the "party leadership" or "conservatives or moderates"
will then be seen for what they are - along with the GOP
NOT the leadership of the USA that should have been...
and what is the ONLY OTHER OPTION?
the very thing that the "left" rebels stand up for - the very things that obama and democrats and gop - all together, with corporations -
have tried to suppress.
a Progressive, Leftwing, SOCIALIST america
because CAPITALISM has FAILED.
but the rebels have to make their move NOW while the issue is so important in which they are MEANT to be suppressed by obama and others - while the issue FORCES the rebellion up into the attention of americans NO MATTER how much the media tries to spin it away.
the Rebels in Congress should make themselves the true "representatives" of what should have been AMERICANS' POPULAR REVOLT in masses in every city and town .
that is how they can show their "leadership" and SHAME the obamas and others PUBLICLY using their elective office as a caucus of left and progressives
to do so - on national stage. it has to become a "CRISIS" in the democrat party just at the moment when obama and party leaders thought they could run roughshod over everyone with a
"conservative lite" nonsense.
No, Jim. Approaching climate catastrophe should be the main issue in the next election--and the one after that, and the one after that. It's the most dire challenge humanity has ever faced, it has the power and speed of an unrushing train, and everything else we do, even important things like health care, war, and education... have to come second. But...IF we were paying as much attention to climate change as we should be we would be electing progressives all over the country, and not just a watered-down compromised compromise but a GOOD health care bill--that is, single payer--would be easy to pass.
I'm sorry to hear that. May he rest in peace. His comments here were clear, honest and convincing. I will miss him.
I hear harps... there are lots of clouds... very peaceful. Who is that at the gates? It looks like Bob Novak. He is arguing through the gates with some guy named Peter. Bob is telling Pete that he doesn't want to be with any poor people, any people that died because they couldn't afford health insurance, or any liberals. OH, Oh. Pete just told Bob to go to hell. Now Bob is gone. Wow now that was weird...
Now Pete is saying something to me... I can't stay...? Why...? Oh I still have six months left on my Civil Liberties Union membership. OK...
Holy crap I'm falling..., falling..., falling..., no I can't be going to...
Thump...
Is this hell? No it looks like the New Jersey Turnpike. Reminds me of a movie I saw several years ago.
Cool, there is a high speed internet connection here. Man I can't wait to tell the guys at Common Dreams what just happened to me. They'll never believe it!
Welcome to the New Jersey Turnpike! So what do you think- is it better than Hell? Worse? About the same?
Well it is definitely cooler than hell, but I think it smells worse.
Oops, double post
This legislation should be about shopping around for the best deal and buying in bulk. Bringing down costs and limiting law suits while still holding people accountable for mistakes.
Let's pay the people who do the work, like administrators, doctors and nurses what they are worth and cut out the leeches in the middle and at the top. This whole boondoggle is manufactured to benefit the people who profit off of doctors!
Let's talk about "Just Culture" and openness in the workplace! Everybody makes mistakes! If "Shut Up and watch what I Do" is replaced by "If You See Something I'm Missing; SPEAK UP!", life would be better in the medical field.
Let's fix a broken system, not change the way we feed the elite.
CAPITALISM -- FREEDOM TO COMPETE FOR EXCESSIVE WEALTH
Capitalism being the reverse of equality, surely our for-profit healthcare system is the greatest tool for keeping a people vulnerable, insecure, fearful and in submission to authority the world has ever known.
Fanatics protest against healthcare -- Just before public option is dropped
Its almost as if Democrats and Republicans were all paid actors, pretending they want democracy while doing their best to protect excessive wealth.
For the medical industry steals 2.4 trillion of our hard earned income each year, and all because a self-absorbed majority would stomp us to death if we dare mess with their pleasure or excessive wealth.
Alabama_john August 18th, 2009 10:03 am............"Its almost as if Democrats and Republicans were all paid actors, pretending they want democracy while doing their best to protect excessive wealth."
My friend, it's not 'almost as if'.....they are paid actors. They play the Americans like fiddles and they fall for it every time.
They ARE paid actors. Corporations pay for them to act on their behalf.
