The Senate today -- led by Jay Rockefeller, enabled by Harry Reid, and with the active support of at least 12 (and probably more) Democrats, in conjunction with an as-always lockstep GOP caucus -- will vote to legalize warrantless spying on the telephone calls and emails of Americans, and will also provide full retroactive amnesty to lawbreaking telecoms, thus forever putting an end to any efforts to investigate and obtain a judicial ruling regarding the Bush administration's years-long illegal spying programs aimed at Americans. The long, hard efforts by AT&T, Verizon and their all-star, bipartisan cast of lobbyists to grease the wheels of the Senate -- led by former Bush 41 Attorney General William Barr and former Clinton Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick -- are about to pay huge dividends, as such noble efforts invariably do with our political establishment.
It's worth taking a step back and recalling that all of this is the result of the December, 2005 story by the New York Times which first reported that the Bush administration was illegally spying on Americans for many years without warrants of any kind. All sorts of "controversy" erupted from that story. Democrats everywhere expressed dramatic, unbridled outrage, vowing that this would not stand. James Risen and Eric Lichtblau were awarded Pulitzer Prizes for exposing this serious lawbreaking. All sorts of Committees were formed, papers written, speeches given, conferences convened, and editorials published to denounce this extreme abuse of presidential power. This was illegality and corruption at the highest level of government, on the grandest scale, and of the most transparent strain.
What was the outcome of all of that sturm und drang? What were the consequences for the President for having broken the law so deliberately and transparently? Absolutely nothing. To the contrary, the Senate is about to enact a bill which has two simple purposes: (1) to render retroactively legal the President's illegal spying program by legalizing its crux: warrantless eavesdropping on Americans, and (2) to stifle forever the sole remaining avenue for finding out what the Government did and obtaining a judicial ruling as to its legality: namely, the lawsuits brought against the co-conspiring telecoms. In other words, the only steps taken by our political class upon exposure by the NYT of this profound lawbreaking is to endorse it all and then suppress any and all efforts to investigate it and subject it to the rule of law.
To be sure, achieving this took some time. When Bill Frist was running the Senate and Pat Roberts was in charge of the Intelligence Committee, Bush and Cheney couldn't get this done (the same FISA and amnesty bill that the Senate will pass today stalled in the 2006 Senate). They had to wait until the Senate belonged (nominally) to Harry Reid and, more importantly, Jay Rockefeller was installed as Committee Chairman, and then -- and only then -- were they able to push the Senate to bequeath to them and their lawbreaking allies full-scale protection from investigation and immunity from the consequences of their lawbreaking.
That's really the most extraordinary aspect of all of this, if one really thinks about it -- it isn't merely that the Democratic Senate failed to investigate or bring about accountability for the clearest and more brazen acts of lawbreaking in the Bush administration, although that is true. Far beyond that, once in power, they are eagerly and aggressively taking affirmative steps -- extraordinary steps -- to protect Bush officials. While still knowing virtually nothing about what they did, they are acting to legalize Bush's illegal spying programs and put an end to all pending investigations and efforts to uncover what happened.
How far we've come -- really: disgracefully tumbled -- from the days of the Church Committee, which aggressively uncovered surveillance abuses and then drafted legislation to outlaw them and prevent them from ever occurring again. It is, of course, precisely those post-Watergate laws which the Bush administration and their telecom conspirators purposely violated, and for which they are about to receive permanent, lawless protection.
What Harry Reid's Senate is about to do today would be tantamount to the Church Committee -- after discovering the decades of abuses of eavesdropping powers by various administrations -- proceeding in response to write legislation to legalize unchecked surveillance, bar any subjects of the illegal eavesdropping from obtaining remedies in court, and then pass a bill with no purpose other than to provide retroactive immunity for the surveillance lawbreakers. That would be an absurd and incomparably corrupt nonsequitur, but that is precisely what Harry Reid's Senate -- in response to the NYT's 2005 revelations of clear surveillance lawbreaking by the administration -- is going to do today.
