If Columbus is the beginning of the story, and, say, Lincoln is the middle, what is the end? Each episode of the American narrative surfaced a problem, which prompted attempts to resolve it, which led in turn to a new problem. This movement from problem to resolution to new problem and ever new efforts to fix things is what makes the American story great.
So Columbus arrived in 1492, but carried the European virus of ideological absolutism - what led Queen Isabella to expel Jews from Spain that same year. Such absolutism sparked Old World religious wars, and Puritan dissenters defied it by coming to America. But they brought their own version of that absolutism. John Winthrop's City on a Hill was a religiously gated community (no "pagans" or Quakers), with the magistrate empowered to coerce conformity. Therefore Roger Williams proposed the separation of church and state. By Jefferson's time, though, that distinction justified the separation of private morality from public ethics. Private morality meant he and others could keep the private property called slaves.
Abraham Lincoln presided at the altar on which the bloody sacrifice of civil war was justified by "freedom," but no sooner had redemptive violence (". . .as He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free") saved the nation's soul than it spawned the Indian genocide, and the Jim Crow betrayal of blacks. In the name of freedom, the United States conquered a continent, and claimed a hemisphere - a destiny whose virtue was manifest against corrupt European imperialism. In the American Century, the nation born in rejection of ideological absolutism called itself capital of "the free world," but redemptive violence went nuclear, and defense of that freedom required absolute readiness to destroy the world. The chill of Cold War "realism" froze the American conscience.
An unexpected thaw (warming Gorbachev and Reagan) ended the Cold War bloodlessly, and America had a chance to redefine national redemption, removing violence from its center. That brings us to today. If this nation followed the pattern of its own historic reckoning with the ever unfinished work of public morality, political discourse would be defined by the dual-project of eliminating nuclear weapons and building international structures of peace. Instead, we are paralyzed by a war that no one wants, unable to change what matters most.
Last week, this story reached a climax of sorts, with developments like these:
War Cost. With new budget requests, the Iraq war price tag jumped over the $600 billion mark - enough, extrapolating from figures of the National Priorities Project, to add 9 million teachers to public schools for a year. Where would American education be if that happened instead? And where Iraq?
Mercenaries. We learned that the United States government has surrendered to "private contractor" hit squads the primal function of protecting its own diplomats in Iraq. Such unaccountable and profit-driven forces betray the foundational American military ethic. Hessians at last.
Abolition. Barack Obama made a major speech calling for a return to the long-abandoned goal of nuclear elimination. "We need to change our nuclear policy and our posture, which is still focused on deterring the Soviet Union - a country that doesn't exist." The major news media ignored this important declaration, obsessing instead with horse-race polls and fund-raising totals. Nuclear reform (antidote to proliferation and terrorism both) is not a campaign issue.
Torture. The Bush administration was revealed to have again secretly approved "enhanced" interrogation methods at restored CIA "black sites," where prisoners are once more held without treaty protections - measures that Congress and the Supreme Court have already rejected. Despite scandals, US torture continues.
These developments would be disturbing enough, but what they point to is an interruption in this nation's most important public tradition - the movement from recognition of a problem to its attempted resolution. From ill treatment of native peoples, to enslavement of Africans, to temptations to empire, to a religious embrace of violence, to Red Scare paranoia, to an insane arms race - we Americans have had our failings. But we have faced them. The capacity for self-criticism and change has defined our history. But that is not happening today. We are in an arms race with ourselves, and will not stop. Our unjust war is just unending. Our politics and media, meanwhile, form a feedback loop of banality. "Freedom" has become our prison.
Does all of this reveal a deeper flaw in our moral narrative itself? After all, we say today that our story began with Columbus. But what about the ones who welcomed him?
James Carroll's column appears regularly in the Globe.
© Copyright 2007 Globe Newspaper Company
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Show AllRalph Nader: "Things Are a Lot Worse than We Thought!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIO-tCPSfHA
Just practicing freedom of speech. Yall remember that thing right?
In the name of God, the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
; )
Salaam
GODDAMMIT!!!
finally; someone getting to the root of the matter. when and until u.s. citizens recognize the roots of their addiction to violence and racism can we as a people begin to see ourselves as equal to other nations; and not 'god's chosen country.'
Mr. Duncan October 9th, 2007 6:55 pm:
ditto
When I read "In the name of God the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving" I stop reading, whatever you were talking about. So, I recommend that in a discussion forum, you leave that part out, because you're reducing your audience.
littlem,
Salaam. The Most Merciful is also known as Al-Wadud (الودود), as I'm sure you're aware. Please don't take offense at this, my friend...but perhaps your faith is being worn a bit heavily on your sleeve? We teach best through example, not sermons.
In the name of God the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
Well I don't believe God is love. That in fact is quite a Christian belief. I believe God loves our good, just, moral acts. I also believe He is all-just.
Because God is All Merciful and forgiving as well, so long as a person TRIES (we are after all made to make mistakes) to do good and believes in the Being that created them, God will forgive if one sincerely asks for it and tries to ammend their ways. That is a key thing a lot of "religious" people do not do: they say they believe in God, but they do no good, and they do not truly try to ammend their behavior when they do wrong. That, in my opinion, is not godly.
And those kind of people are of punishable quality. But, I know for sure that I am NOT God, and therefore don't plan on judging anyone (in that belief/hereafter sense ). That's God's court not mine. I'm just trying to be a moral, just person.
But I have no problem judging worldy/material actions of people becuase I think it's not only legitimate, but responsible to point out corrupt/destructive behaviors of people and try to stop it from spreading.
I too completely believe we (huamn beings) are a part of one large organism as you put it: I believe it is the same soul we all stemmed from. And, then on a macro level I believe that we (every thing in creation from the teeniest sub-atomic particle, to the universe) are all a part of one another--as fellow creations of God. Harmony.
salaam
littlem85 - I so agree that "Every human soul has within them a deep sense of justice and morality: we recognize those things when we see them."
What I don't agree with is that there is a god who gave us rational thought for a reason. That is a matter of faith. Of course, I have thought about eternity and the impact that this life might have on an afterlife! But that is not the driving force for me. It makes no difference to me whether or not there is an afterlife. I live the way I do, with as much honesty, integrity, and care for other living things and the planet as I possible can (with at least a little wiggle room for being a fallible human being) because of the forementioned sense of morality and justice. And, as I have said in previous posts in response to this thread as well as others, it's pragmatic. Doing good pays off much better than doing evil in my experience. Bad people might be powerful or wealthy, but they are not really happy. (Thoreau or one of the other American philosophers wrote an essay about that which I read once and cannot find.)
