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Obama's Afghanistan Problem – It's in Our Hands
What now for the US in Afghanistan? Does the Obama Administration drop the other shoe and commit us to a second decade of war? Or will it somehow pull up short of the precipice? All of sudden, there’s doubt and the war’s opponents can see a hundred glints of hope – tops among them polls showing Americans now thinking that sending still more troops to Afghanistan because nineteen men hijacked four airplanes eight years earlier might not be the most logical course of action. But before we entertain even modest hopes about stemming the war effort, let’s consider what a recent offhand remark by a former U.S. foreign policy official tells us of what we’re up against.
The figure in question is Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter. In telling an interviewer that he thought, if it came to it, the US should not sit back and allow Israel to bomb Iran, he explained that the US could easily stop Israeli planes because “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq.” Got that? “Our airspace in Iraq.”
Brzezinski may be nearly three decades removed from his principal government post, but he has remained a force in the rarified international relations realm and his comment does reflect the viewpoint of a certain set who see themselves as the guardians of American foreign policy. Remember Colin Powell’s Pottery Barn analogy – “You break it, you own it”? Powell, of course, made the statement in relation to Iraq. Well, we sure did break Iraq and if that indeed means we own it, as Brzezinski appears to believe, by now we must certainly own Afghanistan as well. And how can we walk away from a country we own?
The idea that other parts of the world are ours to lose is nothing new to American politics. It was prominent during much of the last century as well, as least since the question of “Who lost China?” arose following the Communists’ defeat of the Nationalists sixty years ago. At first blush, it might be tempting to say that the architects of American foreign policy haven’t learned a thing over all this time, but we might just as well say that they’ve learned too well. They have, after all, slipped almost seamlessly from defending us against the menaces of Communism and atheism to protecting us from the threats of terrorism and Islamism, all the while keeping an eye out for “America’s interests in the Middle East” – which some might say means nothing more than access to the oil on which our way of life is seen to depend.
For his part, Obama might take some solace from the fact that he’s not the only head of state feeling pressure from a populace asking “Why are will still in Afghanistan?” Gordon Brown, Angela Merkel, Nicholas Sarkozy, and Silvio Berlusconi could commiserate. In fact, Brown, Merkel, and Sarkozy have just called for a “conference on Afghanistan before the end of this year” to “agree on new benchmarks and timelines ... to formulate a joint framework for our transition phase in Afghanistan.” In the vernacular, this means “Can we go home now?” But then, it is neither the United Kingdom, Germany, France, nor Italy that owns Afghanistan: the US does. Without the US, there is no Karzai government, as everyone knows.
So Obama does have a genuine homefront problem on his hands and it comes with a generational aspect that magnifies it. When a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found 51 percent of respondents now opposing further troop increases, it actually showed a 52 percent majority of those 50 or older supporting escalation, but 62 percent of those under 50 opposing it. Given that Obama won the election on the under-40 vote, this trend has got to be a serious concern in the White House.
The above-mentioned Brzezinski may have left the White House before they were born, but he has probably expressed, as well as any under-30 voter has, a perception of Obama’s candidacy that led to his defeating John McCain by a 2-1 margin among that age group. Brzezinski, a political eclectic who backed both George W. Bush and Obama, says, "What makes Obama attractive to me is that he understands that we live in a very different world where we have to relate to a variety of cultures and people." That perception is about to get a serious test.
General Stanley McChrystal, the new commander of the Afghanistan invasion forces, has just assessed his need at 500,000 troops for five years – 350,000 of them to be Afghanis whom the US and other western powers would equip to keep “our” government – Karzai or his successor – in power. This would amount to a thirteen-year commitment to fight the return of a government that the US military overthrew in little more than a month in 2001, a commitment extending through a second Obama term, should he be elected to it.
If Obama really does understand the world in a different way than his predecessor, as so many of his supporters hope he does, he will presumably find significance in the fact that the opposition’s strength has increased apace with western military intervention, and recognize this for the losing strategy that it is. Unfortunately, “expert” voices are already rising to argue that this history only increases the need to fight on. For instance, Brian Glyn Williams, professor of Islamic history at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, fears “the Taliban of 2001 is not the Taliban of 2009." Nowadays, the organization that started as an offshoot of fundamentalist groups supported by the U.S. in the fight against the Soviet Union “will see the U.S. as an enemy for removing them from power back in 2001," he says. Hard to argue with his conclusion that the Taliban sees the U.S. as an enemy, but why this requires us to stay and actually be that enemy for another five years is less clear.
