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German Military Report: Peak Oil Could Lead to Collapse of Democracy
Peak oil has happened or will happen some time around this year, and its consequences could threaten the continued survival of democratic governments, says a secret Germany military report that was leaked online.
The sun sets over an oil platform waiting to be towed out into the Gulf of Mexico at Port Fourchon in Louisiana in May. According to Der Spiegel, the report from a think-tank inside the German military warns that shrinking global oil supplies will threaten the world's economic foundations and possibly lead to mass-scale upheaval within the next 15 to 30 years. (AFP/File/Mark Ralston) According to Der Spiegel,
the report from a think-tank inside the German military warns that
shrinking global oil supplies will threaten the world's economic
foundations and possibly lead to mass-scale upheaval within the next 15
to 30 years.
International trade would suffer as the cost of transporting goods across oceans would soar, resulting in "shortages in the supply of vital goods," the report states, as translated by Der Spiegel.
The result would be the collapse of the industrial supply chain. "In the medium term the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse," the report states.
That collapse could, in turn, cause many countries to abandon free markets principles, the report states. Deals would be struck between oil-exporting and oil-importing countries that would fix prices and remove large amounts of oil from the global market place.
"The proportion of oil traded on the global, freely accessible oil market will diminish as more oil is traded through bi-national contracts," the report states.
That would prompt some governments to abandon free market economics altogether, the report suggests. With peak oil causing "partial or complete failure of markets ... [a] conceivable alternative would be government rationing and the allocation of important goods or the setting of production schedules and other short-term coercive measures to replace market-based mechanisms in times of crisis."
But the report also warns that the economic crisis caused by shrinking oil supplies and skyrocketing prices could be seen by the general public as a failure of market economics as a whole -- and with it, the political institutions that created those economic systems.
Public anger at the existing system would create "room for ideological and extremist alternatives to existing forms of government." Populations would fragment along political lines and "in extreme cases" this could "lead to open conflict."
Peak oil -- which refers to the moment when the world's production of oil begins to shrink -- is a controversial concept, but few doubt the basic logic underlying it: That eventually the world's finite supply of oil will run out, and nations will have to turn to other sources of energy, or face economic disaster.
With the report, Germany joins the growing ranks of Western governments apparently alarmed by the prospect of peak oil.
Last Sunday, the UK Observer reported that Britain's Department of Energy and Climate Change is refusing to release documents related to peak oil, even though, as the Observer noted, previously released documents argue the veil of secrecy around the issue is probably "not good."
The UK government is reportedly canvassing leading scientists and industrialists for their advice on how to build a contingency plan for peak oil.
And earlier this year, a report from the US Joint Forces Command stated that "by 2012, surplus oil production capacity could entirely disappear, and as early as 2015, the shortfall in output could reach nearly 10 million barrels per day."
The report continued, "While it is difficult to predict precisely what economic, political, and strategic effects such a shortfall might produce, it surely would reduce the prospects for growth in both the developing and developed worlds. Such an economic slowdown would exacerbate other unresolved tensions, push fragile and failing states further down the path toward collapse, and perhaps have serious economic impact on both China and India."
Not everyone agrees that peak oil is a reality -- at least not yet. Detractors point out that predictions of peak oil have been made since the 1950s, and the date for it was originally pegged at around 1995. But the discovery of new oil fields and the development of new technologies for oil extraction mean that oil production has continued unabated in new oil fields even as traditional oil supplies run dry.
Peak oil skeptics argue that rising oil prices are responsible for the continuing supply of oil -- as oil gets more expensive, extracting it from difficult places becomes more profitable. Some argue this process could continue for decades.
But environmentalists point out that these new alternative methods of extracting oil are more environmentally harmful than traditional methods. Producers in the Alberta oil sands, for example, use large amounts of water to push oil out of sand, and the thick oil produced by this process is significantly higher in carbon content than the light, sweet crude imported from the Middle East.
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Show AllWow, that sounds errily like the bush/chainey energy plan. It's time to shift our war economy to a renewable energy economy. And quick!
"LEAD to collapse of Democracy" ??????
Unless you have been locked in a closet for 30 years or have a case of terminal denial syndrome (it afflicts a majority of Americans) you should have noticed that democracy has already collapsed.
Holy Shit Batman... now we are quoting the German Military as experts on the "state of democracy".
What's next? ...quoting Cheney on the state of 3rd World childcare?
He isn't quoting the German Military. He is stating that - at least here in the U.S. - there IS no democracy. The German report is stating that when Peak Oil comes, it will result in the collapse of democracy. We don't have to worry about it here in the U.S., as we have no democracy to collapse.
Go to dictionary.com, idiot, and look up the following words: "Plutocracy," "Oligarchy," "dictatorship," "fascism." then look up "democracy."
