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Senators Accuse Pentagon of Delay in Recovering Millions
The Pentagon has done little to collect at least $100 million in overcharges paid in deals arranged by corrupt former officials of Kellogg Brown & Root, the defense contractor, even though the officials admitted much of the wrongdoing years ago, two senators have complained in a letter to Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates.
The letter also said that the Army had almost completely failed to move away from the monopolistic nature of the logistics contract that has paid the contractor, now called KBR, $31.3 billion for logistics operations in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan.
The New York Times obtained a copy of the letter, dated Friday, by the senators, Claire McCaskill, Democrat of Missouri, and Susan M. Collins, Republican of Maine. Senator McCaskill is chairman of a contracting oversight subcommittee of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Senator Collins is the subcommittee's ranking Republican.
Their letter is likely to revive allegations that the Pentagon has become so close to KBR, and relies so heavily on it, that there is little inclination or incentive to discipline the company, in response to either Congress or critics outside the government.
In 2007 the Army split the logistics contract, known as Logcap, in a way that allowed several companies to compete for each new need. The Army did this partly to avoid relying solely on KBR, whose pricing practices, even when technically legal, have sometimes received criticism as exorbitant. But the Army has seldom used the newly competitive arrangement.
The senators wrote that as of February, the latest date for which the subcommittee had received information, the Army had "not awarded a single task order for work in Iraq," the biggest source of logistics work.
In pressing for use of the new competitive arrangement, the senators cited 2008 legislation that calls for competition by multiple companies on military contracts unless there is "a compelling reason not to do so." The senators also brought up Congressional testimony by the Army's chief of logistics that they said indicated the Army had no such compelling reason.
Reached for comment, Dan Carson, a spokesman at the Army Sustainment Command in Rock Island, Ill., which administers the work, pointed out that under the new competitive arrangement, in which KBR, Fluor and Dyncorp submit bids, Fluor and Dyncorp have received some work in Afghanistan and Kuwait. Mr. Carson said that the Army was working toward awarding work in Iraq under the new competitive arrangement.
A spokeswoman for KBR, Heather L. Browne, said all of KBR's logistics contracts have been won competitively. She added that "when KBR has discovered wrongdoing of any sort by an employee, we have swiftly reported it to the government," and said the company "in no way condones or tolerates illegal or unethical behavior." KBR itself has not been accused of wrongdoing in any of the cases of fraud by former employees.
Ms. Browne made clear that the company intended to continue its logistics work, saying KBR remained committed to high quality and to "engaging in a transparent and fact-based dialogue with the government."
The letter and the Pentagon auditing documents that back up its conclusions are likely to be a point of discussion in Washington on Monday, when the Wartime Contracting Commission, a bipartisan legislative commission, is scheduled to meet on the logistics program, according to its Web site.
To the irritation of KBR's critics, the Army has generally upheld the bills the company has submitted to the military, even when the Pentagon's own auditors have questioned the amounts. But the argument that the Army was overcharged appears to be more clear-cut in the cases of several former KBR officials convicted of accepting bribes and kickbacks.
In those cases, the Army asked KBR to perform a certain task under the Logcap contract, like buying living trailers or building a dining facility, and the KBR officials found subcontractors in the region to carry out the actual work. The officials took bribes to steer the work toward subcontractors who were not the low bidders, or simply inflated the worth of the contracts once they had been awarded.
In the contracts handled by just one of those officials, Stephen Lowell Seamans, who pleaded guilty to bribery and conspiracy in March 2006, Pentagon auditors quickly found potential excess profits by a Kuwaiti subcontractor of $49.8 million, or 76 percent, "as a result of Mr. Seamans's fraudulent activities," the senators wrote.
Of $306 million in tainted contracts, at least $100 million of the charges appeared to be unjustified, wrote the senators.
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Show All"Of $306 million in tainted contracts, at least $100 million of the charges appeared to be unjustified, wrote the senators."
So relax, it's really a matter of the glass only being two-thirds full of shit.
remind me, again, who's in charge of kbr.
The real question should be "Who's in charge of the Pentagram." AIPAC and IDF?
