it's ridiculous that israel reigns supreme in our politics. our country's support for israel has led to two oil boycotts by arab countries that almost drove our economy into the tank. when we bailed israel out in its 1973 war, gas prices doubled in six weeks, same happened in 1979, when we supported the shah and, as a consequence, faced import shortages from mideast oil producing countries.it seems like it would be at least as important to get along with 180 million arabs who directly affect our economic destiny as it would be to get along with 8 million or so israelis, who have no valuable natural resources. i mean, really, clinton offered israel us statehood, which israel properly refused, seeing as they would then have only two senators. seriously, folks, why not just give the israelis this ultimatum? return to your 1967 borders, let the palestinians have the entire west bank, and immediately disarm yourself of all the destabalizing nuclear weapons you hypocritically possess. in return, you can sign on to a mutual defense pact with the us, which will pledge to work for a nuclear free zone throughout the rest of the middle east,india, and pakistan,all of which must forgo nuclear armaments to merit america's protective umbrella and economic assistance. make jerusalem an international city under un auspicies. israeli immigrants from europe have no right to settle the west bank just because israel proper is running out of lebensraum. religious justifications won't do, as they ring as hollow as those of islamic extremists..give the west bank back to the people who lived on it for the 14 centuries before theodore hertzel invented his self-serving justifications for expansion and subjugation. if israel doesn't agree to these terms, we should stop sending them the 3 or 4 billion we send every year, and form a mutual assistance pact with all palestinians who live on lands conquered by the israeli surprise attack of 1967. remember when israeli pilots killed 41 of our sailors on the uss liberty, gunning them down in broad daylight on the open seas, the stars and stripes flying high and proud on that sunny june day in 1967? enough is enough! if we deal fairly with israel, then the arab world will dial back at least to neutral in its atttitudes toward the us; after a while,we will have more leverage when dealing with iran's nuclear ambitions and ethnic tensions in iraq. but few politicians since big john connoly have had the backbone to resist israeli excesses, and look where it got him-- one delegate from south carolina at the 1980 republican national convention.

it's ridiculous that israel reigns supreme in our politics. our country's support for israel has led to two oil boycotts by arab countries that almost drove our economy into the tank. when we bailed israel out in its 1973 war, gas prices doubled in six weeks, same happened in 1979, when we supported the shah and, as a consequence, faced import shortages from mideast oil producing countries.it seems like it would be at least as important to get along with 180 million arabs who directly affect our economic destiny as it would be to get along with 8 million or so israelis, who have no valuable natural resources. i mean, really, clinton offered israel us statehood, which israel properly refused, seeing as they would then have only two senators. seriously, folks, why not just give the israelis this ultimatum? return to your 1967 borders, let the palestinians have the entire west bank, and immediately disarm yourself of all the destabalizing nuclear weapons you hypocritically possess. in return, you can sign on to a mutual defense pact with the us, which will pledge to work for a nuclear free zone throughout the rest of the middle east,india, and pakistan,all of which must forgo nuclear armaments to merit america's protective umbrella and economic assistance. make jerusalem an international city under un auspicies. israeli immigrants from europe have no right to settle the west bank just because israel proper is running out of lebensraum. religious justifications won't do, as they ring as hollow as those of islamic extremists..give the west bank back to the people who lived on it for the 14 centuries before theodore hertzel invented his self-serving justifications for expansion and subjugation. if israel doesn't agree to these terms, we should stop sending them the 3 or 4 billion we send every year, and form a mutual assistance pact with all palestinians who live on lands conquered by the israeli surprise attack of 1967. remember when israeli pilots killed 41 of our sailors on the uss liberty, gunning them down in broad daylight on the open seas, the stars and stripes flying high and proud on that sunny june day in 1967? enough is enough! if we deal fairly with israel, then the arab world will dial back at least to neutral in its atttitudes toward the us; after a while,we will have more leverage when dealing with iran's nuclear ambitions and ethnic tensions in iraq. but few politicians since big john connoly have had the backbone to resist israeli excesses, and look where it got him-- one delegate from south carolina at the 1980 republican national convention.