Aspiring politicians should forget about majoring in political science in college...just major in theatre.
"Politics is show business for ugly people."
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"According to a whip count by Open Left, a liberal blog, 43 senators support the public option. "So the question is, how do you build a majority on the public option?" said HCAN's Richard Kirsch said. "You can't have a situation where a minority of folks are dictating the whole package."
Why not??....They did the same with the bailout.
Liberal Demos, stand on principle and continue to demand a public option in any health bill, or vote NO! Don't let Obama slide on this one. Call your Senator and Congressman and tell them to do the right thing.
All we need to do is every year lower the qualifying age for medicare by ten years. This year 55, next year 45 etc. until everyone is covered. At the end of 5 years we can have a going away party for the medical insurance industry.
Interesting comment on Medicare. Thanks
Great idea!
Lowering the age in stages makes too much sense for politicians. They like bills that are too complicated and large to read... it saves them time.
But this should be a health care reform fix for the congressional election.
However, we really need something better than curently-existing Medicare.
Almost no one under 65 seems to know how full of holes medicre alphabet coverage is, and how expensive the supplemental coverage is.
Read this:
http://www.counterpunch.com/cramer08182009.html
There is always something better and of course Medicare can be improved.
Free Clinics always need help too.
My sister says the freedom health supplemental is working great for her and I am considering it now.
If Medicare is so bad, why do so many people at the Town Hall meetings, including those doing the loudest shouting, say keep your government hands off my Medicare? Medicare is the primary force now at work to hold down the insane rise in health care costs. If you look at what happened in McAllen,Texas, it would appear that Medicare needs to be a bit stingier and buy drugs as a high volume purchaser.
No doubt Medicare could with more money be improved. But I think that is a second step after establishing first a strong "public option" that grows to single payer, ie universal Medicare. That is what this fight is all about.
Big corporations, some too big to fail, have far too much power and it is time for government to go into competition with them in health care and possibly retail banking, and increase the "in-house" programs for many of those that have been "outsourced" (a euphemism for "privatized". It is time for the public sector to rise up against the special interests.
"There are those who view themselves as having already compromised on single-payer."
They're right, although sold out would be a more accurate description. To regard their so-called "public option" as any kind of realistic alternative to single-payer universal health care is utterly absurd.
As for those "Blue Dog fiscally conservative Democrats", it really would be interesting to know how their support for a health care system with the highest per capita cost in the world is considered to be fiscally conservative.
Re RV August 18th, 2009 10:38 am, who muses,
"As for those "Blue Dog fiscally conservative Democrats", it really would be interesting to know how their support for a health care system with the highest per capita cost in the world is considered to be fiscally conservative."
A fair question. I'd also like to know how their support for three open-ended military occupations and TARP fits under that ever-expanding rhetorical tent. Does anybody recall them expressing doubt that we could afford those expenditures?
-- congressional liberals into full revolt, --
-- their sharply worded letter --
Look out, they're so upset they're heading for keyboards!!
Oh no, I think I saw someone packing an emoticon!
I love a charade, don't you?
Well shivved! Thanks for the belly laugh!
Here's some free advice for Barack Obama:
Forget re-election in 2012! Consider 2008 as a one-time opportunity of a lifetime (which it really was, after 8 years of GWB and the enormous contribution by volunteers who worked their butts off).
If you're going to pick sides, pick the side of the progressives and those who are fighting for genuine change.
Use the bully pulpit to clearly layout a progressive agenda, and stay on the message, day in and day out. For this, you may need to replace some characters on your team.
Don't shy away from the debate. Expose Congress for what it really is, for all to see. While you're at it, expose the mainstream media for its role in distorting public discourse.
Don't bother with how much you can check off on your list - it really doesn't matter if each item on your list is going to involve such massive compromises that it looks undistinguishable from a republican list.
If you are at all bothered about history, then it's better to stand with the progressives and go down fighting - exposing the sold-out Congress and the MSM, marginalizing the right-wing fringe to the fringe - where it belongs, and setting the stage for a bolder, more invigorated public, and hopefully better candidates next time around.
