So al-Qa'ida is "almost defeated", is it? Major gains against al-Qa'ida. Essentially defeated. "On balance, we are doing pretty well," the CIA's boss, Michael Hayden, tells The Washington Post. "Near strategic defeat of al-Qa'ida in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for al-Qa'ida in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for al-Qa'ida globally - and here I'm going to use the word 'ideologically' - as a lot of the Islamic world pushes back on their form of Islam." Well, you could have fooled me.
Six thousand dead in Afghanistan, tens of thousands dead in Iraq, a suicide bombing a day in Mesopotamia, the highest level of suicides ever in the US military - the Arab press wisely ran this story head to head with Hayden's boasts - and permanent US bases in Iraq after 31 December. And we've won?
Less than two years ago, we had an equally insane assessment of the war when General Peter Pace, the weird (and now mercifully retired) chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said of the American war in Iraq that "we are not winning but we are not losing". At which point, George Bush's Defence Secretary, Robert Gates, said he agreed with Pace that "we are not winning but we are not losing".
James Baker, who had just produced his own messy report on Iraq then said - reader, please do not laugh or cry - "I don't think you can say we're losing. By the same token, I'm not sure we're winning." Then Bush himself proclaimed, "We're not winning; we're not losing." Pity about the Iraqis. But anyway, now we really, really are winning. Or at least al-Qa'ida is "almost" - note the "almost", folks - defeated. So Mike Hayden tells us.
Am I alone in finding this stuff infantile to the point of madness? As long as there is injustice in the Middle East, al-Qa'ida will win. As long as we have 22 times as many Western forces in the Muslim world as we did at the time of the Crusades - my calculations are pretty accurate - we are going to be at war with Muslims. The hell-disaster of the Middle East is now spread across Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Gaza, even Lebanon. And we are winning?
Yes, we've bought ourselves some time in Iraq by paying half of the insurgents to fight for us and to murder their al-Qa'ida cousins. Yes, we are continuing to prop up Saudi Arabia's head-chopping and torture-practising regime - no problem there, I suppose, after our enthusiasm for "water-boarding" - but this does not mean that al-Qa'ida is defeated.
Because al-Qa'ida is a way of thinking, not an army. It feeds on pain and fear and cruelty - our cruelty and oppression - and as long as we continue to dominate the Muslim world with our Apache helicopters and our tanks and our Humvees and our artillery and bombs and our "friendly" dictators, so will al-Qa'ida continue.
Must we live this madness through to the very end of the Bush regime in Washington? Is there no one in that magnificent, imperial city who understands what "we" are doing out here in the Middle East? Why on earth does The Washington Post even give room to the fantasies of a functionary from the CIA, the very organisation that failed to prevent 9/11 because - if we are to believe what we are told - a phone call in Arabic about crashing planes into the twin towers hadn't been translated in time? Are we going to bomb Iran? Is this what we are waiting for now? Or is it to be another proxy Iranian-American war in Lebanon, fought out by Hizbollah and the Israelis? And does Mike believe al-Qa'ida is in Iran?
Israel continues to build settlements for Jews - and Jews only - on Arab land. And Washington does nothing. Illegal though these settlements are, George Bush goes along with it. They fuel anger and frustration and a righteous sense of grievance - and Washington will not prevent this outrage from continuing. I open my Arab papers each morning to find new reasons why the Bin Ladens of this world will not go away.
Take the story that came out of Gaza this week. Eight Palestinian students won grants from the Fulbright scholarship programme to study in the United States. You'd think, wouldn't you, that it was in the interest of America to bring these young Muslim people to the land of the free. But no. Israel won't let them leave Gaza. It's all part of the "war on terror" which Israel claims it is fighting alongside America. So the US State Department has cancelled the scholarships. No, it's not worth turning yourself into an al-Qa'ida suicide bomber for such a nonsense. But it would be difficult to find anything meaner, pettier, more vicious than this in yesterday's papers.
Does Mike Hayden read this stuff? Or is he, like most of Washington, so frightened of Israel that he wouldn't say boo to a goose? Doesn't the CIA realise - or imagine - that as long as we allow the Middle East to fester under a cloak of injustice, al-Qa'ida will continue? Why are our forces - and this is a question I was asked in Baghdad - in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Egypt, Algeria (yes, US special forces have a base near Tamanraset), Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Tajikistan? (Yes again, French bomber pilots are based at Dushanbe to fly "close air support" for our lads in Afghanistan.)
