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Obama’s Trust Problem
According to news reports, the Obama administration — which seemed, over the weekend, to be backing away from the “public option” for health insurance — is shocked and surprised at the furious reaction from progressives.
Well, I’m shocked and surprised at their shock and surprise.
A backlash in the progressive base — which pushed President Obama over the top in the Democratic primary and played a major role in his general election victory — has been building for months. The fight over the public option involves real policy substance, but it’s also a proxy for broader questions about the president’s priorities and overall approach.
The idea of letting individuals buy insurance from a government-run plan was introduced in 2007 by Jacob Hacker of Yale, was picked up by John Edwards during the Democratic primary, and became part of the original Obama health care plan.
One purpose of the public option is to save money. Experience with Medicare suggests that a government-run plan would have lower costs than private insurers; in addition, it would introduce more competition and keep premiums down.
And let’s be clear: the supposed alternative, nonprofit co-ops, is a sham. That’s not just my opinion; it’s what the market says: stocks of health insurance companies soared on news that the Gang of Six senators trying to negotiate a bipartisan approach to health reform were dropping the public plan. Clearly, investors believe that co-ops would offer little real competition to private insurers.
Also, and importantly, the public option offered a way to reconcile differing views among Democrats. Until the idea of the public option came along, a significant faction within the party rejected anything short of true single-payer, Medicare-for-all reform, viewing anything less as perpetuating the flaws of our current system. The public option, which would force insurance companies to prove their usefulness or fade away, settled some of those qualms.
That said, it’s possible to have universal coverage without a public option — several European nations do it — and some who want a public option might be willing to forgo it if they had confidence in the overall health care strategy. Unfortunately, the president’s behavior in office has undermined that confidence.
On the issue of health care itself, the inspiring figure progressives thought they had elected comes across, far too often, as a dry technocrat who talks of “bending the curve” but has only recently begun to make the moral case for reform. Mr. Obama’s explanations of his plan have gotten clearer, but he still seems unable to settle on a simple, pithy formula; his speeches and op-eds still read as if they were written by a committee.
Meanwhile, on such fraught questions as torture and indefinite detention, the president has dismayed progressives with his reluctance to challenge or change Bush administration policy.
And then there’s the matter of the banks.
I don’t know if administration officials realize just how much damage they’ve done themselves with their kid-gloves treatment of the financial industry, just how badly the spectacle of government supported institutions paying giant bonuses is playing. But I’ve had many conversations with people who voted for Mr. Obama, yet dismiss the stimulus as a total waste of money. When I press them, it turns out that they’re really angry about the bailouts rather than the stimulus — but that’s a distinction lost on most voters.
So there’s a growing sense among progressives that they have, as my colleague Frank Rich suggests, been punked. And that’s why the mixed signals on the public option created such an uproar.
Now, politics is the art of the possible. Mr. Obama was never going to get everything his supporters wanted.
But there’s a point at which realism shades over into weakness, and progressives increasingly feel that the administration is on the wrong side of that line. It seems as if there is nothing Republicans can do that will draw an administration rebuke: Senator Charles E. Grassley feeds the death panel smear, warning that reform will “pull the plug on grandma,” and two days later the White House declares that it’s still committed to working with him.
It’s hard to avoid the sense that Mr. Obama has wasted months trying to appease people who can’t be appeased, and who take every concession as a sign that he can be rolled.
Indeed, no sooner were there reports that the administration might accept co-ops as an alternative to the public option than G.O.P. leaders announced that co-ops, too, were unacceptable.
So progressives are now in revolt. Mr. Obama took their trust for granted, and in the process lost it. And now he needs to win it back.
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Show AllRichM: I agree with what you say about the prospect of winning back the trust of progressives whose trust he has violated. Unless they are dumber than Charlie Brown (I don't rule this out), they will remember these violations and not yield to the enticement of Lucy Van Pelt/Obama to "trust me" this time as I hold the football for you to kick. It is an "odd note" but not an unusual one. You've undoubtedly seen something of the syndrome of "subjunctivitis" (believing something is true because you wish for it) that afflicts almost all progressive supporters of Obama. The disease doesn't go away that quickly, just as it takes more than one prat fall by CB to immunize him to Lucy's siren song of "trust me."
