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US Military 'Overwhelmed' by Mental Health Problems of Soldiers
Thousands Strain Fort Hood's Mental Health System
FORT HOOD, Texas - Nine months after an Army psychiatrist was charged with fatally shooting 13 soldiers and wounding 30, the nation's largest Army post can measure the toll of war in the more than 10,000 mental health evaluations, referrals or therapy sessions held every month.
Col. Steven Braverman, head of the Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center, says mental health counselors' schedules are filled. "We are full to the brim," he says. (Erich Schlegel for USA TODAY About every fourth soldier here, where 48,000
troops and their families are based, has been in counseling during the
past year, according to the service's medical statistics. And the number
of soldiers seeking help for combat stress, substance abuse, broken
marriages or other emotional problems keeps increasing.
A common refrain by the Army's vice chief of staff, Gen. Peter Chiarelli, is that far more soldiers suffer mental health issues than the Army anticipated. Nowhere is this more evident than at Fort Hood, where emotional problems among the soldiers threaten to overwhelm the system in place to help them.
Counselors are booked. The 12-bed inpatient psychiatric ward is full more often than not. Overflow patient-soldiers are sent to private local clinics that stay open for 10 hours a day, six days a week to meet the demand.
"We are full to the brim," says Col. Steve Braverman, commander of the Carl R. Darnall Army Medical Center on the post.
That doesn't even count those soldiers reluctant to seek care because they are ashamed to admit they need help or the hundreds who find therapy outside the Army medical system, Braverman and other medical officials say.
Officials worry the problems may worsen - for the military and the country.
"If Fort Hood is representative of the Army - and 10% of the Army is assigned to Fort Hood - then if you follow the logic, our numbers should be scalable to any other post in the country," says acting base commander Maj. Gen. William Grimsley.
"I worry that if we don't see this through the right way over the long haul ... we're going to grow a generation of people 10 or 15 years from now who are going to be a burden on our own society," he says. "And that's not a good thing for the Army. That's not a good thing for the United States."
Statistics provided to USA TODAY by Fort Hood commanders show the explosion of mental health issues here:
- Fort Hood counselors meet with more than 4,000 mental health patients a month.
- Last year, 2,445 soldiers were diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), up from 310 in 2004.
- Every month, an average of 585 soldiers are sent to nearby private clinics contracted through the Pentagon's TRICARE health system because Army counselors cannot handle more patients. That is up from 15 per month in 2004.
- Hundreds more see therapists "off the network" because they want their psychological problems kept secret from the Army. A free clinic in Killeen offering total discretion treated 2,000 soldiers or family members this year, many of them officers.
- Last year, 6,000 soldiers here were on anti-depressant medications and an additional 1,400 received anti-psychotic drugs.
"I don't think we fully understand the total effect of nine years of continuous conflict on a force this size," Chiarelli says, reacting to those statistics.
"Those numbers are pretty staggering," says Kathy Beasley, a health care executive with the Military Officers Association of America. She wonders what will happen when those soldiers leave the military. "Do we have the supply and the people in our systems to take care of that?"
Every time more counselors are hired here, their schedules immediately fill up with patients. "It's almost like a Field of Dreams," Braverman says, referring to the famous line from the 1989 film about a baseball field on an Iowa farm that spontaneously draws crowds. "If you build it, they will come."
'Life can slowly slip away'
Staff Sgt. Josh Rivera came back from his third tour in Iraq this year eager to save his marriage.
"When a soldier is constantly gone and actually fighting, not just deploying and sitting in an office, life can slowly slip away," says Rivera, 32, a native of the Bronx, N.Y.
Thirty-nine cumulative months of war had left him distant from his family and confused about his role in their lives, Rivera says. All that made sense was the infantry, which he loves. Rivera resisted seeing a counselor until his marriage was in real trouble, he says.
The Army therapist who met with Rivera and his wife, Julie, gently guided them back to basics - what brought them together 10 years before, why each mattered to the other and what they wanted out of life, the couple say.
Chaplains provide marriage counseling, but for soldiers who want to see a licensed marriage counselor, the base's social work department has two, each with a caseload of 60 couples, says Lt. Col. Nancy Ruffin, department director.