And as long as we have stretched this iron curtain across the Middle East, we will be at war and al-Qa'ida will be at war with us. This new iron curtain, by the way, starts up in Greenland and stretches down through Britain and Germany, through Bosnia and Greece to Turkey. What is it for? What's on the other side? Russia. China. India.
These are questions we do not ask; certainly they're not the kind of questions that The Washington Post would dare to put to Mike and his chums at the CIA. Yes, we huff and we puff about democracy and freedom and human rights, though we give little enough of them to the Muslim world. For the kind of freedom they want - the kind of freedom that allows outfits like al-Qa'ida to flourish - is freedom from "us". And this, I fear, we do not intend to give them.
Mike Hayman may think the Muslim world is "pushing back" al-Qa'ida's "form of Islam", but I doubt it. Indeed, I rather suspect al-Qa'ida is growing stronger. Mike says they're defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. But are they defeated in London? And Bali? And in New York and Washington?
—Robert Fisk
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43 Comments so far
Show AllFull, hahahaha! No, I had nothing to do with that and think it's pretty darn silly. The most offensive thing about Rachel Ray to me is that she tries to pass off triscuts with some ham on top as serious cuisine!
Luci: I wish that local energy production could work, but I simply do not believe it. Solar, wind, and the rest simply do not produce the energy required to run heavy industry, and until they do its pie in the sky. Nuclear is here now, it uses fuel we have plenty of and is much cheaper then oil, and its far far less polluting. Yes, there are problems with its funding and regulation, but these are things that can be fixed with the proper policy.
Look at france, for an example of how nuclear power can work.
Jewbacca : said "we should be upping our "hot fission" nuclear power plants!"
No thank you! By no means am I a supporter of thermal nuclear fission energy in the short or long term, for easily demonstrable reasons of cost, residual waste pollution, security, and many other detrimental factors not least large scale central production as apposed to preferred low cost small scale local self managed energy production and consumption.
I am not adequately familiar with the US nuclear industry other than to know, it too cannot be considered a viable energy production source without massive and sometimes hidden subsidies from government to principally the same crony companies of the MIC.
I'm sure it's problems are most likely similar and no less dramatic than those reported in the UK today. Lieberman and McCain seem just as keen to spend your and your grand children's money for loosing nuclear plants, as the British government is.
"What a waste: dream of free energy turns into £3bn-a-year public bill"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/29/britishenergygroupbusines...
No, you cannot look at nuclear fission and fusion in the same breath at all. Suggest you looked at the "war against cold fusion" video above.
Exactly like Viet Nam. The sooner we lose and admit defeat, we win. Well not really because we actually win nothing. We, They -- what's the difference? We are fighting ourselves. There is no winning -- winning is for kids in a little game. Republican = Liar. Democrats are just slightly better but will probably make no difference.
Jewbacca- Glad to see that you have returned! One question- are you one of the bloggers responsible for getting Rachel Ray's Dunkin Donuts ad pulled because she did not consult the pro-zionist movement on what kind of atire to wear during her commercial. Just curious.
Fellow CommonDreamers- If there is any doubt about how much influence the Zionists have in this country, the Rachel Ray example should erase all doubts. The pulling of the commercial may seem small, but if they put that much energy into a non-issue imagine what they are doing on a truly political level. Just some Food for Thought!!!
Bane Richter June 1st, 2008 11:59 am
Since al-Qa'ida may have been founded in Washington, DC with funding and support from the CIA the only way a great football team name is going away is when, generally speaking, the human race is sophisticated enough to reason beyond the simplistic concept of win or lose
i agree regardless of wether the CIA is still complicit in the situation or not..the american government's stance regarding the rest of the world being "either for us or against us" was/is enough to send any-one stark raving mad....the only sane response is "what?????..ok suit your self"
it's a self fullfilling prophesy...madness and as far as it's possible to tell it now impossible to have genuine empathy nor support for the USA simply because that is not considered to be "completely unreserved" and thus not acceptable to the american government...hence the war without end and self perpetuating hostility..and yet this is a "hearts and minds" problem...this being terrorism and all...and terrorism is all about hearts and minds at the end of the day (and at the start of it allso)...gosh darn it all george et all......the anger at 9/11 is perfectly understandable and a response is certainly essentail...but this is a democracy..that having been said the problems are fairly obvious..but a war?
