Yeah, well these guys are writing in a foreign language. Can you?

Yes, good point.

I hope so, Erroll.

But bear in mind that, like those who buy into an "inside politics", aka "realpolitik", sensibility, "inside espionage" thinkers are more likely than not to simply conclude that articles like this are part of the state security agencies' machinations to give Assange cover.

"But let someone expose their madness, and he is called a terrorist!"
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i guess the most terrifying of all would be to meet face to face their own xenophobic terror. that would shatter the egos's thin shell of macho bravado, wouldn't it? so, they'd rather kick sand, throw a tantrum and call reason cowardice.

Who really hates "America"?

I believe the people in foreign countries exploited by power, have long said they do not hate the American people, they have said, they hate the American leadership. Now it seems, more and more American people are also beginning to mistrust their leaders, and have disdain for them.

As for many of our leaders, it is not a question of hate or love, it is plain indifference.

This isn't surprising, but it's good to have the confirmation.

Ah, so you admit that America is intimately involved with governments that repress the rights of women, of religious minorities, of LGBTs? That America is a nation of torturers? Good to know.

So, you post a "nothing to see here, move along" comment yet again. Why, I wonder, do you not accept Assange and Wikileaks as a part of the growing ( hopefully) movement to stop US imperialism?

Sorry, but the old methane explosions that gave Obama a Nobel Peace Prize just for not being George W. Bush (although, as it turns out, in terms of world peace he might as well be) aren't about to give a prize to Assange.

so the game is on to convince the public that the genie is drunk.

I'm sure that right now in Washington a committee is drawing up plans for the immediate evacuation of all possible agents.

It is possible to know that someone is "not a naïve man" and is "a sophisticated politician," and still understand that he is a son of a bitch.

Assange has not been able to stop the illegal settlements. Neither have you, nor I, nor anybody. Does that make us all Mossad or dupes of it?

But the further confirmation that many Arab officials have CIA connections, and hence might be slightly less anti-occupation, will help Arab patriots to reconquer their governments. In the long run. Things don't happen immediately. But I suspect that neither you nor I have done as much for the Arab World.

Ecoeng doesn't understand the meaning of what he writes, then makes assumptions based on his guesses.
It's probably more conceivable that Eco is an ill-informed western-conditioned capitalist, a Zionist or a CIA agent than Assange is an opportunist.
JJR

Dear Econeg:

Maybe I have read too many spy novels, but just the same, I don't necessairly read the words about Netanyahu the way you do.

I "heard" that he was "not a naive man" but it meant to me that there was a subtext that wasn't very warm and endearing at all.

Not being naive could mean that just because things are undercover now, they don't have to be, and that Mr, Netanyahu would not be naive enough to believe that. I thinkj I heard a "don't mess with me" message. Of course, it could be my "guess" too and like you, I could be wrong.

I read the lame articles you are referencing here. Indirectly, but nevertheless....

Glenn Beck has said some similar things. George Soros was thrown in as well.

The extent to which some people will twist any facts or assertions or hearsay available to them to find a Jewish Conspiracy behind everything is nothing short of astonishing.

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"Since we are being treated to the likes of the "Military Bowl" and the "Armed Forces Bowl...""

Please, it is the Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumman and the Bell Helicopters Armed Forces Bowl. The "defence" corporations deserve as much notice as say, Chick Fil A.

So we are just supposed to buy into whatever conspiracy theory is set before us? Sorry. The burden of proof is on you to prove that he is a mossad agent.

I would hardly call cozying up to the New York Times, the Washington Post, Time Magazine, and the mainstream news media "opposing the great satan." I'm having a hard time finding any of the Wikileaks "revelations" anything more than a red herring. These latest revelations only confirm this feeling.

Here's Gordon Duff on Assange, from Veterans Today:

"Julian Assange, for some unknown reason, placed full authority for what the public could and couldn’t be trusted with in the hands of the New York Times. Wasn’t Wikileaks set up to attack the press in the first place? Wasn’t it Wikileaks that was telling us, from day one, that the governments were controlling the press, censoring the news and supporting wars?

The whole purpose of Wikileaks was to eliminate and bypass the cabal of corrupt government and controlled press, to empower citizens with real information that was withheld. Instead, Wikileaks became just another government controlled newspaper, and Julian Assange got his daily press conferences, his staged photo shoots and his endless fame, all while covering his complicity in censorship and his relationships with the world’s most powerful and often reviled forces, all advocates of war.

With all the hoopla about opposing war, the majority of Wikileaks documents, certainly the most “pointed” and “seeded” of them, as Brzezinski tells us, are all in support of the wars Julian Assange said he opposed. Other than minor reports outlining the idiocy of the people who wrote the reports, cables or whatever we want to call them, other than proving American diplomats and intelligence officers are typically dupes and clowns, something a decade of war and lies has proven to the world long ago, what, exactly, has Wikileaks done?"