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Point of Return: Israeli Generals and Intel Officials Oppose Attack on Iran
WASHINGTON - Pro-Israeli journalist Jeffrey Goldberg's article in "The
Atlantic" magazine was evidently aimed at showing why the
Barack Obama administration should worry that it risks an
attack by the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
on Iran in the coming months unless it takes a much more
menacing line toward Iran's nuclear programme.
But the article provides new evidence that senior figures in the Israeli intelligence and military leadership oppose such a strike against Iran and believe that Netanyahu's apocalyptic rhetoric about an Iranian nuclear threat as an "existential threat" is unnecessary and self-defeating.
Although not reported by Goldberg, Israeli military and
intelligence figures began to express their opposition to
such rhetoric on Iran in the early 1990s, and Netanyahu
acted to end such talk when he became prime minister in
1996.
The Goldberg article also reveals extreme Israeli
sensitivity to any move by Obama to publicly demand that
Israel desist from such a strike, reflecting the reality
that the Israeli government could not go ahead with any
strike without being assured of U.S. direct involvement in
the war with Iran.
Goldberg argues that a likely scenario some months in the
future is that Israeli officials will call their U.S.
counterparts to inform them that Israeli planes are already
on their way to bomb Iranian nuclear sites.
The Israelis would explain that they had "no choice", he
writes, because "a nuclear Iran poses the gravest threat
since Hitler to the physical survival of the Jewish people."
He claims the "consensus" among present and past Israeli
leaders is that the chances are better than 50/50 that
Israel "will launch a strike by next July", based on
interviews with 40 such Israeli decision-makers.
Goldberg is best known for hewing to the neoconservative
line in his reporting on Iraq, particularly in his
insistence that that Saddam Hussein had extensive ties with
al Qaeda.
Goldberg quotes an Israeli official familiar with
Netanyahu's thinking as saying, "In World War II, the Jews
had no power to stop Hitler from annihilating us. Six
million were slaughtered. Today, six million Jews live in
Israel, and someone is threatening them with annihilation."
In his interview with Goldberg for this article, however,
Netanyahu does not argue that Iran might use nuclear weapons
against Israel. Instead he argues that Hezbollah and Hamas
would be able to "fire rockets and engage in other terror
activities while enjoying a nuclear umbrella".
But Israel relies on conventional forces - not nuclear
deterrence - against Hezbollah and Hamas, making that
argument entirely specious.
Goldberg reports that other Israeli leaders, including
defence minister Ehud Barack, acknowledge the real problem
with the possibility of a nuclear Iran is that it would
gradually erode Israel's ability to retain its most talented
people.
But that problem is mostly self-inflicted. Goldberg concedes
that Israeli generals with whom he talked "worry that talk
of an 'existential threat' is itself a kind of existential
threat to the Zionist project, which was meant to preclude
such threats against the Jewish people."
A number of sources told Goldberg, moreover, that Gabi
Ashkenazi, the Israeli army chief of staff, doubts "the
usefulness of an attack".
Top Israeli intelligence officials and others responsible
for policy toward Iran have long argued, in fact, that the
kind of apocalyptic rhetoric that Netanyahu has embraced in
recent years is self-defeating.
Security correspondent Ronen Bergman reported in Yediot
Ahronot, Israel's most popular newspaper, in July 2009 that
former chief of military intelligence Major General Aharon
Zeevi Farkash said the Israeli public perception of the
Iranian nuclear threat had been "distorted".
Farkash and other military intelligence and Mossad officials
believe Iran's main motive for seeking a nuclear weapons
capability was not to threaten Israel but to "deter U.S.
intervention and efforts at regime change", according to
Bergman.
The use of blatantly distorted rhetoric about Iran as a
threat to Israel - and Israeli intelligence officials'
disagreement with it - goes back to the early 1990s, when
the Labour Party government in Israel began a campaign to
portray Iran's missile and nuclear programmes as an
"existential threat" to Israel, as Trita Parsi revealed in
his 2007 book "Treacherous Alliance".
An internal Israeli inter-ministerial committee formed in
1994 to make recommendations on dealing with Iran concluded
that Israeli rhetoric had been "self-defeating", because it
had actually made Iran more afraid of Israel, and more
hostile toward it, Parsi writes.
Ironically, it was Netanyahu who decided to stop using such
rhetoric after becoming prime minister the first time in
mid-1996. Mossad director of intelligence Uzi Arad convinced
him that Israel had a choice between making itself Iran's
enemy or allowing Iran to focus on threats from other
states.
