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Stepping Up to the Age of Empathy
'Empathic Civilization': When Both Faith And Reason Fail
While our radio talk shows and 24-hour cable TV news programs incessantly play off the political rift between conservative and liberal ideologies, the deeper conflict in America has always been the cultural divide between faith versus reason.
At the dawn of the modern market economy and nation-state era, the philosophers of the Enlightenment challenged the Age of Faith that governed over the feudal economy with the Age of Reason. Theologians and philosophers have continued to battle over faith vs. reason ever since, their debates often spilling over into the cultural and political arenas, with profound consequences for society.
Today, however, at the outset of a global economy and the biosphere era, a new generation of scientists, scholars, and social reformers are beginning to challenge some of the underlying assumptions of both the Age of Faith and the Age of Reason, taking us into the Age of Empathy.
The empathic advocates argue that, for the most part, both earlier narratives about human nature fail to plumb the depths of what makes us human and therefore leave us with cosmologies that are incomplete stories--that is, they fail to touch the deepest realities of existence. That's not to dismiss the critical elements that make the stories of faith and reason so compelling. It's only that something essential is missing--and that something is "embodied experience."
Both the Abrahamic faiths--Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--as well as the Eastern religions of Buddhism, Hinduism, and Taoism, either disparage bodily existence or deny its importance. So too does modern science and most of the rational philosophers of the Enlightenment. For the former, especially the Abrahamic faiths, the body is fallen and a source of evil. Its presence is a constant reminder of the depravity and mortality of human nature. For the latter, the body is mere scaffolding to maintain the mind, a necessary inconvenience to provide sensory perception, nutrients, and mobility. It is a machine the mind uses to impress its will on the world. It is even loathed because of its transient nature. The body is a constant reminder of death, and therefore, feared, disparaged and dismissed in the world's great religions and among many of the Enlightenment philosophers.
Most of all, the body is to be mistrusted, especially the emotions that flow from its continuous engagement with and reaction to the outside world. Neither the Bible nor the Enlightenment ruminations make much room for human emotions, except to depreciate them as untrustworthy and an impediment either to obedience to God in the first instance or to the rational will in the second instance.
In the modern era, with its emphasis on rationality, objectivity, detachment, and calculability, human emotions are considered irrational, quixotic, impossible to objectify, not subject to detached evaluation, and difficult to quantify. Even today, it is common lore not to let one's emotions get in the way of sound reasoning and judgment. How many times have we heard someone say or have said to someone else, "Try not to be so emotional . . . try to behave more rationally." The clear message is that emotions are of a lesser ilk than reason. They are too carnal and close to our animal passions to be considered worthy of being taken seriously--and worse still, they pollute the reasoning process.
The Enlightenment philosophers--with a few notable exceptions--eliminated the very mortality of being. To be alive is to be physical, finite, and mortal. It is to be aware of the vulnerability of life and the inevitability of death. Being alive requires a continuous struggle to be and comes with pain, suffering, and anguish as well as moments of joy. How does one celebrate life or mourn the passing of a relative or friend or enter into an intimate relationship with another in a world devoid of feelings and emotions?
New developments in evolutionary biology, cognitive science, and psychology are laying the groundwork for a wholesale reappraisal of human consciousness. The premodern notion that faith and God's grace are the windows to reality and the Enlightenment idea that reason is at the apex of modern consciousness are giving way to a more sophisticated approach to a theory of mind.
Researchers in a diverse range of fields and disciplines are beginning to reprioritize some of the critical features of faith and reason within the context of a broader empathic consciousness. They argue that all of human activity is embodied experience--that is, participation with the other--and that the ability to read and respond to another person "as if " he or she were oneself is the key to how human beings engage the world, create individual identity, develop language, learn to reason, become social, establish cultural narratives, and define reality and existence.
If empathic consciousness flows from embodied experience and is a celebration of life--our own and that of other beings--how do we square it with faith and reason, which are disembodied ways of looking at reality and steeped in the fear of death?
When we deconstruct the notion of faith, we find that at the core are three essential pillars: awe, trust, and transcendence. The religious impulse begins with the sense of awe, the feeling of the wonder of existence, both the mystery and majesty. Awe is the deepest celebration of life. We marvel at the overwhelming nature of existence, and sense that by our own aliveness, we somehow fit into the wonder we behold.
Although faith is set in motion by a feeling of awe and requires a belief that one's life has meaning in a larger, universal sense of things, it can be purloined and made into a social construct that exacts obedience, feeds on fear of death, is disembodied in its approach, and establishes rigid boundaries separating the saved from the damned. Many institutionalized religions do just that.
It is awe that inspires all human imagination. Without awe, we would be without wonder and without wonder we would have no way to exercise imagination and would therefore be unable to imagine another's life "as if" it were our own. We know that empathy is impossible without imagination. Imagination, however, is impossible without wonder, and wonder is impossible without awe. Empathy represents the deepest expression of awe, and understandably is regarded as the most spiritual of human qualities.
But faith also requires trust--the willingness to surrender ourselves to the mystery of existence at both the cosmic level and at the level of everyday life with our fellow beings. Trust becomes indispensable to allowing empathy to grow, and empathy, in turn, allows us to plumb the divine presence that exists in all things. Empathy becomes the window to the divine. It is by empathic extension that we transcend ourselves and begin connecting with the mystery of existence.