It's my sincere feeling that all people choose their beliefs for personal reasons. A belief that I have chosen is that we are all part of one large organism, whether it's energy or some other unknown force or some physical thing. If this is true, then it behooves us to behave well. One thing I absolutely do not buy into is the notion that a person will be punished for eternity because of his or her beliefs. That seems to me to be the ultimate in absurdity, especially for anyone who believes that god is love.
Love is not selfish, love is not jealous, love does not require adoration, love is not demanding. Love, on the other hand is kind, love is forgiving, love is understanding. If god is love, god does not require blind belief or a certain standard of behavior to prevent eternity in hell or some other horrible punishment. That is most certainly NOT love.
In the name of God, the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
Sorry LeeAnnG, I didn't see your post before.
Whether we like it or not, we are all accountable to something: we act as if we are accountable to something or other, whether it's God, or our whims or money or a personal moral standard: we hold ourselves accountable.
And if you read my comments correctly, I am by no means saying that anyone who claims to believe in God is automatically good. All those people you mentioned are not my idea of true believers: they may say they believe in God, but they follow none of the commandments, and --just like with wealth or politics -- they use there religion to further their own selfish, destructive ways of life. And, in fact, the one thing all those guys have in common is they have NO sense of accountability whatsoever. Me thinks that is quite a problem ; )
Read my above comment. Every human soul has within them a deep sense of justice and morality: we recognize those things when we see them.
So I am in agreement with you in those regards totally.
But can I make a suggestion: God gave us rational thought for a reason. He placed us on Earth for a reason. We all need to look around ourselves, at other creations, within ourselves. Really study and contemplate the patterns of life, of nature, of history. Those patterns and cycles have deep implications about the nature of our own existences and futures and realities. Then, we need to come to conclusions about the personal stances we take in life, and our trajectory (which for me extends into an eternity), where do we want to end up in this life? And, because I believe what we do in this life has huge, direct impacts of the life hereafter, what would we want to have in that final, eternal life? I mean, even if you don't believe it, just imagine. (I do the same thing for the opposite by the way all the time). This really expands one's thinking, opens one's perspectives.
John Freeman, I agree, it's a constant struggle! Especially because I am so opinionated. My dad calls me Rebel Without A Pause : )
salaam
I want to begin by wishing Mr. John Lennon a
very happy birthday, as he is my own "working
class hero."
So in the spirit of October 9th I wonder what
would John have us do in these dangerous days?
Well one concrete thing we can do is to wear orange on Fridays, so the numbers against this war will make a visible impact.
Maybe the rest of October could be go by without another penny spent for anything except
food and true necessities.
Personally I'm not sure I'll ever vote again,
those in congress who voted against the "betray us" ad opened my eyes that the 3 million moveon members meant nothing to the dems or reps. - so just who do they represent?
Certainly not the people who elected them, they
only care for those with the scheckles.
littlem85 - in case you didn't see my post above, I'll reiterate. Not everyone needs to be accountable to some higher power in order to be moral. I have no fear of future retribution by any god, but I live the best I can in harmony with other people as well as nature. Many, many of my friends are agnostics or atheists who do not believe in punishment after death. These people do not go around hurting others, lying, cheating, or damaging the planet. In fact, the worst offenders of morality I know are True Believers. Did being a so-called Christian stop Columbus, Bush, Falwell, or anyone you can think of from being a destructive force in the world? I don't think so.
Arrrgh! The old 'Open Mind and Heart' trick! -grin- Truly, for me that is the most difficult part of living.
Veteran '66-68
In the name of God, the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
fpal,
I can see how my statements sound like that. I did not mean them like that and do not believe those conclusions to be true (I did try to clarify myself when I talked of certain kinds of religious belief as well as the notion that, in the end, not I nor anyone, can judge the state of believe of another human soul. In fact the Prophet Muhammad, peace on him, once said, "I was not sent to open the chests of people or look into their hearts.").
I believe every human soul is endowed with a sense of morality and justice (I think the big thing the two of us disagree with is the source. My contention is that God endowed each soul with an innate/inner sense of morality and justice).
I also think that if human beings are not held accountable, what's going to stop us from becoming selfish blood machines as we see going on now?
Peace and (if you don't mind) God bless
I promise to keep an open mind and heart. Can you promise too?
restive pulls up a chair...
::If we keep ignoring the Soviet, jesus, some lucky day it might dissolve into the nothingness it has always been.::
heh, there's an irony - was there ever a Soviet past 1917?
as for ignoring the rising american gulag: don't stop there - ignoring the Soviet works well, but it's also imperative to create a just, compassionate world in the shell of this collapsing empire, while struggling with its machinations when it seeks to destroy us. perhaps "active ignoring" is what many of us are searching for, and all it takes for it to become viable is for us to start creating it. wait...we're already doing that. *winks*
fpal - Of course you can have a moral atheist! My father was an atheist, and he was the most moral person I know. My husband is probably considers himself to be an atheist, but he seems more of an agnostic to me, and he also is one of the most moral individuals I've encountered. He is generous, kind, loving, and gentle. He treats people as he would like to be treated. I am an agnostic, and I don't rely on the punishment of some unknowable god to keep me in line.
It seems to me that it's even more moral to live with integrity if you are not afraid of consequences than if you do what is "right" out of fear of punishment or hope of reward. My father used to say that morality is pragmatic - that in the long run it works much better than behaving badly. I believe that is quite true, but of course, it's not the whole answer. Many people simply have a moral code that comes from deliberation, philosophical introspection, and a sense of justice.
I also believe that we are all part of the same system of energy - if you hurt someone else, you hurt yourself. The most difficult of Jesus' lessons was to love your enemy, but it's also one of the most important. Somehow, many modern Christians seem to bypass that one. As a human being, I fail at my attempts to follow this guideline, but I keep trying. In the past, I have found that it really does work. One does not have to believe in damnation or eternal paradise to live a moral life. That's a cop-out.
restive pulls up a chair...
>If we keep ignoring the Soviet, jesus, some lucky day it might dissolve into the nothingness it has always been.
The end of the story will be greed-like every other civilization.
Look how desperately the country tries to hold on to dissent with their bogus christain agenda.
We are already debasing the currency like the roman empire.
I guess the have nots will be shipped to mexico in a cargo train.