Once again, a smoke and mirrors sub-committee to calm the angry (but not angry enough) masses. "It's a tale, told by some idiots...full of sound and fury...signifying nothing but appeasement.....apologies for the paraphrase, WS....
The penalty for War Profiteering is Death. This WWII law is still active.
glenn ford said:
"The penalty for War Profiteering is Death. This WWII law is still active."
But in the Bushmonkey family, they promote you to Senator for it.....
WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his “enemy national” partners.
The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury and FBI, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler’s rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.
Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush’s maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial baron for nearly eight months after the U.S. entered the war.
http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
The banking pages have been attacked and erased, and have been overwritten with roses, but if you wiki Brown brothers Harriman & Company you can still see the info in wiki's history tab section (then click compare with earliest version) You get:
Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. was created through the 1931 merger of Brown Brothers & Co., a merchant bank founded in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1818 with Harriman Brothers & Co., established in New York City in 1927, and A. Harriman & Co..
Its initial partners were:
W. Averell Harriman
E. Roland Harriman
Moreau Delano
Thatcher Brown
Prescott S. Bush
Granger Kent Costikyan
Louis Curtis
Robert A. Lovett
Ray Morris
Knight Woolley
Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. was the main Wall Street connection for German companies and the varied U.S. financial interests of Fritz Thyssen, who had been an early financial backer of the Nazi party until 1938, but by 1939 had fled Germany and was bitterly denouncing Hitler. Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. had bought and shipped millions of dollars of gold, steel, fuel, coal, and U.S. treasury bonds to Germany. These were used to build Hitler's war machine.
All the bank's dealing were fully approved by the U.S. Treasury department, which insisted that trusted Americans handle all the German business in the United States. Once war was declared in December 1941 President Roosevelt signed the Trading With the Enemy Act. On October 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of all German banking interests.
In 2003, the company moved from its signature location at 59 Wall Street, which it had built and occupied since the 1920s, to the Marine Midland Building at Broadway.
Today Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. provides global financial services to the world's largest and most sophisticated mutual funds, hedge funds, asset managers, financial institutions, and insurance companies. Its accolades include being the #1 U.S. agent bank for 10 consecutive years and ranking as "The Best Custodian Ever" by Global Investor magazine.
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And if you keep digging more guess what you uncover? The same bank is involved in all kinds of stuff in the mid east including pre-gulf war activities... With you know who.
Why bother digging? Because this would establish a pattern of behavior. The smoking guns are laying all over the place but we have decided to do nothing about them.
So, the only conclusion I can draw, is that it's O.K. if the treasury department says it's O.K. Laws mean nothing. The same group of shady families has been making a mockery of my constitution since the 1800's.
This is the very definition of what a Crime Family does. Normally, I wouldn't get interested in banking affairs at the international level. But they went too far when they shredded my Bill of Rights. Now somebody do me a favor and pick up the trail at Binladin Brothers for Contracting and Industry.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
Are you implying that there is some connection between Binladen and Bush? You don't think Bush might have been involved in 9/11 do you? No I can't believe that! That George W is a good christian boy.
Thomas Jefferson and fpie, both of you read www.scribd.com/people/documents/2169400-ep-heidner Read Collateral Damage part I and II.
It will change your life.
Thanks yachtie,
I will read that. Do you think the Nazi's Bank: "Brown Brothers, Harriman" from WWII is the same Brown family in "KBR: Kellog Brown and Root" from the Gulf Wars? This would establish a pattern of behavior: the same bank/construction firm starting wars for profit spanning generations.
I don't know. Does anyone know?
Read this from wikipedia about Bushmonkey's other grandfather:
George Herbert Walker
In 1920, Walker became the President of the W.A. Harriman & Co. investment firm, and quickly arranged the credits that Averell Harriman needed to take control of the Hamburg-Amerika Line. Walker also organized the American Ship and Commerce Corp. to be subsidiary of the W.A. Harriman & Co., with contractual power over the affairs of the Hamburg-Amerika. W.A. Harriman & Co., well-positioned for this enterprise and rich in assets from their German and Russian business, merged with the British-American investment house Brown Bros. & Co. on January 1, 1931. Walker retired to his own G.H. Walker & Co. This left the Harriman brothers, his son-in-law Prescott Bush and Thatcher M. Brown as senior partners of the new firm of Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. (The London, England based branch continued operating under its historic name Brown, Shipley & Co.) Walker was a director of the W.A. Harriman & Company; Harriman Fifteen, American International Corporation; Georgian Manganese Corporation; Barnsdall Corporation; American Ship & Commerce Corporation; Union Banking Corporation; G.H. Walker & Company; Missouri Pacific Railroad; Laclede Gas and the New Orleans, Texas and Mexico Railroad.