For the benefit of any who still doubt it, above is yet more proof that Israel lobbies have control over the US government.

Are there any members of the US government who are strong enough to disobey their Israeli masters? All of the big players have pledged their allegiance to Israel. There seems to be not one congressman or senator who is strong enough to disobey the dictates of Israel. As if controlled some combination of bribery and blackmail, one way or another, they all obey.

Is the US a democracy?

First and foremost, it seems that the US is an Israeli puppet government where each politician knows that his career depends on his demonstrations of loyalty to Israel.

Secondly, the US is a plutocracy, a government for the corporations and the wealthy that provide the bribes and campaign funds.

And only when the demands of the above are satisfied, then the demands of US population are counted. The "democracy" portion of the US government is just empty rhetoric continuously trumpted by the media. It is a series of rituals that provide a facade for propaganda purposes.

I wouldn’t hold my breathe that the Israeli bitches in the U.S. Congress will do what is correct and hold Israel accountable for their war crimes-and war crimes once again and again! The bitches for Israel in the U.S. Congress are too chickensh** to respect the findings of the Goldstone Report. The U.S. Congress bought and paid for by the Zionist Lobby-AIPAC and all the other Zionist front organizations like WINEP of which Obama administration appointee Dennis Ross is a member of will ensure that Congress not respect this report.

As they say, "Badass America" is Israel's Bitch!

I hold not only the leaders of America responsible at this point, but now I hold the AMERICAN PEOPLE AS EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE KILLINGS OF ARABS AND MUSLIMS AND AMERICA'S CONTINUED WAR AGAINST THE ARAB PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF ISRAEL AND THE ZIONISTS!!!!!

As Paul Findley and James Petras have often written, the U.S. Congress is Israeli occupied territory. Only naïve people and moronic minds actually think that the U.S. Congress would ever hold the Israeli government accountable for anything. Israel already has illegally annexed East Jerusalem and now illegally claims Jerusalem as its capital which is also illegal with the blessing of the U.S. Congress and the White House.

When are Americans going to get off their ass and hold their leaders responsible for these criminal defense budgets and continued financing of these criminal wars in the Middle East?

American citizens are no longer INNOCENT or GUILT-Free in allowing its leaders to continue these international criminal policies!!!!

America acts very nobly and ably as Israel's BEST BITCH!!!!!

US Congress Murdering the Truth- What else is new?

In a fascist state the truth has no particular merit. All that matters is the accumulation and use of political power by the military-industrial-governmental complex to influence, control and corrupt. On Tuesday the US Congress will pass a resolution condemning the UN Report on War Crimes in Gaza. It will assert, falsely, that Judge Goldstone's mandate for the report was biased (Judge Goldstone wrote his own mandate- he was not pressured by the UN Human Rights Commission). It will deny the irrefutable evidence of the murdering of Gaza civilians and systematic destruction of life sustaining infrastructure. It will condemn Hamas while ignoring Israel's disproportionate use of force to punish the people of Gaza for electing Hamas leaders. It will perpetuate lies in an effort to appease a powerful lobby that does not have Israel's best interests in mind or the true interests of peace.

I'm sure that the Congresshores ain't particularly worried about losing their 'moral threat' since they don't have any to begin with. However, it is appaling that with all the things that are wrong in this country that they could and should be taking care of like, say, healthcare yet Congress actually flushes its time - and our tax dollars - down the toilet on this charade. Appalling and sickening!

On the other hand, that ought to teach Goldstone who his friends are. He was so very careful not to offend the delicate Jewish beings and they have paid him back by kicking him in the ass. I hope he appreciates that and, if given a second chance, hits them where it hurts. And that should be a lesson to the US too, Israel is nobody's friend and its own worst enemy!