RichM August 21st, 2009 11:22 am......Krugman is a gatekeeper... intelligent and well-rehearsed, but a gatekeeper nonetheless!
What's a gatekeeper?
In human communication, in particular, in journalism, gatekeeping is the process through which ideas and information are filtered for publication. The internal decision making process of relaying or withholding information from the media to the masses. The theory was first instituted by social psychologist Kurt Lewin in 1947 and is still one of the most important theories studied by students of mass communication and journalism. Gatekeeping occurs at all levels of the media structure - from a reporter deciding which sources are chosen to include in a story to editors deciding which stories are printed, or even covered.
· Yr Obd't Servant
RichM
You have it in one!
But its not just Progressives that he's lost. Liberals, Independents and the Republicans that repudiated GWB are gone for the most part. None will be returning.
You forget that Obama isn't to be judged in relation to the actions he takes or doesn't take, but in relation to the probable actions of his next political opponent. The Repubs will put up some horror that only they could love and, once again, lefties will be between a rock and a hard place. From the eight years of GWB, we know there is a difference between craziness and middle-of-the-road, so many people on the left will, once again, hold their noses and vote for Barack. It never fails.
drosera
I agree with you. Unfortunately I also believe that if Obama runs again, no matter who the Republicans run, he or she will win.
Obama has already lost the Independents he needed to win, he's lost the trust of many and I don't see them coming back. He has also lost us many seniors (that vote a lot) But Pelosi and Reid and everyone that has been insulting and demonizing ordinary Americans can certainly have the blame too. What a way to influence people.
I doubt the Republicans will "put up some horror only they could love" when they challenge Obama's reelection. Face it. The GOP model that has succeeded far beyond anybody's wildest expectations in the past has been a smiley faced, seemingly moderate right winger at the top of the ticket, with a cabal of neo-con plutocrats merrily formulating and executing disasterous policy decisions behind the scenes. Think Reagan. Think George W. Bush, when he was first running only as governor of Texas.
Maybe Mike Huckabee will qualify as the next front man, or perhaps some even more malleable cutout figure like Mitt Romney will be selected, paired up with Lindsay Graham or some stout young evangelical for ticket balance. The key for the GOP will be to reassure the rabid right wing ideologues, the traditional big corporate interest players, and the disgruntled wannabe party regulars (Palin, Newt, etc.) that for this one election cycle they should keep a lower profile and concentrate on the ground game, secure in the knowledge that they will be rewarded generously at the cabinet level right after inauguration day, with their own fiefdoms and VIP reserved seating at the beltway feeding trough.
That is the electoral scenario that would expose the self-induced vulnerabilities of Barack Obama to the maximum.
Most of the left will stay home or vote third party (if there's ballot access opportunity to do so), bad mouthing Obama as a sell out in the process. The independents, the new voters, the swing voters, seniors, and moderates who voted for Obama first time around will either stay home disenchanted, or flip to the Republican side. Low turnout, the red states stay reliably red, and the two party system will then operate in accordance with its usual dynamics, throwing the rascals out so a different set of rascals can take over.
That's what happens when you piss away a potentially historic mandate for change by catering more to the opposition than to your own grassroots base. The hand writing is on the wall.
Bill from Saginaw
Excellent comment. If the Republicans have any sense, they'll take it completely to heart. If so, they'll easily defeat Obama in '012. By then, the spectres of George Wanker Bush and Cheesedick Cheney will have been almost totally forgotten. The Democrats will then go looking for the next Obama, yet another graduate from the school of phony sincerity, a political version and cross between Anthony Robbins and Wayne Dyer.
Bill from Saginaw
Great comment!
Though I believe Graham will have either tripped over his lies and broken his neck or will have his nose permanently attached to someone's rectum and will be unavailable to run. Huckabee...only as VP. Romney....nope. It will be one of the new guy's like Pawlenty I think, if any of therm can stay home at night.
"The independents, the new voters, the swing voters, seniors, and moderates who voted for Obama first time around will either stay home disenchanted, or flip to the Republican side."
They will be showing up in great numbers to vote Republican. There are a lot of folks that are really "wee-wee'd" off out here.
