In Farenheit 911 Bush had said that it would be easier to run this country under a dictatorship. Then he just smiled to make it appear as though he was just joking. Now.. was he?

I have never trusted that man since I heard him say that in an interview. Joking or not!

Have you ever really thought about how simple it is to kill this empire? Money power and control all need one thing to give them meaning and to make them work, cooperation of the people who are the object of control and the slaves taught to worship paper they have control over the value of. Think about that people will do anything for pieces of paper.

Just say no and stop using the usual methods to conduct your life trade more, barter, start a local currency get out of the trap and live your life for you.

Revolutions alway involve people dying that is really no reason to avoid one that is certain in its outcome the people once united in their desire for change would carry the day no question.

But it is easier leave the elites to be the only ones playing their game.

jove4015 said: "Why wait for ultimate carnage? Do something now. We can still impeach this guy. Now. If we wanted to. Just call up your congress[wo]man."

Give me a break. Call your "representatives"? They'll impeach Bush and/or Cheney? The ones who said that "Impeachment is off the table"? The ones who are corporate sponsored? The ones who rely on funding from the military-industrial complex? And what if one's "representatives" are Republican (as all of mine are)? Will they still support impeachment?

As I said, give me a break.

You denounce "observer" for saying "Bush canceling election might be the best thing that happen to the US. For we need not only shock but quite a shock." But this doesn't necessarily support armed resistance against the US military. It needn't come to that.

And are you saying that members of the US military will mindlessly fight and kill thousands or millions of pissed-off Americans? I'm afraid to consider that point.

Americans need a wake-up call. The past couple decades of Republican destruction hasn't sufficed. And for you to think that more of the same will work, or that calling "representatives" will make a damn is what is "truly foolish".

Never forget that Al Qaida was, is and always will be a CIA asset. It was created to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, used by the U.S. in Kosovo, and is the tool used to militarize our society. That Bush "overlooked" warnings of Al Qaida attacks is disinformation. Everything actually went according to plan.

Golddogs:

I sure do remember the chicken flu deal. We could not get the shot in our city, our doctor said they only had enough for people over 70 years old who symptoms of a cold or were in poor health. We finally did find a place, a drug store in a supermarket eighty miles from our home. We got two of the five doses they had left. Later we were informed by neighbors that the flu shots may be poisonous, they were supposedly contaminated with lead. (??)

I agree with your opinions on this subject and wonder when the mass killings will come to pass. Well, it will help to solve the over population problem. Something has to be done.

I'm not really serious about those last two sentences, it's not a funny subject. It is difficult to believe that anything like this is actually happening. What has hapened to us to America? Maybe this is one reason impeachment is Off The Table. HMMMM.

But why cancel the election of 2008?

The baby boomers are retiring, there are no where near the number of people to take care of them, fact. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

The Neo Cons and the wealthy are tired of sharing their golf courses, favorite Ocean and lake fishing spots, hunting areas, National parks, waterfront properties, the highway, air, water etc. etc. etc. with common folks, blacks, gays, non Christians, peacenicks etc.

I'm sure they are developing a BIO, virus or an anthrax/? attack to clean house as they wait it out underground,in the hills or tropical islands.

Remember Bush and the chicken flu paranoia? Bush canceled the vaccine order mid production after only enough was made for a core group....military, police/fire medical.

Don't underestimate these nut jobs, Bush has the(new) laws to back him in just a scenario.

If I were to travel abroad I would be very interested in a class on how to be Canadian. Pro - cess, aboot etc.

Unfortunately, the majority of people in the world don't believe that crazy people are sacred and that it is bad medicine to hurt them. (Was there really tribes that believed this?)

Letting Bu$h the inferior and Shotgun Dick lead us is pretty clear evidence of insanity. The only defense we have for tolerating these two sick bastards is mass insanity.

shakespeare quote apropos of this-

julius caesar-'give me men around me who are fat...cassius has a mean and hungry look..'