In short, while the American public’s developing sense that we need to figure a way to get out of Afghanistan rather than plunging on ahead is immensely important, U.S. war policy will not be changed merely by poll numbers. The foreign policy experts who believe that we can’t afford the defeat of “our” government in Afghanistan have the White House’s phone number; we don’t. The Administration needs to see us on television.
This month will see demonstrations across the nation marking the Afghanistan War’s eighth anniversary and calling for its end. As, always, there will be any number of good reasons not to participate:
Demonstrations far larger than anything we can hope to mount against the Afghanistan War failed to stop the Iraq invasion, so why bother?
I don’t like the groups organizing the protests. They’ve wrapped them up in a laundry list of other demands and I don’t agree with some of them.
I have to take the kids to their soccer game.
And so forth. But anyone who opposes this war, yet finds a reason not to publicly demonstrate that fact this month, might ask what else they’re going to do to try to bring it to a close. Unlike Bush, who knew he would not win the support of the opponents of his foreign policy even if he acceded to their demands, Obama risks losing the support of his base should he decide to continue Bush’s policies. But he needs to be shown that he has a real problem.
The figure in question is Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter. In telling an interviewer that he thought, if it came to it, the US should not sit back and allow Israel to bomb Iran, he explained that the US could easily stop Israeli planes because “They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq.” Got that? “Our airspace in Iraq.”
Brzezinski may be nearly three decades removed from his principal government post, but he has remained a force in the rarified international relations realm and his comment does reflect the viewpoint of a certain set who see themselves as the guardians of American foreign policy. Remember Colin Powell’s Pottery Barn analogy – “You break it, you own it”? Powell, of course, made the statement in relation to Iraq. Well, we sure did break Iraq and if that indeed means we own it, as Brzezinski appears to believe, by now we must certainly own Afghanistan as well. And how can we walk away from a country we own?
The idea that other parts of the world are ours to lose is nothing new to American politics. It was prominent during much of the last century as well, as least since the question of “Who lost China?” arose following the Communists’ defeat of the Nationalists sixty years ago. At first blush, it might be tempting to say that the architects of American foreign policy haven’t learned a thing over all this time, but we might just as well say that they’ve learned too well. They have, after all, slipped almost seamlessly from defending us against the menaces of Communism and atheism to protecting us from the threats of terrorism and Islamism, all the while keeping an eye out for “America’s interests in the Middle East” – which some might say means nothing more than access to the oil on which our way of life is seen to depend.
For his part, Obama might take some solace from the fact that he’s not the only head of state feeling pressure from a populace asking “Why are will still in Afghanistan?” Gordon Brown, Angela Merkel, Nicholas Sarkozy, and Silvio Berlusconi could commiserate. In fact, Brown, Merkel, and Sarkozy have just called for a “conference on Afghanistan before the end of this year” to “agree on new benchmarks and timelines ... to formulate a joint framework for our transition phase in Afghanistan.” In the vernacular, this means “Can we go home now?” But then, it is neither the United Kingdom, Germany, France, nor Italy that owns Afghanistan: the US does. Without the US, there is no Karzai government, as everyone knows.
So Obama does have a genuine homefront problem on his hands and it comes with a generational aspect that magnifies it. When a NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found 51 percent of respondents now opposing further troop increases, it actually showed a 52 percent majority of those 50 or older supporting escalation, but 62 percent of those under 50 opposing it. Given that Obama won the election on the under-40 vote, this trend has got to be a serious concern in the White House.
The above-mentioned Brzezinski may have left the White House before they were born, but he has probably expressed, as well as any under-30 voter has, a perception of Obama’s candidacy that led to his defeating John McCain by a 2-1 margin among that age group. Brzezinski, a political eclectic who backed both George W. Bush and Obama, says, "What makes Obama attractive to me is that he understands that we live in a very different world where we have to relate to a variety of cultures and people." That perception is about to get a serious test.
General Stanley McChrystal, the new commander of the Afghanistan invasion forces, has just assessed his need at 500,000 troops for five years – 350,000 of them to be Afghanis whom the US and other western powers would equip to keep “our” government – Karzai or his successor – in power. This would amount to a thirteen-year commitment to fight the return of a government that the US military overthrew in little more than a month in 2001, a commitment extending through a second Obama term, should he be elected to it.