Radical, of course you don't want to read my posts, you want to live in a fantasy world where everyone agrees with you and your ideas are never challenged.
Sorry guys, but as I always say, I'm here to break up the circle-jerk.
Luc: I'm very impressed to see one of you bring up cold fusion. This is the way of the future and truly what will end our dependance on foriegn energy. In the meantime, we should be upping our "hot fission" nuclear power plants!
LUCITANIA: Evocative post.
Sandyke77, I have no wish to oppose your opinion, but I wish you would try and realise you are playing their game, defining your choices in the terms dictated to you. Obama, Clinton or McCain are all attached to the same puppet masters and are much of a muchness.
Just dare to imagine for a moment that China with Japan and India succeed in the practical application of "Cold Fusion", a position America might have been in 10 years ago, if not for Bush senior's rigging science for commercial interests.
Cold fusion demonstration
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldfusion_demonstration_a_suc_1.ht...
The war against cold fusion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5214938694909002743&q=war+on+co...
No need for oil or war to achieve strategic control, also the end of man made global warming, hence no need for a MIC and the New American Century and its failed empire with a collection of puppet dictators.
Leadership that is neither earned nor merited is simply dictatorship, and one that needs to be maintained by criminal military coercion is tyranny. I'm just sorry if you cannot see the lies that support your delusions.
Who says war and militarism is inevitable? Who benefits? Why do you go on believing them?
The carbon-auto profiteers need terrorists to provide them political cover as they to try to control oil-rich regions. That's why their policies "surprisingly" increase terrorist recruitment.
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http://freepublictransit.org
http://frepubtra.blogspot.com
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The U.S. carbon-auto industry has trillions involved in refining, distribution, and consumption infrastructure. But they need more control over crude oil. If they can't control an area, they are content to keep it in chaos. Then they can send in troops as needed to keep competitors out.
citizen1 shame on you for joining jewdini with your racist comment. how is your comment any different than theirs?
jewdini, shame on you. -ism's are killing the world! how about life-ism for a change? how is one life more valuable than another?
ewdini June 1st, 2008 5:13 pm
" (Arabs) …the most barbarically backward culture …."
Are you sure about that? The good ole USA has trumped that position!
And to answer other posted comments:
Yes I know the world will not suddenly change on 01/20/09.
But I do believe Barack will be much better than what we have had. At least he's not a war monger like the Bushies. (as far as I know)
The world still looks to America to lead the way and we've short changed our responsiblity of late.
But America is still alive and well and we WILL kick these thieving bastards out of office and hopefully live up to expectations.
Ya gotta have SOME hope. And, in my humble opinion, Barack is a much more sane choice than either Billary or Mcbomb.
Little Brother THANK YOU. Sometimes it is difficult to fathom that clever people like Fisk and some of the commentators here still accept the whole al Qaeda myth and the big ball of string that it comes with.
It seems impossible for some people to think further than the two dimensional perspective of Hollywood, but if they tried, they would understand that to the US-Zionist Military Industrial Complex which now has a military equalled only by all the militaries in the world combined "victory" is not "who" or how many of the enemy you kill or capture, but HOW MANY ANEMIES YOU CREATE.
From the incredibility of the 9-11 event and the botched two-penny white-wash of an investigation to the litany of apparent disastrous decisions made in Washington and Tel Aviv it cannot but seem obvious to even the more retarded that there is a "reason and method to this madness" and it has nothing to do with the "liberation and democratization" of the Muslim world.
Personally I can only hope that McCain is crowned in 09, hopefully again by deception, in order to cause the deserved revolution of disgust internally in that country of the walking, talking, opinionated, consuming, brainless, and spineless. Fascism grows slowly like a cancer on the tolerance of inhumanity, fed by the necessities of the burgeoning oppressed plus the cultivation of propaganda on a field fertile with ignorance and indifference.
If anyone believes that a Bogy man in a cave in Afghanistan and a video cam and 19 men with Home store box cutters, could have done this to the US then you are fools. No. A Zionist-Fascist US of America, with its unique ally Israel that most Americans are too blind even to see, has done this to itself… deliberately. You can invoke God, Allah, Buddha, Shiva, or whatever to protect you, but it will not help one iota unless you open our eyes, see the monster for what it is and stop accepting the myths that the MIC's psych-ops feed you daily, and above all stop feeling that it is enough or some how satisfactory to have "expressed" an opinion on some blog or comment, or written to some pawn in the Senate or the House.
