Kucinich Starts New Impeachment Drive
Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio may get excluded from Democratic presidential debates, as he has been recently, but no one can deny him the floor in the House. 
And today Mr. Kucinich took to the floor to fire off his latest salvo at the Bush administration: his plans to introduce Articles of Impeachment against President Bush on Jan. 28 - the day of Mr. Bush’s State of the Union speech.
Accusing the administration of lying about the need for the war in Iraq, Mr. Kucinich said he did not need to hear the president’s
assessment. “We know the State of the Union,” he declared. “It’s a lie.”
He also fired a volley at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California
who has maintained that impeaching Mr. Bush is not on the table for Congressional Democrats. “If impeachment is off the table,” Mr. Kucinich said, “truth is off the table. If truth is off the table
then this body is living a lie.”
Mr. Kucinich introduced Articles of Impeachment against Vice
President Dick Cheney last April and in November, with the surprise help of Republicans seeking to embarrass the Democrats, he nearly succeeded in securing an hour of debate on the House floor. House Democratic leaders blocked that, however, by referring the impeachment effort back to the Judiciary Committee.
Anti-Bush groups have been urging Mr. Kucinich to undertake an
effort to impeach the president.
Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company
any more o this, and dennis will secure my vote.
no question.
I am heading that way too. If every person in this country simply voted, but more importantly, actually voted their conscience, as opposed to voting from a place of fear and second bests, Kucinich would win in a landslide!
Thank you, Dennis. Impeach the SOB’s (and DOB’s), and that should only be the beginning.
But what confuses me (rhetorically) is Pelosi’s refusal to take up this issue. It’s almost as if she and the rest of the Democratic leadership are afraid that there own complicity will be brought out in an impeachment hearing.
Let’s be clear: Bush et al. are not the first to engage in high-level criminality, but they ARE the first to elevate to this magnitude. To uphold the Constitution, Pelosi et al. must impeach. To uphold the statutory law, impeachment must be followed by prosecution. We are compelled to do these things — it is not a matter of what any one leader deems is “off the table.”
Problem is, the NYT may have printed this, but did any other MSM outlet pick it up? Kucinich is getting the silent treatment by the MSM, shut out of the debates, ruled out in advance, and so on. The MSM tells us who is ‘electable’ and who isn’t. Either they are effective, or the electoral process is rigged–I’m not sure which… but I would agree, vote for Kucinich in the primaries.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/story/0,,2239540,00.html
I’m all for voting one’s conscience and Dennis is THE man.. but after reading the article in the link I am posting, I wonder why we even bother.
However, Dennis K is the only real human being left in Congress and I applaud his bravery and integrity. May the gods and angels watch over him because he is treading in dangerous waters by throwing a monkey wrench into the works by pressing for impeachment.
The Constitution does not make impeachment an option for the House of Representatives, it mandates it when the President has engaged in criminal acts. Pelosi is ignoring her promised commitment to uphold the constitution, which each elected official pledges to do when they take their oath. The question is “Why?”
Dennis is fighting for his political career, the corporate guns are going after his seat, saturating the media with lies and he has no money to counteract their ads. He is asking for financial support ASAP as the primary is in two weeks. This country is a democracy on the books but in reality a corporate dictatorship. Why hasn’t anyone noticed? Why do people still think we’re a free country? It takes a lot of courage to speak out if you’re going to get tasered. Freedom of speech has been redefined. We can speak out on CD where no one can hear us, but in public, keep your head down. That’s what it used to be like in the Soviet Union.
kathyodat
I admire Dennis as he acts more like a Statesman than a politician. His actions have nothing to do with politics. His actions have everything to do with trying to save this country.
Hoa binh
Kucinich remains the only candidate with the guts to stand up for this country against the cancer that is destroying it. He may be written off and censored by the corporate oligarchy but they can’t shut him up.
I agree Twister22 that Kucinich is treading in dangerous waters. He’s as outspoken against the war and the MIC as Martin Luther King was and looked what happened to him! But Kucinich is only admired by American intellectuals, which unfortunately make up a very small percentage of the populace. Most voters connect to the dog and pony acts of Obama and Hillary. Substance is not a major issue with most voters, so therefore he doesn’t pose a real threat to corporate America as long as they keep him out of the public eye and continue to dismiss him as ‘unelectable’.
I sent Dennis a contribution the day he filed impeachment papers against Cheney. I will do the same when he goes after Bush.
He’s by far the best man for the job.
The reason Pelosi has said impeachment is off the table is because Hillary told her to. You see, if Bush and Cheney get impeached then they will be replaced by moderate Republicans that a lot of people might be able to stomach after dealing with Bush/Cheney for over 7 years. This would be a huge threat to Hillary’s bid for the presidency. It is logical to assume that whatever Republicans succeed Bush/Cheney, they would be chosen to run on the Republican ticket in 2008. Therefore, it was imperative that Nancy–who owes Ms. Hillary a great deal of gratitude for promoting her into the House Speaker position–not encourage any kind of impeachment as not to threaten Hillary’s big dream. The biggest influence is Hillary. There is no getting around, despite the fact that virtually no one likes her. Not even ardent feminists, like me. I think it would be as big a sham to have Hillary be the first woman president of the USA as it was to have Condi Rice be the first Black woman Secretary of State. They are all shameless, pathetic people with no real concern for humanity. I say that Dennis Kucinich is the bravest man on this planet right now because he is going up against the most powerfully corrupt government in modern times.
I am not a US citizen but I recently watched Dennis Kucinich on “Democracy Now” where Amy Goodman gave him a chance “to take part” in one of the election debates about financial oversight, foreign investment, campaign finance, how much White House policy is determined by “special interests” not by the will of the people; forcing colleges to tolerate military recruiters on campus (otherwise they get no federal grants)and who would bring all troops home - with no ifs or buts - from Iraq, etc.
He seemed to me very sincere and outspoken, no evading answers, no appeasement-tactics, no sucking up to certain “focus groups”…
I agree with your assessment: he seems to be the only really decent person among the candidates and as far as I can tell he has no obligations or ties to the corporate rulers…. but - paradoxically enough - herein lies the problem, doesn`t it?
Do you think we could all write in Dennis J. Kucinich AND Ron Paul?
Get him DK!!!! Obviously this will not make the front page of the Corporate Media (and we all know it should), but with yesterday’s exposure of the 956 lies leading to illegal war that made many of the online Corporate Media pages, maybe the momentum slowly will turn. Of course, Billary, Ocain, and others will try to stifle it. At first I was thinking of voting for Edwards, but I have to throw my support behind DK.
What really gets me about this article by the New York Times, is their ending line “Anti-Bush groups have been urging Mr. Kucinich to undertake an
effort to impeach the president.” - Anti-Bush groups? This kind of description on who is pushing for Impeachment is manipulative of the truth, once again by the media. I believe those pushing for Impeachment should be described as PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SHREDDING OF THE U.S. CONSTUTION ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT IT ARE PUSHING FOR IMPEACHMENT BECAUSE TO DO LESS PLACES OUR SHATTERED DEMOCRACY AT GREAT PERIL!!! THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION FOR HIGH CRIMES AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND WAR CRIMES AGAINST OTHER NATIONS AND THEIR PEOPLES. Once again, the times brings light to the matter, and then places it in shallow context of Bush haters. Please!!!