I suppose that can be said about the American public-fattened on fast foods, tv mindlessness, sport minutae, hobbyism, materialism and celebrity. working their a$$es off to make ends meet. addicted to all sorts of things, gambling, food, drugs, alcohol you name it. add in to the mix the Christian Right and the ownership of the media by the same companies lobbying for more weaponry and we've got a heckuva problem on our hands,right progressive and independent thinkers? What can be done?

signed, another 'gargling in the rat race choir'

IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY. BUT FIRST OF ALL, GET RID OF PRLOSI, THE OBSTRUCTIONIST. WE SURE AS HELL DON'T WANT HER SUCCEEDING TO THE PRESIDENCY.

Thank THANK GOD! for all these americans who have ambition along with a love of country...only hope to squelch the hypocrite, hubristic so-and-sos now in power who were planning God- knows -what not to ever be through! D.C's (are the initials a coincidence?) latest super-power move is just the beginning...

At least..these men and women give all of us a chance to 1)Vote again! 2)Care about the country! 3(SaVE LIVES! 4)Read and practice the principles this country was founded on.

Americans rise up?? LOL Forget it. Americans are far too brainwashed from childhood by their fascist school system. They support their president, whether he is a crook or not. They are the perfect Nazi supporters. They will never rise up because they hate being called "unamerican" when they express any view that is counter to what their fascist government wants them to believe. As long as the have their American Idol, their burgers and coke, and their bank-owned SUVs, they don't care what the rest of the world does., or what their government does to the rest of the world. They are the most uneducated ignorant people in the world, scary when their country is the only superpower.

Commemorate the Innocent Victims of War

Yes Siouxrose, what the US is doing is blasphemous and imo against God.

Yes UN-common-dreams, ALL wars are civil wars because we are all relatives to one another. We are all part of the human family.

All those who have suffered and died in this war should be commemorated and we should remember not only the young people who chose to enter the military.

We should as a nation consider the innocent victims who have died or who have survived but are damaged, psychologically and physically.

The United States will commemorate the soldiers who have died, and the US government will reluctantly help those soldiers who survive, but where are the commemorations for the children in Iraq? Where are the doctors and nurses, the psychologists and the help networks for those children who are living through this war?

If Americans had a better understanding of what war is and the destruction and human misery it causes, would they have been so eager to begin the war in Iraq? If people knew that some children would die and some would lose their families, could they have supported this war of choice in Iraq? for oil? for profit?

While conservatives comment about how America does not stick with its committments in a war, perhaps liberals or progressives should discuss the effects of a past war on a nation, like Viet Nam.

The president of Viet Nam is in the US now. Viet Nam is not a model for human rights, but there are people in Viet Nam, some children, who have been affected by the use of dioxin (Agent Orange) by America. Dioxin is a chemical weapon and a weapon of mass destruction, a wmd used by the United States that affected a large civilian population and continues to be found in the soil in Viet Nam. How much scientific evidence do we need really to believe that dioxin is causing still births and deformities in babies? today in Viet Nam.

What are the obligations of Americans and our nation to clean up the mess left by our war in Viet Nam and by our use of a chemical wmd on innocent civilians?

Maybe if we consider the victims in war, we will be more cautious in engaging in war as a form of foreign policy and in war for profit (oil).

Libertas fugit: Excellent analysis to which I totally agree. And it links to a comment made much earlier in this thread. COLLEEN says, "The reverence for the president fits in with the American view that the US is led by God." It is time for a NEW definition of "GOD" that does not endow the Supreme Being with qualities far more consistent with a god of war, i.e. MARS. So long as populations are indoctrinated to believe the fiction that "god" wants them to kill, or that the carnage they consent to steal (against the Biblical commandment) represents following 'god's will. THIS is a blasphemy, and it's so ingrained in mass consciousness as to make the act of killing appear to own impunity.
Purvis, love that quote about B-grade actors; but of course Reagan auditioned for that part, and since he's "the favorite" president to quite a few deranged citizens, hey, acting works in a made-for-TV political culture!