Gosh, it can be annoying to read opinions by those who feel superior to those who came before them because of knowledge acquired in large part because of all the blood, sweat, and tears of their predecessors.
Of course those with access to modern universities and libraries, with limitless journals of scientific and other research, and to the Internet should develop a greater understanding, a more developed consciousness, than those of prior centuries just as those with access to printed books developed much greater understanding than their illiterate predecessors.
Too many get stuck in idolizing the so-called "Founding Fathers" or the Enlightenment philosophers and idealizing the concepts expressed in the Age of Enlightenment and then trying to hold all of their predecessors to these ideals, probably inspired in this effort by the obvious departure of the Bush administration from any serious pretense of maintaining such ideals. However, the ideas expressed by the founders and philosophers were open to interpretation and were inevitably interpreted by individuals to suit their own purposes, and also note that many of the more enlightened ideas and quotes are cherry-picked from a mixed record.
Ideas concerning justice and human rights, and that old abused term "freedom," are not timeless or universal but constantly evolve with improved understanding and changing circumstances. In the history of human development, humans have created larger and larger groups and now are forming an interconnected world-wide species-wide group (to which the concepts of rights and justice apply, based on assumptions of universal benefits), and at the same time new realities regarding diminishing resources and environmental degradation are developing, and new ideas and understandings must be forged regarding appropriate rules to follow in this environment. Certainly the past can be examined for some guidance, but hand-wringing over the shortcomings, according to modern sensibilities, of actors in the past offers little value.
littlem85,
You seem to be a thoughtful and moral person. I could explain a different perceptive to many of your points but will not do that in this forum.
I will point out that your point #6 & #5, where you say "If you do not believe in God...how can a person feel accountability and act responsibly if they will have no consequences?" in the context of "they will be judged by God, and then will have an eternity of punishment or reward..." is the basis for Columbus's ideological absolutism. Thus, European justification for the genocide of the North American indigenous people, a justification to enslave Africans, and taking it a bit further, justification for human and legal rights for American citizens only.
littlem85, is it possible to have a moral atheist? Can North American indigenous people's beliefs be different but be as moral as the Quran? Is the right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness only valid within a religious system or political system? Life is great and mysterious. There's more to life than we know, keep an open mind.
"An unexpected thaw (warming Gorbachev and Reagan) ended the Cold War bloodlessly,"
Nothing could be further from the truth. While our armies never engaged in fighting one another on a battlefield that the public is aware of (they did in secret proxy wars), millions of people around the world died during the Cold War fighting for the US and USSR. Remember Korea (US supported and fought with the South, China and USSR supported and fought with the North), Iran, Vietnam, Chile, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, the list goes on and on of the conflicts we fought proxy style with the Soviet Union. Millions (perhaps tens of millions) of people died in those conflicts. I really wish people in this country would have a little more compassion for all of the rest of the Human race outside of this country. Many Americans seem to be disconnected from the rest of the world; what happens in other countries doesn't affect us but it does. Our governments policies over the last six decades has created the world we now live in where American's don't feel safe leaving their own country.
Henry David Thoreau: "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."
Some say the fault lies with the Republicans, others say it lies with the Democrats. That is the extent to which we stand like deer frozen to the bright light shinning into their eyes.
"We the people" "with government of the people, by the people and for the people" have got to come up with something better than that.
Thoreau's tree can sprout branches faster than the thousands can hack them off, all the while the root cause remains intact.
What is the cause?
For lots of information concerning the invasion of the Americas by Columbus, read Howard Zinn's alternate histories of America. It's painful, but very powerful.
As to the discussion of god above, the notion that the world is so complex it had to be created by a higher power leaves out the question of what created that higher power. If the universe and all of what we perceive with our senses must have a creator, then it follows that god is also so complex and amazing he, she or it must also have a creator.
It's absurd to assume that we can KNOW what we only can believe or to think that what we believe is the ultimate test of who we are or the fate we deserve after we die. I prefer to let the mystery be and try to live my life with as much integrity as possible. If this is all there is, I want to make the best of it. If there is an afterlife, any creator or god that makes any sense at all does not care what I believe and will only judge me as to how I behave.
Henry David Thoreau: "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."
Some say the fault lies with the Republicans, others say it lies with the Democrats. That is the extent to which we stand like deer frozen to the bright light shinning into their eyes.
"We the people" "with government of the people, by the people and for the people" have got to come up with something better than that.
Atexan October 9th, 2007 7:58 am
"Why your GOD created such misery and injustice and suffering in the world?"
God doesn't create misery and injustice, man does. God gave man free will. If God didn't allow misery and injustice, if he stopped man from creating it then it wouldn't really be free will then would it.
Lobo Gris
To littlem85,
Why are you trying to inject GOD and religion into a rational discussion.
We do not care what you CLAIM GOD is saying. There are tens of relligions
in this world. Everyone is claiming to speak the word of GOD. Who is
right? The answer is none of them. They are all wrong.
Why your GOD created such misery and injustice and suffering in the world?
" From ill treatment of native peoples, to enslavement of Africans, to temptations to empire, to a religious embrace of violence, to Red Scare paranoia, to an insane arms race - we Americans have had our failings. But we have faced them. The capacity for self-criticism and change has defined our history. But that is not happening today".
The narrative is, TRUTH,JUSTICE,and AMERICAN WAY!It always been that way and continues to be.
This arrogance, as cost us dearly in world opinion. Perhaps more then anything else..
Because it is the idea of U.S. exceptionalism, that is at the root of it
all.
Wakeup America, and be part of the world, not astride of it.
simonhhh,
concerning Afghanistan, shouldn't the numbers be included for sustaining the guerilla war against the communist regime? Without our support, only the Soviets would be responsible. But, according to Brzinski, he wanted them to have a Vietnam, just to see what it felt like.
An unjust and a criminal war will bring about peace and liberty to the heathens in Mesopotamia and elsewhere because we the good guys and God is always on the side of the rich and powerful.
Excellent discussion. Often, the commentaries here are as good or better than the OP!
Sometimes I have to remind myself not to fall for the bleakest speculations. "The coming war..."? "Grow your own garden... economic collapse..."? Question: Is it true?
We'll see. But I won't go quietly into that dark night. And if the worst comes about, at least I've openly thanked you all.
Screw that get all your neighbors together and march! Assemble demonstrate your rage and discontent with the filthy, thieven'. lyin', low down varmit gutter snipes. Drive them from office.