In addition to his business concerns, Walker was also a golf enthusiast and a President of the United States Golf Association (USGA). The USGA's Walker Cup (the famous biennial golf match) acquired Walker's namessake for his role in the event's creation. His son-in-law, Prescott Bush was a member of the executive committee of the USGA, serving successively as Secretary, Vice President and President, 1928-1935. He also coheaded the syndicate, (with W. Averell Harriman), which rebuilt the famed sports venue of Madison Square Garden and the Belmont Race Track, 1925. His brother-in-law Joseph Walker Wear was one of the founders of the Davis Cup.
Walker was the father of Dorothy Wear Walker, New York Mets cofounder George Herbert Walker, Jr. (Skull and Bones or S&B 1927), Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center CEO Dr. John M. Walker, Sr. (S&B 1931) (father of Judge John M. Walker, Jr.) and CIA officer Louis Walker (S&B 1936).
The connections and motives to start fake wars is everywhere:
Brown and Root was founded in [[Texas]] in [[1919]] by two brothers, George Brown and Herman Brown with money from their brother-in-law, Dan Root. The company began its operations by supervising small road-paving projects, but grew to building enormously complex oil platforms, dams, and Navy warships.
What a tangled web these bankers weave!
The above, as all my post are, are just my opinion only.
TJ
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent." - Thomas Jefferson
"The connections and motives to start fake wars are everywhere."
Territorial wars, political wars, economic wars, CIA undercover wars, financial wars, wars on terror, wars by introducing the patriots act, wars on drugs, wars against economic collapse (bailout), wars against investigative entities, etc..
Check out the "Obama Deception".
I see that the Army's Contracting Program is about as slip-shod as the Navy's. I thought that since the parent company of Kellogg Brown and Root, Halliburton, moved its headquarters to the United Arab Emirates in 2007 that KBR would not be eligible to bid on contracts for the U.S. Defense Department. Seems that it ain't so!
It wasn't that long ago that Bush tried to turn over U.S. ports to the UAE.
So in turn, how much money has been diverted to the senators from KBR?
Aloha, salud, lechiem,
- Tobias
http://www.youtube.com/user/tobiasaurusrex
If the Senate wants the truth from KBR they should waterboard them. Apparently, it's the only way to get at the truth.
the senate suspects the pentagon and kbr...
the pentagon suspects kbr and the senate..
kbr suspects the senate and the pentagon...
all of the above...hello, CIA...
Unfortunately, companies cheating the government in defense contracts has a long and dubious history: the "embalmed beef" scandal of the Spanish-American War & faulty cannons (which had a tendency to explode when fired) were supplied to the Union side in the Civil War are two of the more notorious examples. Consistent with the desire of Dubya, Cheney, & Co.'s desire to lurch the USA backwards to the Robber Baron era, the varied misdeeds of KBR (bet Cheney has plenty of profitable stock options with that one!) should come as no surprise.
Kill, Burn & Loot got their nickname as far back as the LBJ administration, and were raking in 'no bid contracts' as far back as Vietnam.
And wasn't Dyncorp busted for human trafficking in child prostitutes not too long ago? WTF are they still doing in business with the U.S. Gov.?
Yeah, Nate,
I thought that Cheney had to donate his stock options in Halliburton to prevent a "conflict of interest". As they had increased in value by more than 3,000% about three years ago, I wonder why no one followed up on his pledge to donate those stock options. He probably still has them and no one is going to do anything about his obvious "conflict of interest".