Analogously, in 1973, The Washington Post won the Pulitzer Prize for its work in uncovering the Watergate abuses, and that led to what would have been the imminent bipartisan impeachment of the President until he was forced to resign in disgrace. By stark and depressing contrast, in 2006, Jim Risen, Eric Lichtblau and the NYT won Pulitzer Prizes for their work in uncovering illegal spying on Americans at the highest levels of the Government, and that led to bipartisan legislation to legalize the illegal spying programs and provide full-scale retroactive amnesty for the lawbreakers. That's the difference between a country operating under the rule of law and one that is governed by lawlessness and lawbreaking license for the politically powerful and well-connected.
Chris Dodd went to the Senate floor last night and gave another eloquent and impassioned speech, warning of the consequences for our country from telecom amnesty. He specifically focused on the permanently and comprehensively suppressive effect it will have on efforts to investigate what the Bush administration did in illegally spying on Americans.
At around 2:25, Sen. Dodd quoted from this blog (from this post specifically regarding last week's testimony of Michael Mukasey) concerning the consequences for our country from ensuring, as the Senate is about to do, that such blatant and deliberate governmental lawbreaking is protected and goes forever unpunished (h/t selise):
From Frank Church and the bipartisan oversight protections of the post-Watergate abuses in the mid-1970s to Jay Rockefeller, Dick Cheney, legalized warrantless eavesdropping and retroactive telecom amnesty in 2008 -- that vivid collapse into the sewer illustrates as potently as anything could what has happened to this country over the last eight years.
Glenn Greenwald was previously a constitutional law and civil rights litigator in New York. He is the author of the New York Times Bestselling book "How Would a Patriot Act?," a critique of the Bush administration's use of executive power, released in May 2006. His second book, "A Tragic Legacy", examines the Bush legacy.
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Show AllNever thought I'd ever come to be this ashamed of our nation.
I look forward to exchanging the bush Abomination to a just OBAMA-NATION.
PULL A DONNA EDWARDS ON THESE SENATORS UP FOR RE ELECTION IN 2008!
BAUCUS MT
JOHNSON SD
ROCKEFELLOR WV
PRYOR AK
LANDRIEU LA
Ya know, if someone even got a recall petition drive up and running against Reid, that alone would deliver a message. Of course, it would have to be enough of a threat to make him worry about it.
You'd think the city of Las Vegas would be one of the last places on earth that would support the idea of gov eavesdropping. :)
Which is probably why Reid was a typical politician on this one. After leading the negotiations, after shepparding the bill onto the Senate floor and after rounding up the votes to get it passed, Reid actually voted No.
That just goes to show you can't always trust voting records and the rankings that come from them. Someone will probably do a ranking of the most liberal Senators or some such nonsense and someday I'll see Reid getting credit for opposing this bill on it. You gotta look closer.
Oops, wrong again. Its early in the morning for me and my brain cells aren't firing on all cylinders yet. I knew the name Gray Davis was familiar, but couldn't place it. He of course was the Governor of CA that was recalled and replaced by the Terminator.
I switched to Quest and left AT&T when the story first broke. I'll never go back to AT&T. If your using one of spy companies, drop them now.
Actually, I think I was wrong. The above post saying its a state issues is more correct.
As usual, Google is your friend! I tried searching on 'recall US Senator" and got some interesting results. Apparently it can happen in a few states, and that a Senator named Gray Davis did once face a recall election.
If I'm reading this right (try http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legismgt/elect/recallprovision.htm --- top of the google results), the Reid might be subject to recall. It would take a petition with 25% of the voters who voted in either his election or the last statewide election (can't tell which from this one page)
It has finally happened. The frauds in the Senate
no longer have to hide their treachery toward the
people. While bush and the merry band of cutthroats,
who insist on destroying any reasoned dissent from
the people on any issue, this congress and senate
have taken away the illusion of a fair and just so-
ciety from the people.