Re: ezeflyer November 2nd, 2009 4:06 pm

- Ethnic and religious groups always stick together, particularly under outside threat (which is not the case here). On the issue of justice, however, Jews have different opinions, obviously.
- One of the reasons not to send money to Palestine is the fact that Israel has a blocking position in the pipeline.
Apart from that, there is not much solidarity from Arab states with the oppressed Palestinians.
- I do hope that in Congress justice will prevail, not the Pac solidarity.

My typical dumbocrat Congressman is one of the co-sponsers of this fraud. I just told him (his office) that I only want to know if he had even read the report because I need to know if he is just following the pac or if he really believes in misrepresentation (in so many words).

Congress has already embraced the Genocidal Monstrocity.

camus13

Have not you people listened to Obama.....Look forward not backward. Did you believe he did not mean Israel also?

Back to the joke.........After asking Israel to become the 51 State they said no. They will only get 2 Senators under the rules.

Same goes for the House of Idiots.

Why take that deal when you have them ALL.

The resolution makes it clear that America backs Israel's war crimes, and will do all it can to ensure justice is not done in this matter. It demonstrates the fact that the US as guilty as Israel in these crimes.

Jews here and there have learned to stick together. Why is there little money support for Palestinians from the vast oil reserves in Arab countries? Why won't they put their money where their mouth is?

It is too bad that the bought off WHORES in Congress will probably vote with Israel! The sad part is that these actions will reinforce the way the US is viewed in the Middle East! As the US not just watches but gives Israel the very weapons that they are using to commit genocide against the Palestinian people! That the Israeli government couches their human rights violations in "self defense" justifications is NO EXCUSE for them to be treated as a democracy as they USURP LAND THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM!!!

DIVEST NOW!!!

The moment Barack Obama was nominated, he rushed to a AIPAC do and assured everyone that, no matter what, the US would back up Israel. Enough said, I think.

De-countrify Isarael, NOW!

Then de-countrify Gringalandia.

"In these circumstances the United States has a special responsibility to insure that serious investigations are undertaken of the use of the weapons it supplies. Congress should not be blocking such an investigation." –(Michael Ratner)

This is a textbook, if not clinical example of bad faith political thinking in its most egregious and ludicrous form. Imploring the American Congress to do what is right in this case is little more than cravenly fatuous and absurd.

Michael Ratner knows, as does any sentient being knows, that the U.S. Congress will condemn the Goldstone Report. That is axiomatic, a fait accompli. He does a grave disservice to his readers to assume there is even a scintilla of hope that the report will be accepted, much less acted upon.

Ratner's thinking is mired in a set of assumptions about America and American politics that cannot see 'the forest for the trees' and refuses to believe the worst about what is palpably and inexorably before his eyes.

Pollyannaish optimism, at its most misplaced and ridiculous. Ratner's pleas are emblematic of the bad faith naïveté which renders liberal and progressive thinking all but spurious.
–(Jill Bains)

Here's what I don't get: If you think holocaust deniers like Ahmadinejad are nut cases, why would you go out of your way to drive people to his point of view? That's exactly what congress is doing by engaging in such knee-jerk reactions against the Goldstone report.

I aggree with Ratner, and the Goldstone report is relatively mild. Congress has a track record of overwhelming and unconditional support of Israel and protection of Israel by using the veto at the UNSC.

We can simply assume that this is due to groups like AIPAC and other interest groups who benefit from Israeli policy.

One thing to consider: if the US does not condemn the Goldstone report, it could set a precedent in a couple of ways. The obvious one would be veering from the well worn path of unconditional support of Israel. The other less obvious one would be to appear as a political and moral hypocrite.

While the atrocities committed against Palestinians are clearly criminal, the atrocities committed by the USA are even worse, by comparison. The USA is responsible for the destruction of Iraq, the deaths of 100s of thoussands, some would say over a million Iraqis (including women and children); the displacement of millions of Iraqis and so on. We can add Afghanistan to the list of crimes as well as the bombings of civilians in Pakistan.