Once upon a time there was a nation dedicated to the proposition that all men are free. To secure these freedoms, they instituted a government among them. To protect the nation, that government created an army and a navy. To make the army and navy more efficient, they were privatized. When the defense of the nation was privatized, our defenders turned into profiteers, and our representatives turned into business agents. Our peril grows even as they profit.
Corporate graft in the military industrial complex...this is news?? Can anyone possibly be surprised by this? It will require a high profile presidential inquiry to change this system and I somehow doubt that anyone makes it to the office of the presidency if s/he might actually go after these folks.
Sioux Rose
Alas, now the military industrial complex IS wedded seemlessly with Washington and its profiteers and engineers of war.
America reminds me of a cancer patient. The illness has fully taken over the body, and its diagnosis is abundantly clear in the diseased state of "the patient." That sick entity feeds chiefly on false wealth (all that $ given to the Wall st/banker gamblers and hucksters) and violence (warfare, the MIC). Its mental imagery (food for thought) too often consists of a diet of constant violence (Hollywood productions), each sceneario featuring enhanced scenes of ever-increasing quantities of explosive force, as meanwhile a similar infusion of the darkest forms of pornography fill the covert airways. They render genuine empathy and intimate relating a broken quest. In the midst of all this decadence, many people rush to turn the clock back by embracing dangerously authoritarian belief structures, and gun sales rise. It is AWFUL to live in the belly of this beast only dimly aware of its condition, and less cognizant of what that condition implies in terms of its unfolding fate.
I am not optimistic about The Transition ahead... when a being is fed darkness instead of Light, it cripples and impedes its inevitable journey towards healing. Eventually a new holism will and must be embraced. The midwives of this process require an inordinately strong endowment of spiritual fiber... as a complete breakdown of society is likely. The old body must be dropped to give rise to that which can thrive, that which will out of all that's been sacrificed, learn again to appreciate Life in its myriad and wondrous expressions. Any who begin to speak of weapons in that latter time will be hopefully sequestered in caves, or tied to trees that the gods may decide their fates.
"Alas, now the military industrial complex IS wedded seemlessly [sic] with Washington and its profiteers and engineers of war." - Sioux Rose
The mega-financial institutions, the mega-corporations manufacturing chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and the military-industrial complex [developing/manufacturing/selling/using weapons of all kinds and hi-tech systems] are all wedded seamlessly with what is a figurehead government of oily-tongued shills and grabby, open hands for the filthy lucre].
"America reminds me of a cancer patient. The illness has fully taken over the body, and its diagnosis is abundantly clear in the diseased state of 'the patient.'" -S.R.
The patient is in a terminal condition, Sioux Rose, and the disease has spread to many nations across the globe.
"I am not optimistic about The Transition ahead... when a being is fed darkness instead of Light, it cripples and impedes its inevitable journey towards healing. Eventually a new holism will and must be embraced." - S.R.
I truly believe that until most of what is called "civilization" and "the civilized nations [GWB]," especially this one, are defanged and declawed, perhaps flattened, rubble-ized, poisoned as a result of what I term now as sheer WICKEDNESS [Up until a few years back, except for the witch of The Wizard of Oz, I never used that word], there is not going to be any benevolent transition.
This is not a matter anymore of Unconsciousness, Unawareness. Have we not been sent enough teachers who have expressed the basic moral codes that humanity must live by?
Right Wingers fight hard to get The Ten Commandments/Requirements for being truly civilized in government buildings. Our new President placed his hand and took an oath on the especially chosen Lincoln bible. Yes, the bible is a confusing and convoluted book sometimes, but by the time one reads it all, both Old and New Testaments, the major messages are quite clear.
All the elected officials and important appointed officials of this government do the same hands-on-the-holy-book thing as they take their oaths of office to defend The Constitutions of the Federal government and their respective State governments.
Other "civilized" countries have their own similar swearing-in ceremonies honoring the traditions and codes of moral conduct of their particular cultures and religions.
Of course, then there's always, through the centuries, the Interpretors who bludgeon and twist the basic messages of the various scriptures to suit their cultural, class or gender biases.
But Unconscious ... Unaware ??? No. No. No.