She has to refer some troubled marriages to private clinics, and not all the soldiers are willing to do that, Ruffin says.
The demand for other types of counseling also far exceeds supply. There are not enough social workers to treat soldiers suffering the emotional effect of sexual assault. Ruffin says she has one social worker, who is handling 50 cases.
Fort Hood has an intensive, three-week therapy program, followed by eight weeks of group therapy, for soldiers suffering stress-related issues, including post-traumatic stress disorder. It has a waiting list of 80 soldiers.
The child and adolescent psychiatric services at Fort Hood handle more than 1,000 visits, assessments or counseling sessions with military children each month, up from about 800 in 2004. It refers about 30 overflow cases off base each month, up from zero in 2004, the base statistics show.
Fort Hood has one of the most robust mental health programs in the Army. It has 171 behavioral health providers and 28 new hires are on the way, says Lt. Col. B. Kirk Phillips, a psychiatrist and director of mental health care at the Darnall medical center. This is up from about 50 mental health workers in 2004.
Because of war and deployments, not only are there more soldiers suffering emotional problems, they are sicker than ever and require more counseling sessions, Phillips says. Even after the latest round of hiring, Phillips says, a recent internal analysis showed the mental health staff will need an additional 58 counselors to meet the demand.
Suicides outpacing 2009
Despite the increase in mental health resources, there have been 14 confirmed or suspected suicides among Fort Hood soldiers this year. That figure outpaces 2009 and matched each of the three worst years for suicides in recent base history, 2006-2008. In June, the Army recorded 32 suicides overall, the highest monthly total since it began keeping records.
Army Sgt. Douglas Hale Jr., 26, was one of the most recent Fort Hood suicides.
On July, 6, Glenda Moss received this text message from Hale, her son: "i love u mom im so sorry i hope u and the family and god can forgive me."
Her son had tried to kill himself in May. She feared he might try again. She immediately called the Army and then drove the 90 minutes from her home in King, Texas, to the base.
It was too late. Hale had walked into a restaurant across Highway 190 from Fort Hood, asked to use the bathroom, locked the door and shot himself in the head with a newly purchased handgun, according to a police report. He was removed from life support a few days later.
Moss knew her son was very troubled. When his second combat tour to Iraq ended in 2007 after 15 months, he was diagnosed with PTSD and severe depression, began drinking heavily, saw his marriage disintegrate and, finally, left the base without permission last year.
He was brought back to Fort Hood in May after being taken into custody by police in King for being absent without leave, his mother said. He attempted suicide in his barracks that month.
The Army sent him to a psychiatric hospital in Denton, Texas. Army doctors told him "we don't have enough people here (at Fort Hood) to help you," his mother recalls.
A statement released by Fort Hood in response to questions about Hale's case says, "Space and staff shortages prevent us from treating all our patients on post. While it is our intent to treat patients within our facilities, the reality is we cannot at the present time."
Base officials declined to discuss the specifics of Hale's case while an Army investigation continues.
Moss says her son seemed to be in good spirits after leaving the Denton hospital following a month of treatment in June. He spent the July 4th weekend at his mother's home before she drove him back to Fort Hood on July 5.
Moss says the Army can do more to watch over troubled soldiers like her son. "They need to do as much as they can to stop this, because if they don't, the Army's going to be responsible for a lot more (suicides)," she says. "I don't want another family to have to deal with what I went through.
'Stigma was still a problem'
After the mass killings in November, Fort Hood launched a campaign to gauge the psychological health in the community. The goal was to see how many people needed help, whether they were getting it and how many counselors were needed. Part of the effort was an online, confidential survey in February to get soldiers' views. Troops were offered incentives such as a day off from work to participate. More than 5,000 responded.
One in four said they would be viewed as weak, treated differently or harm their careers if they admitted suffering emotional issues, says Col. William Rabena, who led the campaign. The attitude was particularly strong among majors, lieutenant colonels and full colonels.
"Stigma was still a problem," Rabena says.
For those soldiers afraid to seek help, who decline to go to Army therapists or private clinics that contract with the military, there are alternatives.
