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Americans are angry at Wall Street, and rightly so. First the financial industry plunged us into economic crisis, then it was bailed out at taxpayer expense. And now, with the economy still deeply depressed, the industry is paying itself gigantic bonuses. If you aren’t outraged, you haven’t been paying attention.
But crashing the economy and fleecing the taxpayer aren’t Wall Street’s only sins. Even before the crisis and the bailouts, many financial-industry high-fliers made fortunes through activities that were worthless if not destructive from a social point of view.
And they’re still at it. Consider two recent news stories.
One involves the rise of high-speed trading: some institutions, including Goldman Sachs, have been using superfast computers to get the jump on other investors, buying or selling stocks a tiny fraction of a second before anyone else can react. Profits from high-frequency trading are one reason Goldman is earning record profits and likely to pay record bonuses.
On a seemingly different front, Sunday’s Times reported on the case of Andrew J. Hall, who leads an arm of Citigroup that speculates on oil and other commodities. His operation has made a lot of money recently, and according to his contract Mr. Hall is owed $100 million.
What do these stories have in common?
The politically salient answer, for now at least, is that in both cases we’re looking at huge payouts by firms that were major recipients of federal aid. Citi has received around $45 billion from taxpayers; Goldman has repaid the $10 billion it received in direct aid, but it has benefited enormously both from federal guarantees and from bailouts of other financial institutions. What are taxpayers supposed to think when these welfare cases cut nine-figure paychecks?
But suppose we grant that both Goldman and Mr. Hall are very good at what they do, and might have earned huge profits even without all that aid. Even so, what they do is bad for America.
Just to be clear: financial speculation can serve a useful purpose. It’s good, for example, that futures markets provide an incentive to stockpile heating oil before the weather gets cold and stockpile gasoline ahead of the summer driving season.
But speculation based on information not available to the public at large is a very different matter. As the U.C.L.A. economist Jack Hirshleifer showed back in 1971, such speculation often combines “private profitability” with “social uselessness.”
It’s hard to imagine a better illustration than high-frequency trading. The stock market is supposed to allocate capital to its most productive uses, for example by helping companies with good ideas raise money. But it’s hard to see how traders who place their orders one-thirtieth of a second faster than anyone else do anything to improve that social function.
What about Mr. Hall? The Times report suggests that he makes money mainly by outsmarting other investors, rather than by directing resources to where they’re needed. Again, it’s hard to see the social value of what he does.
And there’s a good case that such activities are actually harmful. For example, high-frequency trading probably degrades the stock market’s function, because it’s a kind of tax on investors who lack access to those superfast computers — which means that the money Goldman spends on those computers has a negative effect on national wealth. As the great Stanford economist Kenneth Arrow put it in 1973, speculation based on private information imposes a “double social loss”: it uses up resources and undermines markets.
Now, you might be tempted to dismiss destructive speculation as a minor issue — and 30 years ago you would have been right. Since then, however, high finance — securities and commodity trading, as opposed to run-of-the-mill banking — has become a vastly more important part of our economy, increasing its share of G.D.P. by a factor of six. And soaring incomes in the financial industry have played a large role in sharply rising income inequality.
What should be done? Last week the House passed a bill setting rules for pay packages at a wide range of financial institutions. That would be a step in the right direction. But it really should be accompanied by much broader regulation of financial practices — and, I would argue, by higher tax rates on supersized incomes.
Unfortunately, the House measure is opposed by the Obama administration, which still seems to operate on the principle that what’s good for Wall Street is good for America.
Neither the administration, nor our political system in general, is ready to face up to the fact that we’ve become a society in which the big bucks go to bad actors, a society that lavishly rewards those who make us poorer.




58 Comments so far
Show AllHardly surprising, considering the big jobs in the administration and politics go to bad actors.
What you said!
"Americans are angry at Wall Street..."