The past 30 years have shown the enormous lengths
powerful caitiffs of capitalism will employ when
their policies are questioned.
One can't even state their disagreement of a policy,
law, rule, or social convention without some form of
punishment being administered. The group or person
will face escalatory levels of punishment until con-
formity or death is the end result. When conformity
is chosen, you are exposed to the same character de-
fects a decent parent would reject and correct, if
seen in their own children.
I call this the "Live My Way or Die" belief system.
Dislike or disagreement with a rule or law, dosen't
make one a psychotic or a terrorist. We aren't in
need of fixing. We, The People, simply disagree with
the piles of bile that represent authority.
We, The People, can see through the lies of bullies,
false justifications for violence, and subjugation to
injustice.
We, The People, will not stand for this raping of our
basic freedoms. I personally, ain't going to stand for
this anymore. Freedom of Speech is absolute, as long
as one is on the side of fairness, decency, or right-
eousness. You can't lie to a lier, bully a bully, or
murder a murderer. One only reacts to the above men-
tioned behavior when confronted by it.
If you are accused of something that you didn't do,
you can react in any way proportional to the accu-
sations. While one would be morally wrong for perpe-
trating anothers demise, in any fasion, one is under
no obligation to assist in their prosperity.
If this labels me a carbon based unit that needs to
be fixed or eliminated, so be it. Here I am, home-
land security fucks, come get me. Any harm I, any
individual, or group are accused of, is nonexsistant.
It is only a figment of your twisted, harshly auto-
cratic, demonic need to control all who dissent the
current state of our union.
Fourth Amendment, for your quaint historical pleasure:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Now we know what it must have felt like living in 1930's Germany. The telecom immunity law is not much different than the Enabling Act of 1933 except it is retroactive law. Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, et al, were amateurs compared to our political leaders.
MIMI wrong amendment, that was Dodds Bill, should i say amended amendment of the Amendment S.2248, Obama was a YEA, which is good, no Clinton. That was defeated, so on went S.2248 w/o Dodds amendment, with retroactive immunity. OBAMA NOT VOTING, 3 Not Voting for the important one, since Dodds was screwed already. Obama, he no come, mon.
What is wrong with people in the USA that they cannot vote for a 3rd party? Why does it have to be the 2 party charade? Why can't you see that the Democrats are COMPLETELY corrupted and why is it so hard for you to have a multi party system?
Sorry to say this but how thick can you be.
Why do you not have 100,000 people camped outside Harry Reid home? He is a complete fraud. Is your democracy not worth it?
Sorry folks but we are sick of dead brained Americans trying to rule the world and my message to pregressives in the USA is simply this - Are the Greens really that bad that you can't vote for them?
I use Quest. Use quest. One of the only bigtime companies i know that didn't allow for illegalities by the govt. Am i wrong?
Obama was a nay, Hillary a no vote. Only 59% of dems voted nay.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2008-19
If you can not show leadership in the Senate within your own party, what makes you qualified to be President. The moral hazard here is companies know they can depend on government to protect them if they follow orders to do something illegal, and they did so before 9/11, not just after. The only one punished was the Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio who refused to spy on citizens w/o a warrant before 9/11 and who has been convicted on charges for insider trading where the evidence could very well have been acquired by illegal spying, or not. Insider trading. Give me a break, how common do you think that is.
California Dems are probably scared to death government is going to nuke them and blame it on Iran and say it could have been prevented if not for the stalling of Dems on this important bill. Think anything will change even with a Dem President?. No. Most are terrorized, and some are just Traitors, both of my states Senators voted Nay (only 6 states had both Senators voting Nay). Maybe that's why they support the Homegrown Terrorism Act.
Hillary, you may now go home, your no vote did not fool anyone. Obama's nay may not have meant anything either, but at least he voted one way or another.
Wish I could say I was surprised. Its all over except the fat lady singing.
It is interesting that 25 House republicans have announced their retirement, the highest number since 1952. Do they know something we don't, like maybe there will not be any need for Congress next year? National Emergency eliminating constitutional government being planned?