In the empathic civilization, spirituality invariably replaces religiosity. Spirituality is a deeply personal journey of discovery in which empathic experience--as a general rule--becomes the guide to making connections, and becomes the means to foster transcendence. The World Values Survey and countless other polls show a generational shift in attitudes toward the divine, with the younger generation in the industrialized nations increasingly turning away from institutionalized religiosity and toward personal spiritual quests that are empathic in nature.
Reason too can be salvaged from its disembodied Enlightenment roots and be recast within an embodied empathic frame. While reason is most often thought of in terms of rationalization, that is, abstracting and classifying phenomena, usually with the help of quantifiable tools of measurement, it is more than that. Reason includes mindfulness, reflection, introspection, contemplation, musing, and pondering, as well as rhetorical and literary ways of thinking. Reason is all of this and more. When we think of reason, we generally think of stepping back from the immediacy of an experience and probing our memories to see if there might be an analogous experience that could help us make the appropriate judgment or decisions about how best to respond.
The critical question is where does reason come from? The Cartesian and Kantian idea that reason exists independently of experience as an a priori phenomenon to be accessed does not conform to the way we reason in the real world. Reason is a way of organizing experience and relies on many mental tools. The point, however, is that reason is never disembodied from experience but rather a means of understanding and managing it.
Experience, as we learned earlier, begins with sensations and feelings that flow from engagement with others. While one's sensations and feelings make possible the initial connection with the other, they are quickly filtered by way of past memories and organized by the various powers of reason at our disposal to establish an appropriate emotional, cognitive, and behavioral response. The entire process is what makes up empathetic consciousness. Empathy is both an affective and cognitive experience.
If empathy did not exist, we could not understand why we feel the way we do, or conceptualize something called an emotion or think rationally. Many scholars have mistakenly associated empathy with just feelings and emotions. If that were all it was, empathic consciousness would be an impossibility.
Reason, then, is the process by which we order the world of feelings in order to create what psychologists call pro-social behavior and sociologists call social intelligence. Empathy is the substance of the process. Reason becomes increasingly sophisticated as societies become more complex, human differentiation more pronounced, and human exchange more diverse. Greater exposure to others increases the volume of feelings that need to be organized. Reason becomes more adept at abstracting and managing the flood of embodied feelings. That's not to say that reason can't also be used to exploit others, for example, to advance narcissistic ends or create terror among people.
By reimagining faith and reason as intimate aspects of empathic consciousness, we create a new historical synthesis--the Age of Empathy--that incorporates many of the most powerful and compelling features of the Age of Faith and the Age of Reason, while leaving behind the disembodied story lines that shake the celebration out of life.



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Show All"... all of human activity is embodied experience--that is, participation with the other--and that the ability to read and respond to another person "as if " he or she were oneself is the key to how human beings engage the world, create individual identity, develop language, learn to reason, become social, establish cultural narratives, and define reality and existence."
Sounds like the very essence of reasonable.
Rifkin writes:
"Both the Abrahamic faiths--Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--as well as the Eastern religions of Buddhism, Hinduism, and Taoism, either disparage bodily existence or deny its importance. So too does modern science and most of the rational philosophers of the Enlightenment. For the former, especially the Abrahamic faiths, the body is fallen and a source of evil. Its presence is a constant reminder of the depravity and mortality of human nature."
Sorry, Mr. Rifkin, but you don't know squat about Islam, and shouldn't be making such sweeping generalizations without considerable study of a religion.
Come again?
"Reason" and "Faith" are such archaic terms, more suitable for books on philosophy and religion written in the eighteenth or nineteenth centuries. Why even bring them into the discussion? If insights from evolutionary biology and cognitive science are relevant to empathy that why not discuss them? "Reason" and "faith" might be useful in understanding the concepts that interested Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and Kant, but now they have outlived their usefulness. Let's frame the discussion with words that connect with modern thinkers.
And those modern words are?
(Besides, Faith and Reason were perfectly suited for this discussion of the author.)
Gary
"The reserve of modern assertions is sometimes pushed to extremes, in which the fear of being contradicted leads the writer to strip himself of almost all sense and meaning."
-- Winston Churchill
I'm a modern thinker and so this article connected. :)
WHENCE SUFFERING?
To read anything of the world is to know that this question is more than a mere scholarly dissertation that would invoke all of the usual reasons and theories that have been out since the beginning of people with any kind of compassion, humanity or just plain selfishness, in the context, of “I get treated the same way”. Logic; now there is a process that no one would ever associate with suffering! But, if you look at it from a rational point of view and throw in a smidgen of self preservation it makes perfect sense to keep all suffering down to none, nada, zilch because what if it happened to me, you, someone close? That would be personal and to our minds and hearts and Souls and that would put suffering right there on our own doorstep and make it a thing physical and mental and emotional and these are all together when there is suffering.
Whence then? When I write this it is not about individuals for there are and have always been individuals that did not fit into this mold and at this time a mold is what it is. A religionist would say that it is deserved because of some transgression committed during their lifetime spent on this planet; this opens up a whole big can of human waste and that is, what it is, for with one hand is the carrot of forgiveness and then the stick is there with suffering and with an afterlife of heaven or hell ; depending on what is your belief; one can see that this is just an existence and not life at all. Here there is no choice by the newbie as to where, when, why, what and who is going to help during the body’s formative years. A crap shoot with loaded dice because there is nothing fair here not by any stretch of the imagination. The God that is professed here has to be imagined because this god would condemn any from one to one hundred and twenty and for whatever infraction, is sent to whatever hell is and only if you were good would you be forgiven. There is no logic here and most of the cause of suffering is here.
