More Than a Mile High With Barack Obama
I'm doing my bit to get Barack Obama elected -- enough of a bit to earn a seat high up in the upper deck of Invesco Field at Mile High, where I watched the candidate accept his party's nomination for president.
The convention planners didn't make it easy. There were endless lines to get in and endless human logjams to get out. There was terrible stadium food all day at terribly inflated prices, because the security checks kept us from bringing in our own food, though they certainly weren't thorough enough to prevent anyone bent on evildoing from bringing in a bomb. The elaborate security gauntlet was just one more in a day full of reminders that politics is theater. Politics has always been theater, of course, among other things. But we are steadily moving toward the day when politics is nothing but theater.
Not that I had reason to complain. I was there for the theater. I had not come to learn new ideas or be persuaded by logical arguments. I already knew the safe, moderate, liberal positions the Democrats were staking out. I knew they are only small steps toward the kind of change this country really needs. I had done all my thinking and decided that small steps forward are much better than a huge step backward. That's why I am doing my bit to get Obama elected, with no illusions.
No, I was not at the great event for intellectual enrichment. I was there for the theatrical pleasure of witnessing a live performance by a truly great political orator. I got a little bit of what I came for -- yet not nearly enough of it. After an eloquent beginning, Obama moved into a well delivered but essentially quite conventional rhetorical style: attack the political enemy, then offer a laundry list of "if I am elected" promises.
Maybe at a convention one should expect the conventional. But I had come for the unconventional, the experience of being swept away by the kind of stirring words we have not heard in this country since MLK was with us. I finally began to get what I came for when Obama quoted that "young preacher from Georgia": "'We cannot walk alone,' the preacher cried. 'And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead. We cannot turn back.'" When Obama continued, "America, we cannot turn back" I saw his own soaring oratory coming and I settled in to enjoy the emotional ride.
But no sooner had he shifted into high gear than it all suddenly ended. The only fireworks I got were the literal ones shooting into the sky above the stadium. Why were the verbal pyrotechnics so brief and muted? The pundits and talking heads know, because they are the main audience Obama was addressing. Had he given the kind of stirring speech I came for, their assessment would have been nearly unanimous: All glitter and no substance. Now, they all agreed, his "workmanlike" speech (Obama's own term for it) had avoided that dreaded verdict.
So the Republicans, tutored by Karl Rove, have done it again. They have turned their opponent's greatest asset into a liability. They have convinced the pundits that the crucial swing voters mistrust inspiring rhetoric. According to the pundits' Rovian story, those swing voters reject Obama's rhetoric as superficial and fear that it's meant to manipulate the unsuspecting masses toward nefarious liberal ends. Simply by repeating that story often enough, the pundits have made it come true. Apparently Obama now sees his own oratorical gift as a potential liability.
Which raises some questions: If we are heading toward a politics of pure theater, what kind of theater will it be? Who will get to decide? Who will get to write, produce, and direct our electoral spectaculars?
Being more than a mile high on Thursday night I got a pretty clear view of some answers. The future will hold less and less of a place for the thoughtful individual who chooses words carefully and articulates them with eloquence and passion. The very idea that words can blend intellectual sophistication with genuine human emotion, which was once the heart of political rhetoric, will gradually disappear. Our political words will come more and more from the talking heads who give us slick soundbites and superficial one-liners that generate more heat than light.
If, that is, there are any words at all. Because the mile-high spectacle, even though set against the backdrop of a fake Greek temple, made it stunningly clear that no political leader can ever again hope to play God. Even Obama must bow down in utter subservience to the real God of politics present and future: the almighty visual image mediated by the omnipotent television camera. If any human can hope to play God, it's the people behind the camera. But they know best of all that the medium rules, and they merely serve its technical commandments.
That's hardly an original insight. MLK was still alive when we all learned the mantra: The medium is the message. Only a bit later, when the radicalism of the '60s turned to the self-realization of the '70s, we added the corollary: The medium is the massage. The Obama campaign is assiduously massaging the tender sensitivities of the punditry and the "ordinary Americans" whose views those pundits claim to understand.
Those "ordinary Americans," perhaps more invented than represented by the pundits, are an incredibly demanding audience. They insist that the leading man (and perhaps some time soon woman) must be tough as nails (hence Obama's attack on McCain) yet highly sensitive to their needs (hence his laundry list of promises). He must be very specific in his plans for the future without boring us with specifics. He must affirm that America is unquestionably good in the present while insisting it must be transformed to make it better in the future. He must prove that he is wise enough to navigate every political storm while being ordinary enough to be "one of us." He must stand out from the crowd without every rising above the crowd.
That last rule is especially impossible to obey when the candidate is not Caucasian, as we've discovered this year. To be "one of us," when "us" is defined as white, he must be proud of his own heritage while acting as if he had no racial heritage. He must not evade the racial issue yet he must not make race an issue. And he must make us feel good and happy with his warm smile, yet without laughing or even smiling too much.
On top of all that, we now know that the candidate must speak words that are eloquent but not too eloquent, inspiring but not too inspiring. He must rely on words to get his message across yet be sure that, above all, he creates an enjoyable television show. Which brings us back to the increasingly fundamental law of American politics: The medium is the massage, and the medium is television, which is all about pictures. Words are secondary, disposable, and often not necessary at all.
Political conventions themselves make the point. The big screen, which began as merely an optional technological gimmick providing backdrop to the real show of spoken words, has become an absolutely necessary part of, and often the center of, the show. The now-mandatory biopic preceding the acceptance speech is produced with as much care as the speech itself. Indeed the Obama team, faced with the pundits' demand that their candidate "define himself for ordinary Americans," relied mainly on a well-produced biopic to do the job.
When the biopic ended, leaving me waiting eagerly to see who would introduce the candidate, I was stunned to see a seamless segue between the TV show's heart-tugging ending and the unexpected appearance of the candidate himself. The task of pronouncing those treasured words, "Ladies and gentleman, I give you the next president of the United States" was once among the most coveted role in national politics. Franklin D. Roosevelt, who played the role in 1924 and 1928, did it so well that he guaranteed his own nomination in 1932. But now a TV show does it. And theatrically it worked wonderfully well; yet one more task once done by humans that can now be done just fine by machines.
Which left me thinking how appropriate it was that I pondered all this while I was more than a mile high. Perhaps I should have been eight miles high. Because the legacy of the 1960s hovered over Invesco Field in so many ways. It was more than the minimal connection between Obama and that era, which the McCain campaign is vastly overstating. It was more than the fleeting reference to the preacher from Georgia who did so much (though unwittingly) to foster the counterculture "the sixties."
It was the deep and genuine concern among nearly all the 84,000 gathered there to see us turn away from a soulless, individualistic, inhumane corporate society to a one-to-one caring for the real being of real people -- the kind of caring that actually did flourish in the counterculture, in spite of the haze of psychedelic smoke hanging over that culture but even more because of that haze.
The smoke was hardly necessary. The totally "straight" MLK's eloquent pleas for a more humane America demonstrated that. So did the organizing genius of Saul Alinsky, which Obama learned two decades later on the streets of Chicago and is now using, another two decades later, with so much success. For many, though, the smoke and the high did open up the kind of direct I-Thou communication with another person that seemed so lacking between Lucy and Ricky or even Wally and the Beaver, and seems so lacking again in our Reagan-Bushite era of infotainment.
