Privatizing Water System Could Be a Risky Move for Chicago
Mayor Richard Daley could learn from other cities' experiences
Mayor Richard Daley says any part of city government is up for grabs if the price is right.
But if he is tempted to dangle Chicago's vast water system as his next lease deal, he might want to first consult Atlanta, which is still smarting from a botched experiment with privatizing a big-city water supply.
Or the mayor could look someplace closer to home, like Bolingbrook, one of dozens of suburbs and downstate communities furious about steep rate increases imposed by a private water operator.
Daley is searching for more jackpots as his administration draws heavily on the money it reaped from leasing parking meters and the Chicago Skyway to ease the city through the recession. The mayor recently told the Tribune editorial board that he has met with consultants who outlined new privatization deals, but he would not provide details.
"Everything is always on the table," Daley said, though mayoral aides later insisted that nothing immediate is in the works.
If Chicago tried to sell off its water department to a private company, it would be the largest U.S. city to do so. Such a deal also would run counter to movements in dozens of smaller towns across the suburbs and the rest of the nation, where local officials are having second thoughts about private control of public water.
Mayors from Homer Glen to Urbana are threatening municipal takeovers of their local water systems, moved by complaints about skyrocketing rates and lackluster service from corporate operators. Fort Wayne, Ind., already wrested away part of its water system and is seeking to buy back the rest after accusing a private operator of putting shareholder interests before those of customers.
Backers of privatizing government services suffered a bigger setback in Atlanta, where city leaders tried during the late 1990s to turn over management of the water system to a corporate operator. In 2003, less than four years into a 20-year deal, Atlanta regained public control in response to cost overruns, service problems and breakdowns.
Similar concerns forced Milwaukee this year to scuttle a bid to lease its water system. Even the idea of studying a deal prompted such a fierce outcry that city leaders backed off, at least for now.
"Water is critical to a city's future management and growth," said Rob Hunter, Atlanta's commissioner of watershed management. "It's not something you want to turn over to somebody else."
It is unknown how much money could be raised by leasing Chicago's system, which pumps treated Lake Michigan water to 7 million people in the city and suburbs. The payoff likely would increase based on how much control the city would be willing to sign over to a private water company.
But given the public backlash over the mayor's controversial parking meter deal and mindful of what has happened in other communities that have experimented with private control of water, questions remain about whether the short-term windfall would be worth the potential long-term costs.
Mayoral critics want to make sure more safeguards are in place to ensure public debate of any future lease proposals. They note that Daley aides briefed aldermen on the parking meter deal just one day before the City Council approved it in December.
"The fact that they've refused to answer any questions (about a potential water lease) suggests there is something in the works," said Ald. Scott Waguespack, 32nd, one of only five aldermen who voted against the mayor's parking meter lease.
Lenders and investors are skittish to cut new deals in the wake of the financial crisis, but Daley says he wants to revive his proposed lease of Midway Airport when the markets recover.
Another target could be the water system, though Daley concedes that could be a tougher sell. The Department of Water Management currently is run by unionized employees, some of whom were hired through an illegal patronage system that rewarded pro-Daley campaign workers.
"You're giving this more weight than is warranted," said Jacquelyn Heard, Daley's spokeswoman. "The mayor is not thinking at all now or even in the near future about leasing any more assets."
Private operation of water systems already has become a contentious issue in the suburbs, where many mayors are fighting rate increases from a company that charges more for the same Lake Michigan water than neighboring municipal systems. They fear that privatizing the Chicago system could lead to even higher rate increases that would be passed along to dozens of suburbs that buy water from the city.
Homeowners in DuPage and Will counties will pay 30 percent more for their water next year if a private operator, Illinois American Water, wins state approval for a rate hike.
The company, which sells water to 44,200 suburban households and businesses, wants to charge its DuPage County customers $13.50 for every 1,000 gallons. Will County customers would pay $14.37 for the same amount of water.