Atheism: No rules, just play by ear and as for suffering you come in to “existence”, hang around for as long as you can and get planted, end of story and so the journey is where all that matters is concentrated. What is the stance here as far as suffering goes? There are individuals here that do not “fit” within the pattern expressed here. Is suffering what happens to some and not to all because of luck of the draw where you are born and into what circumstances? If that is so then it is unfair, not logical because there is no choice and where do the rules come in and since there is no belief in any kind of Creator and since there no rule maker then there would have to be science elucidated by a human and that does not give me any confidence at all. Science which is always changing, growing or even going backward. Time is linier, not really, as it is what is perceived by each mind, conscience, or sub-conscience and even a dream; the same particle can and does exist, if perceived, in two places at once. Everyone evolved from a pair or pairs from Southern Africa changing clothes and races as we went along; it sets my mind to reeling. A Creator is not believed in but gets blamed for all human foibles: how can that be.?
Agnostics; Neither hot nor cold, the maybe crowd: where the existence of a creator could depend on what the circumstance they are in; is it beneficial at that particular time to them? An interesting philosophy, creed or whatever but leaves me cold. Know nothing of their views on suffering but would think that it would depend on what is going on at the time.
Creator + Reincarnation; the rule maker and the way to make amends for mistakes made and mostly, I mean mostly against others of our species. With a Creator we are part of and with an ability to “come back” and fix things for the betterment of oneself and others and a choice of where, when, why, who, and how. This is where I sit and is the only thing that, even remotely, has all the earmarks of “having a life “. Free will to make your own heaven or hell which by my definition is what Karma or cause and effect is. Free will is where suffering has an existence on this world and to blame The Creator for any of many ways that people suffer is the biggest copout ever and a major industry for humans all through history. In this instance free will is a “devil”.
That’s all, Tony 2/28/2010
I think this piece is urging us to get over our mantra of me, me, me and mine, mine, mine. If we are indeed empathetic creatures and we really do care about others we can change the world. We have for so long been thinking that we are individuals and we stand alone but with this new understanding of our true nature, we can move forward to creating community and protect all life on earth. Wouldn't it be great to have a strong social movement to consider greed to be a dispicable human trait?
If we value caring and sharing what a wonderful world it can be. Let's take care of one another and all pursue true happiness.
I don't see Rifkin as necessarily pro-religious. What he says is that regardless of religion and even science itself, empathy needs to be included in daily thinking. It is possible to be religious and yet empathetic and rational. I had some mixed thoughts on where he claimed that emotions can interfere with the ability to be empathetic and rational. Being too nice and/or too emotional can lead to wrong judgments but sometimes, being firm and letting your emotions out can lead to better decisions and outcomes. I think that Rifkin had in mind an audience stuck in relying on religion to tell them what to do and that maybe what he wrote might convince people to be empathetic to themselves and each other instead of allowing religion to control their thinking.
>>Reason includes mindfulness, reflection, introspection, contemplation, musing, and pondering, as well as rhetorical and literary ways of thinking. Reason is all of this and more.<<
This brings to mind the weakness of logic, especially modern logic, to relate to human experience. Logic is dry and spare, devote of context. Logic care nothing of truth except in the abstract.
Empathy. on the other hand, sees others as one's own reflection in a slightly distorted mirror. An expansion of the self. A swelling of the soul.
Spirituality is the highest form of consciousness. Combining all the lower aspects of human existence. Raising them to an new and greater level of experience. We are all greater than our mere emotions, reasoning, and reactions. We all have, may I say, a touch of the true divine -- a breath of the greater universe.
Gary
"As the new spirituality begins to become the pervasive spirituality of the planet, we'll find that we have abandoned our philosophy of contradictions in which we say we're all one but continue to try to win."
-- Neale Donald Walsch
Empathy: the most powerful form of knowing.
Some time back in the late 1900's a wonderful book for all time was written by Robert Fulghum. It was/is called ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN. Here is a summary excerpt from this book on a California-based peace website.
I find the below far more profound than what Jeremy Rifkin has to say and just about all of the philosophers he cites. Jeremy sounds more like an egg-head with mind separated from heart. And it really doesn't work that way. Just read the news and look around at the global mess.
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from www.peace.ca/kindergarten.htm
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(a guide for Global Leadership)
All I really need to know about how to live and what to do and how to be I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate school mountain, but there in the sand pile at school.
These are the things I learned:
* Share everything.
* Play fair.
* Don't hit people.
* Put things back where you found them.
* Clean up your own mess.
* Don't take things that aren't yours.
* Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody.
* Wash your hands before you eat.
* Flush.
* Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
* Live a balanced life - learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some.
* Take a nap every afternoon.
* When you go out in the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands and stick together.
* Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the Styrofoam cup: the roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
* Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we.
* And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.
Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and equality and sane living.
Take any one of those items and extrapolate it into sophisticated adult terms and apply it to your family life or your work or government or your world and it holds true and clear and firm. Think what a better world it would be if we all - the whole world - had cookies and milk at about 3 o'clock in the afternoon and then lay down with our blankies for a nap. Or if all governments had as a basic policy to always put things back where they found them and to clean up their own mess.