2cents;

Your first sentence had me laughing so hard I nearly choked.Yes Americans are so thoroughly indoctrinated that we deservedly are the object of pity and or derision to the rest of the world.This starts in grade school and our high school textbooks are completely lacking in balance.
The relentless bombardment of hype for consuming too often substitutes for critical thinking and we lose out on many levels.
An easy guidepost to judge any future improvement in these matters:will American spectators at sporting events stop chanting "We're number 1!"

2cents wrote

"Crooks, immoral, greedy, these characters put their pants on one at a time; now we see that while some were saying Bush was a harmless idiot and Cheney and Rove super monsters, there were real men who in the middle of it all, stood up to them, seeing them for the cheap hoodlum bullies that they are. We need more such honest, loyal Americans who put their lives and careers on the line to call a halt to their crimes against us all."
To clarify: Reading the article made me believe that there are still loyal Americans -- real men who stand up to Bush and Co.

Excellent piece by Mr. Whitton!

The Nazis are back!

You can't "impeach" an economic system, or the political system that live off, and supports it.

Bush is a problem but not "the" problem.

To keep the focus on Bush, is to not see the forest for the tree.

Look around, and start building an independent political party that will fight for workers interests in all arenas.

observer: the only thing I have to say about your comment is that I wouldn't be so sure that the American people could rise up without threat of nuclear weapons use. Honestly now, what would stop these madmen from dropping bombs on a couple major bases of resistance forces? Patriotism? Pfft, not among this crowd. Humanitarianism? Negative on that. I honestly think that they would use (maybe small ones, but I wouldn't count on it) nuclear AND chemical weapons against ANY real threat to their power. -ANY- threat. Consequences? This crowd doesn't do that, because that would be reality intruding on their right to impose their will, at least that is how I've read their philosophy.

Just a word of warning.

2 cents

The reverence for the president fits in with the American view that the US is led by God.

It would be impossible for someone who said they did not believe in a God to win the presidency. Its important to many Americans that the president goes to church and has a Christian spiritual advisor.

I don't know how Americans fit this view of America being led by God in with the genocide of the American Indian or the importation of blacks for slavery or the prejudice that exists in America. I think they view that as unamerican and that what America is is something very good and blessed by God.

As children, all learn the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag and in that is this:

"one nation under God, indivisible, with libery and justice for all"

And that is the American dream that Americans are taught in school and believe that the president will guide us towards, under God's direction.

Even some people who realize that Bush is a failure still think he has a good heart and made mistakes.

Imo no one can have a good heart who has supported torture, particularly of innocent people that has led to their deaths. Many Americans (and this includes some intelligent people too) are delusional

"resistance is here June 23rd, 2007 5:40 pm

Not only is it Bush's war on America. It is the neocon war on Americans. It is corporatism's war on America. 9/11 was the shock and awe beginning. The war in ongoing and we are being defeated."

No kidding, you are absolutely right. View the video at the link below and then send it to your Congressperson and Senators. Not that it will do any good but we oughta go down fighting.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17909.htm

The Bush Administration has not made a secret of using national security as a campaign issue as they held the vote to authorize the War in Iraq shortly before the 2002 COngressional elections and used the War in Iraq as "their" issue in the 2004 election. I don't doubt that a war with Iran will be used for the 2008 election.

Secret and sometimes, not so secret.

Crooks, immoral, greedy, these characters put their pants on one at a time; now we see that while some were saying Bush was a harmless idiot and Cheney and Rove super monsters, there were real men who in the middle of it all, stood up to them, seeing them for the cheap hoodlum bullies that they are. We need more such honest, loyal Americans who put their lives and careers on the line to call a halt to their crimes against us all.

"zoya June 23rd, 2007 3:14 pm

As I intimated in another thread on this forum, it's a bit late for impeachment. Congress has already forfeited its power to impeach; neither Bush nor Cheney would acknowledge a bill of impeachment as constitutionally binding."

It isn't too late for impeachment. All it takes is enough members of the House to vote a bill of impeachment. At that point the Senate doesn't even have a say, they have to conduct the trial. And BTW Bush and Cheney don't get to decide whether they can be impeached or not. No impeachable public official does. If they could there would be no impeachment ever, for no one would ever acknowledge that they should be impeached.