A Pentagon program offers soldiers a limited number of counseling sessions with private therapists that will remain off their medical records. The program is called Military OneSource, and it provides up to 12 free and confidential therapy sessions when soldiers call a toll-free hotline. From May 2009 to May 2010, there was a 72% increase in sessions provided by the program in the Fort Hood area, from 822 to 1,412, says Air Force Maj. April Cunningham, a Pentagon spokeswoman.
Another option for Fort Hood soldiers who want to keep their psychological problems secret from the Army is a free clinic in Killeen called Scott & White Military Homefront Services. The therapy provided at this clinic does not show up as a mental health diagnosis on a soldier's medical record.
The five therapists at the project are booked solid, says the director, Maxine Trent, a psychotherapist and the wife of a retired Navy SEAL.
The clinic has seen 7,117 soldiers, spouses and their children since it opened in 2008, says Matthew Wright, a director with Scott & White Healthcare of Temple, Texas, which operates the project.
Soldiers, many of them officers, come into the clinic seeking therapy for the first time in their careers, Trent says.
"Generally, you have the parade rest," she says, demonstrating how they sit with backs straight, arms outstretched and palms on knees. The tension in their bodies, she says, is palpable.
"Those who have been back-to-back deployed vibrate. ... There's different energy. There's hyper-vigilance that you won't see anywhere else," Trent says. "They walk in here not sleeping. They walk in here having mood disruptions, angry driving, explosions at wife and/or husband and kids."
When her offices opened, Trent canvassed the wives of Fort Hood commanders to get a sense of what she was facing. "They told us basically, 'We know everything we need to know about deployment. Please don't set up any programs to teach us about deployment,' " Trent recalls. " 'What we don't know how to do is to keep doing it (deployments). We're tired. We're exhausted.' "
Even this program struggles to cope with all those needing help and getting the money to pay for it.
A $750,000 grant from the Dallas Foundation and the Association of the U.S. Army for the project is nearly gone and officials are trying to secure more funding, Wright says.
Adam Borah, who runs the outpatient psychiatric clinic at Fort Hood, sees progress in the many soldiers stepping forward to seek help. "The bad news is that there are a lot of people out there who need behavioral heath care," he says.
Braverman worries that if the number of patients keeps climbing, soldiers will give up waiting to see someone and avoid seeking help. Private clinics that contract with the military to handle overflow patients are overworked, says Chuck Lauer, a senior administrator at Darnall Hospital. "These guys (local private therapists) are putting in six days a week. Some of them have their practices open 10 hours a day," Lauer says.
Staff Sgt. Rivera, who got the marital help, worries for the soldiers. "The military needs to know that they are losing very good soldiers and squads and platoons to multiple deployments," he says. "The amount of help needed is actually overwhelming."



106 Comments so far
Show AllThe level of mental health problems among returning veterans is really terrible, and will be an issue for our society for years.
One can assume that the level of mental health problems among civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan (and Palestine, and Colombia, etc etc) is even more profound. I'd like to know how/if the governments we as US taxpayers have installed are working on this problem.
Hello Actually,
You are, of course, completely right. American soldiers can at least come home, eventually. But the Iraqis and Afghanis have to stay in the war zone, and their levels of PTSD and other forms of insanity just keep growing. Which is why the idea of war and invasion to create democracy is itself insane. Distrust, hypervigilance, rigid thinking and personal aggression will never create a democratic society. In the war of all against all that is created by a PTSD society you either get chaos or dictatorship or both.
Until our vets are correctly treated for thyroid problems, known to be triggered by stress and trauma, as well as adrenal problems they will continue to suffer. They aren't the only ones as the rest of the population is being under treated, not treated also. This is known to cause almost ALL mental and physical problems and big pharma is making their millions not allowing this information out.
Until our vets are correctly treated for thyroid problems, known to be triggered by stress and trauma, as well as adrenal problems they will continue to suffer. They aren't the only ones as the rest of the population is being under treated, not treated also. This is known to cause almost ALL mental and physical problems and big pharma is making their billions not allowing this information out.
Wars of aggression take their toll not only in the country undergoing the aggression, but in the country performing it.
These wars are slowly eroding this country. Another reason -- aside from the fact that they are illegal and immoral -- why they must be stopped.