Wake up. You are playing a game, given you to support your denial. Realise the truth DEMOCRACY IS DEAD and you are enslaved.
luckylefty June 1st, 2008 8:01 pm
As long as there is any wealth left in America that can be transferred to the top 1/10th of 1% - we will be in Iraq.
"And what did you do in the war daddy?" "Well, I sodomized a 14yo raghead in front of his peasant mother so she would reveal state secrets. See, I got a medal for it."
Sadly that is the attitude of the American serviceman/woman. This thread seems to have gotten a bit off topic.
Americans always get off topic and become rabid dogs whenever Zionist Israel comes up. Never mind the brutal murder, and land theft, apartheid.
They wanted to burn Jimmy Carter at the stake for telling the truth.
Shall we call them the Diamond Dogs?
Another thought provoking and disturbing report from Robert Fisk. The point that, here I'll just quote,
"Because al-Qa'ida is a way of thinking, not an army. It feeds on pain and fear and cruelty - our cruelty and oppression - and as long as we continue to dominate the Muslim world with our Apache helicopters and our tanks and our Humvees and our artillery and bombs and our "friendly" dictators, so will al-Qa'ida continue",
should be of extreme interest to the Haydens of this insane country. Do they not understand that oppression brings push back, that violence is met with violence, that rather than spreading freedom we are supporting dictators? If we do not soon replace the insanity with some clear vision there will be no hope for any.
My favorite post here (as well as name) is blessthebeasts: "We will always be 'almost
winning' in Iraq-- so tantalizingly close that we just can't leave."
This and the other mind-games just cannot be called often enough. I hope that, in the near future, people will be RELENTLESS in exposing the affectations by which John McCain lives, as they never fully did for Bush, and will not be taken in by the grandfatherly tone disguising another fool.
Stupid people at cocktail parties are now looking forward to the new "civility" of Obama-McCain debates.
For that very reason-- the likelihood that Obama will be civil-- not a bad quality-- we outsiders may have to do the heavy work of exposing McCain's romance novel thinking over and over again.
Please, anybody, don't be gentle with this guy. If you go by tone of voice, you will be.
If you go by what he represents and how he
actually thinks, you'll give him a bloody coxcomb-- there won't be any other choice.
Remember, he had one substantial thing going for him: his opposition to torture. And he gave it up.
"On balance, we are doing pretty well," the CIA's boss, Michael Hayden, tells The Washington Post. "Near strategic defeat of al-Qa'ida in Iraq. Near strategic defeat for al-Qa'ida in Saudi Arabia. Significant setbacks for al-Qa'ida globally - and here I'm going to use the word 'ideologically' - as a lot of the Islamic world pushes back on their form of Islam."
Dear al-Qa'ida,
We don't really think you're defeated. We're just hoping that saying it will spur you into action. Our boy, McCain, isn't polling too well. We figure a big terrorist attack will put him over the top. If he's elected you can bet on a lot of military activity against Muslims that will help you recruit. So please, be provoked. Show the world you aren't defeated. We'll both benefit.
Respectfully yours,
Michael Hayden
The tinfoil hat brigade is out in force tonight. Do I hear the black helicopters?
Jewdini June 1st, 2008 5:13 pm
" (Arabs) ...the most barbarically backward culture ...."
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You Jew#@%$, are you not going the same path as Hitler, who had characterized the Jews Untermenschen?
Heavy runner- Al Qeada IS a CIA construct, born out of the US covert war with Russia in Afghanistan. It was created, supplied and equipped by the US intelligence community, and it's weaponry was handled via Pakistan's ISI intelligence service, which was itself dependent upon the US and CIA.
I read a piece the other day by a man from Pakistan who speaks Arabic and he is of the opinion that Al Qaeda is a stepchild of the CIA dating back to the period before the Soviets went into Afghanistan.
He says that in colloquial Arabic, Al Qaeda means "the toilet." So he finds it humorous to think that any true Muslim would call their group Al Qaeda.
We will always be "almost winning" in Iraq--so tantalizingly close that we just can't leave. That's why we'll get McCain's hundred years of war.
RadicalConfucian
My thought was that the intent is to plant here the notion that Obama is anti-Palestinian or anti-Arab. Obama tries hard not to be anti-anybody, but if you are a genuine friend of Israel, you had better be pro-peace.