Further, every culture, society, nation, and every religion, every non-religious movement has within its foundation, what Emanuel Kant called the Universal Ethic/Morality:
You will find it in one form or another in all of the above: DO NOT TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE TREATED and its Christian-oriented people's GOLDEN RULE form of TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.
Children, adolescents, adults ... just about everyone has heard these gentle, but firm, admonitions for proper conduct toward others.
So ... yes, darkness reigns at this point. It is a thick and gooey melange of murderousness, monstrousness, in-your-face selfishness, self-servingness, and greediness, deliberate violence, and etcetera, all violating what we all have been taught or learned. Thus it is just a matter of giving in to personal wantings, weakness, fear and committing acts one knows are WRONG ... and doing this CONSCIOUSLY ... unless you are one of the millions of conscienceless psychopaths running around the earth--with too many holding powerful positions--and then you could care less who you hurt.
But there are enough non-psychopaths in powerful positions to object, to deter, to expose, to do it differently, and so forth. But there obviously is a CONSCIOUS choice not to.
The United States of America is in a terminal condition.
As one commenter--Pitchfork--quoted and then stated a few days ago: that our government exists by "the consent of the governed," and he then said, "I withdraw my consent," I join him now.
I withdraw my consent from this rotting body that calls itself the government of the United States, and I say that with all Conscience and Consciousness. This government is no longer worthy of my loyalty or my allegiance.
peace and strength to you, Sioux Rose
/cm
THEY don't give a crap about your consent, allegiance, loyalty or honor. They only want your friggin $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
angryoldman - The point is I give a crap who is worthy of my allegiance and loyalty, and that has to do with my honor, not theirs.
Having stated what I did, my heart feels a heckava' lot cleaner and at peace.
I've had enough of the hypocrisy of too many for too long, especially from those who claim to represent me and my interests. And I can assure you that my interests do not include killing babies, leveling towns and cities, and starving people by either taking or destroying everything they have.
My interests do not include torturing people in the most grisly of ways, especially for an event that clearly was an inside job with trails of paper and other evidence leading to a select few in my own government whose interests were to make war on others for their own monetary interests.
My interests do not include supporting mealy-mouthed cowards who dare not speak out because of their own positions or money or whatever.
My interests do not include supporting those who support an Israel whose government has been for a long time an abomination to anything that remotely resembles decency and honor. Perhaps Mr. Obama should send as a gift a newly commissioned, huge Golden Calf to adorn a Jerusalem hillside. I would support that as fitting. And maybe another one for Wall Street and The Federal Reserve too.
My interests do not include supporting thieves and shysters who invent economic programs and fiscal policies for their own benefit and rob my countrymen/women of their livelihoods, their savings and their homes.
My interests do not include supporting corporate thieves and shysters whose profits take precedence over safe medicines, necessary health care, clean air, clean water, the natural environment, and so forth.
It's enough now. And perhaps, angryoldman, if enough people declared the withdrawal of their consent to this current Federal government and its crappy behavior, and did everything they could to not support it, not cooperate with it, not fund it, not go to war for it, and found other ways to live, work, build, invent within their communities and their current environments on a cooperative basis, we might have an impact.
But it's enough for me to say, Not In My Name anymore. And again, that has to do with my Honor as a Human Being.
"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people [in this instance, one person] to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of [hu]mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. [Please see above comment for a partial list.]
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all [wo]men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, GOVERNMENTS ARE INSTITUTED AMONG [WO]MEN, DERIVING THEIR JUST POWERS FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, -- That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. ..."
[Sounds like a REFERENDUM would be possible, just like the one forced on Hugo Chavez when a coups was attempted with our C.I.A. involvement after he was elected President of Venezuela. He agreed and he was re-elected.]
peace, cm
Well said, Cee Miracles. Here's a toast to three women (cm, sr and pf) who have withdrawn their consent and "with a decent respect to the opinions of [hu]mankind... have declared the causes." May it catch on. May Washington someday tremble.
Pitch Fork [Sorry I got the spelling and gender wrong.]
Read the May 11, 2009, issue of TIME magazine, devoted to the Top 100 of "The World's Most Influential People."