"In the name of freedom, the United States conquered a continent, and claimed a hemisphere"
what nauseating drivel, and then it became a real bastard nation eh?
more likely on learning the reality the people became even more like sheep. The boot appears to be on most peoples neck alright. Some feel it only lightly, others not at all, and on others it has hobnails and drives them mercilessly down. This is not the way it always was. This is not the way it needs to be or must become, there is a better way. Go watch a Christmas Carol.
littlem85:
be kool
i am into the chance thing
have a look
might make sense..
ken
fresh1, thanks for your thoughts. They were very well put.
I have mixed feelings about the way Israel came barging in and took that land. It was their's originally but they had to take it from so many that already lived there. They had just been through an unimaginable horror in Germany. They had been through 2000 years of persecution before that.
Let's face it, most of the Middle East has always hated the Jews. They were Nazi sympathizers in Hitler's time.
But, they did take that land at the expense of many who were already living there, even if they were Hitler-loving people.
I hate the way Israel lobbies in America's legislatures. But, I hate the way Europe lobbies in America's legislatures, just as much.
Personally, I think we should just get the hell out of there and leave it alone at this point.
gde,
The Dawes Act of 1887 was the worst.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Thomas Pynchon
Daniel Shays, I agree that namvet67 was off when he said "it's pretty clear today that the Muslims of the world are the Native Americans of America's birth."
You stated very eloquently that "the situation with the American Indians was pretty simple. We wanted their land and we took it."
But this *is* the story of "Israel", i.e,. the Palestinians *are* analogous to the Native Americans of America's birth, the people massively dispossessed of their land. Zionists wanted the land of the Palestinians, and they gained it by the violent dispossession of some 700,000 Palestinians. This dispossession-- what the Palestinians call "the catastrophe" and the Israelis call their "war of independence" (an Orwellian turn of phrase)-- is the key issue, almost never discussed in the MSM, around which the whole Israeli-Palestinian conflict revolves. The refugees and their descendants claim their right under international law to return. This "right of return" is refused by Zionists, on the grounds that to allow rightful but non-Jewish inhabitants to return would "threaten the existence of Israel", i.e., the Jewish majority. Thus Israel's claim of a "right to exist" is actually a claim of a "right to dispossess", the same claim of manifest destiny that American imperialists made in the 19th century to dispossess the native Americans.
Now, I do not mean to suggest that Iranians have the Palestinians best interests at heart. They do not, nor did Hussein, nor does bin Laden. But we cannot understand the coming world war, the great 21st century crusade against Islam, without understanding the *ongoing* role of a kind of imperialist dispossession that we hoped had died out in the 19th century, and which lives on today in Israel.
workreno's quote from Columbus' log is only the beginning of an appalling first-person account of his expedition's truly savage actions on arrivial on Hispanola and the incredibly brutal, inhuman attitudes and motives behind them.
This was related to the religion-fueled jihadism known as the Inquisition, but was far more about business and only tangentially about religion. But the important point in terms of looking at the actuality behind the myth is that Europe's first significant and sustained contact with the Americas was an unadulterated orgy of greed, brutality and destructive exploitation that in short order wiped out an entire population and their peaceful, civilized culture.
This was considered success by the explorers and their sponsors, and was scaled up, leading to the Spanish conquest of virtually all peoples and cultures of the carribean basin and beyond.
We in the US have allowed the return in the last few years to equally obscene behavior toward those our government has labelled heathen savages, driven by our modern equivalent of the Inquisition. It is known as the Global War on Terrorism. Kind of shoots the Progress Theory all to hell.
Yo, Rebel Farmer:
Glad to see you about. Don't get too close to the fire, we're gonna need you. Also, the big meltdown may end up being rather gradual...lotta momentum out there.
The big news, and I hope you'll check me on this, is how many new faces and ideas are whipping around here lately. CD deserves a lot of credit, but it's also due to the fact that there are more of "us" than maybe we realize, and folks have got their antennas up searching for some coherence and new thinking.
I can tell you for sure that all the Repubs I come in contact with are one heck of a lot more tentative and uncertain than they were four years ago.
Ain't nobody happy about what's going on.
Finally, I'm picking up on an uptick in interest and acceptance of the Green party. I saw a lot of very specific, action-oriented and concise discussion here on CD these last few days...really constructive, concise, useful stuff.
We're all getting a little crazy with the paranoia and the long-grinding revulsion of Bush and his nutty club. If we can just keep our heads for about five more months, I think we're over the bump.
Hang in all. Cool heads are best in a pinch.
Beany, say what?
okie dokie
@Ryszard
I am Ryszard too. April 1945 is an important date for me too. I also work with Native Americans.
I get so frustrated with this talk of "we." We (the majority of people signed on to this website), have no connection to the criminals in office. No connection to Columbus, none to Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, Jefferson Davis, the Puritans of old Boston, what have you. We are not responsible for 300 million people, all being born and raised LOCALLY.
It is time to do the "American" thing.
Become Indigenous. Contrary to the whimsical fancy of political correctness, 95% of the people within the U.S. boundary are Native American. Not Sioux, of course, or Seneca, Arapaho, but certainly new Chicago, Albany, San Bernadino, or any made up names which "we" might prefer. This is my nation, one of several thousand set up across this broad land. I am not the inevitable end of a line of mass murder, rape, bigotry, prejudice, fear, and shopping malls. We have no national identity that is separate from corporate identity. We are using the esablishment's take on our common history, and setting up all talking points from that national falsehood. That is, as a prototype American, am I responsible for the military jingo next door as well as the violent yahoo a thousand miles away, just because we both have an opinion of the Civil War and have shopped in a Walmart?
Columbus Day?
I know my family and friends ignore it.
I bet it's the same everywhere.
Even in Alaska and Hawaii.
If we keep ignoring the Soviet, jesus, some lucky day it might dissolve into the nothingness it has always been.
Now to get rid of the 35,000 nuclear warheads that "we" have accumulated.
falazmah wrote:
a Spaniard who was eventually responsible for the deaths of millions of Indians.
Or was Cristobal Colombo an Italian Jew (converso), for all that matters...just to take this dicussion far off topic and stimulate a few anti-Semites. Actually he was just a cruel, stupid bastard, typical of many of those who are at the helm and are the driving forces of our (Western, European, American) "civilization". To this day.
In the name of God, the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
Fpal, If we use the rational thought that God has given us, and we look around at our situation as human beings today we must come to certain conclusions.
1. We were not created by chance. If you spend 5 minutes studying physics or astronomy NOTHING is chance, and everything comes about only with precision that we, humans, can barely even comprehend. So, I think it is safe to presume we were created by a Being that is in control of us/ creation in general.