Makes you wonder if this would happen before or after the 2008 elections.
Damn, I need to change my name to WTF but its already taken. I'll just say it WTF!!! Eff all of em. Rockefeller and Reid and the 12 (or more) DESPOTCRATS ~ may they toss and turn sleeplessly as they rot in Hell. This s%^*t really brings out the salty old parrot in me.
I think Tsunami February has hit on a good point. It's becoming increasing clear by the behavior of Reid and Pelosi that Bushco 'has something' on them. Blackmail, bribes, threats, all the above. And/or R&P remember all to well that the only people to receive anthrax letters were Democrats who opposed the Patriot Act and then immediately supported it after the threats. Or maybe they remember what happened to Paul Wellstone. The monsters who run this country now are in an all or nothing, life or death run to the end. As for Jay Rockefeller, don't forget who his family is and what one of their clan related to Arron Russo.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609
Everyone needs to stop supporting these criminals and terrorists in our government and not send them a penny in federal taxes. They have even given us the laws to support this in the numerous anti-terrorism laws which forbid giving material support to groups who commit acts of terrorism. And they have committed those acts by their own definition i.e. destruction of civilian infrastructure (also a war crime) and terrorizing the civilian population with 'shock and awe'. I'm sure an astute legal researcher could find more examples. Hmm, I suppose then they'll just give themselves some more of that retroactive i-juice.
Revolution is nigh!
The Stockholm Syndrome is captivating Americans. Have you ever heard a chicken rationalize? :-)
Everyone, PLEASE, overwhelm your legislators inboxes and voicemails. Do not stop until you get a response. Do not stop after that. WE must hold them accountable, which means put on the pressure. WE CANNOT SIT BACK AND WATCH THIS HAPPEN WITHOUT BECOMING AS VOCAL AS WE CAN BRING OURSELVES TO BE. "Pots and pans in the streets", for example.
kloshe nanitch
imagine arriving at a moment when you have to look back and wish bill frist was still there to help us
Now we know the main reason for the eavesdropping and spying! Now they are using what they learned to blackmail the Congress/Senate. I hope to wake up now, this has to be a nightmare.
Hey Democrat voting (Hillary or Obama) American sheep,
The democratic Party is complicit in everything you have been complaining about during the last 7 years. And yet you are "proud" supporters of the party.
Long live American sheep.
America is now a human version of Animal Farm. The pigs are running the show and tyranny rules.
Unlike Animal Farm, there will be no happy ending. The pigs will dominate and the sheeple will dance to their tune.
Is there a Martin Luther King out there, someone who can rouse the sheeple, show them the way, fire them up, make them realize that the answer lies in their hands? I keep hoping!
Question is: has America already passed the tipping point?
www.dangerouscreation.com
O roe,
I know how you feel. I think many of us know how you feel.
It's just another cut in our "death by a thousand cuts" system. And note - it is a system. The problems are systemic and voting for A or B or C will not change it. Those who have deluded us into thinking so...well, there is a special place in Hell reserved for them.
Look, Thomas Jefferson knew that we would face this again. So, I think, did Ben Franklin, as did others. Democracies can't last forever, especially when the people are so disconnected and drugged. We must each start doing the little and not so little things we can each do to become independent from this system. Buy less. Buy second hand. Pay less taxes. Grown an organic garden. Quit your job that you have to commute to, and get a job close by (and maybe bike or walk to). And for Christ sake - dump Verizon! Should have done that months ago anyway!
The point is, we have given away our power. We can start taking it back, one person at a time. Neither the Democrats nor the Greens nor Moveon.org nor any other organization can possibly restore what is ours. It's up to us and always has been.
The revolution has started. If we all join in and do our bit, then it will be a velvet revolution. If we wait and fail to act NOW...
You left out my traitorous senator, Robert Casey Jr,, [D-PA], Obama was a NO VOTE! Yes Clinton was a NO VOTE< mentioned by a preceding poster, Barack, NOT VOTING.