Lobo Gris

"The Godfather" meets George Orwell is how they'll pitch the movie to those gay liberals in Hollyweird.

From Robert Parry, Consortium News:

"In an interview with Hersh, Taguba described a chilling conversation he had with Gen. John Abizaid, head of Central Command, a few weeks after Taguba's report became public in 2004. Sitting in the back of Abizaid's Mercedes sedan in Kuwait, Abizaid quietly told Taguba, "You and your report will be investigated."

"I'd been in the Army 32 years by then," Taguba told Hersh, "and it was the first time that I thought I was in the Mafia."

2cents:
i grew in the time of Ike..i learned in those days the president was like the masthead on a ship..ever heard of the bully pulpit??power is very interesting--as a guy like ike had had his fill and would rather shoot a round in the 80's than mess around with spying on his fellow man..not all get a chance to command an army, so it seems to me the following guys have been moving the "what is" from the masthead to the flagstaff..I believe George Washington would be not very happy with the likes of what has been happening here for the last 50 years..
ken

The American people won't rise up. Hell, they can hardly lift the remote control to change channels from "Lost" to "American Idol" or "Wife Swap." They can't find their own country on a map, and they sure as heck can't find Iraq (or Iran). I'm sure they're less certain about the frequency of presidential election cycles than the cycle of football, basketball, baseball and poker seasons (does poker have a season?). If Bush canceled the elections due to a "national emergency," I'm sure it would raise less consternation than if the SuperBowl were delayed because of same. Our news media analyzes the "candidates" for president on the basis of their appearance, their delivery, their tone of voice, their haircuts, their "style," ad nauseum. Content? No, that would require providing background information...you know, facts, data, research. Too much work. And it doesn't sell advertising time. Corporate owners/advertisers have no interest in informing the public. Besides, corporate media owners know what their agenda is, and they know which candidates they already own. The rest of it? Just another American-Idolish opportunity to sell ads. Who's watching? NOT ME!

I won't be coming to AmeriKKa on holiday

Paul Bramscher: I do not think they are intentionally destroying the U.S., I think it's more about the love of money, and that ANYTHING--inclusive of war and the will of a people--that stands in the way of that dark power and its temptations is merely being crushed under foot, as if by some seemingly unstoppable beast.
Although this statement comes without legal experience, it reflects a wise teaching taken from a Law and Order episode (LOL). After McCoy presents a cogent case knowing he didn't have enough evidence, the jury presents the truly just verdict. McCoy applauds the FACT that usually the jury is right. The JURY in the U.S. is equivalent to its voters. When the Supreme Court pre-empted OUR verdict, THIS is the result... a bunch of business cons without moral scruples running the nation as if it merely represents those assets at their personal disposal. Human misery, human welfare, human life on this side or across the waters are of NO consequence. IF there is a dark force then it surely is working through these people. Bush talked a big game of going after evil, an effective strategy (to idiots) in taking the spotlight off himself as MAJOR perpetrator of evil.

Under Bush, health care, the environment, debt, globalization, offshoring, etc. have not just been managed poorly -- they're basically off the slate entirely: national topics non grata.

So, certainly, when we look at the trashing of privacy, habeas corpus, the economy, cleaving of jobs to the developing world, thinness of our ability to manage real natural disasters here at home (Katrina, Kansas), reliance on mercenaries, etc. it's not unreasonable to suggest that such an entity, political force, etc. is waging a war against the US, rather than improving it. I mean, what exactly has Bush & Co. improved since being selected...er...elected?

I don't particularly buy into the fear factoring, though. There have been precursors to NSPD 51/HSPD-20. It's mainly tossed out there, probably, to prevent any "funny" ideas by would-be militants, keep everyone quiet, stifle even verbal protest, cause people to censor themselves, etc.

