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Obama Answers Liberal Critics on Personnel Choices
WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama, rejecting liberals' criticism of his emerging cabinet, today strongly defended his decision to choose more experienced, centrist aides for his inner circle, arguing that the nation needs sure hands in a time of turmoil -- and that it's his job to bring the change he promised voters.
US President-elect Barack Obama speaks as he presents his choices for his newly formed Economic Recovery Advisory Board during a news conference in Chicago November 26, 2008. Paul Volcker (L), 81, will be the chair of the panel and Austan Goolsbee (not pictured) will serve as its staff director. (Jeff Haynes - UNITED STATES/Reuters) At a press conference to introduce his economic advisory board,
Obama said it would send the wrong message to the nation if he stocked
his cabinet with newcomers, especially given the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan and the deepening economic crisis. Veterans, he said, bring
the wisdom to help him shape his agenda and the know-how to execute it.
"What we are going to do is combine experience with fresh thinking," he said in his most detailed comments on the issue. "But I understand where the vision for change comes from. First and foremost, it comes from me. That's my job -- to provide a vision in terms of where we are going, and to make sure then that my team is implementing."
Seeking to reassure supporters worried that he's "recycling" appointees from President Clinton's era, Obama suggested it is unrealistic to expect him to bypass the best people available simply because of ties to the last Democratic administration.
However, liberal activists contend that Obama so far has gone too far in one direction, bringing in too many of the same Washington insiders and undermining his own message of change. Obama, they complain, hasn't given a top cabinet job to a true liberal, and grumble about the expected appointments of rival Hillary Clinton -- a centrist Democrat -- as Obama's secretary of state and of Robert M. Gates, a Republican appointed by President Bush, to stay on as defense secretary for at least a year.
"I'm not in the camp that says, 'Give him a chance, because his vision will dominate,' " said Tom Hayden cq, a high-profile liberal and antiwar activist who said he supports Obama despite misgivings over his cabinet picks. "I don't know what he's doing. This is not governing from the center. This is governing from the past."
Liberal bloggers, who helped fuel Obama's grassroots fund-raising and volunteer armies, are particularly vocal in their critique of Obama's choices so far.
Some of them argue that competence and experience aren't substitutes for the right ideology. "How can selecting only pro-war Cabinet members and advisers be justified on the grounds of 'competence' -- as though one's support for the War has nothing to do with competence?" asks blogger Glenn Greenwald, who also writes for the online journal Salon.
Since he was elected three weeks ago, Obama has tapped several people who worked for President Clinton, including Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff and Lawrence Summers as his senior economic adviser. Reports say that the president-elect has settled on at least two other Clinton-era officials -- Eric Holder for attorney general and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson for commerce secretary.
Criticism of Obama's personnel picks, however, intensified when word leaked out that he will select Clinton as secretary of state. Antiwar activists decried her vote in favor of the 2003 Iraq invasion, which Obama hammered her about during the Democratic primaries. And after reports Tuesday that Obama would keep Gates at the Pentagon, some suggested it could mean Obama was reconsidering a campaign pledge to withdraw US combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office.
But Larry Sabato, a political analyst at the University of Virginia, warned against drawing premature conclusions about any shifts in position. "Let's wait and see the identity of the entire team," he said in an interview.
Liberals who are most upset by the cabinet picks may have had unrealistic expectations about what an Obama presidency would look like, he said, especially "the ones who have been there from the beginning."
Obama, Sabato said, "is also trying to be pragmatic under very difficult circumstances. Frankly, I never believed he was a superliberal. He's got to do what he thinks is right. Everyone needs to keep in mind that he's inheriting a bloody disaster."- Posted in



87 Comments so far
Show AllBy nominating his neocon, militarist and conservative corporatist extremists to his cabinet, Bush was extremely successful in pushing through his agenda.
Obama could learn from it that to push his agenda he needs to surround himself with like minds.
The frightening part is that maybe he has.
"Obama could learn from it that to push his agenda he needs to surround himself with like minds."
Okay, but look at the result of what "like minds" have wrought.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Obama is picking people with the toughness and experience to get things done. We should be more supportive of his choices. The way I see it, we (the people who support Obama) are like foot soldiers in a nonviolent war for revolutionary change. Like any good soldier, I must trust my commander. Obama is my commander (in-chief) and I trust him. Okay, so here's the tricky part. In a war, it is not the duty of a foot-soldier to develop the entire strategy for the war, nor is it the duty of a foot soldier to decide what orders to obey and which to disobey. No war could be won by an army governed by anarchy.