I really don't believe that "proud jewish zionist" folk would come here to CD and chose names like Jewdini and Jewbaca and then spout the most simple minded racist comments about Arab cultures...why waste the time? I suppose they are either a CIA operative trying to test the progressive waters or just some bored CD poster who is trying to stir up some progressive anger. In either event, I suppose we shouldn't pay them too much heed (i.e. no need to read those posts)...
As long as there is any wealth left in America that can be transferred to the top 1/10th of 1% - we will be in Iraq. In combination with our phony GWOT and our phony GWOD and our Congress of Dim and Repug War Criminals they together comprise a huge vacuum cleaner moving back and forth across the country, ripping it out of our lives and transferring the wealth to the "right people". When America has the wealth distribution of say Columbia, our Masters might bring a few boys home. Rapists and torturers first. They're the ones with the medals. "And what did you do in the war daddy?" "Well, I sodomized a 14yo raghead in front of his peasant mother so she would reveal state secrets. See, I got a medal for it."
We have an OIL curtain stretched across the Middle East. The US of Zionism is the most technologically advanced barbaric civilization. Barbarity is also defined by how you treat with others, especially those in low positions of respective power. Calling the victims barbarians does not absolve responsibility, it masks the bigotry of the callers. The continued occupation of Iraq is barbaric. A reign of fortresses, missiles and mercenaries. Blood for Oil. Brought to you by the Empire of Vampires. Super strong bringers of death that suck the blood out of every man , women and child of the victim nations. A scale of death and destruction that is now more than 5 years times 365 times longer, and scales to nations vs a city when compared to the world trade centre strike.
The vampires are the corporations that supply the military hardware and are trying their very best to steal the oil, and pay the necessary bribes to the so-called peoples representatives of the US using the governments own printed money. The only way to kill the mythical vampire is to put a stake through its heart, or to expose it to direct sunlight.
Hence the secretive nature of the US war and total blindness of its mass media, since Vampires do want media exposure of ongoing blood-oil orgies to the light of day.
Al-Qaida have not only been defeated they have been outdone by the US of Zionist Terror by a factor of at least a hundred thousand fold.
Hayden, another Pentagon hand-puppet, inflicting more psy-war on the media first (who eat anything) and us second....And obviously, Bush and Israel alike know exactly what they're doing---fomenting eternally profitable war which (as designed in the Bronze Age) gives them power (to terrorize) at home....
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
AQI Is Not al-Qaida, al-Qaida Is Not in Iraq
by Dan Clore
(I prefer the transliteration "al-Qaida", but when quoting others, I leave the transliteration as they give it.)
John McCain has repeatedly charged that Iran has provided
training and support to "al-Qaeda". He has quickly corrected
this to simply "extremists" when it has been pointed out to him that al-Qaida is a Sunni group, whereas the Iranians are Shiite.
However, even after making this correction, McCain has allowed another important misidentification to stand, and critics such as Media Matter for America have also not corrected this error.
McCain and many others refer to two separate, different, distinct groups as "al-Qaeda".
The first group is al-Qaida proper -- the group headed by Osama bin Laden, the group that committed 9/11.
The second group is named "al-Qaida in Iraq" or "al-Qaida in
Mesopotamia" (hereafter, AQI). This group was founded in
October, 2004, as a resistane group against the occupation of Iraq. It was headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi until his death in 2006.
While the two groups are ideologically allied, and have sometimes cooperated with each other, they remain distinct.
The much ballyhooed "contacts" between al-Qaida and the Saddam regime consisted of meetings in which the two considered working together, but decided against it due to their opposed ideologies. (Al-Qaida is fundamentalist Sunni, while Saddam was a secularist, making him an "infidel dog", as Osama bin Laden put it.)
Otherwise, while Saddam Hussein was in power, al-Qaida stayed outside of the areas that he controlled. Records found after the invasion show that Saddam was actively attempting to capture al-Qaida members in order to turn them over to the Bush administration.
Al-Qaida proper, as opposed to AQI, still barely has a presence in Iraq.
When individuals like John McCain refer to "al-Qaeda", they do not mean al-Qaida, but rather AQI. For example, McCain has stated that "Al Qaeda is in Iraq. It's called 'Al Qaeda in Iraq.'" But contra McCain, AQI is not al-Qaida, and while AQI is in Iraq, al-Qaida is not in Iraq.