Sadly true. Our newspaper last Friday had a 3-inch story on an inside page of a soldier in Wisconsin who shot his pregnant wife, his 13-month old child, his three dogs and finally himself. The paper indicated that no one knew why he had done this.
"The paper indicated that no one knew why he had done this." -- Silverbird
Shameful and tragic! There are far too many similar stories taking place across this country each and every day.
bullshit! Everybody knows.
OIKOS: Thank you for articulating the higher truth with succinctness and clarity.
Here is a news flash for the military and the government. If they are really concerned for the welfare of those soldiers who return to this country mentally and physically impaired because the Afghans have had the temerity to defend their country from the United States, then they would not place them in that most tenuous position in the first place. But it becomes [no pun intended] painfully obvious that the military and the Obama administration's lamentation regarding the condition of the soldiers are just crocodile tears whose sound and fury end up signifying nothing.
"If they are really concerned..."
Guess what, Erroll? They aren't.
Washington, Wall Street and The Chamber are absolutely fine with destroying lives in order to establish another beach head for the Empire to sell their trinkets and BS.
They don't have to worry, they live in gated communities, above the fray, and most importantly, they and their family members don't have to be exposed to the carnage--only to the profits.
"But it becomes painfully obvious that the military and the Obama administration's lamentation regarding the condition of the soldiers are just crocodile tears whose sound and fury end up signifying nothing." –(Erroll)
–This is true. Nothing but a cynicism spun from cloth of whole evil.
But the larger point is that succumbing to sentimentality about the fate's of these soldiers, however honest and not cynical, tends to exculpate the fascist emissary by seeing him as a victim, which is only partially true.
VasharKim
I do not disagree with what you said as I also noted in another article today in Common Dreams ["There Are No Heroes..." Robert Jensen]that those who have WILLINGLY enlisted in the military, as opposed to those who were drafted by the military some forty odd years ago, have become the enablers and especially the perpetrators of American imperialism.
Erroll,
We are sorry we even suggested that we disagree with you.
Furthermore, we wholeheartedly agree with your position in the Jensen piece.
As always, we find your post's must reads.
Big Pharma must be happy as a pig in shit. These broken souls will be lifelong customers, hooked on Xanax and SSRIs and neuroleptics.
And psychiatric diagnoses are so bogus that the military got rid of much of the problem by claiming that these traumatized soldiers suffered from a "pre-existing condition," until they got called out. Not that it helped anyone deemed thus before the practice was change.
http://www.scarsandstripes.com/2010/08/15/adverse-reaction-to-war-a-pre-existing-condition/
Big pharma is busy inventing new drugs to dispense to the ever growing flood of mentally damaged soldiers returning from Ir-Af-Pak. Obamacare assures that the government will not be able to negotiate the price of the drugs. We better cut social security and medicare real soon so we can use the taxpayers' money to pay for all the new drugs.
How about the people in Iraq and Afghanistan and all the other places we either invade or provide he weapons to continue the killing.
All these people willingly signed up to kill people for a job, they need to stand up and take the consequences of their own actions.
"All these people willingly signed up to kill people for a job"
I gather you have never actually spoken to anyone in the US military.
I'm sure many members of the military suffer from the same terminal denial syndrome that many of the Democratic Party's supporters suffer from.
What difference would that make? I'd listen to their horsesh*t then tell them to get a real job.
Let's see what the Big Guns have to say in the military.
Here is an excerpt from one of U.S. Major Ralph Peters's papers:
"There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive. The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. TO THOSE ENDS, WE WILL DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF KILLING." [my capitals]
cited from: "Constant Conflict," published in "Parameters" (Summer 1997), pp. 4-14.
The article can be found at:
http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usawc/
Parameters/97summer/peters.htm.
Major Ralph Peters was member of the Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, and is the author of such novels as "Twilight of Heroes."
OIKOS: The "new guy" Mattis recently went on record stating the JOYS of killing. In any normal society, he'd be locked up for exposing himself as the serial killer that he is.
hmmmmm welll let me see, oh yes i have, you can dress it up any way you want. The militaries primary purpose is to kill people.