If Obama really does understand the world in a different way than his predecessor, as so many of his supporters hope he does, he will presumably find significance in the fact that the opposition’s strength has increased apace with western military intervention, and recognize this for the losing strategy that it is. Unfortunately, “expert” voices are already rising to argue that this history only increases the need to fight on. For instance, Brian Glyn Williams, professor of Islamic history at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, fears “the Taliban of 2001 is not the Taliban of 2009." Nowadays, the organization that started as an offshoot of fundamentalist groups supported by the U.S. in the fight against the Soviet Union “will see the U.S. as an enemy for removing them from power back in 2001," he says. Hard to argue with his conclusion that the Taliban sees the U.S. as an enemy, but why this requires us to stay and actually be that enemy for another five years is less clear.
In short, while the American public’s developing sense that we need to figure a way to get out of Afghanistan rather than plunging on ahead is immensely important, U.S. war policy will not be changed merely by poll numbers. The foreign policy experts who believe that we can’t afford the defeat of “our” government in Afghanistan have the White House’s phone number; we don’t. The Administration needs to see us on television.
This month will see demonstrations across the nation marking the Afghanistan War’s eighth anniversary and calling for its end. As, always, there will be any number of good reasons not to participate:
Demonstrations far larger than anything we can hope to mount against the Afghanistan War failed to stop the Iraq invasion, so why bother?
I don’t like the groups organizing the protests. They’ve wrapped them up in a laundry list of other demands and I don’t agree with some of them.
I have to take the kids to their soccer game.
And so forth. But anyone who opposes this war, yet finds a reason not to publicly demonstrate that fact this month, might ask what else they’re going to do to try to bring it to a close. Unlike Bush, who knew he would not win the support of the opponents of his foreign policy even if he acceded to their demands, Obama risks losing the support of his base should he decide to continue Bush’s policies. But he needs to be shown that he has a real problem.
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Show AllAnd once again, Santa Obama will be pleaded to, so that he can solve all our problems.
Ironic, isn't it? - people complain about the US turning totalitarian, yet nobody can do anything without begging Mr. Obama to do it for them.
Where is the responsibility of Congress, which enacted the insane law that has us in this mess?
Where is the responsibility of the American electorate, who asked for change, elected more and more Democrats into Congress to get that change, and still have to ask for the same things as before?
Oh, that's right. Santa Obama will do this all for free, because we're wishing really hard.
- Obama's Afghanistan Problem -
Mr. Obama calls it 'Our war'.
So, is it our war or Mr. Obama's?
Will most people say it's Mr. Obama's?
I'd expect that most would, since that's the easy way and evades responsibility.
It's soooo much easier to beg from Santa Obama that he stop his war. It's so easy to imagine that he can order our military to retreat from a battlefield and the military will agree to stop being what they are.
It's soooo much effort for Congress or the electorate to do something about 'our' war.
So let's call it Mr. Obama's problem, and let him deal with it.
And when that fails, the Republicans will have a field day politically eviscerating Mr. Obama.
And the Democrats will stand by, watching Mr. Obama get torn down and doing nothing other than run for yet another re-election next year.
Obama's already lost most of his early support, and the support he retains is mostly passive, waiting for him to work his progressive magic and wow the world. Those of us with functioning brains know this won't happen. He'll give McChrystal whatever he wants, he'll ignore 2,500 years of history (no one has ever subdued or defeated Afghanistan), and he'll he have his own private Vietnam. I really don't think it matters that much to these assholes in Washington and the Pentagon whether we "win" or lose these thoroughly insane and illegal wars. What matters is that they just keep going on, all the time, everywhere. The only thing we really export now is war, it keeps our mostly bankrupt economy artificially going, and it gives us a sense of purpose, however hollow and irrational. It keeps the war contractors happy, they keep funding political campaigns to install one warmongering administration after another, polls keep showing 50% support any random war while 50% oppose, our punditocracy has no end of insanity to blather and disagree about, we ignore important domestic issues like health care, the environment and energy, and just continue falling over the cliff into the indifferent abyss of history.
Its fairly clear now that the majority of Americans are rejecting this war along with Iraq.
If Obama does not get us out and he is the only one aside from Congress that can, it is without a doubt Mr. Obama's war. Just as Viet Nam was Johnson and Nixon's war, not Eisenhower and Kennedy's.
And I repeat yet again that although Congress is more to blame and undeniably necessary for the solution to our problem -
Progressives are either still waiting for Santa Obama to get us out of our mess, or passively cynical about any progress at all (IMHLO).