In the "10 Questions" weekly segment highlighting a celebrity or V.I.P., Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia, Africa's first female Head of State, answered this question from a TIME reader [Meskerem Sertse of Geneva]:
"Do you think Africa will be peaceful and war-free if it has more women in leadership positions"?
President Ellen Sirleaf's answer:
"I have no doubt about that. I think when women have equal qualifications, experience, capacities, they bring to the task a certain dimension that may be missing in men--a sensitivity to humankind. Maybe it comes from being a mother."
Maybe it comes from being a female who uses both sides of her brain in a wholistic manner, integrating both reason and emotion, and also the biological system of women, and those two very strong female X-X chromosomes as opposed to the X-Y of men, with studies showing that the Y chromosome is seriously weakening.
Being a mother at a young age most often immediately grows up a girl. No longer does one or can one just think for and about one's self. Having to respond to and anticipate the needs of another vulnerable human being, and then often another and another, gives a dimension to women that very few men duplicate easily. Happily, in the last decades, many more husband's/partners and fathers in this country are participating actively in the care of their babies and growing children.
Studies have shown that when there are 50 per cent [or thereabouts] women on planning boards, and the like, at the community to national level [although that gender balance is still rare], the emphasis always transmutes to services to the people and finding ways for diverse groups to find common ground and cooperate with and help each other.
Just finished my early morning readings on a variety of sites, and I can only conclude that it's a toss-up between the United States and Israel and who is more paranoid, who is concentrating more on taking out real or imagined ENEMIES, who is sending more messages to the population TO BE AFRAID, TO BE VERY AFRAID, who is planning more ways with more methods to monitor, to defend, to attack. I cannot anymore fathom the money, energy and time devoted to destruction of The Other when so many basic needs of the national and global populations continue to go unmet.
Of course, there's MEGA MONEY to be made from constantly programming a society TO BE AFRAID ... TO BE VERY AFRAID. "The Axis of Evil," "The Fanatical Muslim Fundamentalists," "The Terrorists," all of whom will be over-running the Brooklyn Bridge before you can say, "Jack Sprat can eat no fat; his wife can eat no lean. ..." or "9-11 was an Inside Job."
Truly, using a popular expression from when the Brooklyn Dodgers were called Da' Bums, and the fans or the opposing team's fans got heated about a particular baseball play outcome, the stadium stands would reverberate with T'ROW DA' BUMS OUT!
Withdrawing "our consent," Pitch Fork can "catch on" with some committed work and dedication, and maybe then T'ROW DA' BUMS OUT! will become a Jeffersonian reality.
peace, cm
Sioux Rose
CEE MIRACLES: So powerfully articulated, my friend, your post moved me to tears. You lay it out, every nuance of it. I wonder if your words should become a FULL PAGE AD in a major newspaper (presuming the Washington Post would print it!) if enough of us got the money together to fund it, and we signed our names! I am with you on all of it. I would add that the entertainment/media and porn "industry" are also doing their parts to massage the public libido and/or dumb down its consciousness (and conscience) so that a lot of people either do not realize what's being done in their names or care to find out.
We are feeling the moon grow to fullness in Scorpio, the sign of death and rebirth, of the scorpion's sting that can lead to eventual transformation. I suppose that's why the metaphor of cancer and the idea to remedy the toxic condition of the nation came to me so intensely.
Peace and strength to you, too, and all those who fight for peace, justice, sacred ecology and a greater understanding among persons, each a traveler of one of the 12 Divine paths, potentially.
Many possibilities, Sioux Rose. Thanks for your suggestion and your response.
I'm starting to cook again because Enough is Enough now. This constant VIOLENCE against ALL MY RELATIONS has got to stop.
Someone suggested pamphlets a few essays back, and of course, there is nothing more powerful than the Internet itself.
Perhaps time to connect and share some thoughts off board.
Anyone else interested in some brain-storming:
miracleyes1sd@aol.com
[... and anyone interested in spying, hacking, tapping phones, my response is always the same: GET A LIFE!]
peace, cm
The darkest hours are before the dawn.
Perhaps the awakening we need can only happen after things grow so dark we finally realize the course we pursue is truly WRONG.