I don't know Henry8. I tend to be independent, but the Republicans disgust me to such a degree that I can't imagine EVER voting for them again. I have been sorely disappointed in Obama and am coming to the realization that I was an idiot to put any hope in him. Having said that, I would much rather have him in office than McCain/Palin. I shudder at the thought of that!
TraciS
It's probably going to be Palin. The world cannot end soon enough.
Agree. Obama's intentions are pretty clear. I'm not waiting around to give this guy a chance. It's too late. Now's the time to set another course, find replacements for Obama and most of Congress, and also time to consider third party options. Time's a wasting and we've gotta get moving.
"It’s hard to avoid the sense that Mr. Obama has wasted months trying to appease people who can’t be appeased, and who take every concession as a sign that he can be rolled."
As far as I can tell, Obama continues to embrace Senator Grassley as a Republican with whom he can work. In my opinion, he is completely deluded. Someone who is that deluded -- with his bipartisan spin -- can not lead.
Supposedly, the public option is back on the table after Obama said, on Sunday, it wasn't on the table, etc.
"his speeches and op-eds still read as if they were written by a committee."
During Obama's campaign, I began to notice that I could finish his sentences before he could. It seemed as if he were rendering the same speech, or similar speeches, again and again. Lots of hope, a lot of "Yes We Cans," but little substance.
Finally, more mainstream progressives have had enough. Now, they are angry?
What if Ralph Nader, the Baucus 13, etc., hadn't taken such a principled and committed stand?
"completely deluded"
Deluded? Don't be naive. If he's deluded then he's stupid. Nope, the pattern shows otherwise, that the guy's a corporate shill and showman.
how much will national health care cost us????
NOTHING.......ZERO......ZIP
in fact it will save us
RIGHT NOW
the OUR GOVERNMENT spends $3300.00 dollars per person per year on health care.........then the rest of us pay thousands more
in ENGLAND where they have national health care....their GOVERNMENT spends $2900.00 per person on healthcare
and THEY have universal coverage
so we ALREADY pay for UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE..... we just are not receiving it.....
why not???
That is the "bottom line" that USans are instructed to avoid.
let's face it - obama is a disaster in the making. he is channelling the worst of both clinton and bush to the utter dismay of the left and to the ecstasy of the now revitalized gop, who were dead and had a do not resuscitate sign on them just 6 month ago.
david michael green from counterpunch: "Barack Obama has given us the worst of all worlds. Passage of a healthcare reform bill – even something barely remotely worthy of the name – now seems like a dubious proposition. If it does pass, it won’t be worth squat. Meanwhile, all the ugliest and most deceitful tactics of regressive politics have floated to the surface in the cesspool of American political discourse, weakly countered at best by a White House that could make SpongeBob SquarePants look like the love child of Genghis Khan and Joseph Stalin by comparison, and is so lame that it couldn’t anticipate and inoculate against these assaults that any fool who wasn’t entirely comatose over the last three decades could plainly see were coming. Worst of all, when the smoke finally clears, this debacle will entail a massive discrediting of so-called liberalism, and a severe imperiling of the Democratic Party (not that it much matters) in the next two election cycles. Think about that for a second. How absolutely, utterly, magnificently inept does one have to be to have revived the hopes of the GOP, a mere 200 days after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney left office? Not just any idiot could pull off a stunt that big, I tell ya. A job like that requires a world-class moron."
an that's what we got: a world class moron
i can hardly wait until he invites putin over for a beer to work out the thorny nuke thing..
i can feel the compromises coming on already
party on barak
Think back to the interminable primary and how Obama was brilliant, he of the fierce urgency of now, the our time has come generation gap, and the leader so charismatic that he could bring along Republicans unlike his divisive opponent. Here we had a leader one step below a god, and yet he is already reduced to being a "world class moron."
One of these things cannot be true. Brilliant or moron? I have a few quibbles with David Green: the bill that passes won't be worth squat: It will be worth billions to the insurance companies. But overall, this liberal saviour that arose from no where and delivered profits and freedom from accountability to the finance world, while rehabilitating a discredited GOP is a stunt that not "just any idiot could pull off".