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Let's take a look back, just as a reference:
"Friday, May 25, 2007
Congress sent President Bush a new Iraq funding bill yesterday that lacked troop withdrawal deadlines demanded by liberal Democrats, but party leaders vowed it was only a temporary setback in their efforts to bring home American troops."
This is what I gather from that news item:
1. The Democrat-majority House voted for more money for wars.
2. The Democrat leadership lied about future progress.
3. Troop withdrawal deadlines don't seem to work, do they?
Weakening President Obama (by demanding the impossible of him) only strengthens the Republicans and those others who we here cannot abide.
Now is the time to demand that Congress do more than write letters and give themselves pay raises.
Barack Obama may be prevaricating in this, but he did spend time in Denmark to get the Olympic Games to the US. Give the man some slack, people, it's all about priorities.
Tom:
Are you kidding? We need to stop him?
I think Obama made clear in Pittsburgh that he doesn't want the people protesting.
He said it and he showed us with all the new torture devices he's put his rubber stamp on.
"Obama risks losing the support of his base should he decide to continue Bush’s policies. But he needs to be shown that he has a real problem."
I think Obama is more concerned about his "real" base that paid him to be the latest dictator to occupy the people's house.
The money wins every time. Follow the money.
Then turn around and look the other way:
Support Dennis Kucinich.
On the bright side the brightest hackers are young freelancers, hopefully against war.
The U.S. is not trying to conquer, subdue, or defeat Afghanistan. The U.S is trying to prevent the Taliban from re-conquering Afghanistan and taking up where they left of in their reign of brutality and extreme intolerance.
It would seem from the comments of the writer of this article and respondents that they have forgotten (or perhaps never knew) who the Taliban are. They are Islamic extremists of the most murderous variety. They are mostly Afghan jihadis raised and indoctrinated in Saudi-financed extremist Wahabi madrassas in the Afghan refugee camps of Pakistan. When the U.S. and the Northern Alliance drove the Taliban out of Afghanistan in 2002, thousands of Afghans who had fled the country during the Taliban reign of terror, were able to return to their homes.
Do you thing the Taliban are friends of the Afghan people? Do you think they are loved and respected by the Afghan people? What makes you believe thousands of Afghans will not be forced to flee the country again? that thousands of Afghans will not be tortured, beaten and murdered again? Do you think the Taliban have changed their ways?
Perhaps you just don't care about the Afghan people, after all, it's their problem not ours. Or perhaps you are so blinded by your obsessive ideological hatred of the U.S. Government that you can think of nothing else.
Granted that there's not much good to say for the Taliban - except this:
"They're trying to prevent the Americans from re-conquering Afghanistan and taking up where they left of in their reign of brutality and extreme intolerance."
The US is the best advertising the Taliban have had since the Soviets left.
The Taliban are not popular, but the Afghanis do not want more US soldiers, or even the soldiers that are there. Thousands of Afghans HAVE BEEN forced to flee the country.
If "The U.S. is not trying to conquer, subdue, or defeat Afghanistan," let's see them lay down arms.
Sorry. Talibs are Afghan and represent the vast majority of Afghans. It is a local issue that will require a local remedy. The sociocultural chasm between the West, and especially the US, and Afghanistan (and all the other countries in the region) is wide and can't be bridged by the idiots that run the think tanks, universities and various government agencies, including the pentagon and McChrystal, the new avatar of idiocy. After 8 years of treating the locals like ants to be stepped on at will McChrystal had a Damascus moment and realised that it would be better to not step on them. Before that he was known for sending his Special (read: thugs) into mud villages and menacing and terrorising women, children and old men The French and Brits ran colonies all over the world and while it was not Disney World they exercised a certain sensitivity vis a vis the locals. American's are inherently incapable of dealing with non-Americans. They are the most despised people in the world. Even Israelis dislike Americans and they have been brought up on American teat. I suggest you stay the hell home, buy the oil on the market like everyone else, stop watching reality shows, and grow the hell up.
0's not backing out of this one easily. His actions have been uniformly pro-elite, anti-green, pro-empire since arriving in office.
Check the Escobar article in CD today against a map.
Yes, the Taliban are murderous extremists, commenter "dux", and they also are murderous extremists that have visited the White House.
Our government, ie. Obama, is after the Taliban and is interested in Afghanistan for the pipeline they want to build.
The Taliban said no deal. Obama is there for the pipeline, not the people.