I hate to sound hopeless, however Israel serves the interests of the US Empire in the region. This much should be clear given the context. Given this and the other factors, the chances for Congress to do the right thing are slim indeed.

Besides, we are talking about a group of people who are largely corrupt, simply installed into office by BiGMoney corporate interests.

For anyone other than the 'twelve decent Americans' I speak of often, (and the 12 decent other members of other nations even including Israel---oh well maybe 6 decent Israelis---its real hard to be humble/decent when you are one of the 'chosen ones') to expect the USA to do anything other than what they have done so far would be an act of absolute stupidity.

The USA has no intentions of making any criticism of Israeli atrocities since they are committing most of the same in other areas----daily, and their history of attrocities, both domestic as well as foreign will make the Jews of the old testament look like amateurs in comparison.

When the USA complains about the 'suicide bombers' without mentioning their own 'drone bombers'---or the many other crimes against humanity the USA has committed in its short history (100 million Native Americans make the Jewish holocaust of 6 million somewhat 'small' in comparison). Then the fact that the USA is illegally in possession of its territory as well as Israel*, the many other contradictions to intelligence analysis are 'like smoke in the wind'.

Humanity has very little hope of continued existence as long as they insist upon the continued belief in the 'God myth', and the guilt of so many atrocities of the past two thousand years can all be placed in the hands of those who maintained that myth; whether they be Jew, Christian or Muslim, they all have left dead people and other living beings and a polluted environment in their wake. In fact 'life' is cheap to these 'believers in the God myth'---their histories speaks for that fact.

Whatever the solution may be, the world cannot expect the USA to reveal it. The USA has far too much 'blood' on its own 'collective' hands, both domestic and foreign blood, to make any claim to any 'moral authority'. The Israelis are living on borrowed time, and their abuses will not be overlooked by the survivors of the disasters they bring upon themselves and others. The fact that the 'rest' of the world has reached it's level of tolerance of the USA is being revealed each day with news of the economic disaster the USA has created for themselves and the rest of the world.
Soon the creditors that hold the debt the USA has accrued 'call in the papers'---the USa will not be able to pay. They will then be left with the only alternative but to turn on themselves. When this happens the Israelis will find themselves with no -'big brother'- and the rest of the Arab world will in turn---devour the 'Chosen ones' and send them on to 'join the Lord'----- (a damn good idea if they take those Christians with them---and throw the Muslims in just to make the 'cleansing' complete) it really is only a matter of time.

The only dilemma that the rest of us have to face is 'how to survive' all of those fools who believe in the 'God' myth, long enough to wait for them to kill each other off; and then how to survive the mess they leave behind.

* Here is a 'challenge' for 'logic'. The USA will criticize the Israelis who have no legitimate claim to Palestine other than the imaginings of the 'Jewish invention of Israel'---while the USA is illegally in possession of more than 60% of its own geographic territory, and the trillions of wealth that possession has provided---(up to now that is). Only the most foolish would believe that the USA after 233 years of illegal possession of 'America'--suddenly find a 'conscience' (under the presidents bed)----and make themselves 'do the right thing'. My own family history dictates that I believe the opposite---at least I would not be disappointed.

Now there seems to be on the 'horizon' a true test of the 'God' myth 'believers'. Will there 'God' 'come on down' and save them from themselves; or continue to sleep the deep sleep of non existence. Shortly, the world having reached its level of tolerance for the USA will simply 'cut off the credit lines' and the Americans will devour themselves in short order. Then the Israelis will have lost their 'money bags'---and they will be devoured by the Muslim/Arab world that they have been practicing their abuses upon for sixty years now; or resort to their 'nuculer whepuns' (ala GW Bush), and just leave the immediate area of the 'mid east'---a radio active waste land, as they leave to 'join the lord in heaven'-------------

"If the USA were another nation they would invade the USA to keep the world safe; and they would be justified."