By contrast, Chicago's water rates will jump 14 percent in January, to $2.01 for every 1,000 gallons of water. Naperville, a suburb that operates its own municipal system, charges $3 per 1,000 gallons.
"I certainly don't want to be crosswise with the good mayor of Chicago, but I'd rather own my own water system," said Bolingbrook Mayor Roger Claar. "We should control our own destiny, not turn it over to some private operation."
Claar and officials in nearby Homer Glen, Plainfield and Woodridge are threatening to use eminent domain powers to seize their water systems from Illinois American, which started buying up dozens of suburban and downstate systems in the 1980s.
Urbana and Peoria already tried to buy their water systems from Illinois American but failed to muscle proposals through the Illinois Commerce Commission. In response, mayors from across the state lobbied for a 2006 state law that eliminated the need for commission approval of water system purchases.
"Chicago would be crazy to lease its water system," said Urbana Mayor Laurel Prussing. Illinois American, she said, has "been able to take advantage of a monopoly for too long."
In an e-mail, Illinois American said it is unfair to compare its rates to those charged by municipalities. Cities can levy additional taxes and fees to fund services, and some have kept rates low by avoiding maintenance and upgrades, the company argued.
The company's proposed rate increase, the second requested in as many years, would pay for $184 million in new pipes, hydrants and other equipment statewide, said Kathryn Foster, an Illinois American spokeswoman.
"Even if the rate request were granted ... water remains a good value at around a penny a gallon," she said.
Other cities that have turned their water systems over to corporate operators or considered such a deal often promote privatization as a more cost-effective way to finance upgrades.
"Private operators can achieve greater efficiency and scale in their cost of capital improvement," claimed a Web site promoting a bid last year to lease the sewer system in Akron, Ohio.
Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard has solicited bids from two dozen companies to lease his city's water and sewer systems. Most of the proposals pledge to cut costs by combining billing and service fleets and by promising to lower the price of needed improvements.
Customers remain skeptical, if not hostile, to privatizing water. Last year, voters overwhelmingly rejected Akron's sewer lease. In Indianapolis, residents have filed a lawsuit accusing the company that already operates the city's water system of routinely overcharging 250,000 households.
Moreover, some cities that have experimented with privatization figured out that municipal bonds still are a cheaper way to finance improvements than turning over their water systems to companies.
"The pitch is that privatization will lead to lower rates," said Hunter, the Atlanta water commissioner. "That isn't necessarily true."
Still, mayors and other local officials keep pushing the idea. They see public asset leases as a way to avoid raising taxes, slashing services or firing workers.
Wally Morics, the elected Milwaukee comptroller, this year suggested leasing the water system to pump more money into city coffers. He estimates a 75- to 99-year lease could generate up to $600 million, which would be invested to provide an endowment of $30 million a year.
"We see budget gaps that are just going to grow and grow and grow in the future," Morics said. "People want services, but our model to pay for those services is broken."
Daley boasts that he had the foresight to lease Chicago's parking meters and the skyway before the financial markets collapsed. But at the rate his administration is spending money from those leases, most of the jackpots will be gone by next year.
Instead of investing the money and spending only the interest earnings, Daley's proposed budget would drain nearly $600 million from the $1.15 billion lease of city parking meters, on top of almost $400 million that will be spent by the end of this year. That leaves less than $800 million of the $2 billion reaped from the leases.
With Daley predicting that Chicago will continue to limp through the economic recovery, there will be pressure to find new sources of money to keep city government operating. Meanwhile, private companies will keep collecting all of the money generated by parking meters and the skyway for most of the next century.
"If you think the parking meter deal was a disaster, just think what could happen with water, something everybody uses and needs," said Woods Bowman, a professor of public service management at DePaul University and the former chief financial officer for Cook County. "What happens when the money runs out and there's nothing left to sell or lease?"
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Show All"Has anyone figured-out yet how you can sell air?"
Yeah. Service stations to fill your leaky tire, at 75-cents a pop.