Most ive met were sadistic jingoistic thugs who revel in the death and pain of their so called enemies. Many were pissed they had joined up and were fooled into it, counting down the days on a calender till they could get out.
I remember watching a bunch of airforce medics showing a video of Iraqi's being fired at by an attack helicopter, how they all laughed to see them being mowed down............what fun.
It's true that American soldiers are aggressors in imperial wars, and they are responsible for their actions, but many of them are young and naive, their impressionable minds filled with propaganda about Good Guys and Bad Guys. They, too, are victims of the monsters who rule our nation, and they also deserve compassion. The soldiers discussed in this article, the ones who aren't sufficiently monstrous to slaughter others without wounding their own souls in the process, are suffering deeply.
The young man who sent his mother a text message saying "i love u mom im so sorry i hope u and the family and god can forgive me" was tragically brutalized by our society. We need to mourn his loss and grieve for the pain his family must now endure. Compassion is the only path that can lead us out of the moral darkness we see spreading over our nation and the world.
thank you for humanising the young victims
Humans have killed humans for millennia, and wars have damaged all sides...but we don't learn the lesson. We don't learn that rich men and women will always find a way to send poorer men and women to fight their battles, for their resources, power and profits. Until the poor stop doing the killing for the rich, we will continue to have wars.
That's a red herring - there were wars aplenty when the 'rich' thought it gallant and courageous to lead the charge. Things changed a lot with the US, where money is equated with 'exceptionalism' and the worst psychopathic scum rises to the top. America's 'elite' once sent their own sons into battle - and plenty were lost. This is a new age, with a new military paradigm (borrowed from the Nazis and Imperial Japan) but the reasons for the wars remain the same - empire. With the 'all volunteer' military based on the economic draft, the wealthier families have wised up. The military is no longer an 'honorable' profession - it's blatant gangsterism - as is 'our' government and its corporate sponsors. (Isn't that what the Boston Tea Party and WWII were all about stopping?)
Anyone from the Vietnam era who didn't see this coming - right from the start - please raise your hand so we can get YOU some mental health treatment (you certainly need it).
When you volunteer to be a contract killer, you should expect the consequences, so don't try making me feel sorry for you now. I feel sorry for the 2 million people that you helped murder in Iraq and Afghanistan.
My advice? Go get a job that doesn't involve mass-murder, rape, torture and theft of other people's natural resources, you'll stop attracting bad things into your life.
Get a job? Get real. Tell that to some poor kid flipping burgers - and compare the glitzy wall-to-wall military propaganda to your cold advice. The problem is with our failed dysfunctional society - not its indoctrinated children. (And that includes anyone under 40.)
If you're dumb enough to fall for the glitzy wall-to-wall military propaganda then you deserve what you get. Remember, once you join the Mafia, you're in their hands forever.
I'd flip a burger to the day I die but not be a contract killer for Washington.
Yeah, well good for you for being so smart. These kids have been fed nothing but propoganda all their lives. They have no idea what they will do once they get out of high school--there are no jobs, college tuition is outrageous--and then their high school invites the recruiters in with a resounding endorsement. They don't have to flip burgers! They can be heroes on an adventure and help liberate people from tyrrany and learn a trade that's just like playing a video game and get money for college and be taken care of all their lives!
Don't blame the kids. Blame the adults that misinformed them or allowed them to be misinformed.
You get it - others don't, unfortunately. Forewarned is forearmed. It's not just the kids that have been force-fed all that propaganda - their parents were also brainwashed (by experts).
"Don't blame the kids. Blame the adults that misinformed them or allowed them to be misinformed."
–(Elizabeth H)
Specious drivel, nothing more than circular reasoning and 'chicken or the egg' thinking amounting to nothing.
The conundrum of affixing ultimate 'blame,' societal or situational, private or collective will never be resolved, and is really of no interest whatsoever. "Blame the adults?" "Blame the kids?" Who cares? The only thing of importance is the destruction of American fascism, not ontologically speculating as to the reasons it exists, in order to exculpate it through the 'back door.'
All that results in is sentimentality and a thinly masked apologetic based on rationalizing away evil acts by making it contingent. It matters little if at all if the American soldier has been 'brain washed' through a nefarious propaganda, only that he acts of and through the fascist imperative, making him an emissary of fascism.