2. If we were created by a Being, then we certainly we not created to relax and have fun: Look around you, life is hard, it's difficult, it's a lot of grief and trials. This life is clearly NOT heaven, it is a place of tests.
3. So, what are we being tested with? Just look at the present issues we are dealing with, are we going to stand up and uphold the truth, justice, and try to end the madness of killing and genocide? I loved what you said in your previous comment and totally agree with you. But why do you care? Do you feel accountable, an inner need to say it like it is or a conscious objection to the wrongs being perpetrated?
4. I think your answer is yes, from what you said in your previous comment. So if we are being tested and we are filled with this compulsion to uphold what is just and right and true…and we feel we will be held accountable (indeed, we want those monsters reeking havoc all over the globe to be accountable, so we better be prepared ourselves for accountability)…then it pushes one to think about their existence.
5. That should lead, logically, a person to know that God, who created us, is going to be the One holding us accountable. We are on this earth for a short time (90 years max) and then we die. People who feel no sense of accountability and feel that God died for their sins commit atrocities like we see now because they are arrogant and think they have salvation. That is NOT how it works. There is no such thing as having salvation. That belief goes against logic and life as we see it. Each individual is responsible for their actions, they will be judged by God, and then will have an eternity of punishment or reward. No one has the right to say they will be "saved" or whatever, because that's not how it works. If you strive to do "good" (broad, subjective term, I know) and by that I mean trying to be a just person, and strive toward that end, that is what counts.
6. If you do not believe in God you are committing the biggest act of injustice by not recognizing the reality of your existence. And, like I said before, how can a person feel accountability and act responsibly if they will have no consequences?
7. If all I said above is true (and obviously I believe it ; ) than wouldn't it be especially harsh if God did not give us any guidelines to live by? I believe He did and that he preserved His guideline in a book called the Quran and delivered to the last messenger to humanity, the Prophet Muhammad, peace on him. Islam, contrary to common perception is NOT an organized religion at all. It's a personal, individual choice, between the person and God and no one has a right to bud in. Its creed is quite simple: Believe in God as One, his prophets (NOT divine), Judgment Day and Heaven and Hell. You do that by being a just person and striving to uphold it and work to make this short time on life a wholesome place for us and people to come.
Hope that answers your question…Sorry I know it's long…I tend to be long-winded ; )
Rebel Farmer..
Yeah I've been trying to stock up, but not on dog food; but on sanity. It seems the current war madness has more twists and turns to yet unfold...good to see you back on deck!
Stilba,
The discovery of America by Columbus, with all it's fabled heroic trappings, is a major factor of the American psyche. To analyze and expose the myth for what it is, is to help understand the current "course of empire", that still dominates US policy.
If a garden is contaminated with noxious weeds, it helps to know the source of the original seeds.
First, we are not sure that Columbus even discovered America. There is evidence that others before him have made it across the Atlantic before, but didn't get the credit. Second, there are much more important figures that we should honor, instead of a Spaniard who was eventually responsible for the deaths of millions of Indians.
Do you think we should be celebrating Columbus? http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=661
Excuses, excuses, excuses! For 45 years, I have worked with the Soviets and Russians! It was obvious to me as early as 1960 that they were not the enemies of the United States. As for our "celebrations" of such idiocy as "Columbus Day," it has only to do with the same political lies, deceipt, and carpetbagging for which the US has been indicted since the beginning.
I was raised (since April of 1945) near the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota. It was obvious then that extermination (it was then called "assimilation") of Native populations was the direct, expressed policy of the US government.
And today, thanks to freaks, demons, and the rest of the Bushits/neocons/politicians of both blue and red, all the experience gained since 1945 is scorned, mocked, derided, and wasted! Bah! The US doesn't stand for anything decent any more!
Stilba: You are totally out of line. This article discusses American history and what we can learn from it. Basically this country was "discovered" by a genocidal maniac, and was followed by Europeans that practiced genocide agains the first nation populations here. And now Americans are practicing genocide on Muslims by invading sovereign nations. I think there is something to learn from all this. And most of the posters here seem to agree. So go take your trival comments about genecide that you seem to equate with your stupid day off and stuff it somewhere we don't have to see.
Hi Simon! I had to take a break from posting because I get so depressed about everything sometimes. It's getting so damn scary, it's hard to breath. But I'm OK now. Pretty much resigned to what looks inevitable at this point. Stocking up on dog food and other essentials.
Peace
Columbus Day equals celebration of genocide? Nonsense. It equals Day Off if you happen to get it off. Otherwise, it equals little more than a scribble in the box on your calendar.
A great deal of the above discussion is way out of proportion. Columbus was 500 years ago. We may as well argue about the atrocities of Alexander of Macedon. It's anachronistic that the October Day Off for working Yanks is named after some old conqueror from another age, and I'd certainly vote to change it to Halloween, but getting upset over it is strange in light of the more pressing matters all around us.
milesofmusic:
I wholly appreciate your tying together the essential understandings required of any real political awakening in the US: the installation of the unaccountable Federal Reserve Board and their printing currency charged with immediate interest to the American public in 1913; the devaluation of US currency, the flight of wealth outside the US, and purposeful destruction of the US economy in order to soften us up for accepting the Amero currency to be shared with Canada and Mexico; BushCo., Rev. Moon and other neo cons purchasing their 100,000 acre plus getaways in the fascist-haven of Paraguay; the economic narrative that explains more of American history than any self serving nationalisitic story of the "triumph" of morality; and the need for people to unplug themselves from FOX "News" and its cheap fix of "reality" teevee shows that keep us doped up and apolitical.
Like you, I've got hope; but as many posters here like dcbeltway and KEM PATRICK have opined, things will have to get a lot worse and immediate for the people of the US to respond.
I agree with correctivelens that "we have a long, long way to go with the "masses." Opposition to this administration is not stronger because the public is not required any immediate sacrifice (we put the war on the credit card, don't instigate a draft, etc.). If we want to wake the masses up, then promote a draft or pass legislation that requires a balanced war budget, including tax increases. The public responds to immediate incentives so we must form our government to make the public feel a war immediately."
We need to make people PAY for the war in real time. Bush's charge card is overlimit and must be cancelled.