And it is still true, no matter how old you are, when you go out in the world, it is best to hold hands and stick together.
[Source: "ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN" by Robert Fulghum. See his web site at http://www.robertfulghum.com/]
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The book is still available, I'm sure. Still have my old copy.
Enjoy and live it, cm
BRAINDEAD, physical Empathy, INDEED! By this measure, Bush becomes better with putative (though actually malevolent) "compassion", along with his faithful acolyte, Obama; especially since NOBODY else is doing their best on solutions which really SOLVE our human and environmental problems!! Oops ... let my RAGE show there!!! EMPATHIZE ... Empathize ... empathize ... ah, the Age of EMPATHY.
Could it be as simple as the statement "We are all connected"?
I have spent years finding deep and expansive meaning to that statement. Most of that has come not by thinking but by feeling, by going within.
I feel that there is a basic truth to this article but that much of the discourse and the comments that follow reflect the complexities and confusion when one looks outside oneself.
NearlyNormalWarren: "Could it be as simple as the statement "We are all connected"?
Yes.
cm
"Mitakuye Oyasin" -- Lakota prayer ending, literally "Everything is related"
I like the idea that a non theistic spirituality which widens the circle of our awareness and tries to put us in relationship with the whole, supplants the approach of religion which mediates the totality of being by calling it the creation of a personlike God. Theism for all its claims of transcendence really tames God and creates religion as a method to invoke His powers to fulfill our needs. Spirituality tries to connect to the other through empathetic understanding. That too is limited but at least here both our connectedness and estrangement can be dealt with directly through understanding and not mediated by an imaginary entity-God- who we create in our own image. Why does that matter--because without having God get in the way we can at least try to be honest, and we can then call upon our own powers and get closer to some useful solutions.
Rifkin you are a johnny-come-lately. We have know for 40 years that the human being has perceptual, conceptual and visionary capacities light-years beyond the parameters set by conventional science and conventional religion.
Some of us have long been engaged in trying to create "The Empathic Age", but unfortunately exoteric religion, based on belief without evidence, doesnt want to let go of its power and lots of human egos are outraged by the idea that the conventional human ego is a larval, fetal level of human development.
Not to mention the fact that the ruling elite want childish mental slaves, not Self-Actualizing, Self-Realizing adults who can transcend cultural reality-programming (Psst. That's why psychedelics are illegal).
Yup, we needed to evolve, but now it may be too late, and you Jeremy are breathlessly reporting what is in fact very old news.
Interesting article (whether or not the author is a johnny-come-lately).
Years ago, I happened to overhear a lively discussion about the difference between religion and spirituality. Somebody said that religion is for people who are afraid of going to Hell, and spirituality is for people who have already been there. That definition has stuck with me ever since.
I consider my own belief system to be post-secular spirituality.
1. We inhabit our bodies, we are not our bodies.
2. We were never created, but always were and always will be; we are immortal beings.
3. The mind's eye of our such (our consciousness) never blinks, never closes, never sleeps and never dies. We pass through awake from this world into glassless clarity.
4. Love is the power and infinitely so. Love is the way. There is no other way.
5. There are trillions of universes. There are trillions of clusters of universes. There are trillions of clusters of clusters of universes. Each time I have typed the word "trillions" here, I have barely begun to count.
6. The whole thing is MiND, is: the matter of it all.
7. God or Divine Will Intelligence or That Which Is Intelligence is not a number, not even one. It is not a word, it is not a thought. It aboves all word, beyonds all thought. There is no image in it. Into the Mystery Of Mysteries we cannot go in our thinking, nor will we-souls ever enter therein.
8. Each and every one of us is a center of all of being.
9. The Sea Of Being goes out from us in all directions ... forever.
10. There are uncountable, uncountable, uncountable realms of being for which we are not given words; as in: no thought thinks them.
11. There are trillions, trillions, trillions (I have now been saying this for three hours and barely begun to count) of souls in the Throughout Of Being. I want to see the Important People of this world "stand out" when they have passed through from this life!
12. In October 1981, we entered Humanity's Next Cycle.
13. This world cannot end except by way of starting all over again and that is what is happening here. (The force in the truth of these words is inestimable.)
14. We are in an Ending Which Is A Beginning.
15. There will be peace on this earth, universal and perpetual, up to and including last word ever spoken here.
16. We are entering the Age Of Woman.
17. There was the great out-breath of Creator Intelligence, which began when FIRST THOUGHT of this world came into being. We have entered the in-breath.
18. When we return to the Pleroma, we are going to be taken up the time/history of this universe cocooned in light in a Great Ship Of Souls (we will be in this universe but not of it, of this universe but not in it) all the way back to where the matter of this universe first appeared, through this and on to the approach, across this and into the Beginning. I have seen this Beginning. In such enormity there is no enormity.
19. To murder and get away with it does not have happenability in this world. Who murders once has murdered 10,000 times In Thee EYE. The time is near when all will clearly understand that to murder one person is the same as having murdered every person on this earth. (I want to see the killers of this world escape the wrath of those they have slain ... by never dying.
20. To be "free" to kill in the Here is to be bound in will to kill in the After, and be murdered, and kill, and be murdered, and kill and be murdered, in the nether dark.