Netanyahu even sought Kazakh and Russian mediation between
Iran and Israel.
But he reversed that policy when he became convinced that
Tehran was seeking a rapprochement with Washington, which
Israeli leaders feared would result in reduced U.S. support
for Israel, according to Parsi's account. As a result,
Netanyahu reverted to the extreme rhetoric of his
predecessors.
That episode suggests that Netanyahu is perfectly capable of
grasping the intelligence community's more nuanced analysis
of Iran, contrary to his public stance that the Iranian
threat is the same as that from Hitler's Germany.
Netanyahu administration officials used Goldberg to convey
the message to the Americans that they didn't believe Obama
would launch an attack on Iran, and therefore Israel would
have to do so.
But Israel clearly cannot afford to risk a war with Iran
without the assurance that the United States being committed
to participate in it. That is why the Israeli lobby in
Washington and its allies argue that Obama should support an
Israeli strike, which would mean that he would have to
attack Iran with full force if it retaliates against such an
Israeli strike.
The knowledge that Israel could not attack Iran without U.S.
consent makes Israeli officials extremely sensitive about
the possibility that Obama would explicitly reject an
Israeli strike
Goldberg reports that "several Israeli officials" told him
they were worried that U.S. intelligence might learn about
Israeli plans to strike Iran "hours" before the scheduled
launch.
The officials told Goldberg that if Obama were to say, "We
know what you're doing. Stop immediately," Israel might have
to back down.
Goldberg alludes only vaguely to the possibility that the
threat of an attack on Iran is a strategy designed to
manipulate both Iran and the United States. In a March 2009
article in The Atlantic online, however, he was more
straightforward, conceding that the Netanyahu threat to
strike Iran if the United States failed to stop the Iranian
nuclear programme could be a "tremendous bluff".



37 Comments so far
Show AllI can't imagine that if Iran were imminently about to acquire the ability to make a nuclear weapon, Israel would not preemptively launch a limited strike, as it has done against Iraq, to nullify that ability. And I can't imagine that it would stand down because the United States asked it to.
A nuclear weapon in the hands of the lunatic Iranian government would be a disaster, not only for Israel, but for the entire middle east.
And what should we call several hundred nuclear weapons in the hands of the PROVEN lunatic government of Israel? As far as I know Iran (though led by someone just as crazy as neocon NetanYahoo) never attacked it's neighbors with airstrikes, including killing civilians, never attacked a flotilla of aid workers, and so on.
NETanYAHOO...............PRICELESS !!!!
Unfortunately, Israel's strike on Osirak in 1981 did not nullify Iraq's desire to acquire weapons of mass destruction, but rather strengthened it - hence all the fuss about WMD in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
A nuclear weapon in the hands of any lunatic would indeed be a disaster. The Iranian government may be nasty, but they are not lunatics.
The government of Israel deserves the same adjective (LUNATIC)as you have ascribed to that of Iran. More so, actually.
I can't imagine that Mr Beckerman could conceivably back up his preposterous last sentence with anything remotely resembling facts and rational factual analysis.
Mr. Beckerman, Here are 13 items (since it is Fri 13th) I hope you take note of:
1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.
2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.
3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.
4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.
5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.
6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.
7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.
8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.
9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.
10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.
11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.
12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States.
13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries!
MASTERFUL TRUTHTELLING! Many thanks.
When you think about it... the United States is the only country to have ever used a nuclear weapon in armed combat.
In a war that it was already winning.
Does that qualify as 'lunatic'?
But the "sane" U.S. (which remains the ONLY nation to use nuclear weapons, and on civilians, TWICE) and the nuclear-armed Israelis, who refuse to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (which Iran HAS signed and abides by), are to be trusted?
Stop your absurd double standard!
How many other countries has Iran attacked in the last 200 years?
How many has Israel attacked since 1948?
How many has the U.S. attacked since 1945?
RayBeckerman: “A nuclear weapon in the hands of the lunatic Iranian government would be a disaster, not only for Israel, but for the entire middle east.”
I hate to be unkind, but fanatics like Jeff Goldberg and Ray Beckerman are perfect illustrations of why an expansionist, nuclear-armed Israel, not Iran, poses an imminent existential threat to all of us.
Unfortunately, these fanatics have largely controlled debate on our Middle East policy until now. If that doesn’t change soon, Americans are going to find themselves trapped in a holocaust they never bargained for.