Do any of those definitions look just a tad familiar to you? Uh-huh. And it ain't the last word.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
Demonstorm,
It seems that a lack of civility and disrespect for your fellow CD readers (both probable consequences of a loss of democracy) have already established themselves firmly in your thinking and behavior. The tone of the end of your comment is unpleasant, and referring to someone as an idiot does say a lot about you, the writer.
I don't understand why CD allows insulting writing like yours to appear in the Comments section of the site.
Respectfully,
woodboot
You flagged my comment because I used the word "idiot" to refer to the poster I was replying to? Who is immature?
For the record, I withdraw the word "idiot" from my post. Now, read it again - minus that one, single word - and all of a sudden my post isn't even remotely disrespectful or uncivil.
You get this bent out of shape over a single word, "idiot," you have too much time on your hands. Spend those calories over on Beck's site.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis, "It Cant Happen Here", 1935
Holy Shit...now Americans make comments on the state of Germans' understanding of democracy?
What's next? ...America pretending it's not a fascist system?
Yes.
If one is informed, one would know that the U.S. may be "technically" a democracy, however.......
America is "rapidly" (in a historical timeline) becoming a fascist, plutocratic government. (For those who are ignorant, look up the definitions). In other words, corporations & the wealthy & a small percentage of elites are quickly obtaining the total power of the government.
We are quickly becoming a modern FEUDAL society, probably within the lifetimes of those who are under 50.
By-the-way, TODAY, Germany is probably more democratic than America.
Also, the TREND is that Germany is becoming MORE democratic RELATIVE TO the U.S. year by year.
You are wrong.
That's because TODAY, Germany is actually more democratic than the U.S.
If you are mentally "living" if the era of 40 or more years ago, then yes, German would be less democratic.
The situation in 2010 is noticeably different than the situation is the 1940a, 50s, 60s.
America is becoming less democratic, relatively quickly, year by year, now.
Germany is becoming slightly more democratic during the past couple of decades, and has overtaken the U.S. when it comes to who is the victorious democracy.
Dear Friends,
Most of the people I know, eat food. This is why I think that the greatest threat to humanity is hunger. Climate change, economic collapse, species extinction and peak oil all threaten to exacerbate this threat. Wouldn't it be great if there was a cheap and easy way for each individual to increase their food growing capability while reducing their contribution to climate change, world hunger, economic collapse, species extinction and peak oil?
Fortunately such a process exists. It appears that there are a number of essential plant and animal nutrients that were previously unknown to science. When added to the soil, they double plant growth over a few years time, while increasing drought & freeze tolerance. They also improve the taste and nutrition of the plants. See:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/plant-lynx.htm
When fed to animals, they increase the early growth and health of chickens and have allowed a cat to regrow a lost tail. See:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/animal-lynx.htm
These minerals have been concentrated from sea water, fresh water, rocks and even from the air using cheap, open-source methods described at:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/articles.htm#METHODS
Hunger is a threat because global warming will force us to significantly change our food growing areas, economic collapse will prevent more people from being able to afford good food, peak oil will force us to grow more food locally or starve and species extinction will create holes in the web of life that feeds us. Growing inches of new topsoil and doubling plant production in a couple years will help all species that eat food. It will also sequester more carbon.
Anyone with access to fire and sea water can concentrate these minerals from the sea. If you have access to magnets and plumbing parts you can concentrate them from the air or fresh water using open-source methods. If everyone can make it, no one can stop it.
With kindest regards,
Barry Carter
bcarter at igc.org
I went to the second site whose URL you listed, and found more nonsense than can be described easily.
Some of the material there pertains to M-state materials (which are never defined). But it overlaps what is found in sites about "white powder gold," some of whose advocates claim that it was the manna that fed the Israelites during the Exodus. Others believe that it is what the Ark of the Covenant was made of.
Some of the material there states that these powders display superconductivity. Since even the people at Bell Labs cannot get superconductivity to occur above about 100 Kelvins, (liquid nitrogen temperatures), it is hard to assign any credence to what is posted on that site.
I disagree with a lot of the material posted on CD but some things are beyond the pale.
The information and photos at the first listed link describing the significant increase of plant growth from the use of a formulation of minerals derived from the ocean is most interesting. Thank you for posting this information.
I went to the first URL posted too. It is filled with the same kind of nonsense I found in the second one. Not about superconductivity, but about M-state elements and white powder gold.
Nowhere in the sites listed there is any real documentation. When a "testing lab" is mentioned, its identity is not given; the author says that the lab prefers to remain anonymous.
Anecdotal information is not reliable. If the stuff described on these sites worked as claimed, Monsanto would be producing it in bulk.