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Citizens of New York State are protesting Gov. Paterson's proposal to change the license plates. They will need to buy new plates. I never saw so many boxes of signed petitions. Where are our priorities? If only we could channel that much energy and commitment to a cause such as ending the wars, protecting the environment and infrastructure, affordable health care for all citizens and protesting privatized roads, nuclear plants, water systems, parks, rain forests,military (black water) , police departments, tax supported schools, privatized charities which do not have the ability to handle the demand,( forcing hungry Americans to beg religious groups for food that has run out).Food and clean water belong to all citizens of the global village. I have heard it said that the next wars will be fought over water. We must protest the privatization of water with at least as much enthusiasm as being forced to buy a new license plate.
Hey Cee Miracles---
Brilliant "rant."
And in re not allowing the homeless to bathe in Lake Michigan (sort of like the opposite of India), isn't that the same Daley Chicago where a few short years ago during that big heat wave all those old people fried to death in their homes because they didn't have fans or air conditioning? Probably the highest per-capita heat-related deaths on record. And where was our vaunted national "community organizer" then?
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"accusing a private operator of putting shareholder interests before those of customers"
How many more failures and crises do "customers" need to go through before everyone knows and understands the basic truth above.
For the most part, shareholders are the small minority of the population that controls most of the weath of the nation. They usually don't live in the areas where these water customers are, and if they are, they can easily provide themselves with safe water sources. Health and safety of the public aren't their concern when profits are to be made. Has anyone figured-out yet how you can sell air?
It's also time for those "customers" to recognize that perhaps they need to pay a bit more to have essential needs and services provided by the community, and country, so all will benefit.
"Has anyone figured-out yet how you can sell air?"
Yes, its called oxygen and is available at oxygen bars. Google it.
Water is part of the commons.
Everyone drinks.
Privatization is folly.
It removes the common cause.
We all know it's so some jerks will get richer.
They'd be stupid to sell their water. The price would quadruple and the water quality would decrease.
Please be careful. In Michigan private companies have drained so much water from tributaries that would have normally flowed into the great lakes, they have stopped flowing. The water levels went down while the bottled water companies made millions and Michigan got NOTHING other than losing their precious commodity . Privatization of water is a real mistake. They can sell it off and no return. Water is more important than oil. It is our lifeline.
If it was not for the few people who protested for years this company would still be stealing what belongs to the people. The money hungry companies would suck it dry and go to the next pool of water and drain it. They have no soul.
It so happens I got my quarterly water bill today. I buy it by the cubic metre (in Canada) for $0.886 or about $3.20 for 1000 US gallons. That doesn't include a standing quarterly charge of $10 for the meter.
Canada has more fresh water than any other country and we are very protective of it regarding privatization.
Except when it comes to energy companies using it for producing tarsands, eh?
Daley is Esau. Some selfish, opportunistic corporation is Jacob. But unlike Esau, Daley has no RIGHT to sell the birthright for a mess of pottage. It is not his. Water is my birthright and yours too.
Joe
Governments are increasingly prone to make surrealistic economic decisions that would put a desperate junkie to shame.
Once in a while, especially in these hard times, one runs across stories about someone trying to sell "naming rights" on E-bay or the like. That is an actual recent example-- some poor slob turning his Self into a blank sandwich board. IIRC, there were no takers.
This story is a little closer to the time-honored tradition of selling one's blood.
Here in Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell was glad to sell off the PA Turnpike to make a few quick bucks. It hasn't happened... yet.
· Yr Obd't Servant
Can somebody get Kucinich to give Dumbass Daley a call and explain to him why you don't sell off the commons.
Cleveland Mayor Kucinich refuses to sell Muny Light:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/
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Food too, and the big corporations are buying up acres and acres and acres of arable land in Africa like crazy in order to plant their corporate-farm hybrid GMO seeds for export.
Mass starvation is happening now, and it will get worse before it gets better if it does.