I thought I just read somewhere that Russia is preparing to bring an Iranian nuclear facility online. Um, wouldn't an Israeli attack on such a facility be an attack on Russia as well as Iran? And isn't that a bad thing, as in Not-so-cold-war part 2?
yup. maybe gonna be some show in da starry night this month and it aint no meteor shower.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/08/2010813145028423645.html
also repeated at truthdig:
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/start_it_up_20100813/
quote
The power plant, built by Russia in the Iranian southern city of Bushehr, will be loaded with uranium-packed fuel rods after nearly 40 years of delays, a spokesman for Rosatom, the Russian atomic agency, said on Friday.
“The fuel will be charged in the reactor on August 21. From this moment, Bushehr will be considered a nuclear installation. This will be an irreversible step,” Sergei Novikov told the AFP news agency.
Ali Akbar Salehi, the head Iran’s atomic energy organisation, said: “We are preparing to transfer the fuel inside the plant next week ... Then we will need seven to eight days to transfer it to the core of the reactor.”
unquote
Yes, Russia "is bringing online" an Iranian nuclear reactor. Additionally, Russia recently provided the Iranians with S-300 anti-aircraft missiles. If these S-300 sites are manned by Russian military, then, yes, "an Israeli attack on such a facility [would] be an attack on Russia as well as Iran." What may motivate the U.S. to allow an Israeli attack, however, is that the Chinese are a year away from deploying the Dong Feng 21 anti-aircraft carrier missile. A modified IRBM with maneuverable warhead, it is unstoppable because of its speed and relatively small size, yet devastating to an aircraft carrier because big enough to carry a significant conventional charge.
Relevantly,
"Because the missile employs a complex guidance system, low radar signature and a maneuverability that makes its flight path unpredictable, the odds that it can evade tracking systems to reach its target are increased. It is estimated that the missile can travel at mach 10 and reach its maximum range of 2000km in less than 12 minutes." [http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2223306/posts]
Assuming Chinese deployment of the S-300 in Iran--not unreasonable given continuous Chinese support for Iran--and Chinese manning of the batteries because of newness of the missles, an attack on these missiles would be an attack on China. Factoring in the Russian S-300 anti-aircraft missiles as well, however, little time remains for U.S. military dominance in the Middle East. This waning, little time remains for Israeli dominance in the Middle East. Arrogant foxes bring forbidding chickens home to roost.
Although I cannot prove my hypothesis I firmly believe that our own top military brass also has been and still is opposed to starting a war with Iran.
With regards to whose "hands are on nuclear weapons in the Middle East" the definition of whose hands are "lunatic" (see Ray Beckerman) depends entirely on the view of the beholder.
An interesting article, that I must reread a couple of times to try to unravel the John le Carré-like twists and turns of the plotting (in both senses of the word).
One subtext to all this is the fact that there is no treaty of mutual defense between Israel and the USA. If there were, of course, both countries would have to grow up and stop throwing their toys out of the pram every time someone disagreed with them. As there isn't, lobbying, lies and manipulation are the order of the day, when it comes to getting people to back you up.
Maybe Israel's worried that the sugar teat will dry up. And at the rate it's going, it will.
Let's see what happens with AIPAC. If Bill Kristol, Lieberman, Obama, Emmanuel, Clinton etc. still push for war, then it's a PR stunt by Israel.
Remember the USS Liberty!
De-Countrify Israel Now and force Zionists to pay Reparations.
Israel knows that an attack would mean Iran would throw everything it has on Tel Aviv even if the US backed the Attack it would be suicide for Israel.
Then the Arabs who have a bone to pick would decide the future of the middle East..
I also have been seeing this as bluff and distraction to delay any US/Iran understandings and keep the world's eyes off Palestine's let my people go already struggle.
The real threat is as Fidel Castro has warned, is if as planned Iran's ships are forcefully boarded by whoever.
He is saying he did not think a great civilization could be pushed around and would not comply with force.
This is the same set-up that JFK faced in the missile crises Soviet ship blockade.... we are sailing in the same waters now.
It is an opportunity for Obama to become a peace president and make a deal for peace with Iran like JFK did with Russia/Cuba.
In that case, the world is doomed.
Look out!! Someones getting ichy. www.debka.com/article/8961/
The Cuban Missile Crisis was solved because of a secret deal Kennedy made with Khrushchev to remove our missiles from Turkey – which apparently was Khrushchev’s goal all along, since the Soviets viewed these missiles as a major threat.
Khrushchev removed his missiles from Cuba and, when the media found something else that would sell advertising, Kennedy ordered our missiles removed from Turkey.
I'll bet this latest (Iran) crisis could be solved, if Israel would remove their missiles from . . . well, Israel . . . along with those arming their navy and air force assets.
ah, there is a god..............