One hundred percent of those who adopt the habit of eating die.
And the first casualty will be Wal-Mart. When the cost of shipping exceeds the savings bought by slave labor, local jobs will reappear. Call it the Peak Oil Tariff.
True. And I think this could be a good thing. Maybe the US companies could use America workers agan instead of outsourcing all their work to sweat shops. We can put the farmers back to work instead of paying them to not farm. We could start MAKING things here at home instead of importing the tainted crap from China. You know, like the contaminated stuff that gets in the food and pet food? Or lead tainted jewelery from China. Nike, Apple, MS and car companies could put the unemployed back to work. Naomi Klein's book Naked Capitalism said that Nike sold the name Nike to cheaper countries. &100 shoes cost them pennies to make.
The mention of WalMart is appropriate. When Sam Walton was alive he bragged that everything he sold was made in America. Now, nearly nothing in the store was made here.
Each week, one of the Sunday papers published in my area has a list of items that have been recalled for one reason or another. Nearly all of them are made in China, either because Chinese-made things are crap or because everything in the stores comes from China, or both.
I met someone the other dsy thst knew Sam. She said he was a decent guy and treated his workers fairly and paid them a decent wage. She said he would be applled to see what his heirs have done to his company. All for greed. They are already billionares. Just how much money do they need? Not even paying their workers a living wage so that they don't need state aid for food stamps and medical care. Greedy rich f$&ks.
The problem is not the greed of Walton's heirs. The problem is the system. The corporation is required to provide a maximum return to its shareholders. That means squeezing every nickel until the buffalo shits.
sheepherder, not quite. CEOs only have to turn a profit - they aren't legally bound to behave as criminally as possible while still remaining within the law.
The CEOs are NOT reluctant participants - the majority are fully engaged in the process, and the politicians do all they can to assist them.
After all, where are all the ex- and retired CEOs speaking out?
You reminded me of the 4 hose nozzles I had to buy before I finally got one that worked (for 10 bucks at Lowes). The first 4 cost about 2-3 bucks. I'm convinced that Chinese crap is really MORE expensive in the long run. Have you noticed how often you have to replace things now, especially your appliances?
I have German appliances.They come with miniature krauts mit lab coats.
And they will still be working 30 years from now.
How about going back to the Clipper ships of the nineteenth century? Those suckers could move! And it takes exactly zero energy derived from fossil fuels to power them. Hi ho, and away, ye lubbers!
I alway thought the same thing regarding a return to sailing ships. Modern design, weather forecasting, and automation of the sails would make modern-day sailing ships even faster - and much safer for the crew.
Or make them hybrid, with the diesel engines as back up and for fine maneuvering.
here are sailing ships using kite systems:
http://www.skysails.info/index.php?id=472&L=2
There are some interesting German designs for modern sailing ships.There's a tourist Zeppelin flying around the Bay Area.There was a company formed in Germany a few years back to build cargo Zepps.It failed.Maybe they should be thinking about solar-powered electric Zepps.I think the Count was on to a good thing.
Wal-Mart buildings are single story because the corporation doesn't want the liability problems of escalators etc. They have flat roofs, bad insulation, and are not built to last. When peak oil hits and the capitalist system collapses they will be the first buildings to be dismantled and used for scrap. Then the parking lots can be ripped up and replaced by communal farmland.
The English version is a summary of the full report in German, http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,714878,00.html
There is a translation of the original German and additional analysis and discussion here, http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6912
Perhaps this explanation can help.
Trylon
EuroEnglish
The European commission has just announced an agreement
that English will be the official language of European
Community (EU) rather than German (the other
possibility). As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's
Government conceded that English spelling had some room
for improvement, and has accepted a 5-year phase-in of
new rules that would apply to the language and reclassify
it as EuroEnglish. The agreed plan is as follows:
In year 1, the soft 'c' would be replaced by 's'.
Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with
joy. The hard 'c' will be replased by 'k'. This should
klear up konfusion and keyboards kan now have one less
letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond
year when the troublesome 'ph' is replased by 'f'. This
will reduse 'fotograf' by 20%.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptance of the new spelling
kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated
changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the
removal of double letters, which have always ben a
deterent to akurate speling. Also al wil agre that the
horible mes of the silent 'e's in the language is
disgrasful, and they should eliminat them.
By year 4, peopl wil be reseptiv to lingwistik
korektions such as replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with
'v' (saving mor keyboard spas). During ze fifz year, ze
unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and
similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
After zis fifz year, ve vil hav a reli sensibil riten
styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun
vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. ZE DREM VIL
FINALI KUM TRU!!!
hilarious!
Trylon,
Have you ever listened to Dave Emory about the Underground Reich? Perhaps there truth in every joke.
http://wfmu.org/playlists/DX
Zank iu.