We need more Dennis’s in Congress and in the Presidency!
Go Green Dennis! Go Green! Join Cynthia Mckinney and begin to build a viable 3rd party!
It’s also likely that the Democrtaic leadership wants impeachment off the table because they’re drooling over the unconstitutional powers the Bush administration has given the executive branch.
Dennis Kucinich was interviewed recently by Craig? - I forget exactly. But in that interview Dennis revealed that after the 2004 elections when Democrats gained control of House and Senate (based on ending the war), just two months later the Democrats of both House and Senate had a secret meeeting where they voted to not pursue ending the war or Impeachment — in direct opposition to the voters mandate to them. Does that shed some light on Pelosi’s position?? Well now the list of supporters in Congress is growing, especially as elections are once again nearing, but it’s quite telling about their miserable excuses as to why they won’t impeach, isn’t it? Money, money, money — oil, oil, oil, power, power, power, hegemony, hegemony, hegemony — and the Democratic support. And by the way — Bill Clinton, and then George Bush (U.S. government) supported the war in the Congo so that hundreds of multi-national corporations of many western countries, including the U.S. can profit by raping that country of all its mineral wealth, which is currently claiming teh lives of 45,000 each month, now totaling 4.5 million people.
GO DENNIS—You have my vote every time this year if I have to write it in with a crayon. Just got a call from an Obama fundraiser and gave him an earful of Kucinich. If impeachment is not called for now, what catastrophe and/or crimes do we have to wait for? If Obama is the big open minded uniter, why hasn’t he got the guts to mention Kucinich’s deliberate exclusion from the corporate infomercials being called debates? Because none of the “big three” want to tarnish themselves with “The Left”—-and when they whore themselves to Dubuque, truth is finished as Dennis says, and we’re bound to get nothing but more of the same after The Bush Crime Family….GO DENNIS! Stop for NOTHING! And your numbers WILL rise with every primary to come…..
Now is the time to contact your Congressman & demand they support his action!
I agree with Demerara.
The day I read that Cynthia McKinney is going to be the Green Party candidate was the first day in a long time that I heard really good news coming out of America. You know already for sure that the other two parties are going to produce idiots anyway.
Alexnosal, twister22, Dennis is safe until he reaches near the influential leadership role that MLK reached when he was removed or until he is near nomination by the Dems as Bobby Kennedy was when he was eliminated. If Dennis ever got real close to nomination, he would be made a unwilling martyr for our movements–the system would protect itself from major change just like it always has.
Dennis (along with Edwards) has done a great job of educating the Dem front-runners of important issues through the debates and the early electioneering process. While H. Clinton is still a reliable Dem machine candidate, her rhetoric is different and better now compared with a year ago (to what extent her actions would be different is difficult to discern).
Hopefully the next congress will have more than one Cindy Sheehan in it and they can coordinate to get the ball rolling on a lot of issues.
“The reason Pelosi has said impeachment is off the table is because Hillary told her to. You see, if Bush and Cheney get impeached then they will be replaced by moderate Republicans that a lot of people might be able to stomach after dealing with Bush/Cheney for over 7 years. This would be a huge threat to Hillary’s bid for the presidency.”
myoichiama, a very astute remark and one I had not considered. Very plausible.
Do we dare to hope?
myoichiama says:
“The reason Pelosi has said impeachment is off the table is because Hillary told her to. You see, if Bush and Cheney get impeached then they will be replaced by moderate Republicans that a lot of people might be able to stomach after dealing with Bush/Cheney for over 7 years. This would be a huge threat to Hillary’s bid for the presidency.”
But, impechment does not mean removal from office, it is just a censure (slap on the wrist).
Now the media seem to be ignoring not just Kucinich but Edwards.
1) How can the concentration of ownership of our media be reversed? ALL newspapers, radio & TV stations should be locally owned and operated so they would no longer have excessive power to influence both the Congress and public opinion.
2) The League of Women Voters should be begged to take back the presentation and monitoring of candidate debates, and they should be broadcast on public TV.
3) We need public funding of all federal campaigns to free candidates from corporate influence.
4) Maybe members of the Senate who DO understand how much evil the dirty duo can do in their remaining year would be so kind as to force the impeachment issue.
(What evil might we avoid? The “agreement” to protect Iraq (or at least the oil companies to be located there when we get them to sign over their future via a “benchmark”) forever comes to mind. It’s not be called a “treaty” because then it would require approval by the Senate.)
Dennis Kucinich is the only honest Democrat left in that festering shithole that passes itself off as our government. Godspeed Dennis on your righteous path!
I will not vote for anyone who does NOT support impeachment!
Memo to myoichiama and marsh outlaw:
If impeached by the House, it is a very strong censure. If convicted by the Senate, Bush and Cheney would be replaced according to the Constitutional Amendment rule for succession: The Speaker of the House would become president (now Pelosi) and the new VP would be appointed by the new president, as was Ford by Nixon.
My dream: During the State of the Union Lies, DK leads a team of military officers and soldiers and bush and Cheney are handcuffed and shackled, lead off the chamber floor and imprisoned, awaiting indictment, trial and execution…forget about impeachment. They are guilty of a multitude of crimes against humanity and Mother Earth. It’s ALL there! WAKE UP AMERICA and smell the regime. DEMAND JUSTICE! CLEAR YOUR CONSCIENCE! THE TIME IS NOW!
margalo;
The better analogy would be Ford appointing Nelson Rockefeller as his VP after Nixon resigned - an unelected President appointing an unelected VP.
Go, Dennis, Go! You are on the right path and this is why you have secured my vote! You are the moral leadership of this country and anybody who denies that doesn’t give a fig for democracy.
And anybody who says a vote for you is a wasted vote is full of horse manure (well, I know, I could use profanity here without fear of censorship, but, hey, this might be a family show, after all!). Vote for Dennis, vote for democracy, vote for America, vote for peace, vote for moral leadership, but for chrissakes, VOTE FOR DENNIS!!!!!!
I wouldn’t vote Repub if my life depended on it. All the mainstream Dem candidates look like Repubs to me. My choice is clearly to write in DK for President. For VP, I’m not so sure. I like Ron Paul’s guts, but see above. He’s a Repub.
And after the selection in November, I’ll have a clear conscience. Anyone who accuses me of losing the election for the Dems will be dealt with as they deserve.
Make your choice now. When you do, all this campaigning is revealed for what it is: a very expensive dog and pony show.