Very rigging Presidential.
I so swore, that if this occurred THE END, MF'ers. After Mukasey and the denying of acceptance of a subpoena from Congress, from CONGRESS!! WTF is going on, we are finished. thwarting our Judicial System, forget about it with Miers and the other putz, "Sorry we do not accept your subpoenas", what kind of shit is that?
I said it once, I told all of them today, I abide by the paper fold-up pocket version I carry with me of the Constitution, flip over THE "BILL OF RIGHTS" and oyher Amendments and amended Amendments, FU with the redacted version, arrest me, whatever the Fk you want I abide by this piece of paper and not a thing other than that.
Spellcheck monitor, my words are misspelled, I could give a F$$K, if you feel like reminding me of what I misspelled, FU, beter things to worry about right about now....
You have nothing to lose but your shackles.
COMarc February 12th, 2008 6:43 pm
"These are the ones who agreed to publicly declare themselves to be traitors to make sure this passes. But they aren't the only ones."
You have said it plain. The Overseers have "fired" the electorate. They know they have been successful because they are part of a MACHINE that produces CANDIDATES who are nothing more than Baskin Robbins. Totally interchangeable flavors of the same product. It's all ice cream and it's all made of sawdust. AND if they do take a hit for Master at the polling station, well, they are "on the team" and Master always takes care of members of the TEAM. MASTER can even fix it for them when they are convicted Felons. You may have noticed that many in the Bush Crime Family/White House are and have been convicted felons. Habitual offenders I believe is the phrase.
POTS & PANS IN THE STREETS.
SHUT IT DOWN.
NO IMPUNITY FOR CRIMINALS.
Wear kevlar insulation. I hear its proof against tasering.
Peace.
I am crying.
We are the betrayed.
From now on we could include the words: Bomb, Assassinate, Commit Treason against the U.S., Impeach Bush & Cheney, obstruct justice, protest the war, stop the nukes, peace now and so on. Bury them in their own filth. Overwhelm the system, starting now.
peace,
st john
Thank you for the info, militantliberal.
Sieg Heil !!!!!
COMarc: How could we enact recall at the federal level? Aren't these rules promulgated at the State level? I know there has been a lot of talk about recalling Pelosi and Feinstein in California. How do we get this ball rolling?
HELP!
By the way, Clinton didn't show up to vote at all. Obama voted the "right" way on all amendments and cloture. Let that be a guide for you in the voting booth.
tobee4 February 12th, 2008 4:32 pm
We need an educated opposition, so take this as constructive criitcism.
You can go to Senate.gov to find the results of any roll call. Also the language of any bill and the status. Learn to use it. (And to writers, if you actually put the bill number S-XXXX in the article, its easier for people to do this.
Also, if you find the Constitution and read it, you'll see there's no such thing as the 'impeachment' of a Senator or Representative. They can be removed by their fellow members, which is usually reserved for members who are caught red-handed being totally corrupt or sexual perverts. But no such thing as impeachment.
Recall would be a better word. That's what more enlightened democracies have done. They've added provisions allowing for citizens to 'recall' their elected reps between elections.
But in the US, its wait until the next election and then take your best shot at beating them.
The best way to beat them is to run a strong independent candidate against them. That candidate may or may not win (but it might be interesting to see the vote totals if it was clear the traitor-Dem was going to lose and no one had to worry about wasting their vote on them).
The one thing we should be able to do is to guarantee the defeat of any Dem we want. We just need to take enough votes away from them to force them to lose. We should be very clear as to why we are doing this. And we get to actually have fun and support a candidate that believes in what we believe in for a change.
We need to flex that political power some time. We need to publicly cause Dems to lose. Maybe then they'd worry a bit about crossing us on votes like this. BTW, that's exactly what AIPAC does and its why most congress critters shake in fear about crossing them.
Lets try doing it a few times ourselves to see if we can get some of these jerks quaking in fear about us!