The trust restoration project is not on the table. But I believe Krugman is right that the administration misunderestimated the clarity with which the public viewed the banker bailout. They are going to spend a lot of time being surprised if they think Obama's presidency can just be a continuation of the campaign - all speeches and posturing- while the destruction of the country continues unabated.
Again, great points. But I don't believe they will be able to pass anything much.
It is very easy to criticize and Monday AM Quarterback Mr. OB. I do not like much of what has happened, and agree that he has been too quick to compromise. That said, on none of the issues where criticism is offered above have there been good or easy choices. The problems were and are so thorny and the situation was so completely screwed by the execrable bastards who handed off to him, that God couldn't have made choices that would have pleased everyone here on this thread. Let's also remember that he is not "dictator" OB, but is forced to work with the corrupt sewage pit called Congress. Politics being the "art of the possible", some things are just not possible. Some days, everyone is forced to do and/or accept less than one would like in a perfect world. This ain't a perfect world. Think what would have happened on every one of these issues if McCain and Palin were doing the deals.
So progressives are now in revolt. Mr. Obama took their trust for granted, and in the process lost it. And now he needs to win it back.
He can't win it back and doesn't really want to. The Republicans are pirates, economic rapists and assassins, and make no bones about it. The Democrats are precisely the same but have to make a real pretense of sensitivity and morality. In this, Obama is a total, unmitigated flop. We all know what he is now: a well spoken marauder. I learned my lesson from this Obama catastrophe. Progressives must abandon Obama en masse. If it costs him reelection in '012, fine and good. Nothing . . . nothing can be accomplished on this plantation called the two party system.
Good points.
It's important that Obama loses big. If he can't be beaten in the primaries (most desirable but unlikely given likely black support) then a 3rd party must take major percentages from the Democrats, like what Ross Perot did to the GOP in 92'.
A major loss for Obama would send a resounding message to the Democats that they can't take the left for granted, and it could also remove alot of the bum ('centrist') Democrats from Congress. This could be a major house cleaning.
At this point, I'm not sure if things could be worse under the GOP. At least people wouildn't be fooled into thinking they're "liberal".
Perot also took Democrat votes, just not as many as GOP. He got mine twice.
What I want is for folks to get ANGRY for 2010. Current congressional behavior sems to guarantee that.
Please, please. Usans shall be delighted with their new Range Rovers during the 2010 'lection season. As a result, they will merrily vote again for "change they can believe in". God Bless the United States of America! You see the payoff, ehh?
I feel absolutely fed up with the Obama presidency. Oh, he talked a good game but he is not much better than Bush. I for one have had it. I now wish the British had won the American Revolutionary War. One promise: I will never, ever, ever vote again for anybody.
I politely suggest that you consider voting Green.
Gerry,
I do understand your feelings of anger and frustration. You feel like a sucker who was lied to. You feel like a sucker for even trusting President Obama to be telling you and all Americans the truth; only to find out once he is elected that he lied. What you thought was real was only a sham. Yes, I know the feeling.
The answer is not in never voting or not getting involved with the political process but in supporting and being active to elect Green Party candidates. The Green party is the only real progressive party and I believe the last real hope America has.
Our government has lost it way. Instead of being a government that represents all the people we have become a government who only represents the wealthy. If we keep silent and refuse to fight or rock the boat than we have allowed the bad guys to win. By our silence we allow the bad guys who have perverted our government to win. Yes, there are times when silence is golden and we Progressives can allow the GOP to self destruct without added comment from Progressives; but this is not an area where we can remind silent. We can't just continue to make excuses, be in denial, or don't care that we have a government who lies, tortures, and all the other crimes it is guilty of. The question that has to be answered is what can we do to take this government back for the PEOPLE?
Third parties is our best hope. Not giving up and just allowing the evil corruption to continue as it has been, but fighting back. Finding our courage and strength to stand up to those who are wrong. Make the candidates EARN our vote and not just fall for campaign spin. Fight for real election campaign reform. Please don't give up, but join the fight of other Progressives.
Best Wishes
Chrisy
We will get no healthcare reform.
I've posted that before and I post it again.
How long can this charade be dragged out? Until election pre-season starts?
Distractions, smoke and mirrors - ignoring war, budget and trade deficits and depression (both mine and the country's).
