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In an exclusive interview with the BBC,
Daniel Fried came across as an eminently reasonable man placed in a
disturbingly unreasonable position by his bosses. A senior diplomat,
who was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian
Affairs for four years, Fried was plucked from his job in March 2009 to
become the Obama administration's Special Envoy to Guantanamo, serving
as a member of the interagency Task Force
charged with reviewing the cases of the remaining Guantanamo prisoners,
and responsible, primarily, for finding countries to accept dozens of
prisoners who have been cleared for release, either by the Task Force,
often based on decisions already taken by Bush-era military review
boards, or by the courts, after successful habeas corpus petitions.
These are men who cannot be returned to their home countries because
of fears that they will face torture, or further arbitrary
imprisonment, on their return, although Fried is also responsible for
trying to broker a deal with Yemen, whose nationals make up around 40
percent of the remaining 225 prisoners. Fried spoke mainly to the BBC
about negotiations with Europe, but it is apparent that attempts to
overcome the long-standing failure to secure a deal with the Yemeni
government remains one of the most difficult tasks that he faces.
In an interview for Radio 4's Today program, which was
partly filmed and televised on BBC News, Fried gave Jon Manel a largely
spin-free account of the problems he faces, some of which have been
exacerbated by the US government's unwillingness - or inability - to
resettle some cleared prisoners on the US mainland.
To my mind, President Obama missed a golden opportunity to bring 17 prisoners to the US in his early days in office. These men, the Uighurs
(Muslims who had fled oppression in China's Xinjiang province, and who
were sold to US forces after being betrayed by Pakistani villagers,
following their flight from Afghanistan) had been cleared of any
involvement with al-Qaeda, the Taliban or any form of international
terrorism by the Bush administration and by the US courts, but the
President wavered, allowing Guantanamo's supporters in Congress
(scaremongers inspired by the hateful and false rhetoric of former Vice
President Dick Cheney) to gain the upper hand, eventually persuading Congress to pass legislation blocking the transfer of any cleared prisoners to the US mainland.
Fried began by explaining that his job was "miserable," because he
was "cleaning up a problem" inherited from the Bush administration,
which had nothing to do with advancing any positive aspects of US
policy. "It's not like we're advancing liberty or making peace," he
said. He also stated that working out what to do with the remaining
prisoners is "a huge problem and a complicated one," but according to
Manel, although he said that he would "not criticize Congress," he
stated, unambiguously, "It is fair to say, as just an objective
statement, that the US could resettle more detainees [worldwide], had
we been willing to take in some."
The interview was also notable for the following frank exchange
about the perception of the remaining prisoners as "the worst of the
worst," which included, I believe, the first public admission, by a
senior Obama administration official, that some of the prisoners were nothing more
than low-level Taliban recruits, in an inter-Muslim civil war (with the
Northern Alliance) that preceded the 9/11 attacks and had nothing to do
with al-Qaeda or international terrorism, and that they should not have
been in Guantanamo for the last seven years:
Daniel Fried: The detainees in
Guantanamo run a spectrum. Some really are awful. Some qualify as "the
worst of the worst," and we're going to put those on trial. Some,
frankly, should not have been in Guantanamo for the past seven years.Jon Manel: So they were innocent?
Daniel Fried: Innocent, guilt ... I look at their
files and some of them seem relatively benign, and I have in mind the
Uighurs, in particular, but others ...Jon Manel: They're the minority from China ...
Daniel Fried: That's right, the Uighur minority
from China, but if I had to describe - if there's such a thing as an
average Guantanamo detainee, it's someone who was a volunteer, a
low-level trainee or a very low-level fighter in a very bad cause, but
not a hardened terrorist, not an organizer. Now it is those people whom
we're asking Europeans to take a look at, and each government has to
evaluate the background of each individual and make a decision.
Despite his criticism of the implications of the failure to accept
any cleared prisoners into the United States, Fried did make the point
that "parliamentarians in Europe" - as well as the US - "have raised
questions about security, and we have to respect those opinions,"
although he was also concerned to publicize the successful resettlement of four of the Uighurs
in Bermuda (in June), even though it had apparently brought him into
conflict with the British government, because, as the BBC described it,
"Bermuda is a British overseas territory and Britain was not informed
until the last minute."
"The British government, it is fair to say, cannot be considered
part of the deal. This was worked out between the Americans and the
Bermudans," Fried told Manel, adding, "I will say that I've been
admonished by the British government in very clear terms." He insisted,
however, that the deal had been successful. "We are very grateful to
the Bermudan government and the behavior of the four Uighurs has been
exemplary, which really bolsters our contention that they were not any
kind of threat," he said, adding, "These are four people who are enjoying freedom who would otherwise be in Guantanamo."