I also posted the following elsewhere:
The words of my father, circa late 1940's, to his friends
keep popping into my head
He pointed out that the Nuremburg trials would come back to haunt the American people. He talked about how close our country came to entering WWII on the side of the Axis. Many of our corporate leaders were impressed with the society of Germany. The German-American Bund drew many thousands to their rallies to show solidarity with the 3rd Reich. He talked of the companies whose subsidiaries kept doing business with Germany after 1941 - including Das Fuehrer's Walker banking ancestors. He talked about the Nazis enlisted to help us fight the Communist scourge long before it was in the press.
He said it could happen here just as easy as Germany if not easier since our society was so much more violent and had even deeper sense of superiority than did the population of the 3rd Reich.
I keep remembering those words as we complete our sinking into the morass of a fascist totalitarian state run by the rich.
And we laughed at those 'conspiracy nuts' who compared the tragedy of 9/11 to the Reichstag Fire which began Germany's descent from democracy to a fascist totalitarian state. I wonder who's laughing now?
When looking at votes, remember that once the party leaders have enough votes to guarantee the passage of a bill they want, they turn the others who would also have voted with them to cast a purely symbolic "No" vote. Yet, if those votes had really been needed, then some of those No votes would have voted Yes if needed. So remember they play games with this stuff.
Most likely, these 12 were chosen in a pre-vote deal as the ones who could vote yes on this and still be 'safe'. For instance, I know Salazar doesn't face re-election until 2010. Two years from now, suddenly he'll stop voting this way and some other Dem elected this year or in 2006 will step up to cast these votes.
Just don't assume these are the only traitors. These are the ones who agreed to publicly declare themselves to be traitors to make sure this passes. But they aren't the only ones.
Look what you get when you waste your vote on the Democrats.
If all those people had voted Green, you can be damn sure that this would have been strongly opposed by a Green Party with majority control of the Congress.
militant liberal, I just say "heil Cheney" (when asked for my ID, or hassled by officious individuals anywhere)
Shouldn't there be a space between "militant" and "liberal"? ;)
I followed Chris's link. Here are the traitor Democrats:
Bayh, IN Carper, De Conrad, ND Feinstein, CA Inoyoe, HI Johnson, SD Kohl, WI Landrieu, LA Lincoln, AR McCaskill MO Miluski, MD the two Nelsons, NE and FL (that always vote Repub) Pryor, AR Rockerfeller, W VA Salazar, CO Stabenow, MI
Webb, VA
And, of course, the former Democrat and honorary Republican (I saw his disgusting face behind McCain last week) Lieberman, CT.
Another spelling correction for whatfools and Heckman: the correct spelling is "Putsch".
A spelling correction for curmudgeon99: it's "Sieg Heil" not "Seig Heil". In German, it's i before e for ee sounds.
Kathy, it's not a Bush/Clinton push it's a `putch' (coup).
"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another" and so forth and so on
Remember, it was GWB that said "The Consitution is nothing but a God-Damn piece of paper".
Tobee4 (and all), here's the link to how the Senate voted on today's Dodd amendment:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm...
Rather than intercepting the phones of suspected terrorists,the first ones to be checked would be their political enemies.
The President and his corrupt coterie of cronies sound like they may have the goods on too many of the "opposition".Of course,once in power it doesn't matter what people know of you because you just don't give a damn what they think.Power is the be all and end all.
Congress is up to their eyeballs in sewage and will not open their mouths. They can't hold their breaths forever.
What the HELL is going on in Congress? Where is the sanity and respect for the Constitution? This Prez and admin are the worst criminals ever and no one does anything? What is going on??????
Is there any room for further doubt?
This country and our democracy is toast.
THESE PEOPLE ARE A DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In November all that take part in this and that can be must be voted out of office and then prosecuted. Can the ones who took an oath to "uphold and defend" the Constitution and clearly did not be impeached for that?
Can the prepetrators of this disaster be prosecuted when they become private citizens?