'Obama's trust problem' - it is to laugh.
barackstar's a one-term superstar, a flash in the pan, and the ultimate snake oil salesman - as dmg states, considering the prior con man, a worthy accomplishment in and of itself.
however, as mordechai states, the one good thing this cheapest of all impostors in the hope and change arena did was teach everyone a lesson, short-lived that it will be: voting for someone or something you believe in is the folly of a fool. watch just how short-lived that is when the next two-party election rolls around.
greed destroyed this man. as well as being just plain "stupid" (careful what you say there, prez). one does not ride the crest of a tidal wave without some sort of liife-saving plan in place. might as well throw ignorance in there as well. ignorant for straddling the fence for too long. there's really no reason to straddle a fence where one side is pissed off. by pissing on the other side, there's ultimately going to be those who get pissed off there as well. it's a no-brainer, barackstar. your ignorance is surpassed only by your stupidity.
there are some mighty strange side effects to this drug called politics.
I am actually dismayed by the difference of the "hosannah in the highest" adulation on this website for Obama during the presidential campaign and the almost 100% panning of the guy today. I do not disagree with the current critics. I simply ask: where were you in the summer/fall of 2008 when your brilliant analytical minds were bitterly needed to unmask this dissembling imperialistic American warlord? Perhaps you will not be fooled again by Obama but what is the chance that you will be fooled again by another Pied Piper of Washington running for president? Pretty big in my opinion. I do not trust most of you either because exactly the same happened in the early years of the Vietnam war when the fight for more civil rights disappeared essentially overnight.
crowsnest to the Obama-disillusioned: "what is the chance that you will be fooled again by another Pied Piper of Washington running for president?" Great question, progressives seem to have a great proclivity for Pied Pipers; how else really to explain their ga-ga in 04 over the faux-progressive Howard Dean? And, by the way do PPs make comebacks after they have screamed their way into political oblivion? Seems to me that HD postured in that direction when he "warned" Democrats that they would be facing primary challenges if they voted against the public option of the health care "reform" bill.
The response to my original posting seems to show that I may have stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest. Incidentally my "name" in the summer/fall of 2008 was "poopdeck" from which I could scan much of the political ocean. When nasty Obama supporters suggested that I was the poop on my own deck I changed to crowsnest from which one can actually see even more of the political ocean than from the poopdeck.
And, by the way do PPs make comebacks after they have screamed their way into political oblivion?
Yes.
Example: Richard Nixon.
You ask where Owebama's critics were in summer/fall of 2008...?
Right here on this website warning everyone and anyone who would listen to:
• check out his senate voting record (war funding, Fisa, Patriot act II, etc)
• check out his campaign advisors (Brezizinsky, etc)
• check out his campaign high donors (Goldman sachs, etc)
• check out his affiliations (Council of Foreign Relations, etc)
• check out his work history (International Business Association, a CIA front company)
Many comments of this nature were deleted...
Many commentors were banned for bringing up these inconvenient truths...
Many liberals and progressives were suffering from conjunctivitis, projecting their hopes upon a Tabla Rasa...
Or holding their noses out of fear of McPalin...
Where were you...?
"Many comments of this nature were deleted..."
"Many commentors were banned for bringing up these inconvenient truths..."
Why???!!! The people running this website, along with those running the "progressive media", should give an honest explanation of why they did this. Were they stupid or bought?
I hammered Obama as hard as anyone, and my comments were never deleted, nor was I banned. CD did have some bigtime software issues during 2008 that created problems. I do know civility was lacking at times, and those coming afowl of the rules got what the rules said would occur.
GoldenMean: a right on post! However you did make a slight error (4th line from bottom) in defining the disease of projecting hopes upon a Tabla Rasa. Actually that's subjunctivitis (Hell, I discovered that syndrome and named the disease: see:
American Politics Has a Bad Case of Subjunctivitis http://sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/?p=240 Pride of authorship you know!
Most contributors in the summer/fall of 2008 either advocated voting for someone else than Obama but too often without explaining why or-and these were the overwhelming majority- "hollered" "Obama in 2008!!!!" again usually without explaining why.