That said, if Bush & Co. had genuine high ratings, like in the 75%+ range, I'd probably cut my losses and move to New Zealand or something. But the great majority of Americans on the street don't like what they stand for, and therein is our security from tyranny.

jove4015:
"Sorry observer but that is truly foolish…" the time long passed to open our eyes.
Shock of suspended elections is the best thing we can hope for in the country of 200 million registered guns.
This is what a Second Amendment for. Freedom from fear cannot be achieved by resorting to fear.

"Why wait for ultimate carnage?" Cause we waited 60 years too long. Nothing comes without price. Only American people might remove militarists, imperial presidency included, without risking nuclear holocaust. So, ultimate carnage on the scale of 1933 or 1968 or even more, is much more preferable than what is going now elsewhere and what will most definitely come here. Besides, we do not have choice. We cannot wait while morons play with nuclear toys. "Just call up your congress[wo]man"! Really? If you are scared, they scared even more.

As I read these comments day in day out I see piles and piles of never-ending criticisms on Bush and Cheney for their commission of illegal actions and other crimes against humanity and the American people, so much so that I'm really getting bored. One needs to read something new other than the biography of criminals over and over again, even if the crime happens to be a new one. Why don't you just impeach Cheney and that other son of a bush, and get it over with?

As I intimated in another thread on this forum, it's a bit late for impeachment. Congress has already forfeited its power to impeach; neither Bush nor Cheney would acknowledge a bill of impeachment as constitutionally binding. I do agree with kelmer's intimation that Bush might cancel elections. NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51 and HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20 require only an anthrax mailing sufficient to alarm the population into supporting a presidential declaration of "catastrophic emergency" and a subsequent suspension of elections.

Bush's war on America is no secret, neither is the complicity of congress, by its failure to act as it should and bring the administration under control as established by the constitution of the country.

Every week I learn about another FBI memo or other evidence that Bush is spying on Food Not Bombs. The ACLU found FBI memos showing they disrupted our effort to organize an International Gathering. The New York Tims reported that the FBI monitored the Food Not Bombs website and an FBI agented showed a PowerPoint presentation during a class at the Univeristy of Texas which showed that Food Not Bombs is on the "FBI's Terrorist Watch List." I was taken off a flight from London to Chicago and questioned for over an hour by Homeland Security. They took everything out of my wallet and input the names and phone numbers in to their computer. "The Lives Of Others" could be a movie about the FBI in the United States. I have had many of the same things that you see in the movie happen to me and my friends. Please visit http://www.foodnotbombs.net/spy.html to read some of the FBI and Pentagon memos and learn more about some of the things the government has done to stop Food Not Bombs.

Sorry observer but that is truly foolish.... that's the same logic underlying the "we needed to burn the village, to save the village" mentality. Those expecting a revolution clearly have not thought through the consequences - how many serious civil uprisings against our military have there been in our history? Have any of them gone well? Unless you want many of your family and friends to die, I would not wish for such things so easily.

Why wait for ultimate carnage? Do something now. We can still impeach this guy. Now. If we wanted to. Just call up your congress[wo]man. Not like they're doing much of anything else anyway.

A litle off topic, but i've been recently wondering if this disaster of a presidency might take some of the reverence away from the office.

I'm a Canadian (as I often feel compelled to mention when commenting here), and we don't have anywhere near the reverence - approaching that bestowed upon royalty - for our prime ministers that Americans seem to have for their president. Hail to the chief and all that nonsense.

I hope this is the case, because reverence for the office is, well, first of all IMHO rathy silly, but secondly helps to give presidents the ability to mis-lead, as they are not subject to intense scrutiny out of respect for the "Office of the President" woo-hoo!

Interested in comments from fellow readers.

2cents

Bush canceling election might be the best thing that happen to the US. For we need not only shock but quite a shock. Normal politician would not dare to suspend 230 years of tradition even in such dimmed country America has become.

But Bush and his clack are not normal politicians, neither American military. They all were brought up in delusional world created by long propaganda and unexpected godsend collapse of the USSR. So they may try. And then let the hell break loose, for it most definitely will.