So what? Is Wall Street filled with protesters? Are we pulling our money out of the Big Banks en masse? Dumping Big Bank stocks? No, no and no.
If I were a bankster, I'd be laughing my ass off at what passes for 'anger' nowadays. What they see is a passive populace getting fatter, dumber and lazier by the day.
And, you know what? I'd steal from us too if I knew that the only consequence I faced were blog rants and the occasional, inconsequential op-ed.
We are truly pathetic...
Damn RichM, just when I wanted to disagree with you because it was Monday....you go and write something like this!
"Both the Bush administration last year and the Obama administration today are the political servants of this corrupt, parasitic social layer. It was to protect the interests of a few hundred billionaires and a few thousand Wall Street bankers and traders that Democrats and Republicans joined forces last year to push through the $700 billion bailout, the first in a series of raids on the Treasury which have mortgaged the entire resources of the country to the financial oligarchy..."
Oh well.....maybe Tuesday?
Ah-Ha....but you agreed with it! Got you there!!!!
Agreeing with socialists now? That's a big change for you :-)
There nothing at all wrong with a good socialist. They have some good ideas!
I'm surprised at you zmann, attacking the poor ole socialists. I know you are a big GWB fan, but.....(LOL)
Ugh, I must now slash my wrists. Slander of the highest order!
Hold that knife! I admit that was slander. I'm ashamed I even for a moment linked you name with slime and bottom bumps.
My apologies! Mea Culpea! Checks in the mail for the slander!!!
Hate to say it, but you are pathetic, frank. On the one hand you are rightly angry at the situation, but then you say that you would steal from 'us' too because we deserve it. It's the lack of fairness (call it morality if you like) that was replaced with the 'bottom line' mentality of the Reagan years that has gotten us into this in the first place.
By admitting that you would steal too if you had the chance you are subscribing to capitalism, and yes, you, and we, are truly pathetic.
RichM, actually I was going to tease frank and ask him if he was being funny. I did suspect he was being tongue-in-cheek.
Some, in their justified outrage, forget their sense of humor. I laugh at the most egregious Wall Street behavior, although my humor draws the line at mistreatment of the voiceless.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
While I agree with your (and Frank's) politics, I believe that the issue of morality is no small point. I wasn't attacking Frank (well, maybe a little) I was just trying to point out that without morality politics, no matter how 'correct', is useless. Case in point, the Soviet Union was originally based on Marxist principles, but there was very little morality involved. The Soviet Union very quickly became a totalitarian state just as monstrous as Nazi Germany if not more so. On the other hand, many of the founding fathers (such as Jefferson) had some very good and noble ideas. They also owned slaves. The United States is the result of genocide and slavery, used to feather the nests of the very people you abhor. We haven't grown into an Oligarchy of corporate war merchants and corrupt banker barons by accident. The direction of our country was decided from the very beginning, when slavery was allowed and the policy of 'getting rid' of the pesky indigenous peoples was developed.
By the way, I started voting occasionally about 15 years ago, always independent. I'm a socialist, and consider both the Dems and the Repugs aspects of the same capitalist system. What I would really like to see is a revolution. That's not likely but you never know. As the United States sinks into the morass of third world poverty, anything could happen.
Goldman Sachs’ Amazingly Low Tax Rate...1% !
by Adam Sharp, bearishnews.com
Goldman got $10 billion in taxpayer cash in 2008, plus loan guarantees. Yet according to Bloomberg, they only paid $14 million taxes on $2.3 billion in profits. Their effective tax rate went from 34% in 2007 to just 1% in 2008. How’d they do it? Tax credits and, here’s the key “Changes in geographic earnings mix“.
Meaning: Cayman Islands.
“With the right hand out begging for bailout money, the left is hiding it offshore.”, Lloyd Doggett-TX D said.
Full and unedited at:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a6bQVsZS2_18&refer=news
So Paul Krugman has finally figured out that Obama and this Congress should be reinstituting laws, rules and regulations that would stop the egregious behavior of the financial markets? Its about time.