My own opinion is that those at the highest levels of power, and I'm not talking the presidency or the U.S. government or other governments, fully approve and encourage particular pathways so as to get rid of the "surplus" population which is growing in leaps and bounds.
The Eugenics Movements from the 1920's promoted by some of the very wealthiest in this country and in Europe is alive and well. Hitler took note.
A friend just found a very thick book on Eugenics from the 1920's and gave it to me. Just browsing it I picked up the tone of superiority and arrogance of the "better-bred people." What they promoted and managed to have implemented for many of the "ill-bred" people makes your hair stand on end.
We're still doing the same thing. It's called WAR against ... [fill in the blanks]. And the people we attack and kill are certainly seen as inferior and not our equals.
Listen to the newscasters talk about Iran and how our government and Israel's government talk about Iran. Naughty and evil Iran. How dare they build a nuclear plant or even develop a nuclear bomb?
No matter India and Pakistan have nukes with help from the U.S. of A.; no matter European countries have nuclear plants and perhaps nuclear weapons; no matter the United States has perhaps the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world and several dangerously aging nuclear plants. And, of course, the U.S. would never let inspectors in to inspect our nuclear facilities. Israel gave the IAEU inspectors the finger by hiding their weapons.
Iran is a sovereign nation. How come THEY have to report or ask permission for everything they do?
It's just that the plans in the works to attack and bomb Iran cause a rash of impatient itches in Israel and the U.S. And Iran, so far, has not been defiant, as is said, but, in my opinion and under the circumstances, they have been very reasonable.
They know one move that is perceived as aggression and it's kiss their Muslim butts goodbye.
GWBUSH's "Preventive War Policy" is still on the books. If a country even appears aggressive ... or even utters aggressive thoughts which may be just strong disagreement ... BAM! that gives us the right to attack them. That's the policy Sarah Palin didn't know about when asked by Katie Couric. She probably still never bothered to find out, but if she did, I'll bet she thinks that's one groovy policy. "Neato."
Just listening to the parrot-like reporting of NPR, and the one-sided slants, all I hear is insanity, insanity, insanity.
Today Obama speaking to Chinese students about freedom of the internet and how good this is for the exchange of information and citizens being able to express their opinions. The same-old, same-old ... Ain't we wonderful with our freedom and democracy and even peace-loving ways. He alluded to that too.
Insanity ... how many Afghans were fried today for no reason other than they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
It's amazing to me the hypocrisy and how some people can even look in the mirror everyday.
Sick stuff.
... but back to the water. Lake Michigan in the sultry, hot, hot summer with the poor and the homeless standing on the banks of the Lake and not allowed on the beaches or to swim, and they are thirsty, but water is now costly. ... Up goes the cry of The Ancient Mariner: Water, Water Everywhere, But Not a Drop to Drink ... and a few people stumble away and fall down with a stroke or dead. Just a few more of the undesirables eliminated! Hot damn!
Insanity. Insanity. Insanity.
Hey, Mayor Daley ... have a heart and please use your brains when you study what has happened in other cities and in other countries and do take seriously THE SHOCK DOCTRINE that we ourselves are in the midst of now ... and fool us all.
End of rant.
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"Food too, and the big corporations are buying up acres and acres and acres of arable land in Africa like crazy in order to plant their corporate-farm hybrid GMO seeds for export".
"Mass starvation is happening now, and it will get worse before it gets better if it does".
According to CNN's "ticker" yesterday, currently, Global starvation stands at one billion people. And if that doesn't scare you try this:
Codex Alimentarius comes into play December!
In 1995, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) created an illegal policy stating that international standards (i.e, Codex) would supersede U.S. laws governing all food even if these standards were incomplete [5]. Furthermore, in 2004 the U.S. passed the Central American Free Trade Agreement (illegal under U.S. law, but legal under international law) that requires the U.S. to conform to Codex in December of 2009.
Some Codex standards that will take effect on December 31, 2009 and once initiated are completely irrevocable include [2]:
* All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to “prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease”
* All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).