This was an important point to make, although I maintain that the
Uighurs' "exemplary" behavior, which "bolsters" the government's
"contention that they were not any kind of threat," would have had a
far more powerful impact if it had happened in Washington D.C., where
American citizens would have been able to appreciate, first-hand, that
the Uighurs are not, and have never been terrorists.
In conclusion, Fried told Manel that he was "confident" that the
President's January deadline for closing Guantanamo would be met,
although he could not guarantee it. "President Obama's timetable is
what we've got," he said, "we don't have Plan Bs, we're looking at that
timetable. We've got a lot of work to do, we need help getting this
done, and we're going to be working hard at it. But you're not going to
have Guantanamo II. Whatever solution we come up with, it will be one
based firmly on the rule of law and transparency."
Fried's interview coincided with an announcement that Hungary is preparing to take a cleared prisoner from Guantanamo, to add to those already accepted by the UK (Binyam Mohamed, a British resident, in February), France (Lakhdar Boumediene, an Algerian, in May), and Portugal (Mohammed al-Tumani and Moammar Dokhan, both Syrians, last month). Other countries who have agreed to take cleared prisoners are Belgium, Ireland, Italy (although with some disturbing conditions), and Spain, and discussions are apparently ongoing with both Lithuania and Switzerland.
Note: A short video of the BBC interview (featuring the exchange reproduced above) is available here.
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In an exclusive interview with the BBC,
Daniel Fried came across as an eminently reasonable man placed in a
disturbingly unreasonable position by his bosses. A senior diplomat,
who was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian
Affairs for four years, Fried was plucked from his job in March 2009 to
become the Obama administration's Special Envoy to Guantanamo, serving
as a member of the interagency Task Force
charged with reviewing the cases of the remaining Guantanamo prisoners,
and responsible, primarily, for finding countries to accept dozens of
prisoners who have been cleared for release, either by the Task Force,
often based on decisions already taken by Bush-era military review
boards, or by the courts, after successful habeas corpus petitions.
These are men who cannot be returned to their home countries because
of fears that they will face torture, or further arbitrary
imprisonment, on their return, although Fried is also responsible for
trying to broker a deal with Yemen, whose nationals make up around 40
percent of the remaining 225 prisoners. Fried spoke mainly to the BBC
about negotiations with Europe, but it is apparent that attempts to
overcome the long-standing failure to secure a deal with the Yemeni
government remains one of the most difficult tasks that he faces.
In an interview for Radio 4's Today program, which was
partly filmed and televised on BBC News, Fried gave Jon Manel a largely
spin-free account of the problems he faces, some of which have been
exacerbated by the US government's unwillingness - or inability - to
resettle some cleared prisoners on the US mainland.
To my mind, President Obama missed a golden opportunity to bring 17 prisoners to the US in his early days in office. These men, the Uighurs
(Muslims who had fled oppression in China's Xinjiang province, and who
were sold to US forces after being betrayed by Pakistani villagers,
following their flight from Afghanistan) had been cleared of any
involvement with al-Qaeda, the Taliban or any form of international
terrorism by the Bush administration and by the US courts, but the
President wavered, allowing Guantanamo's supporters in Congress
(scaremongers inspired by the hateful and false rhetoric of former Vice
President Dick Cheney) to gain the upper hand, eventually persuading Congress to pass legislation blocking the transfer of any cleared prisoners to the US mainland.
Fried began by explaining that his job was "miserable," because he
was "cleaning up a problem" inherited from the Bush administration,
which had nothing to do with advancing any positive aspects of US
policy. "It's not like we're advancing liberty or making peace," he
said. He also stated that working out what to do with the remaining
prisoners is "a huge problem and a complicated one," but according to
Manel, although he said that he would "not criticize Congress," he
stated, unambiguously, "It is fair to say, as just an objective
statement, that the US could resettle more detainees [worldwide], had
we been willing to take in some."
The interview was also notable for the following frank exchange
about the perception of the remaining prisoners as "the worst of the
worst," which included, I believe, the first public admission, by a
senior Obama administration official, that some of the prisoners were nothing more
than low-level Taliban recruits, in an inter-Muslim civil war (with the
Northern Alliance) that preceded the 9/11 attacks and had nothing to do
with al-Qaeda or international terrorism, and that they should not have
been in Guantanamo for the last seven years:
Daniel Fried: The detainees in
Guantanamo run a spectrum. Some really are awful. Some qualify as "the
worst of the worst," and we're going to put those on trial. Some,
frankly, should not have been in Guantanamo for the past seven years.Jon Manel: So they were innocent?