It is not a question of "being so smart." I think that Delia Darrow gets the nod here in this contretemps. The American soldier is constitutive of fascism, an incarnation of it, not something apart from it, and should be treated accordingly.
These 'kids' and these 'adults' are cut from whole cloth of the American fascist continuum. The ultimate point being is that neither can be exculpated, for whatever reason.
"Americans are killers."
–(D.H. Lawrence, "Studies in Classic American Literature?")
Excuses, excuses! Well, at some point there are no excuses. Our two cents says that America and the American soldier have run out of excuses. On wonders what the Israeli variant of this is? Nothing like a rhetorical question!
One either supports fascism or one does not. Drawing 'fine' lines of distinction motivated by sentimentality does not cut it.
–Kim & Vashkar.
While I think that Elizabeth H.'s admonition "Don't blame the kids" fails to acknowledge young soldiers' responsibility for their choices, her plea that we look more deeply to see the suffering that many of the young soldiers have to endure shows both wisdom and compassion.
In contrast, your commentary displays a venomous contempt for those whose worldview differs from yours, a sense of infallibility, a condescending dismissal of compassion as mere sentimentality, and an unyielding rejection of all sympathy for your enemy, all of which are characteristic of the fascist mindset you claim to abhor.
Opposing wars and injustice does not preclude having sympathy for all who suffer from those afflictions of human society. But your attitude echoes George W. Bush's "You're either with us or against us" so closely that I don't expect you to be persuaded by my response.
"...that I don't expect you to be persuaded by my response." –(John Mitchell)
–You are correct. We are decidedly not persuaded. But having said that, your points are all well taken and measured. It is not without irony, that we are moved by them– and although incapable of apology or contrition– we regret that it is this way, and for us, must be this way.
There is an intractable disagreement here that cannot reconciled , no more no less. No big deal. Americans seemingly have an endless 'patience' in these matters as they have not been victimized by them to know better. We no longer have this patience. We are envious of you that you can be so lucky.
"The path of total police control over all human activities and the path of unlimited free creation are one...We are necessarily on the same path as our enemies–most often preceding them–but we must be there without any confusion, as enemies. The best will win."
–Situationist International, from "Now, The S.I."
Thank you for your honest response.
You mentioned patience. Actually, I've run out of patience in these matters. Most people I know, many of them highly educated professionals who are kind and considerate in their day-to-day lives, seem to be willing to excuse the wars and injustices committed by our (U.S.) government simply because our president is someone they believe is on their side. I tried to persuade them to at least stop voting for politicians who openly embrace corporate imperialism, but I failed. It's like living in a bad zombie movie. So now I just watch and wait.
Thanks, John. I appreciate both your criticism and support. But then, who gives a f about me: I'm just someone giving my opinion. I'm not living these choices.
Muhammad Ali was just a kid when he refused to go to Vietnam, and he didn't have the internet as tool. So I don't buy your "kids" excuse. It's just that, an excuse.
BUT, he had access to progressive minds. He was a celebrity boxer. Pat Tillman had the same access, but he chose the wrong people to listen to. Comparing Ali to the average kid in the US is like comparing apples to oranges.
You just made the comparison yourself, both Ali and Tillman had access to information and made different choices. So it's not a matter of access to the information, it's a matter of being a principled citizen.
I'm quite sure that those advising Ali (he was a black man and the civil rights movement was very influential at the time) had a much different agenda than the NFL who was probably running Army recruiting ads on TV at the time (I cannot say for sure, as I was not watching TV at the time, nor was I in the USA).
As a poor kid from Mississippi in 1974, I volunteered for the military (spent four years active duty). Not one person in "my universe" had ever bad-mouthed the Vietnam War, but everyone told me I was doing the right thing, especially all of the WWII vets I knew. Then I went out into the world and became less ignorant about many things. Now, I am totally a pacifist, a tree-hugging anarchist, a renaissance redneck. Maybe I made the wrong decision in 1974, but since then, I have lived and worked on every continent except Antarctica. I try to spread my beliefs in peace, truthfulness and honesty. I try not to condemn anyone, but to look at things objectively. I strive to be a "perfect human being" but, I often fail.