21. What is hell? Hell is the absence of light.
22.The way we live our lives engenders the forces that free us or bind us when we pass through from this world.
23. I want to see someone be now closer to now farther away from WORD.
24. All WORD is spoken word. It is every word spoken. The words we speak are food we feed each other. Who speaks poison is poison.
25. No sound leaving human throat speaks Thee Word Of Word in this world.
26. How many "Books" are there in this world? How many millions of people have been murdered from this world by Peoples Of A Book?
27. Not being able to judge, hate and kill is going to destroy the lives of innumerable people if they aren't careful.
28. If you belong to a religion even one member of which has murdered even one person, fear.
29. I see that every worshipper in this world is worshipping them Self By Any Other Name and that this will cease. In death they won't be worshipping.
30. HOLY HORROR OF-THINE ALL SUFFERING WORD POWER, THAT DID ENTER INTO ME AND THAT DID MAKE OF ME NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING IN THIS WORLD. AND THE THING BARELY BEGUN.
END.
Mr. Rifkin needs to get out more. Spinoza trotted out Pantheism a long long time ago. Many noted scientists past and present follow some form of pantheism. And it's not incompatible with Secular Humanism. Both have empathy at their core.
Evidently to Rifkin Spinoza, Pantheism, and Secular Humanism don't even show up on the radar. What a limited viewpoint.
Reason is anything but cold and hard. It is vital and dynamic: the flame of fire is one of the symbols of the Holy Spirit. The other, the dove, is surely evocative of empathy.
The Catholic Church affirms the positive value of the body, albeit, currently, corrupted in its nature. And for quite a long time, it has, I believe, preferred the phrase: What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own self.
This obviates reinforcement of the idea that only the soul is of transcendental value. It is an article of faith that we are resurrected in our bodies, albeit, assuming we are not condemned, a greatly glorified one - similar to that shown by Christ when he appeared to the disciples in the locked upper room. Although that may not be its final stage of glorification.
The key sentence affirming the essential 'goodness' of the body is that in Genesis: God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good. So, Christianity differs in that regard from the entirely transcendental religions, which regard the material world as entirely transient and inconsequential, an obstacle even to enlightenment.
… A few years back, I used to use the term ‘mystical experience’ a lot more often than I do these days. On one particular occasion someone told me that they thought that they too had what I referred to as ‘mystical experiences,’ and then asked if I could describe mine, so that he could compare mine with his own… After I described mine, he then decided that compared to what I just described –he had to conclude that ‘no,’ he had never really had a mystical experience after all… Here’s how I described one of those experiences;
“… This particular experience took place while reading a book, and while I was ‘thinking’ about what it was I was reading. The book was published in the early eighties, by the author Jeremy Rifkin. The book was titled ENTROPY.
Mr. Rifkin correlated the limitations of Newtonian Science with the social Darwinism of present day culture, along with an equally unenlightened energy and fossil fuel economy. I guess he said a lot in his first six pages, or I was ready for what he had to say, because by the time I arrived at page six, of his book, I was full throttle in a place I later came to call ‘mystical experience…’
I eventually isolated one particular paragraph -on page six, I believe- that I decided must have started that whole chain reaction to my new clear explosion. But the experience itself was rather breath taking…
After reading this far into Mr. Rifkin’s book, I recall sitting there thinking to myself, something to the affect;
“Now wait a minute, if this is true, then ‘this’ should lead to ‘that’ and then ‘that’ should lead to ‘this,” -and very much before I knew it, I had arrived at some sort of a conclusion that made me very happy… As a matter of fact, it made me so damn happy that I couldn’t even contain this happiness I was feeling… No, I went beyond ‘feeling’ happiness, I went all the way to ‘experiencing happiness’ in a manner I had never quite experienced before… I sat there radiating a joyous intensity to such a degree, I really thought I could actually explode into happiness… There was absolutely no fear involved… exploding into happiness only seemed to me to bring the possibility of even more of this explosive happiness… And then this happiness became ‘Love.’ Great feelings/experiences of a most intense Love that I could not even describe… Maybe it was there at the same time with the happiness, maybe they were the same thing/experience… I felt Love for myself… I felt Love for the whole experience… I felt Love for Life itself… I felt Love within myself, and all around this magical room… Love was truly in the air, or atmosphere… I felt a Peace, beyond all Peace… But maybe the Peace was simply the Love and the Happiness, and I just gave it another name… I felt/experienced Peace for myself, my experience, and Peace for the whole magical world… If this was Peace, it was not a passive thing, it was an ALIVE thing… It was an empowering thing… Peace was not an absence of conflict –I concluded- Peace is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning, and Ending, Peace is ‘Intense Relativity!’ I felt –or I should say experienced- my body, inside and outside, throbbing in these inundating wavelike pulsations… I experienced my whole being growing larger, and larger, and yet I was still in this room of mine, and it still seemed the same size… I started to get the sensation that the room was beginning to grow larger with me, so I could go ahead and ‘yes,’ grow larger –but the room would grow as well, to keep up with me… When you’re feeling/experiencing ‘this much’ extreme joyousness, and happiness, peace, and love –form follows function- whereby your face becomes a fair duplicate of your experience… In other words, I had this transcendental grin that could melt an iceberg… my smile was growing so large, to match my experience, I was sure that the corners of my mouth were going to meet at the back of my head… There was absolutely no distress, or fear involved… I knew that what it was I was experiencing was an extraordinary experience –but it did not feel in the least like an experience I needed to move away from, by any stretch of the imagination… I sat there almost frozen –or ‘still’ might be a better word- possibly thinking if I shifted positions, it would all come to an end… I recall looking about the room with only my eyes, while keeping my head relatively motionless, and thinking;
“Whhhaaaaooooooo… this is….. sooooo….. Awwww sume……..”