Great article. Already analysts discussing various gambits in their chess game of horror. Modern weaponry, wings of death and suffering viewed through the eyes of madmen. I wonder if they ever calculate the wounded women and children, the despair. Would we join in if Israel led the attack? The US military surrounds Iran on all sides.
How did we let these mad men take over the show?
Corporal Jeffrey Goldberg's military title refers to his service in Israel's IDF. He wouldn't dream of serving in the US military though he has tons of advice on the benefits of getting the US into a war against Iran.
What if Israel gave a war and no one came?
It is a sovereign state and allowed to make these kinds of decisions no matter how ill considered, but does that mean the US is required to back them up especially since US is rather busy at the moment dealing with it's own issues?
Or do the Israeli's know where too many of the skeletons in the US closet are? CIA and Mossad have been in bed together for a long time.
Since Israel does not have aircraft carriers, and its attack aircraft and Tomahawk missiles aboard its submarines do not have the range to attack Iranian nuclear sites from the Persian Gulf, Iraq must be crossed to get to the Iranian sites. Crossing Iraq is possible only if the U.S. is complicit in the strike. Sovereignty is an abstract, not substantive concept. Being abstract, it can exist as one wills, but it cannot alter the physical requirements of an Israeli act of aggression against Iran.
hillary says "we have unbreakable ties with israel." yes! our two govenments know too much about one another. check out the aipac lobby which has much more influence over foreign policy than the voting sheeple who proudly vote deluding ourselves that our opinion matters when all we decide is which of the political class get to ride the gravy train.
greed for money and power!
that's the tie that BIND$!
I remember not too long ago, I read something the US had published which stated or inferred that if Iran were attacked and it responded to the attack, that would be considered an act of war and the US would retaliate.
In other words, if Israel attacks Iran and bombs its reactors and military bases, Iran is to let it go, or be annihilated by the US for having the temerity to fight back.
If that isn't Orwellian cum Nazi, I don't know what it is.
I had stopped following the developments around Iran's nuclear reactor at Bushehr. The news that the Russians will start this reactor is a wake up call and is probably one of the factors in Israel's "tough talk" to influence U. S. policy to harden even more against Iran. That seems to have failed. Whereas the Obama administration sort of "regrets" the start up of that reactor, its reaction is really tepid.
You appear unconcerned about the Israeli nuclear arsenal, one of the largest in the world.
War with Iran hinges on who will pay for it.
If Obama can get the Chinese bankers to fork over the life savings of a billion peasants so that Israel and US can bomb Iran back to the stone age, then it will be done.
Israel and US are financially broke, and all along the Chinese have been paying for the destructions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Leave Iran alone! (Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh)
humming :
"greed for money and power!
that's the tie that BIND$!"
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A conspiracy (two or more people plotting, in secret) to gain money and power. Yes, that is a tie which BINDS!
And the Powerful Elite of the WORLD - not one country or another - will bind together against 'the peoples'. They will not cause plagues that can spread to themselves (literally), nor do they need to use FP and DU and Napalm... they just need 'climate change'. (See Tesla)
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Using nukes will destroy the air water and soil.... as the death floats around earth... as well as despoiling the lands 'we' might want to occupy and control.
Be so foolish to cause a nuclear collision.. America is 'all in one place'.... and has many who will attack her from various places. At the same time.
We can say "Stop our enemies - turn Iran to glass" (actually some might be forgiven for thinking : hey, wait a minute, WE are THEIR enemies!)
But whoever starts nuking large scale will die by that same 'sword'.. of course. That is some consolation to we little people!
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Anyone else sick of being manipulated by these barbarian, warmongering, war criminal zionists? They take our tax money and weapons, and spit in our face. If they want to start wars in Lebanon, Iran, Gaza or anywhere else, then they'd better be prepared to take the consequences and not come running to hide behind the US. We have our hands full with wars against two other Muslim nations--partly because of zionist pressure--and we don't need another. The only reason Israel goes to war instead of trying diplomacy is because its ulterior motives are to steal all the land between Jordan and the sea--and the Arabs know it. The US Congress is a shameful bunch of sycophants, taking campaign money in exchange for war votes. How many more US lives will it sacrifice for the zionist agenda?
Who tried to sell Iran a nuclear power plant prior to the Russians? Well that would be America. If you rearrange the letters, change one vowel, Zion is Nazi and the Warsaw ghetto is Gaza. The Zionists actually believe the tripe of the old testament and know the middle east belongs to them.