I guess what I am trying to say is do not condemn every person in the military until you "walk a mile in their shoes".
I like the way you describe yourself and can understand a mistake made back in the 70s, especially in a place like Mississippi. But 40 years later I can't accept the same mistake still being made by people volunteering when they're surrounded by so much information, no WMDs, veterans being denied their rights and benefits, madness, homelessness, death, suicide.
I can't accept Tillman's, or Casey Sheehan's. Each case has its own circumstances and excuses, of course, but truth is, when you join the Mafia, you're completely and hopelessly at their mercy.
Your comments here make you appear to be a very close-minded person. I used to think all poor people were poor by choice, then I lived in the slums of America and in parts of Africa. It gave me a new perspective on being poor. And, by USA standards, I grew up poor, living on a small farm with a garden and milk cow and chickens and wildlife for food.
And to condemn Mississippi - when I went to basic training in 1974, most of the recruits were not from the south, so I do not understand when you say "especially in a place like Mississippi". My high school graduating class in 1974 had 101 people - 51 blacks, 50 whites and never any racial problems. No one in my family was ever in the Klan. Reminds me of a front page story on a Washington, DC newspaper in 1975 just before the Naval Oceanographic Office relocated to Mississippi. The story - ON THE FRONT PAGE - was about a Klan rally somewhere in Alabama, 150 miles from the proposed relocation site. A few weeks later, buried on page 4 of section C was a story about a Klan rally in Laurel, Maryland. Some good journalism there. IGNORANCE is everywhere and is no more common in Mississippi than in the great NYC where patriotic Americans no longer believe in the Bill of Rights.
You're an idiot, who was condemning Mississippi?
You want to deny that the majority of American racists still live in the South? It's a historical fact, wake up. The South preferred to fight a war, where hundreds of thousands were killed, rather than free the slaves.
Look at the kind of scum the South still votes for.
By the way have you watched Mississippi Burning? If that's too intelligent for you, try Gone With The Wind.
OK, I am an idiot. And, I have not seen the movies you refer to, I guess I should go to Hollywood to get my history and FACTS.
Many individual accounts can be cited. A few years ago, there was a story about a teenager from Chicago whose family chose to move to Mississippi. BTW, they were African-Americans. Two years after the move, the young daughter told the story of how she had begged her parents not to move to "racist Mississippi" but later, she was very happy, because she found Mississippi to be a much better place to live than Chicago.
Recently, in Guangzhou China, I was sitting in a crowded bar. A group of foreigners came in, all white except for one African-American. I learned later, that they were all here teaching English. As the group was trying to gather some chairs to sit down, I made a space on the bench I was sitting for the Af-Am to sit down, as the group I was with was in the same vicinity. When the guy sat down and I introduced myself, the first thing he said was (he recognized my accent), "I knew you were from the South, because you were friendly and offered me a place to sit." He was from Illinois, but had relatives in Mississippi and had visited there a few times. We drank a few beers and talked about many things.
So, yes, I am a racist idiot, I admit it. I have worked in many places in America, especially in the northern areas - mostly all segregated areas, because in the north, blacks are only allowed to live in the big cities, IMHO. Mississippi has many problems and many racists, but no more than any other place I have been to.
If you lived in Mississippi, I am sure you would hate it, because of your pre-conceived notions. Hollywood is the place for you, maybe. Lots of real people there who never "act" in an unrealistic way. Movies are always so factual (sarcasm, if you don't get it).
As I stated before, your comments make you appear to be a very close-minded. I guess if everyone in the world was like you, we would be living in the Garden of Eden...I don't know, you could be right.
BTW, I know all about the Civil Rights in Mississippi - Neshoba County, Emmit Till, etc. It was horrible that no one was ever punished for those crimes. But, look at NYC - where white cops can shoot an unarmed black man - and not get punished. Rodney King, hmmmm...can't we all just get along?
And you don't condemn Mississippi? So what did you mean by the phrase "especially in Mississippi"? "Scum"? Are you one of those who calls any Muslim politician you do not like a "thug".
You call me an idiot.....???? Please explain. Please.