I would like to give a better report as to whether or not I was thinking about all this –or the thinking came later- or if I was simply experiencing it all –without the thinking… But, after experiencing this for perhaps fifteen, twenty, or even thirty minutes, I do remember a thought rising up to my consciousness -in reverent awe- that was almost ‘normal’ compared to the rest of my experience;
“Ohhh my God, I’ve got to write this down…”
… And write it down I did…
… When Jeremy Rifkin elucidates –Lawrence listens… :-)
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"He who is swimming against the stream comes to the source" Gottfried Muller
Cosmic Consciousness ... a Peak Experience ... A gift of Grace ...
Did it change your life? Did you become more than you were in your everyday actions? with all your relations?
Or was it a feel-good, memorable phenomenon for 20 minutes? and something to record on paper?
What did it mean to you? What does it mean now?
just curious, cm
WOW, Lawrencer:
Don't we all wish we could hold onto those moments?
I rest my Peace!
"Both the Abrahamic faiths--Judaism, Christianity, and Islam--as well as the Eastern religions of Buddhism, Hinduism, and Taoism, either disparage bodily existence or deny its importance."
the main drawback to this statement is that it is wrong.
as a matter of fact the whole thing just draws on simplistic stereotypes in oder to scapegoat certain groups or ideas as the cause of all our problems.
"we create a new historical synthesis--the Age of Empathy"
the idea of renewal and a "new age" is a very old idea.
these ideas come under the catagory of "Eschatological duality"
the bible is also full of the same type of Eschatological dualism.
even the nazis thought they were making a "new age".
the whole idea is rather simpleminded.
Susan: give it a break; How much can be said in a short article?
Have you read the book yet? 'Jeremy Rifkin is the author of 'The Empathic Civilization: The Race to Global Consciousness in a World in Crisis,'
I hope to. Take care!
Buddhism does emphasize empathy. The four divine abodes are loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy and equanimity. Buddha taught the transcendence of mind as well as body. Our bodies and minds are waves of energy in the empty void of space. Buddha said that; Einstein said that about matter. All phenomena is interrelated but impermanent. Rifkin may have sensed that things are interrelated but he obviously has not intuitively seen the impermanence of body and mind in mindfulness meditation. I guess Buddha’s no-Self doctrine was just way too subtle for Rifkin’s New Age fuzzy thinking. All levels of body/form and consciousness are to be transcended in Buddhism, not only the dense human body but even the highest samadhi higher consciousness is to be transcended. Baba Ram Das once said that all the levels of consciousness are like different TV channels high and low, but the important thing was to see that they are all an illusion. Rifkin replaces the Eastern Religious/Spiritual meditative search for an Unshakable Infinite Peace with some vague call for an “embodied” empathy. Rifkin is still caught up in the Matrix of illusion. Higher emotion, higher thought, higher concentration and higher intuitive wisdom are all necessary for the attainment of boundless peace and ultimate truth, Nirvana. Neither accepting coarse attachment to the body nor subtle attachment to the mind frees us from rebirth on the wheel of suffering.
Now that Huff Post is commercial, guess they welcome all kinds of alternate reality viewpoints.
Seems the posts right here and now are the most lame and numb on CD.
There is USA the lie:
one nation under ( ) with liberty and jutice for all
Then there is USA the truth:
I've got mine Jack keep your hands off of my stack
and I want a lot more . . .
Someone on another CD thread was busy advocating Hemp; but for Rifkin to be invoking an age of empathy, he must truly be on LSD.
Ah yes, such glimpses of empathy from Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Clinton and Obama. OK, I'll admit, LBJs social programs showed some signs of empathy and he only killed 5,000,000 Vietnamese. Heard the DOD is offering $2,000 compensation for every baby we kill; nothing for adults, though. Ah Ha, some empathy there; or maybe the DOD just has so much money, they have finally become unable to spend it all. And spending it all is so very important or they might cut your budget next year!
We have the Catholic Church which is perhaps the 5th most evil institution in human history. Their ponzi scheme puts Wall Street to shame. Give the church 10% and they guarantee you eternal life in paradise. Never mind their history of torture of anyone who threatened their wealth and power with unorthodox ideas. Hmmm, seems I've heard that one somewhere before. Their adamant support of world overpopulation puts the catholic church solidly with Satan in advocating war, famine, disease, human suffering, and death.
Even if people were able to work for the common good, there
is far too much ignorance irrationality greed corruption and lunacy for anything like a popular democracy to work.
Maybe if people had to take a very serious test to vote; and everything was done with 100% transparency; and no one was able to have wealth above $20,000,000 there could be something like a civilized semi-democracy; but somehow I'm not holding my breath.
So I put my faith in Darwin, who can be summarized: "those who won, won". (It's really that simple!) Can't say I recall empathy winning many conflicts, though!