Yet the smoke was a two-edged sword, because it also unleashed an unprecedented wave of psychedelic creativity that now washes up every minute on the shores of hundreds of TV stations, most notably in the great art form of our time: the television commercial. And the same people who produce the best commercials, mesmerizing us with their endless cascades of masterful semi-hallucinatory imagery, also run the political campaigns of every candidate who can pay their sky-high prices.
That's why politics is so immersed in money. That's why politicians are so beholden to the corporate fat cats. The sixties revealed the irresistible power of psychedelic imagery. When the military-industrial complex supplied the technology that could digitize that imagery and broadcast it to the masses, the future of American politics was set. It moves, and perhaps must move, inexorably toward the kind of media spectacle the Democrats gave us in Invesco Field at Mile High and the Republicans will do their best to match in St. Paul.
Tracing both the form and the content of the Obama campaign back to the counterculture of the sixties points to a lesson for progressive politics. We often stumble over a seemingly inescapable paradox. We want political policies that will meet the real needs of real people and open up more genuine, caring person-to-person relationships. Yet to achieve those goals we need political power. To get that power we have to prevail over those who now have power in the electoral arena.
And it's hard to see how to do that on any large scale -- certainly on a national scale -- without using the same dazzling yet dehumanizing technology they use so successfully. Even the real successes of the netroots reveal the limits of alternative technology. The rapid turning of the netroots away from online words to online video indicate clearly which technological game we have to play to be political winners.
Can we achieve truly humanizing ends using means that can so easily be dehumanizing? The answer lies hidden in that haze of sixties' smoke. It's a pretty thick haze, thick enough to lead us to plenty of false starts and dead ends. But somewhere in there is the memory of a culture that found the dazzle of psychedelic imagery really helping people connect with the honest truth of other people, care more deeply about their needs, and dedicate themselves to a politics that would meet those needs.
Why was the synergy of psychedelia and human caring easier to find forty years ago than it is today? There is no single or simple answer. The few people who are exploring this question in serious depth come up with lots of different answers. The one thing they agree on is that the question is vitally important. It reminds us that the synergy is possible. There are plenty of Americans alive today who knows it's possible because they lived it.
Some still live it now as they move toward older age, and they encourage younger generations to do the same. The challenge is to turn those individual experiences once again into a radical political-cultural movement. That might give our leaders permission to offer us thoughtful words spoken with passionate eloquence -- the kind of words that once, delivered by that famous young preacher from Georgia, changed our lives forever and helped pave the way for an African-American to enter the White House. That's a challenge worth exploring for years to come.
Meanwhile, today, I'll be doing my bit to help get Barack Obama reach the White House by using the oldest, most traditional political method of all: simply talking, person-to-person. I'll be knocking on my neighbors' doors along with tens of thousands of other volunteers, guided by campaign staffers trained in community organizing techniques. I'll be giving my neighbors campaign leaflets and striking up conversations about the candidates -- if my neighbors are willing to get up off their couches and take their eyes off the TV just long enough to answer the door.
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Show AllBefore banging on doors, Ira might want to take the lesson this offers by a true progessive voice:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/01-4
We Can Directly Challenge The Nominees On The Issue Of War Or peace?"
"How?"
"By how they respond to our demand that Congress set up an independent commission to investigate the Bush administration's role in the sneak (Pearl Harbor-like) attack upon South Ossetia that was carried out on August 7th by U.S. funded and trained troops of the Republic of Georgia."
"Say a nominee opposes such an investigation?"
"He or she is a warmonger."
"And a nominee who's for finding out what role the Bush administration had in last month's attack on South Ossetia?"
"There's our peacemaker."
"Based on?"
"The lives that this investigation can save."
"How?"
"By preventing a nuclear war."
The political spectrum has shifted so far to the right that most Democrats are actually slightly left of center Republicans. They support a candidate that advocates for war and a police state. They put protesters in cages and they barely bat an eyelash.
Democrats can do this because they know most of their supporters are basic lesser-evilists. Given a choice between Stalin and McCAin Democrats would naturally choose McCain instead of rejecting them both and voting for a 3rd party.
Leea August 31st, 2008 11:45 am writes, "Obama's job? Or Our job?"
Just insert people for democracy and Obama in the questions below and let democracy begin because as long as the job of three hundred million is foisted on one, it will never be done.
1. Why have the Democrats not stopped the war?
2. Why have the Democrats not impeached Bush?
3. Why have the Democrats not closed down Guantanamo?
4. Why have the Democrats allowed Bush to torture prisoners?
5. Why did Obama vote to give immunity to Bush and the Telecoms for illegal spying?
6. Why does Obama want 100,000 more troops?
7. Why doesn't Obama talk about institutionalized racism?
8. Why doesn't Obama talk about reducing military spending?
9. Why doesn't Obama talk about single payer?
10. Why doesn't Obama talk about Katrina?
Notice this Dem Party Supporter doesn't even attempt to explain any of the traitorous actions of the Democrats. She would never think to vote for the Green Party, Ralph Nader or any 3rd party that would have opposed everything the Republicans and Democrats did.
She attempts to excuse it by BLAMING the victims. You are right about this: It's the millions of people LIKE YOU that are to blame for voting for Democrats. It's the people like me that finally woke up and stopped voting for Democrats that are NOT TO BLAME.
I DO MY PART - I DON'T VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON"T BLAME ME!!!!!!
Fear, fear and more fear. Of being labeled, in an election year, of being weak on terrorism. Of an attack taking place and getting blamed for not giving the R's all the tools they say they need. Of losing congress because the R's used your vote against you.
I don't agree with any of it, but that's what's behind the D's capitulation.
And it doesn't change the fact that the fascist, authoritarian push is being engineered and led by the Republicans. Do you really believe we would be where we are today if Gore was in office for the last 8 years?
"As long as Democrats continue to vote for sell outs then 3rd parties will never stand a chance."
Even if D's started voting for third parties en mass, they would not all go green. There are still plenty of right leaning D's (Hillary supporters) who will stay with their party. So, the left in America would effectively be split into two camps: call them Greens and Democrats. Each party will have maybe 25% of the vote if you believe the polls. Meanwhile the jack-boot party will be marching in lock-step like they always do. And since we don't have a system where two parties can join up to rule, we'll be left with The American Fascist party stepping on out throats. Sound good?
This is for anyone who still thinks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPbJY2rs0QI
Siouxrose,
Obama's work is his work, and mine is mine. I cannot do his for him and he cannot do mine for me.
I cannot expect him to act first for me, this expectation will keep us all sleeping forever, because we cannot find that other person, when that person is us.
It is time to leave this belief behind, fully.
I have no thoughts of Obama, let us release him to have thoughts for himself and think for ourselves.
This is the critical mass we are waiting for, it is that simple, and yet that mantle, veil of all veils, keeps us all from seeing.
LEEA: There's no question that enlightenment is an inside job, however, it is equally important to build a SOCIETY that favors the evolution of its members, rather than their bondage to debt, barren jobs, subliminal support for empire (that spreads the darkest karma around), while exposing its members to a variety of toxic waste and other detritus. Obama has SOLD OUT. If at first his words raised the hope of change and galvanized people, not suprising given the poll numbers of those who have faith in this congress or this presidency, that was one thing... but since gaining the nomination, he has morphed into another version of Republican lite, at a time this nation can ill afford more of same. As many in this forum wisely point out, he only slows our nation's rush into the abyss; unless he does access a spiritual epiphany and rises above his lower self to become a genuinely decent leader. That could happen, and pigs might one day fly, too.