It doesnt take a genius to figure out you fix the plumbing before you put in new carpet, a lesson that has escaped Mr. Krugman and many other supposed economic guru types up to now.
PK appears to be mixing politics with the economy. Try Ralph Nader's article posted today.
Here's another place our money went...read it and weep if you have the time...and wonder why the Bush's et al are still in the general poopulace....If it does not come up or has been truncated by CD, go to israelshamir.net and scroll down.....
http:/www.israelshamir.net/Contributors/_911Collateral_
Damage.pdf
Krugman has been very vocal about his feelings towards the Obama Administration and has suffered for it by being completely ignored by the White House. Well Krugman some of us are listening and we support your views and hope that you put them into action.
I think two points are appropriate here.
1. Prof. Krugman, what the hell else did you expect Wall St. to do? They are in the money making business (although these days their methods are more like theft), which means they will use any means to rob the middle and lower classes to make money for the rich. I think in your next article, you might finally catch up with the rest of us who passed the outrage point long ago.
2. Frank1569 has a point. What will the public do to respond? We are about to get the double shaft by Geithner and Summers who are considering raising taxes on the middle class to pay for Wall Street's f***ups! To me, this calls for criminal investigations (which will never happen), or a tax revolution: don't pay your taxes! I know the consequences from the IRS can be severe, but if all of us do not pay our taxes, then what can the IRS do? To me this is war on the corporations and rich. We must organize to fight the beast, which means moving our money out of the big banks, and refusing to pay our taxes.
This country is FUBAR. It is time to set it on the right course for once and for all!
gracchus August 3rd, 2009 11:56 am....Truth is, the IRS (which is a private collection agency, opposed to Internal Revenue, which is part of the government apparatus)) cannot do much, especially when confronted with tax rebellion by millions. IF...big IF they are countered with the correct defense...PART of which is that it is unlawful for them to put levies on bank accounts and seize property, since they come under the same laws as other bill collectors. There's a specific code to use as a defence, the title of which escapes me at the moment. If you wish, I can look through my files. I'm a poor man on SS, so little of this effects me personally, but I wold be glad to do some research.
Now, all this was true a couple of years ago. Since we are now pretty much a full-fledged fascist nation, things may have changed.
easydoesit,
Thanks. With this country being the fascist nation it has become, it would not surprise me if the code you mention is obsolete. Tax protests would be a good start. It is bad enough that we have had to watch our taxes increase to compensate for the criminal activity perpetrated by Wall St. and our government. And now the threat of raising taxes on us again is just too much. We need to get the word out to people, organize, and protest. It is time to declare war on the corporations and the uberwealthy. We need guys like Krugman to keep writing (I am not sure if he would be willing to risk his tenured job at Princeton), and Ralph Nader to lead the protest marches. Real journalists like Glen Greenwald, Amy Goodman and Bill Moyers could cover us.
FUBAR = Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.
I believe the 'r' stands for reason. (?)
Krugman is a good guy, perhaps too good. His comments are informative, but, as others have pointed out, he does not convey enough outrage. The high income people from Wall Street should not only be in jail, they should have their ill gotten gains taken away from them. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen. We can't even get Obama to prosecute the Bush gang for all of their war crimes. Sad to say it, but Obama seems to be in on it.
There are many many nations in this world run by gangsters and killers. But of all of them the United States must be the most devious.
How about taxing trades? If Goldman Sachs gets in earlier than everyone else then gets out quicker, tax'em. We need the money.
I cannot understand how these people create real wealth. I guess it's like nails in building a house. Houses are put together with nails--that is true. But the created value lies in the labor and design, not in the nails. It makes you wonder if a system cannot be devised that rewards those that truly make us rich and offers a slight return on investment--like what teachers get paid--to the suppliers of nails.
drosera,
This is why we need to change the system.