I'd like to put my faith in the Oath Keepers, even though I'm a screaming liberal. The media is certainly out to marginalize them, so there must be some substance.
Unfortunately, I think most of the rank and file military just like to follow orders and maybe the rest are there for the violence.
With peak everything being a reality so catastrophic that few even let it penetrate their well-fortified minds; the awaited Age of Empathy will be replaced by a massive die-off of the human race and prolonged chaos and suffering and death, magnitudes greater than anything that happend in the Dark Ages.
OK now, so anyone who understands Rifkin; please feel free to take another hit of MJ *and* LSD. Reality is getting a hell of a lot less tolerable by the month--I "empathise" with you.
George Evans
MA
George, What's a matter? Are you afraid you/somebody might give a shit again.
Don't you just wanta kick all them Pot smoking Hippies in the Ass.
Are you wearing military boots. They got hard metal toes? You betcha!
Peace Bro: Got any Peace left there in that Mad as hell left brain of yours?
Next time you smile, try and make it last as you FEEL that boot crush some Teeth!
Wow! MA. You must be smart. Is that pathetic or what? Don't you have confidence your words carry their own authority?
Hi George,
I'm posting near your longitude and latitude... and feel you have an overwhelming sense of futility...
We would all be insane if it were a fact that NOTHING matters, nothing can ever be done to make a difference, however there is a way to have peace of mind no matter what is going on "out there." What matters the most is what is going in "in here" in our own state of mind.
Who knows George, maybe all this bad is about it being darkest before the dawn, so maybe it's all serving a purpose.
Cee Miracles:
"Cosmic Consciousness ... a Peak Experience ... A gift of Grace ..."
... All of the above... and then some...
"Did it change your life?"
... I have referred to this experience -and a few similar ones as well- as something akin to ‘the true measure of all things’ in my life. It is the very touchstone of all that is meaningful in my own life, as well as my own personal interpretation of life itself... Although as an artist I can see the simple beauty and poetry in the simple narratives of our contemporary culture, there is still a nagging impatience with our contemporary culture none-the-less, as I recognize the impediment this contemporary cultural narrative imposes on the very culture it would profess to enhance... Anything which brings me closer to the nearest approximation of this particular experiential experience is a life-enhancing, intuitive gestalt that can only add to the quality of life itself...
... Anything that pulls me further away from this same experiential call can only be viewed as ‘contradictory’ at the very least...
"Did you become more than you were in your everyday actions?"
... Only when I wasn’t ‘thinking ’about it... It is quite predictable that one would spend endless hours in contemplation after experiencing such unconventional experience itself. Too much thinking under such circumstances certainly detracts from one simply ‘experiencing’ such an experience... The more I seemed to become ‘more’... the more I seemed to contemplate more... and the more I seemed to diminish what I seemed to be becoming...
"with all your relations?"
... Hehehe, unfortunately my ‘relations’ were not participating in the same experience themselves... Some thought me eccentric.... some thought me daft... and obviously some thought me mad... Me... I just thought... and thought... and thought... and once in a while ‘experienced’ yet again...
"Or was it a feel-good, memorable phenomenon for 20 minutes? and something to record on paper?"
... Yep, that too...
"What did it mean to you? What does it mean now?"
... Besides being the true measure of all things –that particular ‘experience’ I just recorded- ‘that’ was actually a secondary phenomenon which took place that evening... There was another experience that took place at the same time (or, actually, micro-seconds prior) which was even more profound than that particular ‘mystical experience’ itself...
... If you recall, I made mention of ‘arriving at a certain conclusion that made me very happy’... This ‘conclusion’ manifested itself into a very simple –but sublime- theory, I spent that very night writing about, which I rather enthusiastically titled; “The Theory of Relativity as the Key to the Meaning of Life.” Hehehe, I know, dramatic as hell, but ‘that’ is what triggered that particular experience, and ‘that’ is what I spent the rest of the night writing about –that ‘mystical experience story’ came much, much later –and was almost an afterthought...
... By the way, I have since titled my little theory “The Scientific Theory of A.D.A.M. and E.V.E.”... My sense of humor has equally evolved along with my new-found experiences... :-)
"just curious, cm"
... Thanks fer askin’...
... and I owe it all to Jeremy Rifkin...
Peterpeacenik:
"WOW, Lawrencer:
Don't we all wish we could hold onto those moments?
I rest my Peace!"
… It may be enough just to know that ‘true north’ is more than simple mythology… I can say with all honesty that my own subjective, intuitive, creative, artistic, inner-directed convictions are as solid as a metaphorical rock... True North cannot be dislodged from this consciousness... And empathy is practically a twenty first century religion to me... :-)
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"He who is swimming against the stream comes to the source"
Gottfried Muller
Thanks again Lawencer:
If you have time could you better explain -
"… It may be enough just to know that ‘true north’ is more than simple mythology… I can say with all honesty that my own subjective, intuitive, creative, artistic, inner-directed convictions are as solid as a metaphorical rock... True North cannot be dislodged from this consciousness... And empathy is practically a twenty first century religion to me... :-"
True North is just a angle on a Map that nearly corresponded to magnetic north.
Because the Earth elliptic climbs nearly 24 degrees above/below relative to the sun's equator. We thereby get 24 hour sunshine and 24 hour darkness.
Lawrencher- Your Posts are the best.
I do agree that Rifkin makes a to general all inclusive statement about all religions, although I would say that part of Rifkins brush paints Islam to.