I am an elected officer for a small union chapter (300 members). But whenever we meet for executive board meetings, or meetings with the officers of other chapters, I give away paired copies of the DVD Zeitgeist and Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine: The Rise Of Disaster Capitalism." I've given away 20 sets so far, with an accompanying speech about how democratic values and social safety nets are in free fall across the globe. The UltraWealthy are engaged in an endrun on the peoples of the world. I recite Klein's argument that unionism and strong civil societies were allowed to prosper in Western Europe after WWII ONLY because the Bankers needed to have a persuasive countermodel to the Soviet system. Now that communism is no more, there is a no-holds-barred fight to the bottom for the Elites. It's all about maximum profit regardless of human cost. The more fearful, impoverished, overworked, and physically ill we are, the less able we'll be to mount any meaningful resistance. This is why there was no comparable "Marshall Plan" for Yeltsin's Russia and none for Iraq. Just pure laissez faire capitalism -- a loaded term which means profits will be privatized and all the costs socialized -- a government by and for the (fictitious) Corporate Person.
In any event, my hope is that the National Educators Association will give up on George Miller, Nancy Pelosi, and all the other dimocratic scoundrels who are intent on reauthorizing an even worse version of NCLB. The Educational Testing Service is making millions on all this mandatory testing (that is being used to destroy public education), and they own Congress with their contributions. I ask my higher-ups: "When will our union abandon the democrats and endorse candidates from a third party like the Greens?"
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Just like Goldfinger, Columbus loved gold.
However, unlike Goldfinger, he did not love only gold. He loved Christianity more than gold. He wanted to spread the Christian faith over the entire planet.
With respect to his faith, he had a more specific project than spreading the Christian gospel to all four corners of the world: he wanted to launch another crusade in order to conquer and "liberate" Jerusalem. To that end, he needed funds, and the "Indies," he thought, were going to supply him with the requisite gold. (This is stated explicitly in the December 26, 1492 entry of his travel log.)
In other words, Columbus killed, enslaved, maimed, and pillaged for Christ and to realize his great crusade.
Doesn't it sound familiar?
(For all the evidence, see Tzvetan Todorov, The Conquest of America: the above facts are laid out in the first chapter.)
namvet67, "it's pretty clear today that the Muslims of the world are the Native Americans of America's birth."
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Clear to whom? It's clear if that's your mindset. The American Indians were murdered in a brutal genocide. This was their land and we took it. I hate it, it makes me sick and it's also the way it's always been throughout history. One group comes in, ransacks, loots and kills the inhabitants of another. It happend all over Europe, it happened in ancient times, it even happened with tribal societies in pre-civilzation times, where one tribe would completely exterminate another tribe.
The situation in the Middle-East is complicated and more complicated with endless political and religious strife and the situation with the American Indians was pretty simple. We wanted their land and we took it. They didn't attack us, for the most part, we attacked them. I'm sorry. I don't see the Iranian government and particularly the active Jihaddists as innocent victims. Many middle easterners, including Ahmadinejad, hate the jews with a vengeance. One minute they're denying that the holocaust ever happened, the next they say their only complaint with Hitler is that he didn't kill all the jews. It's a well known fact. Iran is in Iraq, a country that they don't give a hoot about, arming the insurgents and attacking our soldiers.
I hate that we went into Iraq to begin with. I was always against it. I hate the way our American government has gone. It once strove for freedom, now it strives for material conquest in the name of freedom, while keeping us all slaves.
But please don't compare the Native Americans with the modern Middle East. It's rife with propaganda.
Hey Rebel Farmer long time...no see.
What's up doc?
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"Two Million Iraq Deaths,
Eight Million Bush Asian Holocaust Deaths And Media Holocaust Denial" [Excerpt]
By Dr Gideon Polya
07 October, 2007
IT GETS WORSE. The total death toll in the Bush I and Bush II Asian Wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Lebanon) now totals 8 million (EIGHT MILLION as summarized below (for a detailed and documented breakdown see "United State Terrorism. 8 million Deaths & Media Holocaust Denial: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/17139/42/ ):
1. US-backed Apartheid Israeli occupation of Lebanon (much of the 1978-2006 period) [0.07 million] – 1978-2000 excess deaths in Lebanon totalled 60,000; about 10,000 violent killings by Israelis or Israeli surrogates occurred in the period 1978-2006.
2. US-backed Apartheid Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza (1967-2007) [0.31 million] – 1957-2007 excess deaths in the Occupied Palestinian Territory totalled about 0.3 million; about 10,000 Palestinians were violently killed (5,000 in the 2000-2007 Second Intifada period alone).
3. US Gulf War (1990-1991) [0.2 million] – an estimated 0.2 million violent Iraqi deaths due to the Bush I Gulf War.
4. US Sanctions War (1990-2003) [1.7 million] – an estimated 1.7 million Iraqi excess deaths occurred in the period 1990-2003 under the Bush I-Clinton I-Bush II Sanctions; the number of under-5 infant deaths in this period totalled 1.2 million (roughly 90% of these deaths were avoidable).
5. US Afghanistan War (2001-2007) [3.2 million] - excess deaths from UN Population Division data total 2.5 million; however excess deaths determined from under-5 infant deaths and dividing by 0.7 total 3.2 million (see "Layperson's Guide to Counting Iraq Deaths" on MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/5872/26/ ).
6. US Iraq War (2003-2007) [2.0 million] – 1.2 million post-invasion violent deaths (from the latest UK ORB survey) plus 0.8 million post-invasion non-violent excess deaths (from UNICEFunder-5 year old infant mortality data; see #5 above).
7. Global opiate drug-related deaths due to US actions [0.5 million] - 0.1 million people die each year around the world (0.6 million over 6 years) from opiate drug-related causes. Accordingly, about 0.5 million have died avoidably since 9/11 from opiate drug-related causes due to the UK-US restoration of the Taliban-destroyed Afghan opium industry from about 5% of world market share in 2001 to a current 93% (see UN Office on Drugs and Crime, UNODC, 2007 World Drug Report).
We can thus assess the human cost of the Bush I and Bush II Asian Wars at 0.06 + 0.31 + 0.2 + 1.7 + 3.2 + 2.0 + 0.5 million = 8 million.
stilba,ANY act,no matter how great or how small should ever be discounted ! am i a fool ?answer:YES,BUT NOW I AM A FOOL WITH A FORUM,and a smart,tough likeminded audience,it feels foolishly comforting......... on to the topic of columbus......COLUMBUS DAY=A CELEBRATION OF GENOCIDE...
workreno: Excellent quote! The natives attitude is wonderful! And disproves many of the prior posters' thesis that humans are basically bad. I think your quote points up the fact that SOME humans are bad. It isn't the DNA that makes us good or bad humans. It's whether we are truely civilized or not. Obviously, Columbus and those that followed were the true savages, not civilized men.