* Nutrients allowed will be limited to a Positive List developed by Codex which will include such beneficial nutrients like Fluoride (3.8 mg daily) developed from environmental waste. All other nutrients will be prohibited nationally and internationally to all Codex-compliant countries [2].
* All nutrients (e.g., CoQ10, Vitamins A, B, C, D, Zinc and Magnesium) that have any positive health impact on the body will be deemed illegal under Codex and are to be reduced to amounts negligible to humans’ health [3].
* You will not even be able to obtain these anywhere in the world even with a prescription.
* All advice on nutrition (including written online or journal articles or oral advice to a friend, family member or anyone) will be illegal. This includes naturalnews.com reports on vitamins and minerals and all nutritionist’s consultations.
* All dairy cows are to be treated with Monsanto’s recombinant bovine growth hormone.
* All animals used for food are to be treated with potent antibiotics and exogenous growth hormones.
* The reintroduction of deadly and carcinogenic organic pesticides that in 1991, 176 countries (including the U.S.) have banned worldwide including 7 of the 12 worst at the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pesticides (e.g., Hexachlorobenzene, Toxaphene, and Aldrin) will be allowed back into food at elevated levels [4].
* Dangerous and toxic levels (0.5 ppb) of aflotoxin in milk produced from moldy storage conditions of animal feed will be allowed. Aflotoxin is the second most potent (non-radiation) carcinogenic compound known to man.
* Mandatory use of growth hormones and antibiotics on all food herds, fish and flocks.
* Worldwide implementation of unlabeled GMOs into crops, animals, fish and trees.
* Elevated levels of residue from pesticides and insecticides that are toxic to humans and animals.
Some examples of potential permissible safe levels of nutrients under Codex include [2]:
* Niacin – upper limits of 34 mcg daily (effective daily doses include 2000 to 3000 mcgs).
* Vitamin C – upper limits of 65 to 225 mcg daily (effective daily doses include 6000 to 10000 mcgs).
* Vitamin D – upper limits of 5 ?g daily (effective daily doses include 6000 to 10000 ?g).
* Vitamin E – upper limits of 15 IU of alpha tocopherol only per day, even though alpha tocopherol by itself has been implicated in cell damage and is toxic to the body (effective daily doses of mixed tocopherols include 10000 to 12000 IU).
Some Codex standards that will take effect on December 31, 2009 and once initiated are completely irrevocable include [2]:
* All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to “prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease”
* All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).
Miggy - This sounds more like satire. I kept waiting for the punch line.
Do you have some direct references for the above? [I'll look it up anyway, but you may have other references.] And if this is truly THE LAW going into effect in December, 2009, then we have reached a level of insanity that is incomprehensible except that we know that the inmates escaped from the asylum quite some time ago and they and their similarly afflicted offspring are running the world for sure.
Is this why Dr. Andrew Weil now is involved in a lawsuit against him for promoting aragula and other foods and herbs to ward against Swine Flu instead of advising people to get the Swine Flu vaccine? and there is a definite "war" against herbalists and health food establishments?
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Cee Miracles: Codex goes into effect December 2009 in the European Union. There have been court callenges and I don't know if there will be a stay of execution. It's been harder to do here because of the DSHEA of 1994 (Dietary Supplement and Health E..... Act) Thanks to, of all people, Sen. Orrin Hatch. But they are working to overturn this at every opportunity. I can promise that you will see at least some of it in any health "reform" that comes out of Congress.
See: healthfreedomusa.org and start reading "About Codex" This is real. The federal gov't has been "at war" against natural medicine for decades. Big Pharma sees the writing on the wall and is running scared. The FDA has removed many supplements as "unapproved drugs" once they are shown to be effective via double-blind, placebo trials. See: FDA and pyridoxamine
Dr Weil is involved because the FDA is going after anyone who offers an alternative to swine flu vaccine. Dr. Weil wasn't the only one in their path.