In a home-building metaphor, the banksters are not so much suppliers of nails as a colony of carpenter ants. They exist to hollow out the creation of others.
"How about taxing trades?"
Absolutely, a tax on stock and commodity trades of 0.01% ($100 on million dollar trades) would not seriously affect retail investors or mutual fund managers but would limit speculation and raise enough money for the treasury to cure the deficit.
From: The Kleptocrat's Guide To Plutocracy, pg. 1 --
"Parallel to your ensuring that elected civil government remains continuously well-bought and paid-for, by you and your friends, the other vital principle of Plutocracy is to always keep the masses of people --i.e., those whose honest labor actually produces the wealth you intend to steal -- too busy, tired, confused, distracted, or stupid to mount any meaningful objections.
Although neither of these goals is particularly difficult to achieve, especially in the USA, modest, well-publicized donations, by you and your friends, to local soup kitchens and homeless shelters, are, from time to time, nevertheless advisable."
terry a, are you the author of the above guide? You hit the nail on the head. I recently received a donation request from Feeding America saying they had a matching grant from Kraft so my donation would be doubled.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Paul, now that our currency is not backed up by gold, why not sell our gold reserves, pay off our debts and share any profits?
According to Wikipedia, our gold reserves only add up to around $246 billion. I don't think that'll work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Official_gold_reserves
Okay then. Let's sell it and give everybody a trip to the Bahamas.
Paul, you wrote a good article. And while I'm sympathetic to the wsws, the reality is you would be vanished if you wrote like them. I could be wrong, but I suspect outrage under your calm demeanor. Obama made a big mistake, which we're all paying for, to dismiss you.
I too read that Geithner is warning us we will have to pay increased taxes (undefined as to extent) for health care, in addition to ever rising premiums, copays and deductibles. After exploding the deficit to bail out the crooks who got us here, Geithner is now telling us the middle class will also have to pay increased taxes to bring the deficit down. I thought Obama was a smart man, but I think he's being outsmarted by Geithner who I now think is a Republican mole intent on making Obama a one term president. I would say he's going to succeed. Anyone remember "Read my lips"? The public may be self-absorbed, ignorant and uninformed, but they are fully alert about their taxes. Of course, there are less and less people employed to pay taxes. I hear the next step is to slash what's left of government services to the public. Music to Libertarian ears.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Simply the best writing on the state of our economy is coming from Mike Whitney.
If you're tired of milquetoast analysis from economists who appear to be muzzled I strongly suggest you read Mr. Whitney's current piece.
Skip the Happy Talk, This Depression is just beginning
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article23182.htm
Mike Whitney indeed, produces very good articles. Also if you go to counterpunch, read today's article by Pam Martens (she worked on Wall St. for 21 years). She explains the fraud that is taking place in great detail.
But if you truly want to see something that is astonishing, go to this link:
http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-descrbie-the-following-part-ii.html
Send this link to all of your friends. It truly will open their eyes.
The link couldn't be found.
You had the word describe misspelled.
http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following.html
** They should put this guy on the nightly news, he speaks the language of the people.
Cygnus,
Thanks. My bad on the misspelling. Pretty amazing video is it not?
As far as I'm concerned he has more credibility than anyone in the media.
That clip should be played on the nightly news. Of course, it will never happen.
http://dailybail.com/home/there-are-no-words-to-describe-the-following-part-ii.html
Link to freshman Democrat Alan Grayson, who doesn't yet know not to ask penetrating questions, regarding oversight at the Federal Reserve.
I saw that. I rolled with laughter at the looks and grins he was giving Bernake. When he asked what European banks got the half trillian and Bernake said quickly, "I don't know", I though it was worthy of national headlines. Oh, yes of course, the US taxpayers haven't lost a penny. Right. So I guess you and I can borrow a million bucks for a year or so and return it at 0% interest while we invested it the whole year on some bond which paid us 5 to 10%. Hey, tHAT'S ABOUT 50 TO 100 THOUSAND BUCKS! Thank you mr. taxpayer. Remember, we gave back every penny of that million.