Bring 'em on, Lil Bush, bring 'em on. That will be the last look of our oligarchy. So I hope.

let's not forget the NYTimes sat on the illegal wiretapping story for a year-thru the 2004 election season.

Just think when he is out of office(unless he cancels elections) all the new stuff that will spill out. Its probably worse than we imagine--as bad as it is now.

Isn't it wonderful how they've got us on the floor under their table fighting over their scraps?

Speaking of sports, I always wondered how the United States could be so ethnocentric as to only allow "American" baseball teams to participate in the "World Series"?

There are not enough people that care what happenes to their kids and grandchildren, I have mine ,to hell with everyone else, is their mindset. So... what can you expect from a generation like this. My business was put under from transanational corporations that wreck the local economy and move on to the next place.Raise hell, bitch and gripe all you want. But until we make our representives accountable for what they do and get a clear idea of whom they are working for this will continue to go on!!!!!!!!

If Bush is above the law and can change the rules as he proceeds, why can't we the people change the rules to be like those on "Survivor" where the majority can vote the village idiot off of the island??

Is my understanding of Whitton's article off or does it say that if Bush had been forced out over these resignations, then Kerry probably would have been elected and the war in Iraq would be over? Are we talking about the same John Kerry that said the war was a good idea but that Bush just didn't fight it correctly? Are we talking about the same guy who asked how a country of conscience could ask a soldier to be the last one to die in a war based on a lie (referring to Vietnam)? Yet all of those Dems keep saying "you just can't pull out?" I remember those tired mantras from Vietnam days. Remember it was Johnson, a Democrat, who escalated the war in Vietnam after JFK's murder (and we're still waiting to officially hear the names of those in the shadow government that pulled that one off)--and like others, I believe that this is where all the present mess we're in originated. Let the shadowy ones get by with murdering the president, drug running, killing heads of state, eventually they don't even bother to hide their corrupt practices. No, out of respect to all the old Democrats who tried to enact programs for the people, such as Social Security-- I say, I'd rather a Republican destroy the country than a Republican Lite Democrat. If Kerry were our last best hope, well....thanks, but no thanks.

edit -- should read "off of the island??"

Bush is the symptom, not the disease. Until Americans realize they are living under a corporate fascist dictatorship it doesn't matter who's in office. Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? Both bought and paid for by Rupert Murdoch in his hope to install a B grade television actor in the oval office. The disease has to be stopped at the source.

The majority of the citizens of the United States does not vote. That is a fact, whether one likes it or not.

Most citizens have thus renounced their status as citizens and settled for being mere consumers.

If disHonorable Bush were to suspend the next presidential election, why would the greater part of the citizenry miss a power it has already relinquished?

Am I missing something?

Not sure that Clinton or Obama are corporate fascists, although they take funding from them; Obama is not allowed to be much more than a Chicago Mafia puppet. We all know that Democrats usually appease the fascists (starting with Johnson). But Bush most definitely is a corporate fascist himself, and as mentioned above, Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld is only the symptom of a much larger corporate fascist problem, with international connections and support. Money trumps peace, said the Bush as it snickered. Some Republicans are already blaming Bush because he got caught, and they are disowning him because they only stick with friends when they are winners. But the dying limbs are cut off so the rest of the unconscious and primal instinctive Republican organism can feed from its remains and grow more rich and powerful... why they like to show movies of predatory animals and people on TV and movies.... like The Terminator, Conan the Barbarian, Gladiator movies, etc.... their ideological role models, and their true religion. Such beings have been called Troglodytes in various references. And so we have 'Trogs on the Loose', sacking Washington, New York, Chicago, New Orleans, Los Angeles ....

In the thirties and before, the robber barons ran the country. They hated Roosevelt for trying to help the American People. They didn't and don't believe in Social Security, Medicare, Educational Aid or anything else that helps the common man. They fought it with every weapon at their disposal. The McCarthy era dawned and thousands of Americans were persecuted and blacklisted for not following the party line here. Anyone, teachers, union officials, writers, could be accused as a communist by HUAC and they were ostracized, lost their jobs, families left them. Many committed suicide. Thousands of others were blacklisted and unemployable. Finally, McCarthy overreached himself, was exposed and faded into history. Everyone breathed a huge sigh of relief and we vowed that nothing like that would ever happen again. We reaffirmed the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The rights of man would not be trampled again, we had learned our lesson.