It may be that you ignored the reasons given for voting third party. There's five advantages to voting third party: 1. in line with principles, 2. sends proper message, 3. upholds democracy, 4. potentially upsets the status quo, 5. potentially sends chimpy back with his power tools to finish waking up the sleeping beauties. Notice that voting "least worst" fails on all five accounts. It helps keep the sleeping beauties in dreamy slumber. It reinforces the status quo. It kicks democracy in the teeth. It sends exactly the wrong message. And it completely contradicts the claimed principles of the great majority.
The overwhelming majority of "for a third party candidate" entries during the primary and presidential elections were of the kind such as :"Vote for Nader in 2008" without telling me why I should prefer him to Obama or Hillary or Biden or Richardson or Kucinich. "Nader in 2008" is a bumper sticker posted on a website. Anyone can do that. Prediction: this is going to be repeated in 2010 and 2012 and forever after.
And why did you think it necessary to give me a mini-lecture of five points which I have read before ad nausea on various websites?
Parties are not the problem; our system of governance is the problem hence it makes almost no difference who is elected to the House, the Senate, or the Presidency. Nearly all of them are now purchased on the "candidate market".
Crowsnest, are you talking about LBJ in the early years of Vietnam? He was my first vote for President, and I was furious at the betrayal. The second Democrat I voted for was George McGovern in 1972 but I held my nose on that vote over Thomas Eagleton (not knowing that the Democratic leadership was submarining McGovern). Obama was the third and last. With him I got it that we live in a corporate empire which will never allow anyone to be elected that doesn't carry their water.
We're screwed. Until we throw these pigs out of office we will go on getting screwed. The good news is if we ever do that, we can have some honest representatives write new laws reversing all these thefts of our national treasure and reinvesting in the people who actually create wealth. Of course, we will surely need a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a veto proof majority in the House, neither of which we have at present. At this point I don't see a chance in Hades of the corporate empire allowing us to vote in and keep alive a President who answers to the people. But I don't think even they can get away with assassinating 535 members of Congress. So we need to start with Congress. That's the only place we can create change.
There were a number of people on this site in the summer/fall of 2008 tying themselves into frustrated knots hollering "Don't be fooled! Obama's one of them!". And I was saying I could be wrong, but just maybe he's for real. Of course, being wrong wasn't enough. He far exceeded my expectations on wrongness. I had been reading his foreign policy staff comments about replacing war with diplomacy during the campaign. Yeah, right. He's turned into another mass murderer and is blowing our treasure all at once. What we have so far is a very long list of crimes and a very short list of good deeds. One thing he doesn't seem to get is that you can't compromise with people who refuse to compromise. But perhaps that's the point; he's on their side, he just doesn't want to look like it. The evidence supports that. It's hard to believe that someone that smart could be that dumb. On the other hand, I thought I was smart, but I wasn't. Or like many on this site, I would have seen through him.
When the people fear their government there is tyranny,
when the government fears the people there is liberty.
~ Thomas Jefferson
Be for Kids: I was not referring to LBJ in the context of the Vietnam war. I was referring to the fact that those of us who thought that the civil rights struggle was far from "won" when that war heated up were abandoned essentially overnight by too many so-called liberals who opted for "we must support our soldiers fighting the commies over there" very much like Senator Obama justified his support for the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan where "terrorists" were/are substituted for "commies". The truly sad and shocking fact in the case of Vietnam was for me how many African-Americans were suddenly gung-ho to "defeat the commies over there" for their traditional American tormentors and left us "holding the bag". Sad but no longer shocking to me is how many opponents of the war in Iraq were gung-ho until very recently for the war in Afghanistan.
I did not support McGovern-for-President because I thought then that he would be terrific as a leader of a Boy Scouts Troop but not as our president. Remember how swiftly and totally he disappeared from sight after his defeat leaving the Democratic Party essentially leaderless? I was not surprised.
With regards to the US Senate it is my view that it must be either abolished or castrated because Senators from States which represent a tiny sliver of our national population can wield power far out of whack with the number of people they represent. Yes, minorities must not be bullied but minorities bullying majorities is a prescription for disaster. Castrating the Senate means that it can only vote once on bills originating from the House but cannot originate bills itself. If the House overrides the Senate's nay, that's it; the bill has passed. Most of the so-called "founding fathers" wanted a Senate because they distrusted rabble like me. Small States wanted the Senate for fear that the big States would overwhelm them every time in the House. Today the small States can and often do overwhelm the big ones in the Senate. Interestingly Ben Franklin was for a unicameral representation. As so often he was right.