"And if the butterfly could see the hard dead mantle of it's awakening, it might sleep forever.
But the butterfly never did eat an apple and it is still fully in the garden of it's spirit, and the mantle forever lost from sight."
RALPH442: I'm all for developing ALL portions of the self and the psyche, and it seems that a spiritual practice is a requirement these days to offset how foul things have gotten on the material plane. I was in India once, and that may be enough for me... although I would return to Nepal, the Buddhist monastery if the opportunity presents itself; and I have a profound respect for and attraction to much of Asia.
INSTANT KARMA: The moon is not a "planet" but there's NO question it influences oceanic tidal cycles along with the menstrual cycles of half the human population. These cosmic guardians, vital satellite dishes of a sort, are mandated to fulfill specific functions. They are DIVINE clockworks that orchestrate specific themes, and having studied astrology (and related mystical schools of thought) for about 40 years, I believe I am qualified to attest to the veracity of this subject matter. I have "read" for hundreds, my columns on the subject have been read by thousands, my Florida Keys TV show was VERY popular for the 7 years it aired, and the fact that a huge percentage of living souls believe in reincarnation or subjects that defy the laws of the physical universe (or so appearances would suggest) indicate that we do not know all that can be known.
Yes, this is the YUGA phase of transition, but I was speaking about the programming that has led us to this phase where most minds are so ensconced in the illusion of their bodies, the physicality of matter, that anything more transcendental seems "flakey." I make it a point to remain aware of the trends on THIS plane, so that I can coordinate them with the "cosmic weather report," and appreciate those who resonate with what I can add to this forum. Goddess knows the places and venues that welcome astrology are as few and far between as those that likely existed during the last Inquisition. I try to stay away from fires these days, too.
True believers, one and all...
Ok Raptor, you had your moment of glory forty years ago, and that was your one brave act of courage that has left you filled with fear and sarcasm to last the ages?
You think todays generation is not persecuted?
Well thank you for your sacrifice, but can that act change todays reality and just because they are not cracking open our heads enough does that mean we are all lost to the voice of Saruman?
What is it you are doing today if anything at all, and who is listening today to that quiet voice inside?
And thank you for your fear driven enterprise. Striking how people of your appellation always strike back with an authoritarian thunder when your born again zeal is questioned. But since your under simplification of my background challenges the context of my words, I have worked in the non profit world all my life for sub standard pay, while trying to improve the environment. Especially the old growth forest in the Pacific Northwest. Here is a little secret your handlers don't tell you but the Democratic and Republican parties are now organizing the last buffalo hunt with regards the ancient forests. Something that does not regester while driving your SUV no doubt, and rubbing elbows with elites like Ira. My advice is go cry somewhere else, while delievering your 'one size fits all' doctrine to the rest of the true believers you and Ira represent.
Bravo Ira, well written and thought out.
However your generation is perhaps simply beyond the present generations comprehension of the how. Even as you do the work of the how.
How will it work now. It won't work the way it did in the sixty's or seventy's.
Today it's going to work in the way that all new realities must. We are in the eights of or time, and very significant and yet hidden this beginning is.
Today if glory is to be found and founded again, it will be found with us, every one.
Not just one.
That is something that may be beyond the generation of the 'oneies', that looked with hungry eyes and listened with hungry ears for a modern day prophet and savior, that director of their fate. That external compass, when the internal compass had been too muted by the times.
Prepare for the end of one and the beginning of everyone, the all encompassing eternal reality that the eights simply represent, the all, the we, the broken parts united into a whole.
Obama said, "I get it", and he refused to be your savior.
He unwittingly opened the door on the future when he then said "it's been about you". That door will stay open today only if,
"We get it" Because we find that glory again within, and end the time of looking without.
We then start to be that leader we are looking for, and democracy gains it's chance to begin to produce it's next harvest after a long hard winter season two hundred and thirty two years after it's planting.
It sounds to me as if Ira got it, even as he grieves what he missed.
But who else will get it, and who is ready to find grace in their own salvation?
Man, the preaching brigade is out in force on this thread.
Lttle brother that is hilarious!!!
"The Voice of Saruman was "low and melodious, its very sound an enchantment … it was a delight to hear the voice speaking, all that it said seemed wise and reasonable, and desire woke in them by swift agreement to seem wise themselves … for those whom it conquered the spell endured while they were far away and ever they heard that soft voice whispering and urging them."
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I was at the Democratic Convention in in 68 and participated in the protests. Got my head cracked open by the gestapo otherwise known as Chicago PD. Funny how the circle turns, back in 68 Hayden was with us, now he is part of the status quo like Chernus and his meek disciples. Amazing what a enfranchised job will do to radicals and when old age seeps in.
By coincidence, I spent four hours on Saturday here in Dubuque on door-knocking for Obama-Biden and our Democratic Party ticket which includes Senator Tom Harkin and Rep. Bruce Braley along with fine Iowa legislature candidates.
Your last paragraph, Ira, very well decribes that activity!
Most on my list were "Not Home" or unwilling "to get of their couches" (there was a college football game on TV!).
Many report that they are still undecided. It was encouraging to hear those few declare, "I'm voting for Obama!"
While I don't enjoy door-knocking, I know it has to be done to win elections, and that makes the tiredness of it worthwhile.
Dubuque has a Labor Day parade and I'll march for Obama there, too.
Bill
My perspective is simple: for the first time in the history of our benighted republic we have the opportunity to promote healing and racial reconciliation in those two minutes in the voting booth by casting our presidential ballots for a qualified, compassionate, admirable African American candidate.
How does a man who plays the race card over and over promote healing and racial reconciliation? My fear is if Obama gets elected that he will divide this Country even further. By playing the race card he has proven he does not care about healing the Country - he cares about winning at all cost. As during the primary season and the general election we are told we are racist if we even ask questions about where Obama stands on issues. We are smeared and called names if we disagree with him on anything. If he is elected this won't get better it will get worse. Reminds me so much of Bush supporters. I am not crazy about McCain - but I will say I like what I hear of Palin. There is a woman who actually fought corruption and won. She doesn't just hope for change - she works for it. She seems to have more experience and more guts than Obama, Biden and McCain! It is horrible to see the democrats smearing her with their sexist rants just like they did to Hillary. Why not give her credit for the honest work she did. Country should come first. None of the other candidates can make the same claim. It makes me ashamed to be a democrat.
Holy crap!! Perhaps you should get your news from sources other than Fox and Rush.
"NateW August 30th, 2008 12:15 pm
'Ira, shame on you! You should be telling people that we do not have a working democracy or real Constituion at this point. Instead, you will be out tripping for Joe Biden and team Obama? You have lost your moral compass.'
So Ira should sit on his hands instead and watch McCain get elected instead? Because that is the effective result of what you propose."
GOOD LUCK to you NateW. I'm definitely against McCain and expect nothing good of Biden-Obama or Obama-Biden, and while you're luck's "running with you" or your way, we should see Biden indicted and convicted, n'est-ce pas, President Obama indicting his VP Biden! That might be persuasive integrity or integral action for critics who are for neither McCain nor Obama. Sure, it wouldn't seem integral with Obama accepting Biden for VP, but it would be with law.
Another white-washing presidency, either way; it sure seems. Or has Biden gone through drastic conversion? I doubt it, but guess it's possible.