That was almost fifty years ago, but some of the same people who had authored the McCarthy era were biding their time. They and their heirs do not believe in any social contract. No Social Security, no Medicare, no minimum wage. They would like to do away with unions. To these people, there are no nations, no governments, no international laws, no treaties, there is just business. The only evil is to interfere with business and profits. These people nurtured an ignorant illiterate, with the classic behavior of a schoolyard bully, through his entire life, protected him through his various schemes, helped him dodge Vietnam service, absorbed his financial losses, destroyed his competition and now their investment has paid off. They made him President of the United States!

Since then, they have put together a winning combination. You cannot vote out Social Security. That is political suicide, but you can give all the money in the treasury to the filthy rich through tax breaks and other giveaways, give still more billions to the arms manufacturers, the Military-Industrial-Congressional-Oil Complex, to the Pentagon, and finally, one day, Uncle Sam turns his pockets inside out and says, "Sorry America, but we can't pay Social Security, or Medicare, or any other benefits, because we're broke! Ha, ha, ha!! So there."

Once again the robber barons will have it all and the people will be fighting for whatever crumbs may fall from the passing limos.

EveningLand: Nope, you are not missing it at all. Ya told it like it is. But at times the truth does hurt.

As long as impeachment is off the table there will never be any accountability of this White House. Pelosi has insured that Bush can continue to do anything he wants and perhaps is even aiding the destruction of our Constitutional form of government, by taking the stick away. It's sad but it's a fact.

...addendum:

And all wars are UN-civil too!

xx

arab writes: "You just have fun genociding our peoples you terrorists."

-Merely blaming others in a hate-filled way does not succeed in anything other than cause more rifts in the human family.
Tell me Arab, are you yourself totally without 'blame' in every aspect of your life?
Are you 100% perfect in everything?

I think not!

~ Like *all of us* little humans, (both you and I) we ALL have a lot of faults! :(

Please know that the people who post here are mostly *part of the solution*, -and not mostly the problem.

In these difficult times, many good people here are genuinely striving to find the answers. Please try to get over your hatred 'Arab', otherwise YOU are just as much a part of the problem as any other malevolent being who is causing suffering, division, and pain on this little planet.

Hatred and rabid pointing of fingers does no good at all, does it?
Does it cure anything?
Do wars and divisions ever 'cure' any problems?

~ I think not.

Therefore, Mr Arab, please try to HELP us, by JOINING with us, -we who are trying to put right what is wrong in the world.
That way you (personally) will feel better, and the world will be that little bit improved -all in one day! :)

So maybe try voicing some useful, constructive, helpful thoughts here?
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[Nb: this is written by someone who is not an American, but, -just like you, is equally a member of the human FAMILY.]

(PS) - two 'thoughts for today':

1. "You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake."

2. "ALL wars are civil wars."

To those who think that all will come out if a Democrat is elected President in 2008, I'd place a small wager that Hillary, Obama or Edwards would all come out and say that its important not to be divisive and that there will be no investigations or prosectutions.

That's what Bill Clinton did after 1992. And its the Dem leadership in Congress that is the only think blocking impeachment today.

These guys know the Dem leadership has their back.

Form another political party, the other two have been bought lock, stock and barrel by the well heeled and corporate america. Either that or have another revolution. I like those fellows up in Vermont who want to ceceded and become the Republic of Vermont. If you don't want to fight for your freedom then join the slaves!!
Otherwise don't look to the Democrats for your liberation, they are part of the occupying force. Years ago someone of note said one day the Soviets would be lurching towards a democracy while the United States would be sliding effortlessly to dictatorship, he was laughed at then but it is true. Another Empire on the decline, never mind, the fundamentalists will continue the name just like the early Christian church did with the Roman empire..

Blogs are not action. We need action, desperately.