Und ver ist dis democracy?
"Und ver ist dis democracy?"
Mein Herr, it is being formed in beer halls all across the United States. Dueling scars are about to become as fashionable as tattoos.
Intersting how the Global Propaganda System furthers one of the Big Lies. One of the lamentations from the study is Peak Oil impeding the spread of Western values.
Dueling scars and monocles.
Peak Oil Could Lead to Collapse of Democracy
In the United States, democracy has already been vanquished. The only question left to be decided is whether the United States gets a homicidal form of far right government or a more gentlemanly type.
Vote Palin/Sasquatch... and strike a match.
Hopefully the Sasquatch would get in. Then we'd have a real President, assuming the Sasquatch was real.
Thanks!
I was looking for someone to write-in besides Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.
They are just way too corporate.
Sasquatch is the perfect "Natural" alternative.
This German report confuses democracy, which is citizen government, with plutocracy, or the rule of the large corporations.
If the industrial supply chain collapses, groups of ordinary citizens are economically free to find ways around their problems. The stifling national overburden of rotten patenting processes and onerous government regulation of the little guys while winking at BP, starts to crack apart and small businesses and co-ops grow through the cracks.
Exactly. The article's summary of the report practically treats "end of democracy" and (so-called) "abandonment of free markets" as if the things are symonimous.
In most cases, abandoning "free markets" would only enhance democracy by taking economic power out of the hands of the financial elites and into the hands of the people.
I'm glad others see it as I do. This will not be bad at all. It will be chaotic at first but it will force the return of values, humanity and some very good things.
I'm not so sure about that. Ever notice how European attitudes toward slavery tended to move toward disapproval in parallel with our species' increasing exploitation of fossil fuels? I wonder if slavery ultimately became unpopular because the owning classes had discovered a better source of "free" energy. In my 38 years on this planet, I've known quite a few USAmericans whom I don't doubt would gladly exploit the free labor of other human beings if it meant that they got to maintain their standard of living.
Rev. T. Monkey, I think your surmise is spot on. I've mentioned the use of slaves - first human, then "energy slaves" in the context of over-consumption and imperialism. I've also argued against a blanket certification of the current western civilization as a result of human "ingenuity" alone, while ignoring the use of massive amounts of slave power.
A hedge fund manager recently was quoted in the NY Times complaining about efforts to do away with free-markets. But he did concede that:
"Many people see the collapse of the subprime markets, along with the failure and subsequent rescue of many banks, as failures of capitalism rather than a result of a vile stew of inept management, unaccountable boards of directors and overmatched regulators not just asleep, but comatose, at the proverbial switch. It is easy to see why so many people have concluded that the entire system is rigged."
Adam Smith predicted thata these kinds of things would happen. Perhaps if he were writing today he would not be so enthusiastic about the efficacy of the "invisible hand."
Experience shows concentration of power in the government's hands leads to autocracy and dictatorship. Free markets tend to be more efficient, they are not perfect, but they work better than a centrally planned economy, or markets run by government bureaucrats, who lack the ability to perceive efficiency signals needed in a modern economy. This is the reason why a socialist country like Brazil, which lets the free market run in a regulated fashion, grows quite well, while a country like Venezuela, which practices a so called 21st century socialism, has a decaying economy with an increasingly poor performance.
If you are talking of "efficiency", then it's the efficiency of the whole system - that is, the country - that should come first. Why should a victim of a so-called free market care about the "efficiency" of a particular corporation or a particular market? Also, efficiency cannot be mentioned without defining the parameters: what it is that we are trying to maximize, so that the inputs for various options can be compared to determine the relative efficiencies. The boundary has to be defined first.
While a centrally planned economy may introduce certain inefficiencies, these are primarily due to human nature. And free-market supporters claim (or imply) that it can address human nature more efficiently. But it's only in a limited context, where the boundary is drawn around a particular industry. However, this same human nature also tries to pass on so many "costs" as "externalities" - such as labor exploitation and environmental pollution.
Ultimately any system would have to confront with human nature. And given the finite nature of resources and the environmental consequences of a runaway capitalist expansion, there is something even more important than efficiency of a smaller subsystem (such as a corporation): it's the sustainability of the overall system, and that has to be paramount.
BTW, Brazil is not a good example of an efficient system, if you go by an engineering definition: ratio of output to its corresponding input.
Brazil too uses up far too much resources with not much concern for sustainability. Along with sustainability, the other main goal is an equitable system - where no section of population is left to suffer as a result of excessive profits for another subsystem.
You don't have to agree on the need for sustainability and equity. But if we are going to talk about efficiency, we need to define the parameters first - what is it that we are trying to make efficient? And then see if others care for the same thing.