When Columbus landed on a Caribbean island to "discover" America in 1492,a genrous Native people greeted him warmly with food,water,and other gifts. It was there first incounter with Empire. Columbus wroye in his log:
They ..brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things,which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks'bells. They willingly traded everything they owned...They were well-built,with good bodies and handsome features...They do not bear arms,and do not know them,for I showed them a sword,they took it by the edgeand cut themselves out of ignorance.They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane...They would make fine servants... With fifty men we could subjugate themall and make them do whatever we want... They are so naive and so free with there possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would not believe it.When you ask for something they have,they never say no.To the contrary,they offerto share with anyone...As soon as I arrived in theIndies,on the first Island which I found,I took some of the nativesby force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts.
This from" The Great Turning" by David C .Korten
Chuck Cliff -
You need to check out people like the Cherokee and the Seminoles. Look up a real history of Andrew Jackson, and find out that the $20 bill celebrates a man who advocated genocide of US citizens. When did Native USAns lose the Mississippi basin, the heartland of US agriculture? Find out when these happened relative to the 1860s. The post 1865 era may have been worse in terms of percent of remaining Native USAns killed per year (relative to the remaining population), largely due to the fact that white US had reached the coast. Most of the bad stuff happened earlier. Smallpox infested blankets, anyone?
whitewatersally: "bravery is born from fear and the act of overcoming it."
Posting on this website is not bravery. But let's not get too excited. Most of us on here are comfortable, sitting at work or home, grumpy armchair dissidents trying to say the smart thing, the right thing, amidst so much madness and stupidity ...in the world and, on some days, right here on comondreams.org. Bravery? That implies danger. Even if you're fool enough to type out something crazy that'll sic Uncle Sam's secret police on you, there's still no real danger because a fool has no fear.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you a fool or a coward. No, you're just here like me, mulling things over in a "public" forum. Bickering or patting each other on the back. It amounts to the chat you'd have at your neighborhood pub over a few pints, and often feels nearly as drunk. Don't believe for an instant that it's something "good" to be chatting here. At best it's neutral. But hell, it is a better exercise than a lot of the other options there are for killing time.
"Does all of this reveal a deeper flaw in our moral narrative itself?"
The narrative "flaw" begins long before, with the assumption that evolved intelligence equals "good." History, of course, proves otherwise. Instead of admitting we're a violent, emotional species with more smarts than self-control, we struggle to constantly convince ourselves of the opposite, no matter how high the bodies pile up.
Like an alcoholic, until we willingly accept and face our "deeper flaw," no solution is possible.
Human beings have a tendency of being nasty to one another. It is in our genes. That's why our leaders always betray us. But we need leaders, because we are social beings and we love to believe the other. Frankly, we get it off on being angry about the bastards that push us around. We have known how this works for quite a while and that is why democracy was invented, to be able to replace our leaders when they start to exaggerate their nastiness. But democracy has been corrupted by sheer power and at the moment it is nothing more than a very sick joke. Example: we give the Palestinians free elections and when they elect Hamas, we tell them: sorry, wrong party, you shall be punished for using your democratic rights. Now how do we expect the Palestinians to embrace democracy after such a farce?
We cannot change our ways – well, we can, but we're not up to it – but we can change the impact of our failings. As said by others, the present answer seems to be: localize it. We have to get rid of globalization and create sustainable communities that can function in ecological balance with their environment. I know this sounds pretty scary: help, isolation! But we have created a number of useful tools that can easily uphold our interconnectedness while we are in the process of downscaling and getting to know our actual neighbours. I mean, we can still email one another. And the good news is: we don't have to love one another. We don't have to become brothers. We can happily hate each other's guts. As long as we don't hurt the other, we are entitled to every imperfect politically incorrect thought. Wouldn't that be wonderful?
Thank you for your great posting littlem85.
Wa aleykum salaam.
Thank you fpal. I agree that basic human rights, as written in the Declaration of Independence, must apply equally to all peoples everywhere on the planet. It would be a good place to start - AGAIN!
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Generally, Carrol has done a good piece here in that it starts the discussion of how we got to this point and where do we go from here. I think what is needed is a monumental paradigm shift when considering the purpose and path of the human race as a whole. After all, we are ALL in this leaky boat together. Anyone or anything that does not contribute to keeping the poat afloat needs to be thrown overboard.
I don't have the answer, of course. I do believe that nothing of any significance is going to change unless there is a major event that wakes EVERY American up. And I think that event(s) is coming. Whether it an attack on Iran, marshal law being declared, an econmomic melt down, or a combination of events is really beside the point. It's coming and we ALL need to focus on how we will react and act until the dust clears.
It's best to prepare on a community level first. Get to know your neighbors and what local resources can be accessed. Put your dollars into essentials, food, and items for barter. Don't forget the veggie seeds. Move ALL of your money, including IRA's, out of banks and put them with your local credit unions NOW. Plan a garden, preferably community gardens in public spaces.
And don't forget to vote for Kucinich in the primaries.
And keep in touch.
Peace
LeeAnn: Your community is truely exceptional!
feedback=soulfood !..rock on...!happy to be,here..
I find it offensive that we celebrate Columbus Day. First of all, we're not even sure he "discovered" America. It is said that several other Europeans have made it here before; Columbus just took the credit. And second, proclaiming that he "discovered America" is offensive to the millions of people who had been living here for thousands of years before his arrival. I think there are plenty of other historical figures that we'd be better off honoring that Columbus.
Do you think we should celebrate Columbus? http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=661
re: fpal 4:05
Why else create and support dictators like the Shah of Iran, the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia, Pinochet in Chile, Ferdinand Macros of the Philippines, Suharto in Indonesia, etc.
If this is a question?
I have an answer, if indeed it is a question.
We support those governments which do our bidding. Dictators are easier to support because you only have to buy a few people. With democracies you have to buy everyone, and that's too expensive, there's no profit.
Freedom is an American value, but it only applies to Americans and selected others who shall not be named because any criticism of them brings on rapid and rabid denunciations of biblical proportions.
Like any other ideal, American democracy has fallen short of its goals. America was founded on imperialism, religious intolerance (the Puritans were escaping religious persecution of their own religion, only to impose it when they arrived at their destination), slavery, and other unfortunate aspects. However, there is another side to the story. It was also founded on the principles of equality, rationalism, government by the people, independence, individualism, and intellectual thought. These principles are not followed, but it is rare that any human entity adheres to its beliefs.