Here is part of Chris Hedges recent inteview with Kucinich, in which he talks about the secret vote within Democratic party after 2004 elections, where the Dems gained control of both House and Senate on an end of the war platform (they betrayed that promise — one month later, the Democrats voted to keep funding the war:
Kucinich: There is no other Democrat who is advocating a not-for-profit system. I am the only one, and I am the only one with a plan and I am the coauthor of the bill and I have been involved in this for years. In 2000 I took this plan to the Democratic Platform Committee with a group of people from California including Gloria Allred, Tom Hayden, Lila Garret. We offered it. But we were asked not to even offer it by the Gore campaign because that it would be a slap in the face to the interests that were helping the campaign. In 2004 I offered the same proposal to the platform committee and it was rejected again. Now, if there is any issue that the Democratic Party could establish itself on, in the same way FDR established the Democratic Party with the New Deal, the Democratic Party as a party could reestablish as a party of workers and small business in a single stroke by standing firmly as a party for single-payer, not-for-profit health care. The party refuses to do it. There are 83 members of the House that have signed onto the bill HR 676, but the fact that the Congress … I was the coauthor of the bill. … Here again this is one of those areas as president my positions run contrary to the rest of the Democratic field, but also my own party.
Hedges: What about the war? This is what gave the Democrats control again.
Kucinich: No question about it.
Hedges: And yet they have failed. That was their mandate.
Kucinich: Look at this: In October of 2002 the Democrats counseled in a telephone conference with our leaders in which we were told that the election of 2006 was about three things: Iraq, Iraq and Iraq. The ads attacking Republicans were replete with references to the war and the Democrats sensed from the polls indicating a shift in public opinion against the war, campaigned against the war, elected House and Senate because of the war, and yet it wasn’t one month after that victory was achieved because of the war that the Democrats gathered in a conference and declared that as a party we were going to continue to fund the war.
Hedges: Why?
Kucinich: The ostensible reason given was to support our troops, which is so transparent a dodge that it borders on the obscene. I walked out of that meeting and knew I had to run for president again. I knew it.
Hedges: When was that meeting?
Kucinich: The second week of December, maybe the 6th or the 8th, somewhere in there.
Hedges: To what do you attribute this decision? It has to be counterproductive to Democratic interests.
Kucinich: I think there has been a serious loss of confidence in the Democratic Party over the last year. It has been interpreted as a decline of confidence in Congress, but in truth, since the Democrats took control of Congress, it’s a decline of confidence in the Democratic Party itself.
Hedges: Why did they lose their nerve?
Kucinich: One of the things you have to remember, and this is where … I don’t think anyone has done this research … but it is my impression that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the Democratic primaries in 2006 more often than not opted to support candidates who were either neutral or supported the war. You have two waves here. You have the primary, of going for candidates who were either neutral or supported the war. Most of them won their primaries. And then you had the next wave, which was an anti-war wave. … The paradox was that a Democratic Congress was elected that was less congenial to ending the war than the Congress before it. Most people don’t understand that. How that could happen? Now, that doesn’t mean, however, that the leaders would have to follow that direction. The leaders could say, “Look, we are going in a new direction.” You have to remember what happened to the Democrats in 2002. It was Dick Gephardt who stood next to George Bush and gave him the OK for war. Most people thought the Democrats OK’d the war. Well, in the House they didn’t. Two-thirds of the Democrats in the House voted against the war. I know because I led the effort. In the Senate they could have stopped it because they controlled the Senate. They didn’t do it. You had Edwards and Clinton in the Senate at the time and Biden and Dodd. Any one of them could have held up the war. They didn’t do it. They all went in with it.
Nancy H,
I think you should send your rant to the NYT, well said!
Democratic voters have to ask themselves.
What have Hillary or Obama done in standing up to Bush and his Policies, besides whining and complaining?
The two have shown absolutely no Senate leadership whatsoever. What makes anyone think they can lead the Executive Branch, and simultaniously wield influence on the House PLUS the Senate?
They, like Bush, can’t take responsibilty for anything. It’s always someone elses fault, there’s always a scapegoat, it’s always blaming something else.
That will be why we’ll never leave Iraq - at least thats what they will say publically. Hillary or Obama in 2008-2017 is a vote for Permanent Presence in Iraq, so throw that issue out the window. They Will withdraw like 10-20,000 troops, which will really just take us back to pre-surge levels 2003-2006 130,000K. Still want to build that massive base, the massive airfields, and the large “embassy.”
And that’s what we should be most concerned with. A fake democratic administration, drawing down an insignificant number of troops, and democrat voters erroniously hailing it as a victory, or move in the right direction despite the fact that massive numbers will remain in Iraq permanently. And they’ll be full of excuses, I can hear them already… “Well, if Bush hadn’t done such a poor job.” “Well, thanks to Bush we can’t really leave.” “Well we need to leave some (hundreds of thousands) troops because terrorists might takeover.” “Well, if it was a republican administration, we would also have 130K+ troops in Iraq.” “At least the democrats are trying.” “At least it’s not Bush.” Wrong attitude.
Quite pathetic if you put in out there and listen to it. Do you want another 4 years of the government making excuses, pretending to be on your side? Also, who wants to see democratic voters under the great illusion that things have changed, when they in fact have not changed at all - and couple that with the fact that they will stubbornly insist things are getting better?
Iraq,
Iran,
War on Terror,
Health Care,
Health Insurance,
Energy “Independance,”
Economy/costs of living,
White Collar and Corperate crime,
Civil Liberties & Free Speech,
Domestic Spying,
Domestic Harassment,
Torture,
State Information and Media control,
and ultimately NO accountability NOR responsibility.
If any of the afforementioned issues are important to you, voting for Hillary or Obama it essentially voting for no change, and rather to continue the same policies of the Bush admin.
Despite all the cries “Well Bush is out, that’s a step in the right direction.”
You can delude yourself for the next 4-8 years if you want. Your choice.
Dennis is the bravest of all the candidates; willing to against all odds stand up for impeachment. Now if only the people who believe in what he is doing would be brave enough to support him with their dollars and their votes. This “yeah I like what he says but, he isn’t electable” thing is way old. How do people think he might become electable? If the boomers don’t step up and do it the opportunity may not return. The evil tide of corporate domination must be stemmed. Vote for Dennis. Support impeachment of Bush and Chaney now. Talk it up with your neighbors, email all your friends, contact your senators and representatives telling them to support the Kucinich proposal and Dennis in the primary.
LadyBug,
Point taken, sent comment to NYT Editor.
Yes, by all means, impeach Bush and Cheney, armchair militarists, murderers, torturers, enemies of the Constitution, traitors, outers of a CIA operative, corporate-welfare donors, socialists for the rich…
And then send them to The Hague for crimes against humanity.
Kucinich is the last human being left in Congress. He is the mensch to vote for.
All the other ones could pretty much be replaced by computers programmed by the corporations and the armament industry.
Look at Dennis fight against his own party in pursuit of justice.
Tell me, why do any of you alleged liberals who frequest this site vote for democrats?
Really, why?
whatfools, you said: Do you think we could all write in Dennis J. Kucinich AND Ron Paul?
It’s a shame that such a thing seems so unlikely. The distance between them is way less then the distance from them to the band of front-runnin’ criminals on either site. Any point of compromise between the two of them would be so much better than any other choice that’s being offered up.