In this war, (against radical Right-wing government and social forces) it is up to Obama to craft a winning strategy, not us - the disorganized rabble. When we judge his strategy in a negative light, our criticism is ignorant, because we do not know what his full strategy entails. Keep in mind, it would be foolish, in a state of war, to simply divulge what that strategy is. So we must have faith in Obama and trust him. If we want change (and I know I do) then we must trust him, even when we feel we can't. We must see beyond our fears, and remember that sometimes it is more important to follow than to try to lead. The Left does not need more wannabe leaders and more petty infighting. It's like each of us has a piece of a puzzle, but only Obama can put the pieces together to create an image for our future.
" It's like each of us has a piece of a puzzle, but only Obama can put the pieces together to create an image for our future."
What most people I have spoken to expect is stability. If this can be accomplished in the 44th President's first term than he will have accomplished more than I would expect of him.
Joe, I have said this many times before; You can do nothing for a sick patient until that patient's condition has been stabilized.
Dante, I agree.
It is imperative that Obama stabilize our out-of-control wars and empire.
"What most people I have spoken to expect is stability."
While I don't necessarily expect it, I am hoping very much for it.
If he can do this, my vote will not have been wasted. If he can do more, my vote will have been vindicated. If he can do everything everyone wants in a flawless manner, my vote will be hailed by progressives everywhere. Well...two out of three ain't bad.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
"If he can do everything everyone wants in a flawless manner, my vote will be hailed by progressives everywhere. Well...two out of three ain't bad."
(LOL) I hear you Ted. Loud and clear. Lets us just just get things under control and perhaps you will get two out of three. Three out of three? It could never happen. Once he gave me everything I wanted I would be criticizing him for not giving me more. (smiling) I am sure that there are many more like me out there. (lol)
Take care Ted
"Once he gave me everything I wanted I would be criticizing him for not giving me more."
At least, unlike most Obama-haters, you are willing to admit your irrationality.
There is never any end to the wish list Joe. No matter what President-elect Obama does he will always be criticized for what he didn't do. The same would apply to any President. (Even, Ralph, Dennis,Cynthia and, etc. etc. etc.)
This President-elect has already created change. He has forever changed the way Americans see themselves and the way the world views America. That in itself is positive change.
Dante
Excellent point!
"At least, unlike most Obama-haters, you are willing to admit your irrationality."
Joe,
Be careful with the over-the-top stuff. There is plenty of good, constructive criticism aimed at Obama from those who voted for him and even some from those who didn't. That does not equate with Obama-hating.
The rants about him not walking on water...now, that's another matter.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Follow the leader? That's a schoolkids game.
If you don't care about Obama's decisions and will not question them, then why do you bother writing here?
Most of us don't think citizenship means holding one's tongue. I don't think Obama even believes in your "just follow orders" prescription.
You aren't writing satire, are you?
-TIA
Of course I care what Obama does. I'm just suggesting that if you voted for Obama, why not try to part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Over the next 100 days Obama will be facing down Republicans, extremists, racists, and G*d know who else. He doesn't need attacks from his progressive base as well.
I think there is a difference between constructive criticism and Obama-bashing. Very few of the anti-Obama types have anything helpful to say. But I'm not saying that Obama doesn't want our input. Quite the opposite. He will listen. But because he will listen to us, because he will not ignore us, we shouldn't be a thorn in his side. Maybe a time will come when we should "hold hid feet to the fire", but maybe it won't, for now our job should be to support him. He needs our help. We can't expect him to accomplish everything on his own. If we begin marching in the street before he even takes office, won't that distract from his mandate? Won't it make it seem like he doesn't have the support of the public? If we want to see the Iraq war end, if we want to see the prisoners of Guantanamo freed, then shouldn't we shut up for at least a little while?