Voting for Nader or McKinney is NOT voting for McCain; not necessarily, that is. That can be the purpose, but it can also be to vote out of conscience and wishing for the vote to count for some statement of citizenship, instead of not voting because neither of these candidates will win. Obama has the election "wrapped up", I believe. A lot of people push or cheerlead for Obama because they don't perceive an alternative, besides McCain, but there are better candidates than both of them running and [democracy] means that people can vote while doing so for neither of these two candidates.
I usually don't vote and let the gambling crowd do so, which seems to always get us back to square one, needing to start completely over. Is the faith in Obama again misplaced? His senatorial votes and pledge to escalate in Afghanistan, his bs about Pakistan and Iran, and U.S. militarism, FISA, ...; he's definitely not promising. Quite a gamble. I guess his supporters are "high rollers". Roll them dice baby, snake eyes.
You have nothing to worry about, for it's very, very unlikely that Obama will lose to McCain; there surely being more voters supporting Obama and it's just "news" media causing people to doubt. So let's see what your dice throw will lead to. Anyone who thinks Obama will be allowed to replace The Estabishment is dreaming; although plenty of people still aren't aware of The Establishment yet.
I listened to some of Obama's and Billary's words this week with the DNC and what do I get for reading? Hypocrites and definitely untrustworthy. But nearly everyone is leaning towards this pair and there's no simple or easy way to reverse this tide. MLK Jr believed in and lived the Sermon on the Mount's teachings; Obama trashes them. Even an athiest of sound intellect realises that Obama's again mistaken and wrongful.
Settling for less than trustworthy is not my way; and I don't rely on trusting that criminality will be the outcome of what or who ever the trust is invested in for guage. No, I guage based on absence of such likelihood.
Maybe a miracle will happen with Obama.
maybe the miracle we need is with us.
Ultimately the presidential election is going to come down to swing voters in Ohio and Pennsylvania. I expect John McCain to be our next President.
I urge Obama supporters to reconsider their ill-advised vote. It will hinder true progress for all of the reasons that have been articulated over and over on these pages. It's painful that we have to work so slowly to get a more progressive vision (we can't "win" this time) but by voting for Obama we slow down our progress. We have to make a conscious decision to say a loud "NO!" to the Democratic party, at all levels (even the few "good" ones, because they are enablers). It hurts. It's difficult. Yet it's also necessary. We can't get there by voting for Obama.
Well we're all in our little ivory towers tonight. It's so easy to be pure if you never go out of the house. Remember pure ideology leads to merciless horrors as ideologues try and force the peoples into their brittle theories. Mao, Stalin, and countless religious leads of the past started off thinking they were going to help humanity. They developed blueprints and then tried to force people into compliance. When they resisted or the theory was simply false, they prescribed even more more drastic "surgery" until the patient was dead, only to replaced by another, in an ongoing hellish experiment. The child is crying. What to do? Beat him harder! Until he is dead.
Most of the neo-crazies were all Leninists/trotskyites in the 50's (under Irving Strauss?) and when they realized that was a dead end, they did a 180 into Ian Rand and so called libertarianism which morphed into neo-conservatism (social darwinism) and the sanctity of the marketplace became god.
Christ, there is no pure anything in this damn world of duality, so go out side and pick a dying person off the street, hold him in your arms, give him a drink, and let him die with the faintest of smiles.... (any illusion to mother theresa should be taken). Or sit on the curb and spout perfection about the right moment, place, or person that will eventually heal all wounds and cry's.
Politics is not pure, nor are we, place your bets now or never be free.
P.S. we all know who we will vote for, or if we will vote at all. There our almost zero sing votes here on common dreams, so arguments (like mine) are an exercise in late night personal therapy.... forgive me!
i am not decided at all, who decides before hearing all the evidence, and who rushes to make their decision when they have many days left to keep their ears open?
What are you saying, Ralph? That if the Greens ever get into power, they will shut down the Bill of Rights, take away your right of habeas corpus, spy on citizens, torture people? Or are you saying that if Obama is elected these problems will be history?
What's ivory tower? Participatory democracy? Self-informed citizens? Immunity to corporate bullshit?
I personally get out of the house a lot.
Excuse me if I misunderstood you.
Good for you, Ira. And don't forget, in approximately 12 weeks we can look forward to the kind of Inaugural Address that only a Barak Obama, a JFK, an FDR or a Lincoln could give. JFK didn't get elected by campaigning for peace; FDR didn't get elected by campaigning to end segregation; Lincoln didn't get elected by promising to free the slaves. Every word out of Barak's mouth is distorted by the media armies of Murdoch and the Neo-Cons. When the bully pulpit truly belongs to him, I predict it will be used in ways only previously imagined in the history of this benighted republic.
The Voice of Saruman was "low and melodious, its very sound an enchantment … it was a delight to hear the voice speaking, all that it said seemed wise and reasonable, and desire woke in them by swift agreement to seem wise themselves … for those whom it conquered the spell endured while they were far away and ever they heard that soft voice whispering and urging them."
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[And yet simple-minded critics once breezily dismissed Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" as mere childish, escapist fiction, of no real value compared to sophisticated "realistic" modern novels.]
Oh sure, as if FDR ended segregation or JFK achieved peace, what planet are you on?
Obama is a neo-con at heart, sweetie, he voted to fund both wars and now wants to escalate one of them, wake up. He voted to award the phone companies for spying on Americans, the man makes Hillary look liberal, and she's nothing but a corporate suit.
And the credit card industry has a dream ticket.
well, la de da.
Thanks FiddlerJones. I hadn't thought of that.
Two minor points. FDR uses the term "democracy" in the manner of persons throughout our history (including de Tocqueville, famously, in "Democracy in America".) It is used correctly in that it denotes "government in which the people hold the ruling power either directly or through elected representatives" (Here e.g. the definition in Webster's New World Dictionary.) Every now and then someone will attempt to put someone down saying we are a republic rather than a democracy -- see Nate W. above. (I am, of course, speaking of pre-USA"PATRIOT" Act, Military Commissions Act U.S.)
Also, I'm all for voting Green or Nader or third party if our consciences tell us to do so...but Cynthia McKinney has a name. She is not Ms. Green.
(By all means, vote Green in local races.)
By the way, if you want to hear soaring campaign rhetoric of the type which Obama did not deliver, go to:
http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3305
and listen as FDR on June 27,1936 tells an assembled crowd of 60,000 at Franklin field in Philadelphia among other things:
"Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference.
There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with destiny.
In this world of ours in other lands, there are some people, who, in times past, have lived and fought for freedom, and seem to have grown too weary to carry on the fight. They have sold their heritage of freedom for the illusion of a living. They have yielded their democracy.
I believe in my heart that only our success can stir their ancient hope. They begin to know that here in America we are waging a great and successful war. It is not alone a war against want and destitution and economic demoralization. It is more than that; it is a war for the survival of democracy. We are fighting to save a great and precious form of government for ourselves and for the world.
I accept the commission you have tendered me. I join with you. I am enlisted for the duration of the war."
Poet
This line about our rendezvous with destiny is sublime.
It sounds like you get it.
Democracy will take it's next step when enough of us reach the point of critical mass that gets it' too.
Aloha Poet,
FDR had "owned" the bully pulpit for four years at that point, and knew that he was likely to be re-elected. I predict the Obama Inaugural Address will be historic, and all that any of his supporters could ask for.
Okay kokuaguy, for you I recomend the FDR innaugural of 03-04-33:
http://millercenter.org/scripps/archive/speeches/detail/3280
Where he said among other things:
" So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days."...
" Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily this is because rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and have abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men."
"If I read the temper of our people correctly, we now realize as we have never realized before our interdependence on each other; that we cannot merely take but we must give as well; that if we are to go forward, we must move as a trained and loyal army willing to sacrifice for the good of a common discipline, because without such discipline no progress is made, no leadership becomes effective. We are, I know, ready and willing to submit our lives and property to such discipline, because it makes possible a leadership which aims at a larger good. This I propose to offer, pledging that the larger purposes will bind upon us all as a sacred obligation with a unity of duty hitherto evoked only in time of armed strife."
FDR knew he was at war with whom and what he was at war against.
Poet
...yes, yes and yes.
need I say more?
This is a small point but, from now on, let's refer to the venues used by organizations as "the arena" or "the stadium" and drop the advertising logo monikers that various corporations have paid whoring city governments the privilige to plaster all over these places that truly belong to the people of those places.
Thanks to Amy Goodman at Democracy Now for enforcing this discipline on her broadcasts and for Naomi Klein (whose great book: No Logo) first exposed me to the insidiousness of this phenomena.
Poet
Better yet let it be the altar, for as much good has been done here, as has been done in the gutter.
It's also called Mile-High Stadium.
Well... not one approving comment to this essay. The unanimity is impressive.
"I had done all my thinking and decided that small steps forward are much better than a huge step backward. That's why I am doing my bit to get Obama elected, with no illusions."
-lesser-evilism straight-up
"No, I was not at the great event for intellectual enrichment. I was there for the theatrical pleasure of witnessing a live performance by a truly great political orator."
-I think he's over rated, he speaks mostly platitudes devoid of details and how it will be accomplished. He spoke of health care for all - how?
"But I had come for the unconventional, the experience of being swept away by the kind of stirring words we have not heard in this country since MLK was with us."
-comparisons between Obama and MLK are an insult to MLK who sacrificed his life for others. What has Obama sacrificed? Nothing.
"...swing voters mistrust inspiring rhetoric."
-empty platitudes designed to make you feel good. Inspiring would be to reject continual war as a solution instead of let's refocus on Afghanistan as Obama wants.
"Tracing both the form and the content of the Obama campaign back to the counterculture of the sixties points to a lesson for progressive politics."
-Obama counterculture? That's an oxymoron!
I wish Ira Chernus would knock on my door so I could have him sit down and explain to me the following:
1. Why have the Democrats not stopped the war?
2. Why have the Democrats not impeached Bush?
3. Why have the Democrats not closed down Guantanamo?
4. Why have the Democrats allowed Bush to torture prisoners?
5. Why did Obama vote to give immunity to Bush and the Telecoms for illegal spying?
6. Why does Obama want 100,000 more troops?
7. Why doesn't Obama talk about institutionalized racism?
8. Why doesn't Obama talk about reducing military spending?
9. Why doesn't Obama talk about single payer?
10. Why doesn't Obama talk about Katrina?
Obama is just another "Man from Hope" that will give the man everything the man wants just like the best Republican we ever got from the Democrats: Bill Clinton. Obama doesn't represent change of policies he represents a change from a White, male, pro-war, pro-corporate, pro Big Business, status-quo, politician to a Black, male, pro-war, pro-corporate, pro Big Business, status-quo politician.
Obama's job is to salvage the empire from the ruin of the Bush years and then build up the military to ready it for adventures elsewhere. Obama wants to change the focus of war from Iraq to Afghanistan. Now that's some change.
-tailcap
Obama's job? Or Our job?
Just insert people for democracy and Obama in the questions below and let democracy begin because as long as the job of three hundred million is foisted on one, it will never be done.
1. Why have the Democrats not stopped the war?
2. Why have the Democrats not impeached Bush?
3. Why have the Democrats not closed down Guantanamo?
4. Why have the Democrats allowed Bush to torture prisoners?
5. Why did Obama vote to give immunity to Bush and the Telecoms for illegal spying?
6. Why does Obama want 100,000 more troops?
7. Why doesn't Obama talk about institutionalized racism?
8. Why doesn't Obama talk about reducing military spending?
9. Why doesn't Obama talk about single payer?
10. Why doesn't Obama talk about Katrina?
I don't approve of checking one's brain at the door in order to "feel the rapture." Please spare us this.
Warning sign: Adolph Hitler once gave rousing speeches. Got the whole country marching to war.
Feelings of pride, at any speech, should be a warning sign. Is the message in accord with the feeling?
For instance, I didn't see Obama's pledge to attack Afghanistan mentioned in Chernus' essay, although it was part of the speech Obama delivered that night. Was Chernus too blissed out to notice? Anyway, it really didn't matter what Obama would say because Chernus had made up his mind beforehand.
I guess Chernus, a man of the cloth, has already forgotten the public drubbing Obama handed out to his local minister, the Reverend Wright. Wright had the audacity to call a U.S. invading army, and the dropping of bombs, terrorism. Of course, Wright was right.
Meanwhile, Chernus is busy listening to the ghost of Martin Luther King, who would be equally appalled at Obama's war plans, I think.
Why isn't Chernus on the bandwagon for peace? Who would Jesus bomb?
-TIA
DOG LEG: Every sign, a spiritual imprint that accords with the TWELVE disciples of Christ and 12 tribes of Abraham, is a template. There are 9 other planetary variables that support and thwart the central sun sign theme. However, being a Leo (our sign is "ruled" by the sun), much emphasis can be placed on sun signs.
Pluto is a very powerful planet. When it crossed Scorpio we had the "sexual" revolution, and when it progressed through Sagittarius, religion took on stronger dimensions (this phase, coincided with Neptune, the planet of deception making its 14 year transit of Capricorn, definitely fusing church and state once again) and in Capricorn, it will build up government powers until they implode on themselves: a messy, sadistic process as history amply demonstrates.
There are many very high-consciousness Capricorns, Lewis Lapham, Phil Donahue and Ben Franklin come immediately to mind. Yet the 12 signs can be divided by element, and earth is the most materialistic. Capricorn, the last of the 3 earth signs, codifies power based on wealth and privilege. It is the sign of hierarchy, and since India is generally seen as a Capricorn nation (as is Mexico), the CASTE system represents how hierarchy can become a cultural staple.
ALL Capricorn people will deal with Pluto. One form is the Machivellian power question, does the ends justify the means? Some will see their lives radically transformed, that process will be intense from 2010-2015 because of a very intense set of planetary configurations. (Vanity Fair published an analysis on this by Michael Lutin about a year ago.) It's important to watch health at this time, as the forces consistent with Pluto call for breakdown that can lead to rebuilding. Of course one can project that energy and work to rehab people or properties. Every planetary mandate has MULTIPLE expressive forms, and that's where free will comes into play. Fate versus free will? As I see it, it's a cosmic cha cha cha. Heavy these days on the CHA (LOL). Thanks for asking! With so few venues to share this HIGHER understanding, I welcome the opportunity to elaborate on CD.
Souixrose, I really enjoy your posts! Although some of your spiritual insights are a little too "dense" for this format...
In any case, I don't want to rain in on the parade, but according to ancient wisdom, Pluto is not a planet! Neither is Neptune or Uranus (even though their existence was known thousands of years ago!). By "planet" is understood a heavenly body wherein sentient beings reside (consciousness) and whose influence through their motions alters the Cosmos. The problem with modern Astrology is that it's no longer a Sacred Science... the true meaning of planetary motion has been subsumed by the materialistic bent of a physical science that is wholly mechanistic and devoid of life or spirit (a.k.a. "astronomy").