Is it just me or is this just another DUMBSHOW once again in the Senate? I mean, maybe I don't know the Senate completely well but when they take so long to investigate until, as SiouxRose points out, the cancer has spread and is no longer treatable, I have gone beyond losing faith. Sorry to sound so fidgety about this but something tells me that it's just another phoney PR stunt. The only cure I see is abolishing the Pentagon and divesting these military contractors completely and returning all the taxpayer money back to the taxpayers.
Just to re-post what I said earlier........
Once again, a smoke and mirrors sub-committee to calm the angry (but not angry enough) masses. "It's a tale, told by some idiots...full of sound and fury...signifying nothing but appeasement.....apologies for the paraphrase, WS....
Sioux Rose
JENNIFER: I am not a facts-checker type but there have been an estimated 1.2 trillion unaccounted for that "got lost" in Iraq. Then the no bid contracts, even when a whistleblower (a female public servant whose name escapes me) tried to expose the goings on. Corruption is so deep, and it's not like the warning that "the LOVE of MONEY is the ROOT of all EVIL" has not been long with us; but once the lobbyists took over D.C. we could kiss any SEMBLANCE of decency or ethical business protocols good-bye. As my daughter says, "that ship sailed a long time ago."
Anyone else think Cee Miracle's impassioned post ought to be a full page ad in a prominent paper? Maybe we could get luminaries like Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, some Hollywood gliterati to sign on and help with funding?
SIOUX,
I thought it was a great idea. If enough people here would like to go with it, count me in!
That truly was an awe-inspiring post, CEE MIRACLES.
Peace,
John
The Senate and the War Industry have a very close relationship. Only question: who's the bottom and who's the top?
Joe
Can't say, but I do know that We the People are the ones being royally screwed!
I like the picture but it’s incomplete. Senate and War Industry are screwing.......America!
America is hijacked by a handful of ‘Good Men’. Treason and subversion have a new name. Read the links below and you will see who’s behind the curtain. The two documents are NOT just another conspiracy theory; they are lengthy and very well referenced. They will change the way you look at history, politics, finance, war and terrorism. You will find out about real terrorism. Many persons in these documents are well known; many are right now in pivotal positions of politics and finance. These people do shape YOUR life and that of our children right now. The details are researched and referenced. The consequences are beyond belief.
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/9442970/Collateral-Damage-US-Covert-Operations-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-200128062008
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9421535/Collateral-Damage-Part-2-The-Subprime-Crisis-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-200126122008
Yachtie - Takes your breath away. I felt sick for a month.
Here's a shorter link that accesses the above and a few more:
www.scribd.com/people/documents/2169400-ep-heidner
peace, cm
Gee whiz-- durn my cynicism, but I wonder if the document sent by the senators is actually a letter of intent to acquire a piece of the action.
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I am also in to funding a full page ad. I am also sick of a government that no longer functions for the people. We all have the right to change or abolish a government that no longer serves the people. So when are we gonna start the abolishing process? I've been ready and waiting...
Voting doesn't help. Mike Rupert once said that a good effective way to change things is to stop putting your money in big national banks. Better to bank locally. Do some research on local banks and see where their money is invested. It should be invested locally and serve the local community. Also, by produce from local farms.
Anyway, I just wanted to vent and express my thoughts.
How many Whores of Congress are there? Let me count the ways....I hate what has happened to our country with these people. How many dollars has Pelosi gained for her support of AIPAC? How many dollars have all our Congressmen gained from AIPAC? Do we have any autonomy? I think not! Israel before us!
Israel with its paltry 5 million inhabitants! Houston and its environs has more inhabitants! Let all of the non-Jews in Israel...
50,000 per year ain't bad...from Russia immigrate to the U.S.! Soon, there won't be any Israelis left in Israel!
But I hate the fact that 50,000 "Israelis" from Russia, Kazars and every other race, can claim anti-semitic status, even though they never had had anything to do with real Jews anywhere in the world.
I am American Indian and naturally, I am Jewish! Protect me! AIPAC, where are you? Of course, we, per the Mormans, are descended from Jews!
Let me commit Japanese suicide now! It's better than living in this stupid world of Zionists!