If you do these, you'll still get to keep your job for your elected term, and still get your pension and all the benefits an ex-president gets. But a better place in history than whatever your present approach might get you. That's not a bad deal, is it?
Excellent post, Alcyon!!!!
Amen to that.
Joe
Yes!
Alcyon sez: "Use the bully pulpit to clearly layout a progressive agenda, and stay on the message, day in and day out. For this, you may need to replace some characters on your team."
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He'll need to replace EVERY character on his team. Otherwise, the line he's most likely to be remembered for from the bully pulpit is, "Et tu, Rahm?"
hear here...send these sentiments to the white house on their site...we are sick and tired of 'by the corporations, for the corporations' and the obvious bribery that goes on with lobbying money...why is this even legal? Seems like a case of criminal conflict of interest to me, and blaringly so...I think Obama would be amazed at the response if he would stick to the progressive agenda, and could pull us out of this quagmire of lies and misinformation propagated by an also bought out and invested media...holy cow, there is alot of 'splainin' to do...
For Obama to do as you suggest, he will have to become a different person, not the abject coward he truely is. Goebbels sez has got it pegged.
People can undergo transformation in times of crisis. Gandhi's life, for example, was a series of such transformations - mostly as a response to external crises. He started out as an ordinary barrister with a law degree from England, initially wanting nothing more than equality for all within the empire - whereas others of his time had already started opposing the empire itself. In that sense, he was a latecomer - but still he brought something unique to the table. It does take courage to face up to one's inadequacies and rise above them, though.
You are correct, of course.
But Obama ain't Gandhi.
He ain't FDR, he ain't even Lyndon Johnson.
I think time will demostrate for you that what we are seeing now from Obama is his true and unchangable character.
Its nothing to be disappointed about, just proof that we need a different tack than "Back Barry" and "force him to change".
Nothing is unchangeable about character.
Of course Max Baucus isn't interested in any public option!!! He's totally in the pockets of the healthcare industry!
Here is a list of the contributions Max Baucus (Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee) received from special interests related to healthcare during this campaign cycle. There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever where his vote will go and who he is really fighting for.
As you can see from this list, his coffers were filled with money from healthcare and insurance companies. This list only contains the TOP FIVE individual and Industry contributors
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTORS:
Schering Plough Corp. $76,200.00
Goldman Sachs $47,900.00
KK&R Investment Corp. $47,000.00
Amer. Intrn'l Group $46,750.00
Aetna, Inc. $45,250.00
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TOTAL: $263,100.00
INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTORS:
Securities and Investment $842,150.00
Lawyers/Law Firms $685,604.00
Insurance $552,575.00
Pharmaceutical and
Health Products $506,313.00
Health Professionals $497,641.00
----------------------------------------
TOTAL: $3,084,283.00
GRAND TOTAL: $3,347,383.00
When Max Baucus convened a group of supposed interested and involved parties to discuss healthcare reform, certain individuals who backed a "public option" were deliberately excluded. Does this give you a hint about his real intent??? There can be no hope for anything like a "public option" (the very best option) when we have a congress full of two-faced people "on the take" like him.
The average American's voice doesn't have a chance in the face of this unfair system of paying for votes, which is exactly what lobbying is all about. I firmly believe that lobbying should be declared a criminal offense and labeled for what it really is: BRIBERY!!!
The information provided in this posting is available as it relates to all of our congress personnel at www.opensecrets.org.
FrankS aptly sums up this entire mess. There isn't and never was going to be healthcare reform. Since it's reportedly Obama's "top legislative priority," he obviously has no screaming idea how to pass it thru a (Democratic) Congress without encountering fierce resistance at every turn--all because he's refused from the outset to entertain the notion of single-payer. That opens the door to a bought-and-paid-for Congress, epitomized by creeps like Baucus, who are ONLY going to do the bidding of Big Insurance and Pharma. Even an anemic public option is too threatening to that cabal, so it too is off the table.
Obama is proving beyond all doubt what a misereably ineffective leader he really is. Unless of course he's had no interest in this issue from the beginning except to even further empower and enrich the very industries that have defrauded the public for over 60 years to continue their obscene practice. In that case, he and Baucus are joined at the hip.