With that said... the 'Yuga' (great Karmic cycles) you refer to in the Vedas and Hindu tradition in general (again a tradition that is only a distant echo of what it was) is Khali Yuga - the height (or depth) of Materialism! By Materialism is meant our spirits being encased in a hardened container of flesh (becoming harder and harder as time passes). However, according to most esoteric teaching, we have come to the end of the traditional Khali Yuga (epoch) and are in a transitional period... to the next Yuga (whose name escapes me at the moment).
So what does all this have to do with politics??? A whole heck of a lot! But, we're impervious to it because we are just a bunch of cold, compressed, hardened spiritual matter! Politics is shallow animal behavior; invented to fill the gap created when instinctive tribal folkspirits guided humanity (as well as great Teachers, or Rishis).
So, in the Great Scheme, where does that leave Obama? We all want to get back to the "Mile-High" don't we? We all want to be swept away... (like in the '60s, the end of Khali Yuga!) This is par for the course in our post-Khali Yuga universe. Yet, with politics one has to wallow in the lower instincts...
My limited intellect and animal instincts tell me unequivocally that Obama is not MLK! (Here I have to agree intellectually with all the points made by - 'Ric Abreu' and others in CD - I may be a bottomfeeder, but I have some scrupples and my bar ain't that low!). Obama is a corporate 'Rorschach inkblot' designed to satisfy everyone's intangible desires while the Beast rolls on in its murdering spree unimpeded. He does not represent "change," but rather "relief" for the powers-that-be... It gives cover to the adolescents who have driven the family wagon into the ditch! Justice demands compensation (if not punishment) for the criminal class that has brought us to the brink. Yet, an Obama "presidency" forcloses any of that, relegating all the crimes committed against humanity to oblivion and forgetfulness... Naturally, even our lower instincts recognize that this is not a "good thing."
Our higher selves should demand nothing less than forgiveness and compassion for Shrub and the NeoCons cabal that has destroyed my (our) country... But, I for one am not enlightened enough to accept that! And invariably, that's where we're all stuck - in our animalistic, lower instincts! Being less than animals when we should be, like you, with our hearts and souls in the stars (oblivious to all the B.S. just perpetrated in Denver!).
Will an Obama presidency mean the "end of the world"? Of course not! The planets and the stars will continue on their course! But, Obama won't mean an improvement either! While it could be argued that a McSame vote will precipitate actual, real change (by forcing more suffering and stressing the Beast further you get a kind of Karmic compensation!).
So, if you believe that we live in a "democracy," play along and "vote" your "conscience." But, keep both eyes open while your doing it! There's no point in deluding ourselves... for when the time comes, we'll have to answer for our moral weakness. And, our moral weakness (our clever triangulations), especially when it comes to politics, is becoming a real vice!
"Our higher selves should demand nothing less than forgiveness and compassion for Shrub and the NeoCons cabal that has destroyed my (our) country... But, I for one am not enlightened enough to accept that! And invariably, that's where we're all stuck - in our animalistic, lower instincts!"
Knowing that one's limits, or realizing the lowliness of one's self is what leads one to the spiritual high you are speaking of, and hoping humanity can collectively obtain.
If you are not aware of this yet, I imagine you will soon be.
siouxrose, glad to see your still hanging around CD. Like many here I'm a minor political junkie. Was a yippy-hippy in the late 60's, had my own "peace" show on cable during Reagan's evil empire years and came roaring back when the corporate bush-man stole the election in 00.
But politics is so much about externalization and one needs a counterbalance. Mine have been: spiritual seeker (traveled to india 15 times), read countless esoteric books, indulged myself in morning meditation (watch and listen to the mind boil until it becomes silent), practiced vegetarianism and picked up a little astrology along the way not because I was insanely interested in it but because some close friends used it as their everyday reference point to life. To communicate with them I needed to pick up a little of their lingo.
So in short I enjoy the occasional dash of the spiritual, astrological, purefoodists, an other miscellaneous esoteric ramblings I taste from the fellow CD bloggers, as it sharpens the palate for the feast that is life.
Siouxrose,
A strong thank you for your time, and thoughtfulness, in replying.
Please take care with that nasty weather, even though I find it's elemental strength life-affirming. I used to climb trees up until my early forties in gale force winds and rain...FFuunnn!(Without lightning conditions.)
"The future will hold less and less of a place for the thoughtful individual who chooses words carefully and articulates them with eloquence and passion."
The future!
It sounds like Ira fell into a time warp around 1960 and popped out in Mile High Stadium.
There's been little enough eloquence or thoughtfulness in American politics for the last 50 years, and if you're looking for third-rate theatrics, it's all over the past, too.
Jacob Freeze
Zinn - Election Madness
The Progressive March 2008 Issue
http://www.truthout.org/article/howard-zinn-election-madness
I'm not taking some ultra-left position that elections are totally insignificant, and that we should refuse to vote to preserve our moral purity. Yes, there are candidates who are somewhat better than others, and at certain times of national crisis (the Thirties, for instance, or right now) where even a slight difference between the two parties may be a matter of life and death.
I'm talking about a sense of proportion that gets lost in the election madness. Would I support one candidate against another? Yes, for two minutes-the amount of time it takes to pull the lever down in the voting booth.
But before and after those two minutes, our time, our energy, should be spent in educating, agitating, organizing our fellow citizens in the workplace, in the neighborhood, in the schools. Our objective should be to build, painstakingly, patiently but energetically, a movement that, when it reaches a certain critical mass, would shake whoever is in the White House, in Congress, into changing national policy on matters of war and social justice.
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Regardless of the outcome we need to build Zinn's movement...
RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION!
Aloha Fusion -
If Ira knocks on enough doors he'll be able to have those conversations from time to time, no doubt. What exactly are you doing to organize and agitate for the "Zinn Movement"? My perspective is simple: for the first time in the history of our benighted republic we have the opportunity to promote healing and racial reconciliation in those two minutes in the voting booth by casting our presidential ballots for a qualified, compassionate, admirable African American candidate. I don't see how anyone who fails to seize those two minutes on that election day for such a noble and historic purpose could live with her/himself.
Excellent comments: NADER VOTER (1:02 PM), www.NOT ONE MORE, AQUIFER & Z.
For those interested as to why the "caring" emphasis of the 60's now seems almost on the "Endangered Species List," there are a few explanations or cause factors that dovetail. One has been the increasing seduction of media to enthrall viewers' senses and provide the false comfort that having certain THINGS will make THE difference in one's quality of life. Materialism has reached its all time high, or should I say, low. This brings me to the 2nd point, that of thematic cycles embedded into time itself. There is a school of mysticism from India that looks at these long time cycles and refers to them as Yugas, and we have been in the most materialistic phase for some time. This earthbound way of viewing causes a loss of greater vision, a vision of what is possible when we no longer allow the limitations of economics to determine potential courses of action.
There is also the astrological factor. The outer planets: Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto have orbits ranging from 12 (Jupiter) to 248 (Pluto) years, and all have been through Capricorn, the sign of Machiavellian ideas and materials ambitions, in the past 30 years. Pluto begins its phase there this October (had a touchdown earlier this year)... and a LONG phase it will be. As I watch profit being extracted from technologies that cater to the control of populations, favor those who are paranoid by nature, I see Pluto's transit of Capricorn preceding itself. This is going to be a very challenging phase for human liberties, nor is astrology any respecter of nations, i.e. their boundaries. The trends of controlling populations and using surveillance are global in nature, the war on "terror" the bogus excuse for turning power ON citizens. Some in this forum who are very wise about the hidden workings of elites and their economic interests can better explains the WHY, what I see is evidence of the "As above, so below" cosmic equation foreshadowing its next Act.