This has been the basis of my rant against any gov't health care system, because it will be used to shut this down. The bill in 1993 had a provision that a doctor would be fined $10,000 for using "unapproved treatments" EVEN IF THE PATIENT PAID FOR THE TREATMENT OUT OF POCKET!! Doctors also lose licenses even when their patients are healed!
Also, can go to hsibaltimore.com and sign up for e-alerts. They also have an archive with a good search engine that you can use. To get more detailed info, you can pay $49 for a 1 yr subscription to Nutrition & Healing newsletter. You will be amazed at how low cost, health care can be. Also search: "IV vitamin C and viruses"
Everyone need to learn about natural medicine also called nutritional medicine, functional medicine. Dr Mark Hyman testified in Congress that he and colleagues reduced costs for ADHD by 80% by treating with allergy testing, diet changes and nutritional supplements.
Hilarious! The Chicago Tribune declares water privatization "could be risky"!! It is virtually assured that Chicagoans will be paying more for privatized water than public sector water. The elephant in the living room is this pathetic public submission to laissez-faire capitalism, but it's not everywhere. Chicago, New York, Houston and Los Angeles will be the last holdouts, propping up dead old Milton Friedman till they can't no more.
Birdbrain Alley suggests that Daley has "an egotism which envies the Id."
Good line, and one that probably fits most U.S politicians.
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Globalization and Privatization, the dream of
George H W Bush to Bubba Clinton. We are in a major depression and the Globalists have won the game. If they can control the water we drink, we have become slaves.
On a broader scale the bigger picture is quite frighting. Privatization of our local police forces.
Montana Attorney General to investigate APF-American Police Force
HELENA – Montana’s attorney general launched an investigation Thursday into American Police Force, the California company headed by a Serbian national with a long criminal history that has seeks to run an empty, 464-bed jail in Hardin.
Bullock sent a nine-page demand letter late this afternoon to Becky Shay, the spokeswoman for APF and the company’s only Montana employee.
http://www.billingsgazette.com.....e=comments
"APF were originally contracted to provide security at a previously empty detention center in Hardin, a small town in Montana, but are now patrolling the streets driving SUV’s with “Police Department” printed on them despite the fact that Hardin doesn’t have a police department. American Police Force has no jurisdiction in the area because it is a private organization, not a police force".
http://www.infowars.com/montana-town-occupied-by-private-paramilitary-security-force/
Read Naomi Klein's THE SHOCK DOCTRINE and John Perkins' CONFESSIONS OF AN ECONOMIC HIT MAN, and you too Chicago can have your poor drinking water from muddy puddles while the more well-to-do have sparkling, clear water to wash their poodles.
What would happen if every elected official put the good of all of the people ahead of corporate profit or government expediency, and asked themselves the simple question Gandhi suggested any leader ask. How will what I do affect the poorest and lowliest person? -- the most vulnerable.
We should take a note from the stabiity and success of particular European countries whose Democratic Socialism works very well for everyone.
The basic necessities -- water, housing, medical care, care of the elderly and disabled, education, heat, light, food are guaranteed. Yes, taxes are higher, but no one has to worry about doctor bills, whether they have a roof over their head or over-all whether they will be protected and cared for.
Social Security is a form of socialism, and FDR had a long list of other changes, as above, he wanted to make. Never happened. He was up against Wall Street and the Republicans and Father Coughlin = Rush Limbaugh et al.
Those of us who live on Social Security will bless this man to the day we die; that is if the Social Security monies aren't plundered by the viciously greedy and short-sighted. Got plenty of them in this country, and at this moment they seem to be winning again as Foreclosure signs blossom like deadly flowers on lawns and whole families head for the streets or family-car housing.
Read the latest UN report on the disgraceful way the U.S. treats its homeless. Maybe they have to drink their water from polluted streams and rivers where they pitch their tents or construct shelters from cardboard cartons. Welcome to the U.S. of A.