I’d love to see them hook up as an independant ticket. Or form some new party with some name that means “the not-out-to-get-you” party. Anything to get their words and ideas into people’s living rooms. The Odd Couple Party.
Dennis is great when he gets pissed…a fantastic congressman.
If he keeps it up he will get re elected and the world needs him in congress … Forever!
As the radical who is gettin tough js just as important as runnin for president. We are lucky he is still with us.
I think Liberals vote for Dems because of guys like Dennis.
Come to think of it, a third party now would really be only the second party.
wouldnt you love a Kucinich/Mckinney ticket?!
I know i would. Wouldnt you love the entire Bush Crime Family in front of a f**ing squad?
Back in reality, neither of those things are going to happen.
I said it yesterday on another thread and I’ll say it here, GWB could walk out of the White House onto PA avenue and shoot anybody he wanted with hundreds of eye witnesses, and not a damn thing would become of it.
Lets face it people,theres a now famous Boston Globe article entitled “Over 750 laws Broken” and counting. It lists over 750 constitutional laws violated by Bush et al, guess what nothing is ever going to be done about it.
And for all of you “conspiracy theorists” out there, you know althat talk about illuminati and shadow governments? Who do you think that they have been referring to? Its been the Bush Crime Family for nearly a century pulling all the strings. Thats why they aint held accountable for nothing people.
Here is a little proof that corporate media’s attempt to keep Dennis Kucinich out of the race (and others like him), is working.
Last night my mother and I were on the phone long distance and found ourselves discussing the US presidential election and more specifically the war of words between the leading Democratic candidates.
My mother, 67, retired but with an interest in US politics because she lived there as a teen and still has family down there (we’re Canadians) was aware of John Edwards but had never herd of Dennis Kucinich!
She knew all the details about Bill, excuse me I meant Hillary and Obama, and McCain
If the media truly covered the NEWS they would be all over DK because what he has to say IS NEWS WORTHY!
Imagine, a candidate talking about the forbidden topics, you know, impeachment and stuff like that.
Debating whether Bill is blacker than Obama is a deversion - race or racism - instead of the real issues - illeagle accupations - oil wars, etc.
How many candidates (all parties, opps, I mean both parties) are currently talking ABOUT IMMEDIATELY leaving Iraq? (maybe a multinational UN peace keeping force paid for by US)
How many will immediately usher in universal public health care? (which we are barely hanging onto in Canada because we have lyers and greedy people up here too)
How many candidates acknowlege that the same people who own the media stand to gain the most by maintaining the status quo of a military complex that sucks the life blood out of your nation to build….. more WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION?
Everyone who is on board with this stellar effort needs to find ways to at least help keep this couragious American patriot in the House of Representatives. On Jan 22 he announced that he is running for re-election in the House, and the slime machine is revving up to sock it to him on that front, also. Even if you have contributed the maximum amount to his presidential campaign you are still allowed to contribute to his House campaign. Go to www.kucinich.us to find out more.
If you are serious about impeachment–and we all should be DEADLY serious about it–then we should all be calling our congressperson’s office frequently to ask if the congressperson has signed on yet to Kucinich’s and Wexler’s efforts. My congressman–Markey –is having a meeting on Feb 3rd at which many of us will show up demanding that he fulfil constitutional duty to impeach Bush/Cheney.
If we support Kucinich, we have to put our money where our mouths are! He can’t get his message out, or even get re-elected, without funds for basic operating expenses. And like it or not, the MSM measure his “importance” by the amount of money sent to him, which in turn influences Party operatives. I’ve donated three times so far. Don’t wait until it’s too late—he needs money NOW. Please vote with your wallet, NOW!
Giant red headline on CNN Dennis Kucinich drops out of race…very likely most CNN readers don’t even know who they’re talking about…
Kucinich rocks in NH. See YouTube.
Equally good oration and delivery as Obama.
Dennis should add Pelosi to his list.
A number of commenters have said to post in The New York
Times. I tried to do just that. Post an opinion in support
of DK. It was not published. Reason being the NYT is part
and parcel of the problem as is the whole of MSM.
Cynthia McKinney for President. Kucinich VP?
Kucinich abandons White House bid AP via Yahoo! News - 7 minutes ago
NUTS! Send Dennis some money and join the Green Party anyway. This is going to be a long long battle to get free of AIPAC.
Dennis Just anounced that hes stoping his run to be president. A sad day. Texrey
bakunin January 24th, 2008 3:58 pm
“If you are serious about impeachment–and we all should be DEADLY serious about it–then we should all be calling our congressperson’s office frequently to ask if the congressperson has signed on yet to Kucinich’s and Wexler’s efforts. My congressman–Markey –is having a meeting on Feb 3rd at which many of us will show up demanding that he fulfil constitutional duty to impeach Bush/Cheney.”
Ah, but that’s the rub. I *am* serious about impeachment, but calling my congressman would do absolutely no good. I’m certain of it. His head is so far up the president’s butt that he has a crap collar around his neck. His name? John Boehner.
I just heard that Dennis Kucinich will abandon his run for president. If true, this represents the very end of the last hope for America. If he is still on the ballot on Super Tuesday, I will still cast my vote for him. If he is not on the ballot, I will write him in. I am so depressed. I live in a country that drops atomic bombs on innocent civilians, murders its own president (Kennedy), invades multiple innocent countries and lies about the reasons why, conducts false flag operations like the Bay of Tonkin and 9/11 (which I personally believe was supervised by our own Vice President Cheney), arrests without warrant and tortures. We are a true fascist state and my mind is dizzy thinking of all the atrocities we will soon commit under the name of the next bought-and-paid-for president. We have lost our last hope for a change of direction. I predect that in four years you will not recognize this country by today’s standards.
For Willybill: You have got it all right except that these creeps should be taken outside and in front of the entire world hanged with all derision.
You are so right. Orez!
I am really sad that Kucinich droped out but I don’t blame him. it was a very long shot. At least he will have more time to impeaching the Bushinator now!
From the NYTimes article:
“Anti-Bush groups have been urging Mr. Kucinich to undertake an effort to impeach the president.”
Shouldn’t that read:
“Pro-Democracy groups have been urging Mr. Kucinich to undertake an effort to impeach the president.”
???
Let us at least help keep Dennis in Congress.
http://kucinich.us/contribute.html
DK needs your help staying IN congress…
“I want to thank you for your support of our efforts to end the war, to create a not-for-profit healthcare system and take America in a new direction, so that we can have a government we can truly call our own. In connection with that, as you know, I’m running for re-election to the United States Congress and I need your help to make sure that I stay in Congress.
Right now I’m under attack by corporate interests, most of them from the city of Cleveland, who have an agenda that has nothing to do with the people of my community, nor with most people in this country. And so what I’m asking you to do is to help me stay in Congress, so that I can continue to represent the people of my community, the state of Ohio and the United States of America.