Yes, there were a number of people on this site in the summer/fall of 2008 tying themselves into frustrated knots hollering "Don't be fooled! Obama's one of them!". I am not sure what you mean by "them" and there were not many "hollerers" then anyway. During those months I did not "holler" or called him "one of them" but pointed out on the basis of at least two printed interviews that Obama had given to the Chicago Tribune and his speeches at AIPAC that he was an imperialist, perhaps a "lite" imperialist, and that he had absolutely no intention to truly advocate a country for the Palestinians. I predicted with great certainty that his intention to widen the war in Afghanistan and to transgress the border into Pakistan was not hollow and that he would start a war of his own which he has. I pointed out that he repeatedly told crowds "we will change America first and then the world". Now, if that is not a form of megalomania I don't know any more what megalomania is. I pointed out the falsehood of his "opposition to the Iraq war" on the basis of a 1990 US Supreme Court ruling that a vote in the House or Senate for the funding of a specific war is the equivalent of a declaration of war even in the absence of a formal declaration of that war by the Congress. In the Senate Obama voted at least twice to confirm that Bush's war in Iraq was legal and that he supported it with funds but falsely continued the sell his "opposition" to the war in Iraq on the basis of a single speech which he had made several years before when he bore no responsibility for the continuation of that war. I pointed out that, on the whole, he was also spouting a lot of hot air during the primaries and the presidential campaign.
Because I do not like long entries (mine is already much too long) I will not analyze the current state and a likely future of the Obama administration here. I may do that soon elsewhere.
chrisy, any suggestions for viable third party candidates who could earn my vote. here's what it's going to take to earn my vote in the future: honesty, leadership skills, brilliance (attached to a spine), communication skills, and a set of cojones big enough to take on the corrupt repulsicans and almost as corrupt democrats. i'm not asking for much.
WELL OBAMA'S SURE AS HELL NOT GOING TO GET MY TRUST BACK! He has betrayed the left on not one or two things he claimed to stand for but on virtually every issue right on down the line! Now we're going to be in Iraq for many many more years, as all the new military fortresses attest, he has doubled the senseless war in Afghanistan, as if terrorists can only plot their evil deeds from there, and extended it into Pakistan where we are now more hated than even the Indians. Obama has also done nothing even to investigate the horrendous use of torture and wholesale repudiation of the Geneva Conventions by the Bush regime, -- he'd rather it "just went away" and hence he is still trying to block all publication of the pictures and other evidence of massive abuse by our soldiers under direct orders of their commanders. But as Lewis Lapham wisely reminds us; "history is the weapon with which we defend the future against the past," and by not investigating, not to mention prosecuting the Bush human rights criminals, Obama is already engaged in repeating their torture techniques and "indefinite detentions" as standard U.S. policy thereby ruining our international reputation and legitimating dozens of barbaric regimes which can now justify their own use of torture by invoking the example of the United States.
Well, as we all know, a full list of the legion betrayals which have suddenly, "just out of the blue," brought this mysterious "backlash" from progressives into being would take pages and pages of commentary. But Krugman is quite right that first and foremost among them all was his TOTAL, AND THOROUGHLY COWARDLY CAPITULATION TO THE BANKSTER RACKETEERS WHO DESTROYED NOT ONLY THE U.S., BUT THE ENTIRE GLOBAL ECONOMY PARTLY THROUGH ACTIONS THAT ARE PATENTLY ILLEGAL, EVEN UNDER EXISTING LAW, AND PARTLY THROUGH ACTIONS THAT ARE ONLY LEGAL BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY HAS BEEN ABLE TO CORRUPT THE SYSTEM SO THOROUGHLY THAT EVEN THE TERM "DEREGULATION" IS VIRTUALLY AS MEANINGLESS AS THE TERM "ENFORCEMENT" HAS LONG BEEN. Even at this late date, nine months later, we have seen now serious audits of any of the fraudulent banks and mortgage institutions, nor even any beginning of criminal prosecutions of the most egregious violators, not even any large-scale firings of the executives who caused the trillions of assets to simply "disappear"! Indeed even the few token committees appointed to make things look a bit kosher to the public, like the TARP Oversight Committee led valiantly by Elizabeth Warren, have been repeatedly stonewalled and hampered in every attempt to investigate what really happened that they have initiated.