Talk about losing the soul of a nation ... as we go off and create living hells for other people with our torture and our bombs.
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I like your observations, as usual. PS - the two books you recommend changed the way I look at things. I agree that people should read them.
Joe
When, oh when, will the People rise up and say, "enough is enough"? Cochabamba residents threw Bechtel out when they tried to privatize their water system. Are we so anesthetized that we have no guts left to stand up for what is right?
I keep asking the same questions, Peggy. And getting the same non-answers. Apparently we're either gutless or lazy.
I once remarked that Richie Daley, as well as most "Chicago" Democrats are really Republicans. That's how they think, vote, and govern. The last thing Chicago, and Illinois, needs is more of the commons being leased to private companies. Of course corporations put the interests of their stockholders first. Not to do so would be a violation of their corporate charters. What really needs to be done is strip "person-hood" from corporations and limit the terms of their charters. Corporations should be reviewed the same as any business or professional licensees. oops. I'm awake now...
Corporatizing the Commonwealth. Call the crime what it is!
One man allowing the dispersal of common democraticly held property.
This lummox of a mayor would sell the fire, police and court services next.
Never allow your politics to degenerate into a one-party machine.
Forget the idea of CITIZEN of a democracy!
You really are now no more than a Corporate CONSUMER.
Mussulini had a name for it too. Pity that Strongman Daley doesn't speak Italian, he could cop some dramatic speaches.
Chicago should sell its water system to CocaCola
then instead of Hot and Cold, each residencial faucet could produce Hi-C and Coke
Chicago should sell its water system to CocaCola
then instead of Hot and Cold, each residencial faucet could produce Hi-C and Coke
For The People.
Buy The People.
(Daley's Unwritten Campaign Slogan)
Daley should follow the lead of Chicago's School Board and put a bullet in his head.
Business is owned and controlled by the 1% rich,
government is owned and controlled by 100% of us.
Now who in their right mind would trust the rich more then they trust themselves?
That's how it should be, but right now the government is controlled by 1% of business.
BIG, BIG, mistake. just about every township city etc. who has tried this has regretted it. the corps already hold us hostage in banking, insurance, oil, and the list goes on. water is a basic human right, and to put the control of it in the hands of greedy monsters that have proven over and over their only interest is profit, is suicide. one city here in calif. i think it was stockton or near there, had to end up using tax payers money to buy back control of the city water system because it was so badly managed by the private corp. people of Chicago, DONT LET THIS HAPPEN, you will regret it.
Privatization should be called what it is: PIRATIZATION. Only the pirates win in these situations.
What this is is BAD gov't. It looks at the bottom line as being the important thing and ignores the actual well being and benefit to it's citizens. As long as it's not costing the gov't, they don't mind if it costs the citizens 5 times more for the same service. And it DOES cost the citizens 5 times when you have corporations doing things that should be the responsibility of the state, county, or municipality.
How about a real world example? Health care. It costs us 30% more right off the top than anyone else in the world, because we allowed them to add the GD profit motive on top of the service itself. How on earth can adding another expense make something cost less? It's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. There is NO WAY that adding a required 30% on top of anything will make it more efficient.
Anyone looking to do such a foolish thing as this has their heads squarely where the sun doesn't shine, or they own a water company. There is really no other reason to do this kind of stupid thing.
It's time to get people OUT of gov't whose whole goal is to dismantle the whole thing and leave us to the "mercies" of the "free market". Gov't SHOULD be responsible for things like water, education and prisons. These things are for the PUBLIC benefit, and they can best be dealt with by having a single entity in charge whose goal is NOT to profit, but to do the job. Time for the republicans, who have proved to us all that they can't do such a job, to get the hell out of the way and allow someone who CAN do the job do so.
Daley may be developing a bad case of "Wall Streets" disease, which is manifested through an abandonment of PUBLIC resposibility and an ardent desire to gamble with other peoples futures and welfare because of a growing lack of connection to people with less money and an egotism which envies the Id. As the disease advances, the sufferers hearing is affected so that they cannot hear rising voices of discontent, but they can only hear the most private whispers of CEOs.