For clarity's sake, I suggest referring to al-Qaida as al-Qaida, and referring to al-Qaida in Iraq as AQI.
Jewdini June 1st, 2008 5:13 pm -- "... the most barbarically backward culture on the planet ..."
Hmmmm. I guess some fundamentals of anthropological colonialism will never die, at least not amongst "proud jewish zionists".
JLOVER
most of the world hadn't heard of bin laden or al qaida............
Sampson, yes, as a proud jewish zionist I am happy to say that Obama is another one who isn't fooled by the pro-arab idiocy of you so-called "progressives". I don't understand how on earth people who support the most barbarically backward culture on the planet can call themselves "progressives", but that's for another post.
vox, tactically you make some great points. However, it doesn't mean terrorists cannot be defeated, we simply need to tae a page out of their operational manual and fight them on their own terms. Unfortunately, this doesn't make defense contractors as much money...
Little Brother has the right mythical language for describing our strange encounter with the Middle Eastern mind set. Osama bin Laden once said something to the effect that al Q'aeda is precisely America's shit coming back at us. The idea is a bit subtle, a bit Hegelian for our realists to grasp. Fear objectified is peril. Materialist America has entered a spiritual battleground, and we are not at home there. We chase terrorists like my dog chases sea gulls on the beach. We occupy their "strongholds" like you occupy smoke. They don't build forts or drive tanks or field armies. They are without location. They don't care if they die. We have no weapons against such things as these. It is in fact our weapons which have given shape to these new ghostly enemies.
Among the major reasons for the invasion of Iraq was likely the perception that we had been tricked into swatting at thin air in Afghanistan, and were on the verge of looking foolish with our useless bombs and our antiquated WWII rhetoric. Better to choose an enemy like Saddam with a chest full of fake medals and a fortified palace - a flesh and blood enemy like Mussolini or The Penguin
bush and mccain attacked obama...saying he is like a nazi appeaser (we all know who they were talking about)...but when you look at the reality on the ground in iraq....bush and mccain are the real appeasers...BUSH'S(MCCAIN'S TOO) FOREIGN POLICY ACTUALLY HAS APPEASED ALQAIDA....it has made al'qaida and iran stronger in the middle east....back in 2001 most americans never even heard of bin laden or al'qaida......
one only has to look at the resistance movement in europe during world war two to appreciate the fact that not many people of any 'occupied' territory will just lie down and take it...........
During the Saddam era, Ben Laden and Al-Qaida were completely locked out of Iraq. Saddam viewed such religious fundamentalists as a serious threat to their rule and stomped on them ruthlessly.
If they looked at Iraq today in comparison, I doubt they are feeling too bad about how things are going.
What Fisk points out is how the US Mil and its supporters use the wrong metrics for measuring success. They talk about how many people they've killed, dissapeared or tortured, or use strange words like 'disrupting' its operations (which only makes sense if you think of Al-Qaida as another beuracracy like the US mil) and tell us how they are winning.
Mr. Fisk points out that the misery and oppression and the hatred that we create while 'winning' is what powers and builds Al-Qaida and makes it stronger.
Look at Al-Qaida in Iraq 6 or 7 years ago versus Iraq today, and there's no doubt about which way things are going. The US Mil can keep 'winning' right up till the moment they've lost.
On 1-21-09, Obama will be continuing the exact same policies as usual. He's given several speeches to AIPAC confirming this.
Don't be fooled by a switchover in puppets.
Am I alone in finding this stuff infantile to the point of madness?
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I presume the question is rhetorical, and I rather doubt that Mr Fisk peruses these comments-- but the answer is a resounding "no".
The withdrawing of Fulbright scholarships is the latest, though not the greatest, outrage in the Reich of Zion's illegal and abhorrent policy and practice of collective punishment.
What is worse is the typically tidy, antiseptic manner in which this outrage is perpetrated by the authorities-- the tyrannous Amerikan-Zion Combine acts as though it was simply discovered that there were some technical details that unfortunately rendered awarding the scholarships to Palestinians inappropriate. So they'll just have to award them where they'll do some good, and afterwards look into whether there's any way to improve the status quo for next year. Sorry about that!
I recently came across an even more insignificant example of the Zionist Final Solution in action: a Palestinian blogger writes, simply and humbly, without venom or malice, that he works in Israel, but that his application to the Zionist authorities (my phrase, not his) for a work permit has been consistently denied. The authorities will not explain why the request is being denied, despite his persistent plea to them to inform him of what he needs to do to obtain this permit.