Daniel Fried: Innocent, guilt ... I look at their
files and some of them seem relatively benign, and I have in mind the
Uighurs, in particular, but others ...Jon Manel: They're the minority from China ...
Daniel Fried: That's right, the Uighur minority
from China, but if I had to describe - if there's such a thing as an
average Guantanamo detainee, it's someone who was a volunteer, a
low-level trainee or a very low-level fighter in a very bad cause, but
not a hardened terrorist, not an organizer. Now it is those people whom
we're asking Europeans to take a look at, and each government has to
evaluate the background of each individual and make a decision.
Despite his criticism of the implications of the failure to accept
any cleared prisoners into the United States, Fried did make the point
that "parliamentarians in Europe" - as well as the US - "have raised
questions about security, and we have to respect those opinions,"
although he was also concerned to publicize the successful resettlement of four of the Uighurs
in Bermuda (in June), even though it had apparently brought him into
conflict with the British government, because, as the BBC described it,
"Bermuda is a British overseas territory and Britain was not informed
until the last minute."
"The British government, it is fair to say, cannot be considered
part of the deal. This was worked out between the Americans and the
Bermudans," Fried told Manel, adding, "I will say that I've been
admonished by the British government in very clear terms." He insisted,
however, that the deal had been successful. "We are very grateful to
the Bermudan government and the behavior of the four Uighurs has been
exemplary, which really bolsters our contention that they were not any
kind of threat," he said, adding, "These are four people who are enjoying freedom who would otherwise be in Guantanamo."
This was an important point to make, although I maintain that the
Uighurs' "exemplary" behavior, which "bolsters" the government's
"contention that they were not any kind of threat," would have had a
far more powerful impact if it had happened in Washington D.C., where
American citizens would have been able to appreciate, first-hand, that
the Uighurs are not, and have never been terrorists.
In conclusion, Fried told Manel that he was "confident" that the
President's January deadline for closing Guantanamo would be met,
although he could not guarantee it. "President Obama's timetable is
what we've got," he said, "we don't have Plan Bs, we're looking at that
timetable. We've got a lot of work to do, we need help getting this
done, and we're going to be working hard at it. But you're not going to
have Guantanamo II. Whatever solution we come up with, it will be one
based firmly on the rule of law and transparency."
Fried's interview coincided with an announcement that Hungary is preparing to take a cleared prisoner from Guantanamo, to add to those already accepted by the UK (Binyam Mohamed, a British resident, in February), France (Lakhdar Boumediene, an Algerian, in May), and Portugal (Mohammed al-Tumani and Moammar Dokhan, both Syrians, last month). Other countries who have agreed to take cleared prisoners are Belgium, Ireland, Italy (although with some disturbing conditions), and Spain, and discussions are apparently ongoing with both Lithuania and Switzerland.
Note: A short video of the BBC interview (featuring the exchange reproduced above) is available here.
In an exclusive interview with the BBC,
Daniel Fried came across as an eminently reasonable man placed in a
disturbingly unreasonable position by his bosses. A senior diplomat,
who was the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian
Affairs for four years, Fried was plucked from his job in March 2009 to
become the Obama administration's Special Envoy to Guantanamo, serving
as a member of the interagency Task Force
charged with reviewing the cases of the remaining Guantanamo prisoners,
and responsible, primarily, for finding countries to accept dozens of
prisoners who have been cleared for release, either by the Task Force,
often based on decisions already taken by Bush-era military review
boards, or by the courts, after successful habeas corpus petitions.
These are men who cannot be returned to their home countries because
of fears that they will face torture, or further arbitrary
imprisonment, on their return, although Fried is also responsible for
trying to broker a deal with Yemen, whose nationals make up around 40
percent of the remaining 225 prisoners. Fried spoke mainly to the BBC
about negotiations with Europe, but it is apparent that attempts to
overcome the long-standing failure to secure a deal with the Yemeni
government remains one of the most difficult tasks that he faces.
In an interview for Radio 4's Today program, which was
partly filmed and televised on BBC News, Fried gave Jon Manel a largely
spin-free account of the problems he faces, some of which have been
exacerbated by the US government's unwillingness - or inability - to
resettle some cleared prisoners on the US mainland.