He may have "contracted" the disease from his association with Barack Obama or the former head of the Chicago schools, Mr. Duncan. Both of whom, as well as most of their closest associates, are suffering with the effects of terribly advanced cases of the disease.
I don't like to meddle in other people's personal lives, but I would advise Mr. Daley to "wash his hands" more often and be very careful who he associates with, especially in private.
Sorry, triple post.
Sorry, double post
You have to be kidding. I grew up on the South Side, then spent another 25 years on the North Side. Believe me, Daley did not get "'Wall Streets' disease" from Obama or Duncan. His brother, Bill, was the behind the scenes money man and worked at First National Bank (or was on the Board) before he became the Nafta "go to" man for Clinton and before he ran Al Gore's campaign. One of my favorite laugh out loud moments after the election was watching Bill Daley wax indignant about butterfly ballots--after all, that's how we voted in Chicago.
The Daleys have been screwing Chicagoans for decades. The problem is the pot was always big enough that the middle class could still do well so they closed their eyes. Now the party's over and Daley can be seen for what he and his family always were--thieves and con men.
Kickback boondoggle time. Goes to the myth of the "efficiency of markets," which is a crock. Any municipality that sells off or leases its physical assets (infrastructure) does so for political expediency that merely delays a financial reckoning. This is what third world countries do at the behest of the World Bank and the IMF, and then they regret it.
There is a long history of "public utilities" in this country and elsewhere, for a reason.
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Daley is a dumb ass. He should ask Atlanta about water privatizing. They tried it less than ten years ago with less than satisfactory results.
What I think he means is: "Any thing belonging to the public is for sale by me personally."
The Great Lakes Water compact members should REVOKE Chicago's permission to divert water from Lake Michigan if Chicago sells its water system to a private, profit-making company. This diversion was not approved so some private entity could make money off this scarce resource.
Jim Shea
"What happens when the money runs out and there's nothing left to sell or lease?"
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The conpany dissolves into bankruptcy or receivership and Chicagoans are "on their own" and thanks for the memories and profits.
Poet
Privatizing water is one of the worst ideas ever. People in several countries in South America know this and have opposed water privatization.
Who would buy the water rights? People who invest and speculate. Do you want the same narcissists who are currently gutting the financial system to have control over whether you can take a drink of water, how much it will cost and whether it will be pure?
That anyone could even raise this idea and not be lynched (politically I mean) is indicative of the chutzpah of the corporations.
Joe
"Privatizing water is one of the worst ideas ever." That statement is simply "Hogwash"! Hogwash I say!
Once Wall Street takes over the water supply they can charge people so much that the people will have to take out 30 year loans to pay for it. Of course the poor will be a risky investment so they will take all the loans and bundle them into "Water Backed Securities". Now I know what you're thinking, "Mortgaged Backed Securities" is one of the things that got us into the current financial mess. But these will be backed by "Water", and after all there is nothing more "Liquid" than water so we have nothing to worry about.
Once they they are all bundled up these, "Secure Commodities Receipt Equity Water - Utilities", or SCREW-Us will be sold all over the world. Wall Street will make millions, and on the outside chance that something does go wrong the taxpayers will be more that happy to bail out Wall Street because they wont want to die from dehydration.
See it's a win-win for everybody!
SCREW-Us - I am still laughing.
Joe
Bechtel and Suez will be more than happy to charge you more than EXXON for your water.
Seriously. Fucking morons.
In Daley's Chicago all things outrageous are possible.
Poet
They can't cope with all the "gang violence" going on right now.
What the hell do they think they'll face when people can't afford water to drink?
Force the people to buy "Water Supply Insurance" ?
LOL, that reminds me.
One of Glenn Beck's most recent major sponsors for his radio show:
http://www.foodinsurance.com/