SO HOW IN THE WORLD COULD ANY "PROGRESSIVE" IN HER OR HIS RIGHT MINE POSSIBLY TRUST AN OBAMA WHO HAS SHOWN HIMSELF, NOT JUST ONCE OR TWICE, BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, TO BE TOTALLY WILLING TO LET EVERY MANNER OF WELL-DOCUMENTED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY PASS BY UNPUNISHED, UNPROSECUTED, EVEN UNINVESTIGATED?
Krugman's Trust Problem ...
After his Swiss Cheese column ... No Dr. Krugman, Obama is not offering the Swiss Plan ... not even close ...
It is simple Paul ... Progressives don't want banksters looting the country, we don't want endless wars, we don't want Bush policies with lipstick ... and we sure as Hell don't want the Candidate Barack telling us about his plans for transparency while President Barack huddles in back rooms with Health Care Inc.
Yes Paul, it is a question of trust because there has been so much deception, so much cronyism and so many lies ... This is NOT "change we can believe in" ... This is betrayal pure and simple ...
No he doesn't need to win it back! What for? Except as a periodic electoral legitimization sham, popular support matters hardly at all in terms of actual U.S. governance!
Those interests that actually run USA Incorporated couldn't care less if Obama self destructs totally. In fact, it was almost certainly foreseen and expected. They'll simply arrange another in the endless series of restricted choice electoral processes with their own pre-approved candidates and carry on as before with a renewed mandate and "democratic" legitimization. Works every time.
In any case the so-called "public option" was just flim-flam in the first place. What Obama has recently begun calling "health insurance reform" has absolutely nothing whatever to do with health care in any case. It's ONLY about revenue handling and the "paying mechanism." Nothing else. In another CD article posted today, Rep. Anthony Weiner asks the following questions:
"What is an insurance company? They don't do a single check-up. They don't do a single exam, they don't perform an operation. [...] I've asked you three times. What is their value? What are they bringing to the deal?"
What "value added" benefit does the insurance industry provide to justify skimming huge profits from the processes of collecting and dispersing revenues involved in paying for heath care?
The answer, of course, is none at all. Not to patients. Not to doctors. Not to anyone. To the contrary, their incentive (and, in fact, their singular fiduciary responsibility) is to maximize their own profits by reducing benefits which they accomplish through administrative and other procedures that actually interfere with health care itself and with every aspect of access and delivery.
So why would anyone in his right mind advocate any kind of "reform" other than the total elimination of a "value subtracted" profiteering industry? Are Americans really so dedicated to the concept of capitalism for it own sake alone that they'll sustain private profits even when the returns are negative? Or are they just too stupid to handle simple arithmetic and even simpler logic?
Answer: NO! They just can't figure out how to deal with the fact that they no longer live in a democracy if they ever did. Some can't even admit that glaring reality to themselves and so will live in vain hope repeating the same utterly futile activities endlessly unto death.
From my perspective, most Americans don't understand the concepts of democracy, socialism, or now unfortunately, fascism. This is not an accident, your populace has been systemically dumbed down for years, and turned into consumer drones who care only about sitcoms, SUV's and G.I. Joe. It's happening here in Canada too, and if the Conservatives, or the liberals really, stay in power then it's only going to continue. If they had any idea about the big picture the cognitive dissonance that they would experience would drop them into a deep depression I'm sure. Great news for big pharma, they get to sell more depression medication! The shit flurry that is America is picking up in intensity; get your credit card bought, sweatshop made, brand-name jacket 'cause a shitstorm is on the way.
Perhaps it would be more charitable to suggest that Americans, to whatever extent they may understand various governance concepts, seem to have some very grave difficulty with abandonning their country's mythological "freedom and democracy" and accepting the grim realities. The obsession with rationalizing and excusing any and all indications contrary to their "patriotic" blindness is understandable, but ultimately destructive to any effective solutions.