You didn't lose a penny.
Most telling line:
"Unfortunately, the House measure is opposed by the Obama administration, which still seems to operate on the principle that what’s good for Wall Street is good for America."
Yet Wall Street's mouthpiece, the MSM, informs us that Obama's numbers are plummeting because the people don't want to spend any money on healthcare (for themselves as opposed to tithing Wall St)
Rewarding bad actors? Like voters rewarding Obama and Mccain even though those two were tied to bailing out Wall $treet? Mixing politics into the economic issues as Paul does gives me a headache even though he is correct up to a point. Americans will not be interested in holding W$ accountable until you get them to understand the devil they really are in non-political terms.
PS: Purloining the People's Property by Ralph Nader is better because it's non-political.
i consider krugman a national treasure, but i'm disappointed that his article doesn't touch on the systemic reasons for 'financial aristocracy' creatures.
I find it rather odd that this article does not directly confront the ancient stereotype of usurers. While the technical definition specifies of course an "exorbitant amount of interest", it might be salient to raise some form of legislative proposal wherein "exorbitant numbers of transactions" qualifies as such, being entirely contrary to the nature of investing/speculation.
This technocratic filtration of the abstract legal tender is yet bounded by the physics of the universe, and consequentially is destined for an exponentially dismal fleecing of itself, while allowing these "bad actors" the coverage required by a culture that demands that extravagance and utility merge in Maithuna's embrasure.
We have come to an era of daily market interventions by Goldman Sachs and others, so much so that the main purpose of banksters is to prevent ordinary markets from happening at all.
Happy investing!
And if you haven't seen this interview with Alex Jones and Dr. Tenpenny about the SWINE (flu), it really is worth viewing: http://drtenpenny.com/20090730.aspx
And that is why, just two and half weeks ago, the New york Stock Exchange quietly published an "innocuous" statement about ceasing to publish weekly program trading figures. Godam Sachs is THE major program trader followed by JP Morgan. Together they are responsible for, get this, 55% of all volume on the exchanges. Now with a footprint that big, if you can't monkey with the market, you are stupid. They knew how bad it was going to get with this depression so they are moving us into la-la land perception management with vigor. As long as they have levereage, the game goes on. However, if I had stocks, I would sell everything and never go back to that corrupt casino.
Yes, I read that somewhere. They're playing games with the market to instill confidence, and the government is allowing it happen.
Get ready for the next bubble to deflate, after the Wall Street scum have taken their share and transferred it out of the country to avoid paying taxes.
"Just to be clear: financial speculation can serve a useful purpose. It’s good, for example, that futures markets provide an incentive to stockpile heating oil before the weather gets cold and stockpile gasoline ahead of the summer driving season."
CLEAR AS MUD!
The caveat to the above statement is that market prices are inflated by market makers with gigantic leverage (i.e. margin). Borrowing money for speculation distorts prices. The average person cannot borrow like the market makers. It is market manipulation at it's worst. The buy-sell formulas for determining a stock price would be "REAL" if only non-borrowed capital was used for speculation.
If you want to stockpile with futures contracts, do it with your own money!
And be bound by law to take delivery on 75% of all contracts to stop the games played by speculators.
Why don't you talk about this stuff, Mr. Krugman? Why can an investment bank use ten times (OR MORE) their actual capital to jack around with the market?
Why can Goldman Sachs borrow from the fed at 0% and then use 10 to 24 times that amount in speculation? You'd have to be a complete MORON to lose money with all that welfare and affirmative action. This is grand larceny, embezzlement and highway robbery on a national scale. Calling them "bad actors" is like mistaking a great white shark for an agressive tadpole.
Stop pussyfooting around these criminal actions, Mr. Krugman. I know you know better.