And if the butterfly could see the hard dead mantle of it's awakening, it might sleep forever.
But the butterfly never did eat an apple and it is still fully in the garden of it's spirit, and the mantle forever lost from sight.
You are starting to scare me, Siouxrose. My sister must be your spiritual relative. She has given me readings frequently at one time when we lived closer. She has insisted that my Capricorn birth date of 1.1.47 carries the same indicators you describe.
Your first paragraph I find interesting for a similar pattern I have noticed when reading world history over the years. Especially in the realm of the visual arts and poetry.
However you just increased my workload...I have to research Yugas...:)
Keep posting, will you? I may not agree all the time, and even appear caustic and brittle to some, but I can spot a good heart, even if you are merely a computer...
McCain will kill you. Obama won't.
Unless crowded by circumstances, that is.
Unless you are a civilian living in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Venezuela.
But they don't count, do they?
How a pathetic, piece-of-trash article like this gets even published on CommonFools is proof that this website's over.
Obama represents nothing. He's a right-of center politician who will continue all the Bush policies and expand them. Democratic voters are blind, and so are the editors of this dump.
tetti-tootie:
O.K.
However, you ignore the article's content with a single, maligning statement of vacuous opinion, as if it mattered.
Then, you just continue the trashing of a political candidate and no sustantiation.
The star-studded finality of your feebleness attacks a site that has a fine history with more vitriolic emptiness.
I suggest counseling, a hiatus from political heat, or read the comics.
One really doesn't need comics with articles like this, or posts like yours, does one?
And attacking the messenger is a tool used by those who can't address the message.
To all those who settle for the lesser of the two evil—evil nonetheless:
You are telling us that the lesser evil is really not your personal choice, that the system is pushing it down your throat. So, don’t fall for the good cop bad cop scheme as they both come from the same source. Beat the system by voting for your favorite candidate. That way you won’t get pissed off if the lesser evil turns out to be worse than the greater one.
I've seen nothing that convinces me that Obama is evil. Yes the system he's working in is evil, but we can't say that working in an evil system makes you evil can we. Because we ALL are living (and working) in that same evil system.
Less evil is better than more evil.
Then you haven't been looking very closely or maybe you have been avoiding looking at all. How about his vote for the new FISA bill that gives immunity to the telecoms for spying on the American people which just happens to also be a violation of the 4th amendment to the Constitution?
Lobo Gris
Instead they continue to call the Iraq war a misguided war. It is either RIGHT or WRONG. What part is MIS_GUIDED? In fact, the UN would not even authorize it.
The Democratic Convention should have invited Cindy Sheehan to the Convention. Here was a brave women, and a proud American, who can call a SPADE a SPADE. Maybe she could have helped us better understand what the term MIS_GUIDED WAR means.
Most of the rank and file of the DNC probably believe it was an ILLEGAL WAR. Just look at the cheering for KUCINICH.
Martin Luther King was honest in his description of the Vietnam War.
And sadly, there was no mention of Native Americans. Where do they fall in the American Dream, or the American Promise?
And of course, the dispossessed and disinherited Palestinians get swept under the carpet while the DNC continues to glorify Israel regardless of right or wrong.
And no one ever told us why we should be spending our tax dollars in Georgia? Did they not start a war on their own choosing?
Sadly, the DNC is PLAYING games with words which tends to show that they are speaking with a FORKED_TONGUE. Can we blame Republicans?
I don't know where to even begin criticizing this piece. Obama does not represent even a small step for progress!
- in his open advocacy of escalation in Afghanistan and the so-called "war on terror". His foreign policy platform is well to the right Nixon/Kissinger.
- his refusal to even talk about, even to the point of censoring a congressman who would talk about, making the previous administration answerable for their high crimes.
He only represents a decrease in the speed in our descent. I guess as any pilot of an airplane with loss of power knows, this is better than nothing.
And as far as Prof. Chernusus' embracing the notion that words don't matter anymore, and his fawning praise of modern techno-manipulation of the masses, well, it was regarded as a rather over-the-top hokey movie at the time, but maybe a viewing of "Logan's Run" is on order.
"I already knew the safe, moderate, liberal positions the Democrats were staking out. I knew they are only small steps toward the kind of change this country really needs. I had done all my thinking and decided that small steps forward are much better than a huge step backward. That's why I am doing my bit to get Obama elected, with no illusions."
Except for the illusion that the Democrat's support for the wars, torture, and spying represent "safe, moderate, liberal positions".
Agreed,
Obama's positions look like "progress" only if you have the memory of a person with Alzheimer's disease.
Of course, greatly reduced long-term memory is one of the fully intended consequences of the modern techno-mesmeration of the masses, as illustrated by the spectacles in Beijing and now, Mile-High (now called Invesco Field) stadium. It is the modern version of bread and circuses = with Pepsi-cola replacing the bread, and Microsoft corporation replacing the circuses.
Jeevee
REPEAT: IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CANDIDATES REALLY STAND FOR, LOOK AT THEIR VOTING RECORDS!!!
Jeevee
REPEAT: IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CANDIDATES REALLY STAND FOR, LOOK AT THEIR VOTING RECORDS!!!
I’m new to this one-party, two-winger system, and I’m already tired of it. Aren’t you tired of watching the same show, with different actors, for over two hundred years?
The only real change Obama should bring about is changing the system. But he can’t and he won’t because he’s part of it.
Salia,
Well, it always wasn't quite this bad for 200 years.
Jefferson did have some differences from Adams, Lincoln had differences from Douglas, FDR from Hoover, Adlai Stevenson from Eisenhower, and McGovern from Nixon. The current state of affairs largely dates back to the Dukakais/Reagan election - or maybe Humphrey/Nixon.
Professor, please don't knock on my door either. Obama
- can kill more Afghani civilians
- can continue funding an illegal and immoral war
- can shred our constitution and spy on Americans (e.g. FISA bill)
- can unilaterally support Israel's racist, colonial and imperialist policy.
And the Democratic Party is the Complicit Party, and Team B of corporate America, military-media-industrial-Congress-complex.
I am done with this two party charade. I wish you'd too.
I am voting for anybody but the two parties.
To all of those who believe erroneously that I have drunk the Kool Aid, I issue the following challenge: quit talking and start doing something! There's a reason why Ralph Nader did not reach the 5% vote threshold (and surprise,surprise, I voted for him in 2000) and that is because the USA has a first-past-the-post electoral system. Instead of wasting your time mocking me, it would be better spent doing the real hard work of changing it. But I suspect that kind of hard slog is too daunting when shouting down those whom dare to partially contradict your world view is so much easier.
nadervoter - ridding the world of the Republika Srpska, Radovan Karadzic & ultimately, Slobodan Milosevic (Ratko Mladic is still out there) was not a bad thing at all. In regards to Kosovo, I thought your types were into majority rule (90% of Kosovo is Albanian despite the bleating of the Serbs).
Majority rule should never trump basic human rights.
Tyranny by majority should never be acceptable to a civilized society. Just like if the majority supported slavery, it would still be wrong.