I need you, right now, to go to that page on my website, www.kucinich.us where you can contribute online, or send a check or phone in a contribution. “
“If impeachment is off the table,” Mr. Kucinich said, “truth is off the table. If truth is off the table
then this body is living a lie.”
Yup - they certainly are! And the majority in this country are still living in “la-la” land.
And he’s NOT endorsing any other demo-rat. I’m not either.Fuck em, they had thier chance. Now the little bulldog can get busy throwin the decider out. Go Dennis. Wow ,I just turned green. Must be the tobacco. Well there goes a STATESMAN. Something the other wanna bees, wanna be. You know, H.O.E There goes a true patriot. OOps there goes TRIAL LAWYER Eddy next. Sorry, I could’nt resist. My dream is willybills, and I think Dennis can do it. It is truly a sad day, but maybe his place at this time, is in the big room. He’s still sluggin it out for us. I’ll bet you wont here this on FuXnewz or in your daily rag. Good luck everybody. Thanks Texrey
leobixby January 24th, 2008 11:00 am
“If every person in this country simply voted, but more importantly, actually voted their conscience, as opposed to voting from a place of fear and second bests, Kucinich would win in a landslide!”
Leo,
You are absolutely right. Sadly, though, the minds of most people have been sucked-up in the MSM (mind-warp) Tornado that’s been traveling non-stop across this country for decades.
Conscience and Passion - two of our most human qualities have been replaced by brainwashing and material delights; and ignorance will remain blissful until the majority have lost everything they have ever worked for. Reality will undoubtedly rear its ugly head within the next year when it will have been too late.
The brainwashed are in for a rude awakening!
I just read that Kucinich pulled out of the race…
Goodbye, Dennis, we hardly new ye.
We need to march on the State of the Union, after he introduces Articles of Impeachment…
http://peacecandidates.com/blog/nadia/01/24/kucinich_introduce_impeachment
concerning DK’s announcement to quit the pres’ race, i strongly suspect that ‘they’ threatened to harm members of his family. DK is dangerous to them as a potential lightning rod for an explosive write-in movement.
DK also has to protect his seat in the House. It indeed, is sad that he is dropping out of the POTUS race. I will still write him in. But once he is reelected, maybe he will be able to fully concentrate his efforts pursuing impeachment of Cheney and Bush and not have to worry about speeches, fundraising, etc. Nonetheless, as many of you have pointed out, he does resemble a true statesman. It is unfortunate that he has to be part of the Dimocrap Party.
wake up you stupid ’sheeples’ flood your arrogant greedy paid off congressmen/women
to IMPEACH this drunk, today!
a precedent needs to be set
Nixon’s crimes were nothing compared to the bush family’s crap
cut his Mom’s head off first in public like they do in Saudi
revolution comes
the Mexicans want Texas back
It’s a sad testament to our “democracy” that Dennis dropped out today. All the so-called progressives who deemed him unelectable should hang their heads in shame.
That said, he needs financial help to keep his seat in Congress. We desperately need him–who else has the courage he has shown in the face of all this ridicule and adversity? Pony up progressives. Kucinich.us
When I heard my computer pinging away, I didn’t know what had happened. After last night watching the video of Dennis, I was so astounded, he had had enough! He spoke for us and the finality of what this country has come to was overwhelming for him. I feel as if he knew prceding doing what he did, he knew he was not running. I will still write him in, always intended to do that, only man actually REPRESENTING the Citizens of this, whatever we have become.
Only difference in so far as after bush et al are hauled away, not in handcuffs, those cheesy plastic electrical ties they use during mass arrests, TRIED, CONVICTED, SENTENCED at a ‘BLACK SITE’ of the PEOPLES choosing…
U.S. to Insist Iraq Grant It Wide Mandate in Operations
With its international mandate in Iraq set to expire, the
Bush administration will insist that the government in
Baghdad give the United States broad authority to conduct
combat operations and guarantee civilian contractors immunity
from Iraqi law, according to administration and military
officials.
From the NYT, and Pakistan, too. WTF.
“We know the State of the Union,” he declared. “It’s a lie.”
Heh heh. Kucinich is on fire. Send him to the White House. We’re gonna help him crank up the wind/solar turbines. We’re gonna help him turn K St. into a ghost town. We’re going online with our direct democracy internet site DIRECT.GOV. The people will be the “deciders” from now on. Heh heh heh.
For all those of you who are surprised by Kucinich’s drop from the Presidential race, all I can say is are you kidding? The media treat him like a freak, the majority of democrats are too moderate to support him, and in 2004 he seemed to be running to get people to switch from the Green Party to the Dems. Then at the 2004 Dem convention, all the delegates he had simply changed their vote for Kerry, without getting “End the War in Iraq” on the platform like he said they would. What a hoax.
All his talk is great but without support from either the Dems or Greens it means nothing. If he doesn’t lose his seat this year I will be surprised, he may very well end up like Cynthia McKinney and maybe run for president in 2012 under the “G” label.
That’s where it’s at people…don’t bother hoping the dems will make any huge changes in this country without a serious threat to their power establishment from a serious third party. Think about it - abolition, child labor laws, better working conditions, social security and labor unions would not have come about if third parties had not pushed for them. Join us, won’t you? www.gp.org
I just can’t believe this—Kucinich just starting to show up in the primaries and he drops out. He could have been a conscience in debates, a spoiler, at least an embarrassment to the hacks being foisted on us….Just can’t believe it, Dennis. Well, I’m STILL writing his name on every ballot I cast. Question: Having heard that “4 other Dimocraps” are running against DK for his seat in Congress, is the DNC going to punish him with full abandonment now? Knowing that snob Pelosi, I’ll bet they will, and that they’ll pour money into the most spineless dick they can find among the field….Well (again), EVEN LOCKED OUT, YOU SHOWED THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE, DENNIS!
OREZ_ENO: If he is still on the ballot on Super Tuesday, I will still cast my vote for him. If he is not on the ballot, I will write him in.
OREZ_ENO, no need for fear or depression. We are all endowed with a great power - people power - to do exactly like you said - ignore the ballot and WRITE IN the candidate who represents our principles - the progressive candidate - the anti-capitalist candidate - the candidate who serves the society’s better interests - and we can also vote our better interests in our general exchange/association - “be the change you wish to see” - enjoy the benefits NOW!!!
WHat about a Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul Debate???
Dennis needs to keep his seat in the House. Everyone should pitch in and help him. Honesty in government has it’s price. We need to pay it.
One guy, only one guy has the courage to do his job. Therefore he is abnormal. Kucinich does not belong in congress, he doesn’t understand his role there. He actually thinks congress persons should work for the people. But the people think he sucks. If Kucinich really wanted to be president, he would try to please the people. C’mon Dennis learn to say: “Bomb,bomb, bomb Iran!”. Try it, you’ll like it! It’s fun!! That’s how you get votes Dennis.
January 24th, 2008.
A day that should live on in infamy as the day democracy was legally dead. It took hundreds of high priced Wall Street and K Street lawyers, but the final blow was delivered as Dennis Kucinich was forced to retire.