This fellow, whom I find entirely credible, has no affiliation with political groups, much less terrorists; even the blog he posts to is not his own-- someone outside the Middle East shares her blog with him. He has been advised by his Israeli employer, who vouches for him, to obtain a lawyer to continue his quest for a work permit. But he must save up to afford a lawyer, and these are hardly flush times in the occupied territories. (Frankly, I wonder if the very fact that he posts occasionally on a blog accessible world-wide about life in the occupied territories is the elusive reason his permit is being denied-- regardless of the fact that his comments are never malicious or in any way incendiary.)
Yes, Mr Fisk, it is mordantly amusing but galling that Amerika appears unable to transcend primitive lizard-brained conceptualizing and thinking. Our President Unitard responded to the events of 9/11/01 (aka 11/9/01) by expounding a comic-book version of reality in which Amerika, the treacherously attacked and wounded Hero among nations, would hunt down Osama bin Laden and al-Qa'ida as if Osama were Pancho Villa and his banditos, or Jesse James and his gang-- or, more accurately, as if Osama were a comic-book villain like Lex Luthor or the villain in a James Bond flick.
Our leaders broadcast a simple-minded script: the criminal gang had fled to their mountain hideout, Hole-in-the-Wall, and by God, the best-equipped and dedicate posse in the world was going after them! Tragically, much of Amerika's unsophisticated and ignorant yahoos ate up this arrant nonsense as if the Unitard were NY Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia reading the funny papers over the radio during the Great Depression.
Almost a decade later-- well, not quite yet, it only seems longer-- the same heinous gang of genocidal, imperialistic criminals are spewing the same nonsense. I fear that when such fatuous and puerile judgements are expressed by persons in high office, an under-educated and thus easily-gulled public still swallows them first and asks questions much later, if at all. Especially when self-serving mountebanks like General Petraeus, glittering with ribbons and medals, and sitting as though he has a poker rammed well up his alimentary canal, throws his shoulders back and resolutely engages in whatever mendacity is necessary to advance his career and please his masters.
A phantom "victory" against a phantom "enemy". Brought to you by the most reprehensible gang of wraiths who ever traded their souls for Rings of Power.
As Robert Fisk must know, the horrendous suicide bombings directed against civilians in Iraq and elsewhere, carried out with bin Laden and Zawahiri's endorsement, has lost their movement a lot of support. In addition, American military and intelligence action has disrupted their organization. This does not mean the US has won, or does not face a continuing threat of terror attacks from al Qaeda and its imitators. What it does mean is that bin Laden and Zawahiri have not achieved their goals.
Instead, Iran has emerged as the stronghold of defiance to the West. Iraq will liberate itself, probably as an imperfect democracy, with the support of Iran and the withdrawal of US troops under a new administration. Most Muslims are less interested in a Sunni-Shiite civil war than they are in getting out from under the Americans and US-client tyrants.
Fisk probably poses the right questions at the end of this piece. The ideological legacy of al Qaeda may be more dangerous in Washington and London than in Baghdad.
Thank God for the wonderful work of Robert Fisk and a handful of other true patriots.
If Israel would stop the agressive stealing of Arab land most of the problems there would hopefully begin to go away.
I can't wait until 1-20-09 and looking forward to seeing Georgie the utter coward and his friends at the Hague.
Perhaps the only sensible, political thing to do for the victor in November would be to call in the joint chiefs and give them an order to "reassess" the situation in Iraq. That order should make it clear to them that the only "acceptable finding" (if they wish to retire with their current rank intact) is a finding that "the military/political mission has already been lost and was lost more than a year ago and nothing can be done to save it." This way an immediate withdrawal of all troops could be made and the "defeat" would be clearly blamed on the Bush administration by the military.
Since al-Qa'ida may have been founded in Washington, DC with funding and support from the CIA the only way a great football team name is going away is when, generally speaking, the human race is sophisticated enough to reason beyond the simplistic concept of win or lose, in the context of other common human motivators.
Fisk is unfortunetly right on the money with this one. Claiming that al-queda is "almost defeated" is the stupidest thing Hayden could have possibly done, since al-queda might very well exist in one form or another for decades to come. They might not have serious operational capability, but you best believe they'll put out video afetr video just to make hayden look like an idiot.
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