I know that sounds extreme, but I don't mean it to be. I think it's actually just commonsense pragmatism. For example, let's admit that the folks here on CD are the political equivalent of Rev. Wright. In other words, if Obama is Superman, then Wright was kryptonite, and now the Left is as well. It's a classic case of guilt by association. The question is, do you really think Obama could have won without distancing himself from Wright? Obviously not. So why do think it's any different now? If the Left really cares about change (which I'm starting to doubt) then we need to set our egos aside (something Nader could never do) and do what's best for the country. Idealism shouldn't be an excuse to lose every battle.
As for me, I have no personal conflicts, I pretty much agree with everything Obama is doing. Therefore I have no qualms about following his leadership. I'm amazed that you act like it is such a vile thing to follow a leader. Did you accuse MLK's followers of the same thing? Or Gandhi's followers? In your eyes, were the nurses employed by Mother Teresa just mindless automatons? Is this how you view our brave men and woman of the armed forces? Are they just playing "a schoolkids game"?
How's this? If at any point Obama does something I profoundly disagree with (not a minor transgression) then, of course, I'll become more critical. But right now we have a mess to clean up. So maybe I'll worry about seeking the "perfect" leader in 2016.
There's a difference between following a civilian leader who has articulated his policy, and making comparisons to "foot soldiers" and "trusting" a commander.
Those who have created the mess will be living a form of penance, if you will. They will be there as the majority of the electorate continue to pressure and push while the effects of the bloddy mess will come home to roost with the only alternative being profound change. Our work has only just begun.
Agreed, though, I'm not sure anyone is going to serve any penance. Ideologues don't do penance.
I especially agree that our work has only just begun. Whether Obama is a pragmatist or a sellout (depending on the mood), our energy is needed, maybe as never before.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
I don't know what he is doing but I don't have to know. If he doesn't clean up this mess we are all screwed. I'm hoping against hope that HE knows what he is doing.
I seem to recall that somewhere in the news conference, Obama said something about if he had appointed someone from out side the belt-way, MSM would be all
over the appointees re, their "lack of experience" Before we condemn Obama for
his choices, lets see what the first 100 brings.
If President Elect Obama was good on his promises, he would bring back all the Generals who were against the Invasion of Iraq.....He would name one of them Secretary of Defense......and that would be a clear message on his "Promise" to remove the soldiers from Iraq......
He is playing the "Pragmatist Game" which means Troops will remain in Iraq for three years plus and the U.S. Treasury can not handle 150,000 soldiers and 140,000 mercenaries fighting a non-productive occupancy of another country...........
We are now seeing the results of that Invasion, terrorists, not belonging to Al Qaeda, are willing to commit "criminal acts of violence against civilian populations out of: anger, hate, or revenge.
Too bad that the President Elect has advisers like Zbigniew Brzezinski who helped create the Islamic Militant Force and said, "Which would you rather have as an enemy the Soviet Union or the Taliban."
Bring back General Shinseki!
Well said! Let's work together to help Obama, not sabotage him.
Why would the mainstream media's opinion matter, since Obama is now the president elect? I'm not sure why this makes sense to you.
If Obama proposed this as a reason for picking old-guard corporatists, it seems to imply cowardice, not bold leadership.
-TIA
Nader was right...Business as usual, the corporatists win again and the wars will continue...what a huge farce!
I hope all you Obamaniacs are happy!
Competent militarists are what the country needs, huh? I'm amazed at so-called liberals who ask that such competence be given a chance. Competence or incompetence cannot be divorced from the policy to which it is attached.
It may work out differently, but, as of now, all the fine words and promises Obama offered during his campaign seem destined to be revealed as the shallow, unsubstantial appeasement they were. Of course, Bush et al will control the financial debacle even as those from Reagan onward engineered the looting. It doesn't seem likely that, after Jan 20, much different is likely to unfold...except perhaps in degree of severity and hardship and panic. Nor does it seem likely that Obama will behave differently than what, at the core, he is: an apologist and facilitator of of militaristic and corporate interests.
It's all about money and the attendant power, and Obama isn't immune to these intoxicants just because he talks a good game. Expect issues like resource depletion (peak oil) and climate change to be quietly shoved to the background as the money crisis intensifies. Say nothing of health care, education, infrastructure and those social niceities we like so much. The times, indeed, are changing, and I fear, like ezeflyer, that the changes will be ones we won't much like.
Many Obama apologists are rich. I say make some bets about what the 100 days will bring and squeeze some money out of his faithful supporters when they are proven wrong.