As Muslims do believe in a Heaven and Hell outside of this Physical world.
Recently I read 'Jill Bolti Taylor book Stroke of Insight'. She literally had a brain spliting stroke that completely severed her left brain functions from her right brain function.
She is a Harvard Brain Scientist. She experienced Peace, Joy, Awe, Love and Nirvanic Enlightenment. She luckily recovered to teach about it.
Through out all the below academic, dialectic Left brain criticisms put forth by very many intelligent people herein; I think your perspectives would be greatly broadened by reading her book.
"Because its all in the Mind you know." Your life energy is controlled/influenced by a myriad conglomerate of brain cells divided into trillions of neurons connecting your thoughts.
If the Left side of your brain is Off Line you may not perceive Color or dimension.
So if you can reach into that Mind Chatter and see if you can't get some control of which part of your Brain is the Boss. I am trying and of course have a way to go.
Ms. Taylor says ask yourself 'Would you rather be Happy or Right.
I'd say lots of the Folks on this forum would pick 'Right'.
Once again you will be under the control of the 'Right Wing instead of the Right Wing of your Brain.'
Yes PunFunaFul intended.
Religion is backwards and primitive, and it appeals to people who have nothing else to fall back on.
For a critique of RIfkin's new book see, www.zcommunications.org/jeremy-rifkin
“Researchers in a diverse range of fields and disciplines are beginning to reprioritize some of the critical features of faith and reason within the context of a broader empathic consciousness. They argue that all of human activity is embodied experience--that is, participation with the other--and that the ability to read and respond to another person "as if " he or she were oneself is the key to how human beings engage the world, create individual identity, develop language, learn to reason, become social, establish cultural narratives, and define reality and existence.”
NEW STUFF !?! Mr Rifkin may want to take time out to read the Gospel of Thomas (the twin) whole placing himself in the shoes of ... ... Thomas.
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“When we deconstruct the notion of faith, we find that at the core are three essential pillars: awe, trust, and transcendence.”
SORRY ! “Faith” is an authoritarian construct designed, for example, to make ideological interpretations of religious stories sound right and good. “TRUST” has absolutely no function in authoritarian systems. One either believes (has “faith”) or else one is dead meat.
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“But faith also requires trust -”
As noted above, FAITH and TRUST reside on opposite sides of the ledger.
Rifkin’s argument at this point is nonsense. Empathy has nothing to so with “having faith” of any kind. I will let him go look (hint) for what is really needed.
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1. This is an interesting article by Rifkin.
2. But for some reason it makes me want to turn to the 1938 work by Stuart Chase called "The Tyranny of Words".
3. And I am more impressed by that recent, amazing video on YouTube that shows one dog, working its poor heart out, using its teeth to drag from a multi-lane highway another dog badly injured from being struck by a car. Have you seen that short clip?
Overall this is a good article seeking to break down the false dichotomy between mind and soul on the one hand vs the body on the other to show all this compartmentalization of all this simply engages in a false separation which leads to less empathy. It is also the product of hierarchies and hierarchal thinking which always creates these divisions and perpetuates them. Hierarchies aren't interested in empathy and are hostile to equality. They seek to perpetuate systems which put a few power elites at the top and leave the rest below thees elites which has nothing to do with empathy. Empathy is a natural part of the human condition and has been for nine tenths of its existence until the rise of hierarchies. Without hierarchies, people have always had empathy for each other and lived in collectivist, caring and sharing societies. After Hierarchies came into being maybe 100000 years ago a few took power over others, and their main concern of those with power was with maintain tht power not empathy. Empathy goes along with an egalitarian society and frame of mind which hierarchies had no use for. For at least 90000 to 190000 years people had egalitarian societies which were empathetic. We have to try to get that back by discarding all this compartmentalization of our lives and discarding of basic human values which hierarchies have brought us.
AD
Right on AD,
And our government seems very keen on building a top-down lock-down hierarchy. It has probably been a goal for a long long time, and that creepy pyramid symbol on the dollar bill I feel says it all.
Overall this is a good article seeking to break down the false dichotomy between mind and soul on the one hand vs the body on the other to show all this compartmentalization of all this simply engages in a false separation which leads to less empathy. It is also the product of hierarchies and hierarchal thinking which always creates these divisions and perpetuates them. Hierarchies aren't interested in empathy and are hostile to equality. They seek to perpetuate systems which put a few power elites at the top and leave the rest below thees elites which has nothing to do with empathy. Empathy is a natural part of the human condition and has been for nine tenths of its existence until the rise of hierarchies. Without hierarchies, people have always had empathy for each other and lived in collectivist, caring and sharing societies. After Hierarchies came into being maybe 100000 years ago a few took power over others, and their main concern of those with power was with maintain tht power not empathy. Empathy goes along with an egalitarian society and frame of mind which hierarchies had no use for. For at least 90000 to 190000 years people had egalitarian societies which were empathetic. We have to try to get that back by discarding all this compartmentalization of our lives and discarding of basic human values which hierarchies have brought us. We have today as Marshall McLuhan would refer to it, "a hardening of the categories" and this impedes the development of an egalitarian society.
This is a Marxist analysis, See the link below,
Engels and the Origins of Women's Oppression - International ...
http://www.isreview.org/issues/02/engles_family.shtml -
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