In spite of unfettered capitalism, government hypocrisy, the outrages of the Bush cabal, the dumbing down of the populace through mainstream media, and all the other abuses of power, a certain human spirit sometimes survives. I am incredibly fortunate to live in a place where people truly engage in their lives. Maybe West Virginia is an anomaly, but my friends and acquaintances have gardens, coach youth sports, play chess and other social games, can and freeze their own vegetables, play music together, sit down to dinner with their families, keep up on current events, vote, read books of all kinds, and a vast variety of other activities. They are concerned about what is happening to this country, but don't know what to do about it. Many of us attempt to make a difference by attending protests, writing letters, and joining organizations (as I've written before on this site), but feel limited as to what we can do.
The Americans I know are not apathetic, do not fall for the catapulted propaganda, and have not retreated into computer relationships or mindless TV. They come from all walks of life and include back-to-the-landers, native born backwoods kids who grew up using an outhouse, teachers, lawyers, musicians, artists, secretaries, and many others. Some are even wingnut Christians and conservatives, although most are more liberal. Not included are CEOs and powermongers.
My sincere hope is that "regular" people like my friends and family will survive the current onslaught and go on to pass their knowledge, skills, and wisdom to future generations. For what it's worth, my advice to readers here is to cultivate your own garden, reach out to others with love and kindness, stay intellectually and physically active, try to find ways to grow emotionally, learn something new as often as possible, and take care of each other.
Government has always been both a help and a hindrance; the one we have now is worse than most, but in general I believe We The People can overcome. Even Pandora's box held hope.
littlem85,
How do you know that "All He[god] asks in repayment is gratitude by believing in Him and upholding justice and forbidding corruption[?]"
Have you spoken to god? Did god speak to you? Are you the new messiah?
"Does all of this reveal a deeper flaw in our moral narrative itself?"
The answer is YES. American righteousness is a lie and false.
Freedom is not an American value. Why else create and support dictators like the Shah of Iran, the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia, Pinochet in Chile, Ferdinand Macros of the Philippines, Suharto in Indonesia, etc. Let alone, slavery, racial discrimination, torture, and preemptive war.
Further, human rights and rights under law, according to American politicians, only apply to Americans. This is morally bankrupt, it's political segregation and discrimination. If a person has rights then all people have rights, not just Americans. People in other countries may not have the protection of the U.S. constitution but Americans should recognize their rights as people.
@ gde
Accepting that Carroll is using a broad brush in a short essay, I don't think it was "assinine" to say the Civil War spawned the genocide of Native peoples. What before had been a driving of them off their land, with the conquest of the West the fullfilment of Manifest Destiny became much more ugly, which also aimed at destroying culture, religion and language.
One point Carroll did not bring up is the part of Big Money in developments after the Civil War. Enormous fortunes amassed during the war changed things forever. Corporations became "legal" persons, immortal, of immense power, economic and political.
Later, in the 2nd half of the 20th century, they morph into MegaCorps, with economic power greater than that of many countries.
In the name of God the All Merciful, the Mercy-giving
I must say the answer to the prodding question at the end is a resounding YES!!!!!
The American myth is false. America was founded by imperial entities and those imperial entities (soon to become corporate entities) have stayed in power since.
"This movement from problem to resolution to new problem and ever new efforts to fix things is what makes the American story great."
No, that is what makes the HUMAN story great. Normal HUMAN BEINGS in touch with their humanity have an amazing ability to correct things.
The fact is that the policies and history of this country have always been imperial (i.e. massacre, ravage, steal, and corrupt). This present War on Terror is right on target in regards to true American history.
The Civil War was fought for economic gains, not freedom of any sort. Nor did it spawn "Indian" (are we still using a term that some ignorant European mistakenly used???) genocide...that was happening WAY before the Civil War.
To say Reagan ended the Cold War "bloodlessly" is not altogether true. He instigated and perpetuated economic oppression all over the globe, which then led to a lot of civil strife in those affected countries.
Because what Carroll calls the "resolutions" are not based on selfless, human, and godly premises, they never actually resolved anything. The corruption and problems compile one on top of another.
We need to stop this nationalistic narrative stuff. Nationalism is dead and irrelevant (thanks to multi-national corporations). It's time for the focus to be on the human narrative. We are all of one another, stemming from the same, single soul of Adam, peace on him.
God created us from nothing, and then we became living, thinking beings with all our sensory organs. He did not have to make any one of us, but He did. All He asks in repayment is gratitude by believing in Him and upholding justice and forbidding corruption.
God has commanded us to uphold justice, even if it's against our own selves. And until we do so, we will continue to see these problems occur and reoccur.
Those who fail to do so will be accountable for all the misery and corruption they caused.
But those who try, selflessly for the sake of God, to stop that corruption and reestablish justice so that we may all live in peace together, will be rewarded for all eternity.
Salaam
I don't think the people have the wisdom or the courage to do what must be done and properly remove and punish the people responsible for the most recent crimes committed by the parties that have currently assumed charge of this nation. I mean really, I just cannot see that wicked grin being wiped from Bush's face after being assured that a series of legitimate charges of war crimes are being brought against him and his war profitering colleagues, in public and private. Why not? Because no political body or institution will do it. I would if I could. Instead he is smoothly sailing back to the ranch. That much he seems very confident of. Rattle his cage a little and see how fast he breaks down. He can't handle pressure very well, at least not a war crimes trial kind of pressure where he is the defendant, and these days he seems quite relaxed. He is even energized enough to continue his crusade by attacking Iran. As for the people. The people are too divided to adequately address their own concerns in relation to government. Which is what allows the politicals at all levels to get away with anything, unless it has something to do with sex. They can fly nuclear bombs over Kansas, doesn't matter unless someone was having sex on the plane. The NSA can assign training frequencies to the NORAD pilots causing them to not be able to discern real hijackings from a training exercise, no matter, as long as there was no sex involved, the band plays on. Steal two presedential elections, one a little more sophisticated than the other, big deal, sure, but not as big a deal as a little sex in a polling booth. A private banking industry orchestrates the collaspe of a market causing thousands to suffer the loss of personal property, what do the people say about that? Not much. Ummm...where is the sex story? Although, I do beleive that justice in some way will be found and delivered. I just hope it happens while the criminals are still living, and soon.