And if the naysayers are wrong
then can be glad about Obama even as they have to start a charity fund to pay off the bet.
:)
I am always surprised that people actually believed in a mainstream politician. He must be a better pr man than what I observed or felt. To me, he was a slick politician.
The very fact that there is so much discussion and shock that it turns out his campaign promises may have been false--What is that about? When have people become so naive? When did people begin to believe campaign dreck?
I personally believe it appears to be a cult-like situation going on here. Maybe "Change we can believe in" was just such a great slogan, that people couldn't help but believe. I think he is right out of central casting. But maybe that is my own issue. Who knows.
When have people become so naive?
Speaking only for myself, I was, I am, desperate and scared but not naive. And if Obama turns out to be a shlub and I wasted my vote and got scammed again . . . it won't be the first time.
it has been a pleasure to come to commondreams in recent month, did i find you all late? and read about how horrible barack obama is. the idea that he is good in any way was so adroitly refuted here, thank goodness. ralph nader for hope and change in 2012.
Ralph will be 78 years old in 2012
"strongly defended his decision to choose more experienced, centrist aides for his inner circle, arguing that the nation needs sure hands in a time of turmoil"
Again, why are these people being billed as "centrist" when they're anything but? Sure, they may not be as far right as the neo-cons, but they're close enough.
So he's going for "experience" is he? Experience in what? Promoting Empire! Globalization! Corporatization! In other words, the same Clinton Era bastards that set the stage for BushCo.
Go here to see where your senators lie on the political spectrum. http://www.politicalcompass.org/usstates
And look here to see where the 2008 candidates lie.
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
As you can see... there IS NO CENTRISTS!
Since he's so big on experience, why didn't he just appoint Bush's current cabinet and then kick back to enjoy The Big Turkey he has created....
If he doesn't clean up this mess we are all screwed.
Yeah, clean up the mess so the top 1% can continue the Song & Dance while the rest of us
99 per centers pay the piper. The only tune this band can play is being written in Tel Aviv.
Obama is simply following the dictates of the corporations that financed his campaign. The notion that Obama is a progressive is belied by the reactionaries that are filling his advisory posts. The only change going on in Washington is that a different group of corporations will be calling the shots.
He is just another con artist that has sucked in desparate voters hoping for enlightemed leadership. How sad this nation's future is!
what corporations are different. you say 'they' will be calling the shots. I guess you mean as opposed to exxon-'mobile', general dynamics, chrysler and dean whitter. who are the different ones? arizona
What ever gave you the idea that Obama was a liberal or progressive - maybe the GOP.
The Democrats and Republicans are a club. Maybe different factions but part of the same club - the American oligarchs.
The oligarchs represent less than 1% of the American population and they rule the country for their benefit.
Why else were new bankruptcy laws introduced a year ago. Why else was outsourcing the new cost reduction corporate strategy.
It's time to have a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
Still rather have Obama than McCain. It's premature to bash him until he actually takes power. If nothing changes after Jan 21st, I'll be bashing him, but not before.
Judah,
All Presidents get bashed.
Obama isn't president yet. Give it a couple months.
"If nothing changes after Jan 21st, I'll be bashing him, but not before."
Judah,
I agree with you. He will not be President until Jan.20th 2009 but the point I was trying to make is that all Presidents get bashed. There will always be opposition forces standing in disagreement with any President's decisions. That is Democracy.
I never did trust the guy, but I thought that at least he would be easier to watch and listen to than that bumbling mumbling brush-wacker Bush, but after only three weeks I have to shut off the tv or radio when he starts articulating his neoconniving lies.
Keep in mind this guy is a politician. That is all you need to know. They all are bought and sold by the corporations.
While many progressives laughed at the idea that Obama was one of us, most supporters actually bought into the idea that he WOULD implement real change.
Their projection was that given the opportunity, Obama would move away from the disastrous policies of the last SEVERAL presidents. And, yes, dear Dems, you can't get away from the reality that Clinton's crew destroyed some of the last remaining regulations when he signed Glass-Steigel's end. Many who then circled around Clinton, now circle around Obama. YES, we need to be OUTRAGED.
Is it too much to ask that there be SOME additions to the team that signal CHANGE? I don't think so.