Dennis Kucinich. The only candidate who advocated universal health care for 47 million uninsured and 200 million under insured.
Dennis Kucinich. The only candidate who spoke out, voted against and cried out for sanity from day one of the Neo-Con quagmire known as Iraq.
Dennis Kucinich. The only candidate who had no corporate backing by the Medical and Military Industrial complexes or Big Oil or… ultimately… the Big Media.
But most importantly the only candidate from either party who most represented the basic ideals of 90% of Americans was denied a voice in the national political arena before we even got going. That’s why officially democracy died today in my eyes.
I hope that the twenty fourth of January (or twenty-four one if you prefer?) lives on in my memory for the next four years as the band marches on.
Sorry Dennis. 61 years is a long time to wait. All I can do is hope that you’re around in four years from now when the same electoral farce is repeated.
From all those who would have voted for you as well as the millions who would have voted for you IF…, you have our sympathy, our respect and our admiration.
Now at least you can concentrate on getting those criminals brought to justice! Good luck and God Bless!
Well said Mr. Kucinich. Lies abound everywhere we turn. That is the beginning of wisdom.
Look - there’s something very simple we all can do - call our representative and tell them we would like *them* to represent *us* by supporting Mr. Kucinich’s initiative here. Pick up the phone preferably, or send email. Just don’t do nothing.
935 lies told by Bush and his staff prior to Iraqi Invasion/Occupation?! - if the news of this study doesn’t put impeachment back on the table…….Impeachment of Pelosi should be the next step.
I think we can all also express displeasure at the Democratic leadership as well in the same breath.
Thank you Dennis for having the GUTS to stand up for what so many of us believe should happen. I can’t believe that more of congress isn’t stepping up to accelerate this wave of opportunity. Now is the time.
So DK withdrew—what the hell did any of us expect? The Dems abandoned him—not a peep when he was forced out of the NV debate, not a peep when Texas refused to put him on the ballot because he refused to sign a loyalty oath. So lets see…. The MSM refuses to include him in debates, he can’t get on ballots, his money is almost gone ( not that he had that much) because he’s had to sue NBC to try to let the American people hear a dissenting voice, and now try to fund a recount in NH to try to expose the risk of Electronic voting and vote counting, but DAMN!!!!! He should still be there representing us??? Spare me!
The powerful elit in this country had effectively silenced him as a candidate, and anyone on this forum demanding change who whined for months that he couldn’t win blah blah blah—well you sure showed him he couldn’t. And guess what? He isn’t endorsing ANY of the candidates so those of you who implied he was in this to keep us “real lefties” in the DEM ranks—well, sorry but you might just have to eat your words. Am I pissed???? You bet. Another real patriot ridiculed, ignored and now out of the running. There is no one left to save this Titanic of a nation.
Let’s see, Clinton got impeached for lying about getting a BJ versus a lie that got us into a death-laden quagmire called Iraq. Wow - which is worse ? - real rocket science needed here.
DK gone!
Fell on Black Days (by Sound Garden)
Whatsoever I’ve feared has
Come to life
Whatsoever I’ve fought off
Became my life
Just when everyday
Seemed to greet
Me with a smile
Sunspots have faded
And now I’m doing time
Cause I fell on
Black days
Great person and heard his wife here last week in the Central Valley, would make a great first lady. DK speaks the truth, which is why networks want his voice silenced and continue to feed us mock Hillary/Barack clash, B Spears, and the GOP retreads. End the occupation, support the troops and bring them home now. The main issue is the Iraq Occupation for 2008.
Even if this effort of his and his co-sponsors ends up not getting impeachment hearings held, it’s still important, so this article about Kucinich introducing impeachment against Bush on Jan. 28th is good news. Am very glad to learn of this.
And while he was the best candidate for the next presidency, it’s no disappointment that he’s withdrawn from the race. After all, everyone knows the ruling elites and msm, corp. “news” media definitely don’t want him or anyone nearly like him for U.S. president, and these are the deciders of who gets to be APPOINTED to the presidency.
Kucinich surely realises the latter is reality-U.S.A., so it’s not disappointing that he’s withdrawn. And it’s great that he wants to be reelected to Congress.
HOPEFULLY, voters won’t let the nation and world down by voting him out of Congress. Americans are stupid and sadistic enough to do this, but they hopefully won’t in this and other cases of good candidates.
At least the ruling elites slack off for elections for seats of Congress and the Senate; allowing voters some real opportunity to decide who they want to represent them. The ruling elites have nothing to fear, knowing that most of Congress and the Senate consist of representatives of … NOT The People but the ruling elites anyway.
Allowing voters that and lower-level opportunities to decide who’s elected does unfortunately work out unfavourably; it allows the voters to think that even the U.S. president is elected BY The People, instead of actually being orchestrated by the “hidden” ruling elites. Not having that reality for the other elected positions makes it more difficult for voters to realise that they do not decide who becomes president, that the U.S.A. really is NOT a democracy but a false and pretty much totally corrupted (criminally, …) one.
If that is not what happens with voters, then it sure does seem to likely happen.
Hence, I think Kucinich is making a good decision, and hope he’s reelected to Congress. BETTER BE!
The contemptible corporate media will treat Dennis with contempt and just ignore him yet again.
We’re on our own - just as someone mentioned on another thread the other day. We didn’t really support Dennis - if every one of those 60,000 people who are purported to have voted for him on one of those on-line polls he kept winning had sent him a hundred bucks each then he would have been able to get his message across to a few more people.
Another thread discussed the use of local “pirate” radio - which is apparently permitted in an emergency. We have an emergency because Dennis has been denied the means to get his messages into the community. Apparently you can buy a transmitter for $300. There must be many people amongst his supporters with the skills needed to set these up. Then we could broadcast his speeches all across the country.
Pardon my frankness… but it’s a shame, that we PROUD AMERICAN’s, SO (absolutly) suck as HUMANs, that we refuse to sacrifice comfort, to stand against profit’s influence.
For this (and many other $$$ related reasons) “WE” cower like mice!!!! …and no longer fight against the odds, toward enlightenment. WE no longer believe in our selves, outside of what comfort our incomes (& gap/walmart/target/levis outsourced slavery) afford us, thus shirking our ultimate cause/resposability (the right to live free and fight for each other as people) IS LOST.
The AMERICA of our founding fathers (it seems) has long been dead… Our politician’s in the guise of leader’s are diseased and rotting corporate cheerleaders… Usher’s toward an evident dismal future. The reasons we are, or arne’t the same… are nothing more than unjust blind profit and liability… or lack there of. The unprofittable life is no longer worth itself and thus conidered a burden upon us all.
In truth, WE THE PEOPLE, have become the faithless, effortless loser’s our empty corporate media would like US to believe live elsewhere, plotting to bringing “US” down!
In light of this truth, HUMANITY’s only hope is that some other TRUELY democratic country take’s the raines and leads US and this world forward toward the light of social equality and religious freedom.