How do we find out how are Senators voted?
so what? You government has alwyas been allowed to listen in to my phone calls and read my emails...Your consitution is just a piece of hypocracy anyways.
Senate OKs immunity for telecoms
AP - 16 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Tuesday to shield from lawsuits telecommunications companies that helped the government eavesdrop on their customers without court permission after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
TRAITORS!!! TRAITORS!!! TRAITORS!!!
Dateline - America February 12th 2008: AMERICA DECLARES SCORCHED EARTH WAR ON IT'S ELECTED OFFICIALS!!!
But then America did what it always does. It just took a pill and turned on the TV. Beverly Hillbillies followed by Mayberry USA.
This is how our Masters accomplished GENOCIDE. Law is whatever they say it is, if they choose to remember it at all.
mairs February 12th, 2008 12:53 pm:
Sorry about the stalker I hope you nailed the animal's hide to the outhouse door, took everything he owns in a civil judgement and got him some jail time.
Teach'em the animal manners. Male Supremacy in any form, let alone predatory males who feed on fear are a sickness of the mind. We're talking about Rape: Mental, Emotional, Physical. You know this. We don't put down a rabid dog because he's guilty.
I haven't touched a cell phone since late '01. Not in this country. If I want to develop a relationship with the NSA, I'll send'em a post card, in Arabic. It will take them at least six months to translate it. They only speak and read English, poorly. But they are Patriots...
Pieces of 8.
Here is the email I sent to Senator Kohl, one of the traitors. And to make it even worse, in order to contact his office through e-mail they require that you give them your phone number!
How dare you subvert the Constitution? The one thing that you are sworn to uphold? How dare you give immunity without cause or trial to lawbreaking anti-democratic corporations? Here is an excerpt from a book I carry around... Amendment IV. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You, Senator Kohl, are a traitor to this once great country. I am ashamed to be a citizen in a state that would be represented by you. I have not been a friend of the Democratic Party for many years, but I can assure you that I will do everything in my power to insure that no Democrats get any votes from anyone I know or come in contact with. I will vote third party and I hope that contributes to the end of the sham party you associate yourself with.
And how dare you demand that I give you my telephone number to contact you after you just gave the telecom providers and George W Bush immunity to listen or track any calls that they want. The audacity! You ought to be ashamed of yourself. But my guess is that you are immune from any feelings of connectedness to, We the People.
Wait until S1959 passes, we will all be rounded up and thrown on jail for our posts here. Now that they don't even need a warrant to figure out who we are, they will be waiting.
What a great government! They will stop at nothing to keep us safe!
They keep promising "change" and, by golly, look at 'em go and change the law to protect their paymasters and fellow traitors.
Good thing HRC isn't a part of that crowd, or one might be tempted to reconsider whether she's worthy of even a single progressive vote... progressive meaning any human with a lick of common sense left...
It is a Bush/Clinton push: Democrat and Republican because Bill Clinton authorized the covert use of thought reading technology on American citizens in 1994, his second year in office.
Both the old guard Democrats and Republicans have a stake in keeping this dirty little secret and their allowance of it's use. (And God knows what skeletins lie in these Senators closets!)
Keep a watch on Senate Bill S1959: it allows the government to prosecute citizens based on their BELIEF systems!
I pray that Obama as President will be truthful to his past as a community activist, a Civil Rights Attorney, and Constitutional Teacher to save this country and reverse these horrible activities. We are witnessing a coup against our government BY OUR GOVERNMENT.
We've always been told that every war fought by American soldiers abroad is to support the freedom we enjoy here at home.
Now that there's no freedom, the troops can all come home now.
...now we get a list of which...
It's too late. Now is the time for all good men to throw out the baby, bathwatergate and the tubitcamein.
Bush should have been Impeached immediately for breaking the law! Our Congress is made up of traitors and they must all be replaced if we are to return our once great nation to a democracy.