On a more serious note. Perhaps if humanity can survive these fools who believe in the 'God' myth so much that they are willing to shed 'rivers' of blood, both innocent and others----they will carry on with a valuable lesson from the negative example set by those fools. Then humanity can expect to continue to evolve, leaving the stupidity of the past, in the past; along with the 'God ' myth.
One can only hope.

There's a folk song, "Rigs of the Time", with the refrain:

♪ Honesty's all out of fashion
These are the rigs of the time, time, my boys
These are the rigs of the time ♪

It's disappointing, though hardly surprising, that our generally vile and depraved Elected Misrepresentatives in Congress enthusiastically lend themselves to this truthless charade.

Given the flagrant bad faith shamelessly demonstrated by the US and Israeli governments, manifested in their wholly unjustified and petulant slanders upon the report, and of Judge Goldstone by innuendo, the real question is whether, and when, the matter will be referred to the International Criminal Court.

Sadly, this is the only recourse for pursuing justice for victims of rogue imperialist and terrorist states in the US hegemony.

· Yr Obd't Servant

The US government moves to reject the Goldstone Report because the Report effectively details US-funded crimes.

While some congresscritter may be involved in a "rush to judgement," swept along by rhetoric or sponsors, the crimes detailed resemble the rest of US-funded Israeli policies over decades, and any ignorance that allows a professional American politician to reject Goldstone out of hand must be largely wilful.

Let us remember that our representatives require not just information but palpable sanctions to get them in line.

"... indiscriminate attacks upon the civilian population of southern Israel and that where there is no intended military target..."

...unlike schools and hospitals in Gaza...eh

Except that the settlers are an important weapon in the war of expansion. They know they are, but will pretend cynically innocence.

And the numbers still don't match. I don't think a case of a settler woman fainting at the noise of a qassam is the equivalent of hundreds of school children being sliced and diced by a barrage of daisycutters.

The Goldstone report is actually guilty of discussing the two sides as too equally balanced. The numbers and strategies don't support that kind of balance.

I dunno - what would you do if strangers took your land and wrecked your home, and then strafed you on a regular basis? Would you not use whatever weapon you could, to try to protect what you have left? No, Hamas is not a tea party at the Fairy Castle, but they are Israel's invention. that's what happens. so don't act so surprised and morally outraged at what you built. You built it. Now you have a whole different creature to deal with.

Youtube is a gold mine of examples that show both sides, and the Leon Uris imagery of happy settlers dancing the hora died long ago. la la la. It all looked so innocent then.

what toadie of israel put forth this resolution? this
is another thing to come back and bite these dumb bastards
in the ass. its not that history repeats itself its that
as a species we are too stupid or insane to learn from our
mistakes. no justice no peace! an concept as old as rational
humanity but still not learned by those in power! to ask
america to do this is akin to turning your little brother
which israel is in for murder. which is what they do!

The real title of this article should have been "Congress Should Not Reject the Goldstone Report, but it will."

Here is a great video of Goldstone and his team talking at the United Nations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njdnBVVx6W0&feature=PlayList&p=25C19200EC9FC791&playnext=1&playnext_fro...

At one point, as I recall, he basically questions whether the people criticizing him have actually read the report or not.

Enjoy!

Condemning the Goldstone report is insane. The US House is an international disgrace. It is declaring to the whole world that it is the toady of Israel, Israeli-occupied territory, and the best government Israeli money can buy. Americans should be disgusted by this cowardly resolution because the House is speaking in the name of we the people. Most likely not a single one of those irresponsible congresspersons even read the report. Certainly none of them bothered to call for a cease-fire as Israel was bombing and killing 1400 civilians in Gaza. Isn't it enough that we give this criminal country 3 billion taxpayer dollars each year--at a time when our government is telling us it doesn't have the money for health care (which, by the way, all Israelis have). It's time these pandering failures understood that they represent America, not Israel, and their constant support Israel's war crimes is UN-AMERICAN.