Whilst we: buy the fabric of ensaved nations (super cheap): oppress those whom corporate america opposes: and watch our meaningless athletic and primetime superstars, play dress up to distract us from the downfall of this modern society we claim to champion.
If a million american’s died on our own streets, while occupied by some strongr, richer entity, for fuel and profitability… would we stand by, watch, and quietly move on?
…Or would we fight for RIGHTS and FREEDOM? Bleed too… for TRUTH and JUSTICE?
… Or are we not who we claim to be? Why are those boys not home? Why have so many died? Why are these questions still necessary?
Do WE not fall short, shamefully, of our own super hero’s intents and ignore all of the injustice we sling upon the world about us?
Are we just a lie?
Is profit REALLY so important… as we go quietly into this good night?
Is our present past, the truth of our future? …are WE the ugly ignornt american’s? …mostly responsable for the plight of this dying modern world, yet too distracted, shocked or ashamed to own up?
…OR, do we have the heart and strength to fix it?
I believe we can, …but first we must as individuals shirk our party lines and vote for the One who lead’s us forward, toward ultimate equality.
Sometimes a step back is the only path to move forward.
Free the world and look into your heart and vote for he, who truly sees a path for more than US, and has the strength to honestly lead humanity.
I’m glad Dennis is finally going after Bush.
WHY didn’t Kucinich at least wait to see how Super Tuesday’s primaries shook out? I can just hear Pelosi and the DNC slobs in the back room: Back off, Dennis, cut out all this “Leftist” talk, Dennis (Oh Dear! Dubuque is listening!), or we’ll pour all the funding into the other Dimocraps who are running to take your seat in Congress. Except for DK, I am DONE with the Dimocraps PERMANENTLY. Meanwhile I’m hearing the MSM now saying “Well, the Dimocrap field is now down to three candidates.” WHAT? When were there four in the MSM? There’s no insult they won’t broadcast, no lie they won’t tell, won’t cover up, won’t expect you to forget….
starofthesea - just call your damn rep and tell them to support the impeachment. I understand your anger, but you can’t make the case that lefties worknig harder was going to get Kucinich nominated. I doubt he ever thought he had any chance. What he did get was some time in the televise ddebates to speak some truth. Now help him get back to the work that he can still do in the House. One of the BIG pieces of work to be done is getting our Congress to be a force that limits and pust checks on an out-of-control presidency. If we act like POTUS is the be-all and end-all we are complicit in teh continuued undermining of our Constitution. It ain’t perfect but its teh best we’ve got.
One need not look to MLK for a warning. How about the Wellstones?! To challenge the system at this point is suicide, and not just politically speaking.
Gravel has agreed with Kucinich, and now makes a public statement as such:
http://www.gravel2008.us/impeachment
Completely coincidental that it was getting posted the same day as the news zinger that Kucinich is dropping out.
“The world is a dangerous place to live in not because of those who do evil but because of those who watch and let it happen.” Albert Einstein
In California, vote Cindy Sheehan in, and Nancy Pelosi out!
Love to D.K. and R.P. debate.
now that would be illuminating.
from Coco:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pGht71KFkY
redwing,
Not to challenge the system at this point is much more suicidal.
And Please remember folks at election time in Nov if the selected two party candidates don’t cut it, to write in anyone else like Dennis or Ron Paul or Einstein or yourself will be a protest vote and recorded as under-votes.
If you want a new third party or peace movement this will not be a wasted vote at all but showing a “none of the above” virtual vote…
Quite revolutionary for America…
Happy voting ..we do have choices
The Common Dreams ‘Choir’ hits more homeruns again, and I thank you all for the comments. Too many to thank, but I like the Albert Einstein quote from Quality Time’s post. That statement is timeless!
The majority of the American people need to be impeached for willful ignorance and letting MSM do their thinking for them. About seven months ago, I made a 100 dollar bet with a good friend of mine about the presidential candidates.He knew I was a staunch Kucinich supporter and he was still deciding whom he would support. I told him then, that the corporate media, big time capitalists, rabid Zionists, and the war machine wanted either Clinton or Obama as the nominees for the Democratic Party. On the other side, any Republican criminal would be fine as they have the same basic philosophy. The bet was, and I just may win…that the ’so-called process of elimination scam will be narrowed down to Obama or Clinton, both ‘exceptable’ candidates of the ‘alternative party’. Once the above finish Edwards off, I’ll collect the $$ and send it to the Kucinich fund to help pay his costs.
For those of you who haven’t heard or seen ‘DEMOCRACYNOW!’ this morning, on your tv’s or radio stations, please go to www.democracynow.org and listen or get a transcript of today’s show. I’d like to hear your comments afterwards. This brave young man needs a decent job and financial support. Maybe the ’so-called’ Hollywood liberal community can send him money for the heroic stand he made.
Peace and Harmony
I’m going reptile hunting. Come on Lizard , slither back to your neo con blog sites. How dare you say that about Dennis. Maybe your joking but I dont think so. You say,One guy, only one guy has the courage to do his job. Therefore he is abnormal. Kucinich does not belong in congress, he doesn’t understand his role there. He actually thinks congress persons should work for the people. But the people think he sucks. If Kucinich really wanted to be president, he would try to please the people. C’mon Dennis learn to say: “Bomb,bomb, bomb Iran!”. Try it, you’ll like it! It’s fun!! That’s how you get votes Dennis Lizard,I think if there is a lack of understanding, I think its on your part. Maybe you thinks he sucks, but there are a lot of people here who would beg to differ, Me being one. He sure as hell is pleasing me.You are nothing and he is everything. I await your response. Texrey
It’s official, Kucinich is dropping out of the race! He says that he is not endorsing anyone, but he needs to endorse Edwards, and he needs to do it NOW, while it can still make a difference!
Dennis should remain in Congress for a while, and do what he does best, attack the neocons from within. I’m sure that if he were to support Edwards, there would be a place of power for him in an Edwards administration. If you were a Kucinich supporter, tell him to endorse Edwards NOW!
EDWARDS ‘08
i intend to vote for Dennis in the Washington State Primary…regardless…he is the ONLY one that speaks truth to power
I like the ideas of Dennis Kucinich. I also like the ideas of Ron Paul.
I ALSO SEE THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM NOT AS A STRAIGHT LINE WITH TWO ENDS, BUT AS A
BROKEN CIRCLE
WITH THE TWO ENDS CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN TO THE MIDDLE!!!!
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THIS IS THE BIRTH OF THE THIRD PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES. NON-PARTISAN, ANTI-WAR, PRO-PEACE, ENVIRONMENTAL, NON-CORPORATE, CONSTITUTIONAL, AND
OF BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE
Instead of each end having 15%, you have 30% right out of the blocks. Of course, there are differences on HOW to, but few differences on What needs to be done. Other marginalized parties will want to enter a coalition.
This is a PARADIGM SHIFT.
WE ARE BEING DIVIDED and CONQUERED.
THIS COULD BE THE BIRTH OF PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION.
WE HAVE THE IDEAS, THIS WILL GIVE US THE POWER.