The reason they continue to get away with this is that no one runs against them! John Conyers is free to ignore us because no one is challenging him. Someone from Michigan out there-PLEASE RUN FOR CONGRESS!
http://peacecandidates.com/blog/ben/02/10/boot_conyers
Adolf Hitler would be turning over in his grave...to be completely outclassed by his old foe Amerikka. His fascist state was an amateurs job compared to Bu$hCo's...
The totalitarian fascist state is here. Welcome to Amerika, land of the dictators and lickspittle Senate.
Combined with the Anti-homegrown Terrorism Act SR1959, what we say to our friends is now public record and if we say anything against our Uberfeuhrers(sp) it can and will be held against us. After all , we don't want all those concentr......er detention camps built by KBR and Halliburton to go to waste, now do we?
Just wait until domestic travel is under the same biometric controls as we are forcing on the EU who is retaliating. We will have to apply for clearance before we even buy a ticket.
Just wait for martial law to be implemented before the 'elections'. The Infragard gauleiters will be armed and ready to 'guard' the infrastructure - however that will be defined.
All together now:
Seig Heil ! Seig Heil ! Seig Heil !
Well, now we get a list of which Democrats voted to allow lawbreaking and we know which Democrats are either being Blackmailed or have simply been Bought.
The Servile Democrats are now lining up to sell out the American People for dollars from the Telecom Companies. They are so depraved and unintelligent that they will accept dollars instead of Euro's. I can already hear the "giant blowing sound," of the PR machine as they remind us they are public servants. Washington has become the Nations sewer, a gleaming dung heap.
Disgusting. Utterly disgusting. 232 years later, our own government is now our worst enemy.
Senate OKs immunity for telecoms
AP - 16 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Senate voted Tuesday to shield from lawsuits telecommunications companies that helped the government eavesdrop on their customers without court permission after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
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The sheep are not angry enough for a revolution and probably couldn't be bothered to do a "Jesus" and clean out the temple of corporate whores. I wouldn't mind taking a couple of weeks off and going to Washington enmasse and closing that money grubbing place down, but only when they're in session and a hell of a lot warmer. At this point I would like to see a Edwards/Huckabee or any of the ones who have been banned from running start an independant movement, but it has to be someone credible, not a Nader.
I'm depending on a lot of netroots organizations out in the netherworld to track the votes. Come this fall, the electorate will be cleaning house, finally. A lot of new congresspersons will be elected; hopefully, many if not most of them, independents or greens.
*yawn*
Nothing to see here ... simply a Democratic Party ratification of the dictatorial powers already awarded by the Reichstag in 2002. Go out, fill your gas tank, buy some stuff at Wal-Mart and turn on the tube when you get home. All is well.
I know this is a crazy idea, America, but if you care so much about government lawbreaking, why not vote for senators and congress people who care about it too?
…Or are all those Rs and Ds tagged onto their names just too irresistible?
Nah, what am I saying, all you need is five, maybe ten more Democrats in congress and it's "freedom and justice for all!!!".
Does that mean immunity for everyone? Even my stalker who worked for a "Homeland Security" contractor with a contact at Verizon who was able to track me and monitor my calling, and left messages letting me know he knew the subjects of all my conversations?
Thanks for the betrayal once again. We all really appreciate it.
Should the Senate legalize warrantless spying on the telephone calls and emails of Americans and also provide full retroactive impunity to lawbreaking telecoms I will know that the Age of Ballots is at an end. I shall shall cut my primary ballot in half prior to voting to show the severed relationship between the people and the corporate government.
Both political parties are over their heads in treason and warcrimes. Where's Paul Revere when we need him?
If this passes, I'm dropping our cell phone service with Verizon. I've had enough of these criminals. I did without a cell before, and I can again. I hate using them anyway. They've got so much crap on the signal (video/text) its ruined the basic service: Voice. The old cells were 1000% better. Why carry around a "wire" for the feds anyway! Call it a Razar, a Chocolate', a whatever... But thats what it is at this point: a WIRE.