To my mind, President Obama missed a golden opportunity to bring 17 prisoners to the US in his early days in office. These men, the Uighurs
(Muslims who had fled oppression in China's Xinjiang province, and who
were sold to US forces after being betrayed by Pakistani villagers,
following their flight from Afghanistan) had been cleared of any
involvement with al-Qaeda, the Taliban or any form of international
terrorism by the Bush administration and by the US courts, but the
President wavered, allowing Guantanamo's supporters in Congress
(scaremongers inspired by the hateful and false rhetoric of former Vice
President Dick Cheney) to gain the upper hand, eventually persuading Congress to pass legislation blocking the transfer of any cleared prisoners to the US mainland.
Fried began by explaining that his job was "miserable," because he
was "cleaning up a problem" inherited from the Bush administration,
which had nothing to do with advancing any positive aspects of US
policy. "It's not like we're advancing liberty or making peace," he
said. He also stated that working out what to do with the remaining
prisoners is "a huge problem and a complicated one," but according to
Manel, although he said that he would "not criticize Congress," he
stated, unambiguously, "It is fair to say, as just an objective
statement, that the US could resettle more detainees [worldwide], had
we been willing to take in some."
The interview was also notable for the following frank exchange
about the perception of the remaining prisoners as "the worst of the
worst," which included, I believe, the first public admission, by a
senior Obama administration official, that some of the prisoners were nothing more
than low-level Taliban recruits, in an inter-Muslim civil war (with the
Northern Alliance) that preceded the 9/11 attacks and had nothing to do
with al-Qaeda or international terrorism, and that they should not have
been in Guantanamo for the last seven years:
Daniel Fried: The detainees in
Guantanamo run a spectrum. Some really are awful. Some qualify as "the
worst of the worst," and we're going to put those on trial. Some,
frankly, should not have been in Guantanamo for the past seven years.Jon Manel: So they were innocent?
Daniel Fried: Innocent, guilt ... I look at their
files and some of them seem relatively benign, and I have in mind the
Uighurs, in particular, but others ...Jon Manel: They're the minority from China ...
Daniel Fried: That's right, the Uighur minority
from China, but if I had to describe - if there's such a thing as an
average Guantanamo detainee, it's someone who was a volunteer, a
low-level trainee or a very low-level fighter in a very bad cause, but
not a hardened terrorist, not an organizer. Now it is those people whom
we're asking Europeans to take a look at, and each government has to
evaluate the background of each individual and make a decision.
Despite his criticism of the implications of the failure to accept
any cleared prisoners into the United States, Fried did make the point
that "parliamentarians in Europe" - as well as the US - "have raised
questions about security, and we have to respect those opinions,"
although he was also concerned to publicize the successful resettlement of four of the Uighurs
in Bermuda (in June), even though it had apparently brought him into
conflict with the British government, because, as the BBC described it,
"Bermuda is a British overseas territory and Britain was not informed
until the last minute."
"The British government, it is fair to say, cannot be considered
part of the deal. This was worked out between the Americans and the
Bermudans," Fried told Manel, adding, "I will say that I've been
admonished by the British government in very clear terms." He insisted,
however, that the deal had been successful. "We are very grateful to
the Bermudan government and the behavior of the four Uighurs has been
exemplary, which really bolsters our contention that they were not any
kind of threat," he said, adding, "These are four people who are enjoying freedom who would otherwise be in Guantanamo."
This was an important point to make, although I maintain that the
Uighurs' "exemplary" behavior, which "bolsters" the government's
"contention that they were not any kind of threat," would have had a
far more powerful impact if it had happened in Washington D.C., where
American citizens would have been able to appreciate, first-hand, that
the Uighurs are not, and have never been terrorists.
In conclusion, Fried told Manel that he was "confident" that the
President's January deadline for closing Guantanamo would be met,
although he could not guarantee it. "President Obama's timetable is
what we've got," he said, "we don't have Plan Bs, we're looking at that
timetable. We've got a lot of work to do, we need help getting this
done, and we're going to be working hard at it. But you're not going to
have Guantanamo II. Whatever solution we come up with, it will be one
based firmly on the rule of law and transparency."
Fried's interview coincided with an announcement that Hungary is preparing to take a cleared prisoner from Guantanamo, to add to those already accepted by the UK (Binyam Mohamed, a British resident, in February), France (Lakhdar Boumediene, an Algerian, in May), and Portugal (Mohammed al-Tumani and Moammar Dokhan, both Syrians, last month). Other countries who have agreed to take cleared prisoners are Belgium, Ireland, Italy (although with some disturbing conditions), and Spain, and discussions are apparently ongoing with both Lithuania and Switzerland.
Note: A short video of the BBC interview (featuring the exchange reproduced above) is available here.