THIS WILL TURN BOTH “major parties” INTO THE MINORITY PARTIES THEY REALLY ARE!!!!!!
Candidates for Senate and House will flock to our Banner: A purple circle within a white line, broken at the top, on a green background.
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Start the year off right. Easy
We, the husband and I, have been ardent Dennis supports, advocates, guardian ad litems, proponents of his plans, his marriage, his character and tenacity. One of the best books out is his (finally) recently published http://www.amazon.com/Courage-Survive-Dennis-Kucinich/dp/1597775681/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201292338&sr=8-1autobiography from youth through age 21. A more amazing story would be hard to find. I read it straight thru in one day unable to set it down once I started. Phenomenal life, against incredible odds.
Let’s use Occam’s Razor to look at why impeachment is “off the table”: the simplest explanation might well be that after the ‘06 elections the Clintons in no uncertain terms thusly instructed House Speaker-select Pelosi. Why? If Cheney & Bush were to go before January 20th, 2009, guess who, being third in the constitutional succession, gets to be the first woman president, even if only for a few months? Unacceptable to Hitlary & Co. because she knows full well that an impeachment effort stands a good chance at success.
Kucinich is the only candidate from either partyworth voting for. The others, including Mr. “non-combat” v. “combat” troops Edwards are all warmongerers.
The failure to impeach/remove Bush/Cheney by the Dems makes them collaborators in their already proven high crimes and misdemeanors.
As the whole political process has been contracted out to the corporate owned media, rather than debates being required on the public dime and moderated by non-profit, good government groups, it will be impossible for Dennis to get his message out in the kind of way necessary for him to be seriously considered by the electorate.
I wrote to my senator; and this is her form letter response:
senator@feinstein.senate.gov wrote:
From:
Subject: U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein responding to your message
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:19:52 -0500
Dear ………..:
Thank you for your letter concerning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Richard Cheney. I appreciate the time you took to write and welcome the opportunity to respond.
In our most recent elections, the American people expressed clear disapproval with the path this country was on. They are tired of partisan politics and of an Administration that pays little heed to the wishes of the American people. They want-and deserve a Congress that holds the Administration accountable and fulfills its Constitutional responsibility to check and balance the Executive branch. I share this sentiment and am determined to work hard and across party lines in the United States Senate to promote issues that are of real concern to most Americans, including the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, homeland security, global warming, and lobbying and election reform.
At this time, however, I believe that impeachment proceedings against President Bush or Vice President Cheney will only divide the country even further, frustrating our hopes for a meaningful change in direction, while having little chance of success.
I have been deeply disappointed by many of this Administration’s actions and have been outspoken in those instances. Nevertheless, given the challenges our country faces I believe that we need to focus on constructive and cooperative steps that would lead us in the right direction.
Again, thank you for your letter. If you have any further questions or comments, please contact my office in Washington, D.C. at (202) 224-3841. Best regards.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Further information about my position on issues of concern to California and the Nation are available at my website http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/. You can also receive electronic e-mail updates by subscribing to my e-mail list at http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ENewsletterSignup.Signup.
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Read it and weep. I would like to tell her that moving forward in “constructive and cooperative steps” is all well and good, but how about punishing the bastards for CRIMES AGAINST THE ELECTORATE, AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION, AGAINST THE BUDGET, and against humanity; and for fraudulent practices while in public office and positions of power; waging an unjust and unwarranted war in Iraq, and all manner of other felonies and misdemeanors!
Not a lot of good that would do. We have a WUSS CONGRESS and a felonious administration, and the former wants to let the latter get away with it all, Scott free. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CHECKS AND BALANCES?
Supreme Court, you say? MY DIMINISHING BUTT! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT BUSH INTO OFFICE IN THE FIRST PLACE… And in the second place,the crooked elections boards/committees in Ohio and Florida put him in office, too.
Americans need some healing here, Mz Feinstein, and that is what Articles of Impeachment are for - healing the victims and punishing the criminals, eliminating the malfeasance and cleaning house. Speaking of cleaning house, Americans really need to clean both Houses: Senate and Representatives.
Brother, am I ever ready to move to Canada.
Ilof Musich
I’m actually relieved that Dennis quit the race, as I so respect the man and wouldn’t wish the next four years on anyone I thought well of. It is truly sad, though, as a reflection of the state of our country/media.
The next president inherits a destroyed economy and world network, so be happy for Dennis the man, and only sorrow for lost ideals.
Think the Cheney impeachment effort will be more effective. Bush will just use the Reagan defense - that he did not understand much of what was going on and left most of it up to Cheney.
How can they block Kucinich from speaking!
I can’t understand why Kucinich, Wexler, and a handful of others are the only real proponents of truth in Congress. Are the rest of them afraid of being “iced”? Otherwise, why would they tolerate all this abuse, after impeaching Clinton over something so relatively minor?
Regardless of whether Kucinich should have been included in the presidential debates, his impeachment resolutions are valid and crucial to democracy.
Did you see where some supporters disrupted the Tonight Show to protest the exclusion and censorship of these issues? Media censorship of both Kucinich and impeachment are reaching dangerous levels. see more:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/25/174040/497
Ilof Musich
Don’t feel bad. I get the same response from Feinstein. On a host of issues as well.
When I see the direction…never mind.
The best to you.
My guess is Kucinich must be squeaky clean; even when chimp/cheney wiretaps his phone no dirt shows up they can use against him.
Dennis Kucinich Walks the Walk
I may just have to write in his name and vote for his democrat azz.
MIke bin laden ,Why do yous say Dennis needs to support Edwards? Because say so. You and lizard should team up. Maybe then you guys will have half a brain. Normally I would’ve attempted to tear you a new one, but it’s early, I’m still doing some last minuite research on John. Thanks Kem. I saw him on some afternoon show yesterday afternoon. Nice guy.He is far better than the other two. But for you to say Kucinich should do this or that is just insane.Why don’t you write him in Cleveland you moron. I am sure he will pay attention to some one as wise as you. Or better yet, you could probably do a much better job so run yourself, right off a cliff. Dennis Kucinich is a brave and honest Statesman. I will wait untill this weekend, we’ll see how YOUR boy does! I have resisted commenting on your drizzle. I could’nt help myself this time. He better do it Quick! You sound desperate bro. Texrey
Kucinich is one of a few (or perhaps the only?) members of Congress willing to uphold his oath of office: to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The Bush Crime Family must be impeached. Given the Dem party’s craven complicity with BCF, that appears unlikely.
The (s)election of 2000 was a coup. The long-moribund U.S experiment with democracy ended in November 2000. Every major event since then, September 11th, Anthrax, Afghanistan, Iraq, Gitmo, renditions, torture, Enron, presidential signing statements, etc. is part of the script written by the oligarchs toward implementing fascism.
And the band played on.
Jesus Dennis, Quote King’s words from “Beyond Vietnam” as a shield’
King cried out, “SILENCE IS TREASON”
Dennis, you are surrounded by millions of traitors.
You are VERY brave,
appriciatively, Jay Janson