Professor, please don't knock on my door, off of Arapahoe Ave near Naropa. My vote will go to Nader or McKinney, the only two progressive voices in the hunt. Take your status quo, old white guy sensibilities, back to Mile High Stadium and watch the contemporary gladiators smash each other to a pulp. Because that is where your outdated views belong.
Ira Chernus writes: I had done all my thinking and decided that small steps forward are much better than a huge step backward. That's why I am doing my bit to get Obama elected, with no illusions.
But Ira is suffering from illusions, or a lack of clear vision as to what should be the minimum necessary values for a presidential candidate. It is not a step forward. Obama is a blindsided step backwards. Some people are hoping that it won't happen, just like some hope that the tide won't come in.
Not only does McCain fail the smell test, but so does Obama.
As long as Obama supporters continue to think that Obama's limitations are 'practical' (whatever that means), it means that the progressive positions have to be put on hold yet again.
We have to be practical and accept the lesser of two evils from now to infinity (or until the end of the human race (which is coming sooner and sooner with each 'winnable' candidate the country selects).
The democratic party, like any totalitarian party, doesn't want to hear dissent, will break any law or ethics (never mind plain common decency) not to hear it. Shoving dissent to free speech prisons is the new political response among the mainstream political parties.
Honest discussion requires that all sides of the argument are heard. The democratic party is not honest.
Vote Green Party, Vote Third Party. Don't throw away your vote on a corporate candidate.
Mr. Chernus asks, and, I think, answers his own questions in this article.
He seems to bemoan the "Rovian" influences that have taken over the media yet he obviously has capitulated to them:
1) re the Dem. agenda - "I knew they are only small steps toward the kind of change this country really needs. I had done all my thinking and decided that small steps forward are much better than a huge step backward."
2) re Obama's audience - "The pundits and talking heads know, because they are the main audience Obama was addressing. Had he given the kind of stirring speech I came for, their assessment would have been nearly unanimous: All glitter and no substance."
3) re Rove - "So the Republicans, tutored by Karl Rove, have done it again. They have turned their opponent's greatest asset into a liability."
4) re his query - "Why was the synergy of psychedelia and human caring easier to find forty years ago than it is today?"
Number 4 is answered by number 1. Dems have a milquetoast agenda for the simple reason that too many folks are like Mr. Chernus. They have allowed the pundits of the MSM and the Reps to define the allowable limits of the discussion. They yearn for the vision of "the preacher" but do not demand it; in "doing (his) bit to get Obama elected, with no illusions", like so many others, he is allowing the Reps, or the pundits tutored by Rove and funded by all those moneyed interests inimical to the "human caring" he seems to long for, to define what is possible. And perhaps, most pitifully and ironic of all, in "doing (his) bit to help get Barack Obama reach the White House by using the oldest, most traditional political method of all: simply talking, person-to-person", he is demonstrating that, though he still understands, in spite of all his talk about the ascendency of big time media, that politics is still a personal affair, he is willing to expend his own energy on behalf of a candidate who he admits is talking to the pundits and not to us, about "small steps forward", when there are candidates out there who are, unlike Obama, indeed supporting "the kind of change this country really needs".
So, Mr. Chernus, if you really want your "neighbors (to be) willing to get up off their couches and take their eyes off the TV just long enough to answer the door", work for a candidate who is not willing to settle for "small steps", one who has refused to accept his/her "strengths as liabilities" even though the pundits have repeated that story often enough. Give them a candidate with a vision as large as "the preacher's". They are out there.
Mr. Chernus, as long as you settle for less, that is what you will get. You and too many others have allowed your vision to be circumscribed by the pundits. As for me, the visions of folks such as MLK and Thomas Paine are not realized simply by putting a person of a different color in the oval office. You cannot achieve what you cannot conceive, and apparently you cannot conceive of anything other than "small steps". There have ALWAYS been pundits, but thank God there were enough people in the late 1700s who, unlike you, refused to have their vision defined by them.
So, the answer to #4? Because people then, unlike now, would settle for nothing less.
Drink that Kool-Aid, Ira!
So have the soft-hearted Democrats been "fooled again"?
1. Both parties will suck the "blood" out of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc./ Green Energy is a a "feel good" issue.
2 Both the Dems and Repubs agree that Afghanistan is the next beachhead (transfer of troops) for the USA with its sights on controlling oil and exerting power through Kazikstan, other Stans, Georgia, etc. (Iran has been isolated and will probably be disassembled in 10 years). That's #1 reason why Biden is VP.
3 Surely other issues pale in importance... as many parts of the world burn or starve..
Therefore, there is no substantive difference between the 2 USA major parties with respect to the Military Industrial Complex. Go Ralph
Mr. Chernus,
Why don't you read Robert Fisk's piece on CD today? To add to that, how about the censoring of the great ex president Jimmy Carter by Barack Obama at the DNC? That was outrageous! Just another example of the fact that there isn't a dime's worth difference between the two corporate parties. The guy who brought us the job killer, Nafta, Bill Clinton? He got to speak, but he's in thrall to the AIPAC power structure that dominates corporate media, congressional elections and congressial legislation.
All that oppresses us, keeps most of us from becoming what we can be, will remain in place under Obama: the corporatocracy that has Washington in its grip is running his campaign; he fully supports the military industrial complex that dominates this nation and keeps us illegally involved in dozens of countries with a world wide group of 737 military bases; Obama is against single payer and wants to keep under subjugation to immoral HMOs who spend their time routinely denying needed care to millions making them suffer...and on and on...
Barack Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.
James Earl Carter was the only president since Truman who dared to speak the truth. His platform regarding our energy requirements is so amazingly prescient when read today as to be mind numbing.
Here are the words of a real conservative,Colonel Bacevich, in an interview with Bill Moyers. I urge all to spend the 45 minutes or so listening to this absolute shacker of an interview:
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/linkframe.php?linkid=67609
We see things, not as they are, but as we are.
Anais Nin
Thank you, Ira Chemus, for saying you will actively support Barack Obama, even knowing his "change" has practical limits.
The Sarah Palin V.P. thing on the other side has now made your effort and mine (ours) to be needed more than ever.
So it is OK for Obama to go to Afghanistan and kill more people there? Do you regard Afghanis to be humans worth the effort? Or, is that your "practical limit" ---? If there was a principled movement, there is no way that Obama, could get away with his intentions of killing in Afghanistan. But given the kind of liberal "practical limits" - you allow him to get away with this, by not bothering to threaten to vote for another candidate, if he does not change his posture. But that is your practical limit... people around the world understand the meaning of those words very well...
http://almusawwir.org/resistance/
Sorry to offend you and get you worked up, but I do not believe McCain is better for our foreign affairs or that Palin is better for our domestic life.
I'm sorry that you are unable to get worked up, and can calmly support a guy who is going to kill more humans in Afghanistan, with a rabidly anti-Palestinian VP (Biden). Your calmness is revealing...
http://almusawwir.org/resistance/
Okay, so I'm "revealed" somehow or other while actually trying to be transparent. McCain, as well, is not going to be kind the Afghans, or anyone else. Meanwhile, with him you lose the Supreme Court, law enforcement and the agenda of every agency. I just can't be going off somewhere else. Obama is my guy. Lesser of evils. Proud to say so. Degrees of badness matter.
Lesser Evilism is the problem, not the solution.
Oh well.... every country gets the leadership it deserves.
I'll vote for anybody but the two parties.
Superb analysis!
Barack Obama was for single payer before he came out against it.