Sir, I believe you are quite correct. And the system is so entrenched and corrupt that the public interest is forever lost. The only answer to lobbyists is to put a bounty on them. last figures I read was that there were approx. 6 of the bastards working over every Seantor who is supposed to be representing the public interest. Since there are only 50 senators, that would mean (if the ratio is correct and if the bounty were $1,000,000 per lobbyist about $300,000,000. A mere pittance when compared to the cost of allowing them to win the day ( which they almost certainly will) because progressives are polite people. Being polite is a fine attribute, but looks weak in a fight. This is a fight and it will be lost because Democrats either are really Repuglican Lite or do not understand that politeness and solicitude of one's opponents does not carry the day.
Is this "better late than never" or "too little too late"?
I'm sure it's the latter.
As with the anti-constitutional erosion of civil liberties and the rule of law, our government pulls to the right.
So if the previously proposed public option was a lame, half-assed, bogus "compromise" option in the first place, and even THAT one wasn't worth fighting for, you may rest assured that the option that's kinda-sorta back on the table will be even more execrable.
As Mad Max Baucus tried to explain to the single-payer advocated during his token meeting with them: Obama needs a win.
So the political charlatans will strive to come up with the least effective and productive option possible that Obama can claim as a "win"-- and not just A win, but a decisive win after a hard-fought battle, and all for the benefit of We the People.
I can only hope that the legislation makes special provision for the pandemic of projectile vomiting that will occur after the signing ceremony.
· Yr Obd't Servant
HR 676 is the only bill worth supporting. Always has been. Anything else is just a giveaway to the industries.
I think I'm beginning to hear a faint murmering from the public: "If you kids keep squabbling and make me stop the car you are going to regret it!"
bluepilgrim: Exactly my hope, though I hadn't thought of phrasing it that way. With Obama going too far for conservatives, not going far enough for liberals, that "car" is going to "stop" (there will be no health care reform legislation that will have any significant impact on health care). My interest is in knowing what happens when the car stops. If it starts again where it should have started in the first place, on a single payer track that is the only way to get to "grandma's house" (universal health care), it could be a useful new start. "Everybody" (an overwhelming number of bodies) including Obama has said single payer is what they want. But we've been told that it can't be enacted because it's not "practical." So the "practicality" of a bastardized "compromise" breaks down in squabbling and failure. How about if Congress goes back to work in September with a resolve to do something that WILL work? That is a simplified "medicare for all" that we already know will work for all because it has worked so well for some. Okay, kids, is that settled? Now let's get on the road again to grandma's, that turkey will be getting cold. And believe me, kids, you won't "regret it."
"My interest is in knowing what happens when the car stops."
Here is what happens:
A new faux populist pops up with a rebel yell and an instant massive following. Fox news impotently attempts to slander said fellow with transparently absurd statements that a moron could see through. Perhaps they'll try to buy Dean into this role but I hope he dosn't bite. In the meantime they pass an HR676 type bill but fail to fund it.
And that will be the elite's big mistake. The liberals KNOW they've got the public behind them and they are ready to outgame the gamers. This is going to get ugly. And for the rich, it's going to get expensive. They should have given us HR676 and funded it without all this dictatorial behavior. It forced our public to squarely face our complete absence of democracy and the arrogant hubris of corporate front men. They went too far. Now the public is truly furious for the first time since the civil war but this is a class war. We won't be gamed into hating the "north" or the "south". Our enemies are the corporations and their shills in the Supreme Court and the government.
AGG: your stopped car scenario makes some sense. Mentioning Dean, I've thought he might also be ready to get himself back into the "populist rebel" role as he's come out against dropping of public option. Like you, and maybe for different reasons than mine, I hope he doesn't again occupy a "faux populist" role as (I think) he did in 04 to head off the true progressives in the presidential race. That would be a scary prospect, but I think there are a few more rebels out there who could lead the charge for HR676 (to which, he said quite categorically in 04, he said he was opposed).
Thanks for the heads up on 04. I'd forgotten. My hopes for Dean are now based on the fact that the Obama team rejected him so there must be something good in him. It's true that he was certainly not a progressive as a governor here in Vermont.