Let's try a Paul Krugman in the economic team! Let's add a Robert Kennedy Jr. to the EPA! Let's see SOMEBODY who is not a direct link into the past. If we are talking about needing people with experience, how about choosing those with a DIFFERENT experience--those who were NOT a part of the past failures. ###
"Let's try a Paul Krugman in the economic team!"
I like Paul Krugman, but think on this: Just before the bank bailout, Krugman made the circuit saying that we needed to go slow and decide whether it was really necessary and how much to spend...etc. Then just the other day I heard him saying: "More! Release more money and fast!"
Now, I'm not trying to second guess Krugman - he's way smarter than I. However, I point this out because as he has realized, things are really, really, FUBAR. Things are bad. If Krugman needs to realign his thinking on this one aspect of the economy, just imagine what Obama needs to realign with regards to...everything - the economy, geo-politics, global warming, terrorism, war...everything!
Then, put yourself in his shoes and think if you could even hold in your bowels let alone trying to keep the world from flying apart.
"All Nature's difference keeps all Nature's peace." Alexander Pope
Like Krugman, I'm a numbers man. I can look at a chart and it speaks to me. The charts these days are SCREAMING! I never imagined such things. The situation is out of control.
I think it doesn't make a whole lot of difference whom is appointed. My prediction is that the centrist thing won't work out and the whole shebang will collapse. Centrism will be discredited and the US will either turn left or go Nazi.
BUT the centrist tack is the right way to go. It has to be tried. Besides, life in the US revolves around business and finance. There is no other center of power, at all. No labor, no independent media, no nothing. The collapse of business and finance has only begun so their power is still at its peak. Wait three years and you will see an entirely different USA.
The US isn't going to be able to afford its military aggression, they will be forced to stop wasting money on health care, and the public's lust for blood will be slaked with the heads of those responsible.
Baraka
The real test is not in who he chooses but in how his choices are used. For example if he continues to sustain health care as a commodity by supporting the insurance industry I will turn on him and his administration. I believe he's the smartest pup in the litter but I want to see him hunt.
Until he takes office all this is posturing when he makes the decisions we will see how he is made. I want to discover a great president not just some one better than Bush. I have a dog at home better than Bush, what we need is a great President. These times and the 20 years of incompetence since Regan (including Clinton) is not in the right direction. We (I) want our country back from the corporate oligarchy that has been robbing us and has proven unethical and incompetent.
Do you not know that Barack once supported NATIONAL SINGLE PAYER
HEALTH CARE and abandoned that position. Basically, all we have to
do is end the age restrictions on Medicare.
Like many others who want to ignore the fork in the road and the
path Barack has SHOWN us he has chosen ... who he choss to walk
with is what does matter.
We have a weath of talented, intelligent people and even leaders who
have already proven themselves in regard to many of these issues.
We need progressive leaders at the head of government now --
NOT DLC'ers and neo-con left-overs who support war for profit.
"According to all myth, the female - not the male -- gives life"
It would seem that the transformational nature of a leader is lost on many of the posters here. It is the job of a transformational leader to choose people to implement his vision based on the best available pool of people. Perhaps the liberals who post here could pick someone that they know who has the experience or wisdom to get us out of the current economic crisis or the two front war we are currently in based on their personal knowledge of economics, finance, Washington politics, corporate strategy, or Constitutional law? For all my knowledge of political animals, I cannot think of one that would satisfy the left side of the Democratic Party or serve the American people. The ones we think would be good, have had and continue to have the good sense to stay out of Washington. Consider who has refused to serve this President already, then consider that if you think they are so great and not self-serving, ask them why they refuse to serve the American People. A transformational leader provides the vision, lets others implement it with guidance so that the vision is not lost. Until January 20th, President-ELECT Obama can only make appointments, share his vision and direction with them, and then expect them to follow through under his control. In addition, he is trying to create calm in the economic markets and public sector, while waiting to see what garbage BushCo is actually leaving him to deal with in light of the undisclosed Iraq agreement (its an agreement so it does not need Congressional approval like a treaty), Paulson's continued trashing of the economy, and hundreds of other signing statements, executive orders, and other secret actions by Cheney and others. So cut him some slack, let him lead and guide. He has a vision of a better America and it is up to us to help him create it, not just demand instant results on a platter before he even has the power to deliver any of it at all.
We're following your lead, so tell us when you think it would be a convenient time to object.
-TIA