It seems to me that your attitude is no different than the attitude of warmongers. You seem to not be able to see anything but your own point of view.
Your comments have not upset me, but disappointed me with the "tone", if you can understand. Just a suggestion, lighten up a bit. Try to take a "wider view" of any situation. Get Tao, be a Buddhist, love your neighbor as yourself....
My understanding is that the US Military dispenses a lot of "drugs" to its soldiers to keep them alert. As example the Pilot that bombed the Canadian troops early in the Afghan war mentioned he was using a number of drugs to stay "alert". (Go Pills).
Troops on patrol or at isolated encampments also use them. One wonders at the long term effects of these drugs.
The article suggests how some soldiers would rather be with "Their Unit" then with their families. Is this a psychological conditioning and part of Military training?
When one becomes part of "The Unit" so that they are "integrated" and loyal to one another (leave no man behind and so on) does this involve the severing of ties to Society as a whole? Does loyalty to unit break down ones loyalty to morality and conscience?
If so how is that undone?
There was an article posted here a while back where it mentioned the US Military was working on a drug that would supress a persons "concsience" and feelings of revulsion at the taking the lives of others.
Military training tries to do that very thing. (See An Initmate History of Killing by Joanna Burke).
IE they were still using bayonet training long after the bayonet all but useless because it was seen as a way to "conditioning" the soldier to have ZERO moral qualms over stabbing an "object" twenty times over with a blade.
I can only conclude that while actual Combat plays a role, so too does the training and conditioning the troops undergo.
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Of course - all soldiers are brainwashed. It's just that the methods of brainwashing keep improving - the military makes psychopaths out of ordinary men and women. These soldiers will NEVER defend US citizens (let alone any others) because they are loyal only to their units - they will just as easily kill YOU as any other person on this planet (and they will kill anyone - even in their own unit - who challenges their insanity). And they will do so with no qualms and no regrets - until you try to integrate them into normal society - that's when the shit hits the fan. That's what you're seeing now - and it was most certainly entirely predictable that the consequences we see today would be par-for-the-course.
Most humans are NOT 'born killers' - but they can be broken down to the point where even their own lives are meaningless (which the military indoctrinates from Day One) - their sole purpose is to 'kill the enemy' and defend NOTHING other than 'their own' - the same antisocial behavior instilled in police, paramilitary, mercenaries, street gangs, etc. Their weapon is their 'best friend' - everyone and everything else is expendable. These are the broken and wasted remains of what were once mostly ordinary people - there isn't any way to 'fix' them - because there isn't any way to justify what's been done to them to get them to do 'their job' - their 'mission' - because they aren't defending their homes, their families, or their country (which relative morality permits, in most societies) - they are murdering, pillaging, raping, looting, and torturing because that's what's been done to them. This isn't necessary for self-defense - but it IS necessary for wars of aggression. The Germans had a word for it - kadavergehorsamkeit - look it up.
As for the drugs - most of the ones they are taking will severely damage or kill them, sooner or later. The 'problem' thus resolves itself. Until the next batch.
My own army brat experience was growing up in the army during the Vietnam War. Back then, there were no support groups and a complete lack of discussion of the impact PTSD. LtCol Grossman, West Point, has a good book On Killing. Combined with Lucifer's Effect, these two books cover a lot of psychological mileage.
On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society by LtCol Dave Grossman, 2009, Excerpts
Killing comes with a price, and societies must learn that their soldiers will have to spend the rest of their lives living with what they have done. Society must now begin to understand the enormity of the price and process of killing in combat. By manipulating variables, modern armies direct the flow of violence, turning killing on and off like a faucet. But this is a delicate and dangerous process. Too much, and you end up with a My Lai, which can undermine your efforts. Too little, and your soldiers will be defeated and killed by someone who is more aggressively disposed.
The armed forces of every country can take almost any young male civilian and turn him into a soldier with all the right reflexes and attitudes in only a few weeks. These recruits usually have no more than twenty years’ experience of the world, most of it as children, while the armies have had all of history to practice and perfect their technique. This stage in an adolescent’s psychological and social development is a crucial period in which the individual establishes a stable and enduring personality structure and sense of self.