May 16, 2009
A
joke is a sometime thing, as wide as a church door or as delicate as a
rose. The right or wrong word, too many or too few, their placement or
emphasis can determine whether it's a total dud or fall down funny; the
difference, as Mark Twain said, between the lightning bug and lightning.
Too much explanation or thought can whip a joke to death, so it was
with trepidation that I went down to Washington last week with some
fellow members of the Writers Guild of America, East, the union of
which I'm president. I moderated a panel discussion of writers from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report and Late Show with David Letterman, among others, to discuss news and late night comedy.
The driving impulse for all of this was the White House Correspondents'
Dinner last weekend, "The Nerd Prom," as it's become known, when
inside-the-Beltway journalists and their chummy government sources
cement their unholy alliance over rillettes and risotto. Over the last
few years it has become an Oscar-like event, with Hollywood migrating
east to hobnob with the stars of politics and commentary, distracting
each other into a trivial frenzy. And you wonder why we can't get
universal health care passed.
Toward the end of our strike last year, the Guild presented a successful event on Capitol Hill, a mock debate in which a team of Daily Show
writers representing the Guild went up against a Colbert team posing as
the studios and networks. Former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee
Myers moderated. Hilarity and mirth ensued.
This time we thought we'd hitch a ride on the hoopla around the
Correspondents' Dinner and succeeded. A crowd of several hundred showed
up at the Newseum on Pennsylvania Avenue. The Huffington Post streamed
live video and C-SPAN, which hadn't covered anything as funny since the
last hearings on horticulture and organic food safety standards,
videotaped the whole thing.
Not that you saw all of it. Parts of an hour of stand-up comedy by
Guild writers apparently were deemed a little too raunchy for the
followers of Brian Lamb and so when telecast, C-SPAN cut right to the
chase -- our panel discussion.
People have been making jokes about the news and having an impact on it
since the Greek playwright Aristophanes cracked wise about Socrates.
Now, the late night shows are affecting traditional journalism and
mainstream coverage of events, and influencing public opinion, more
than ever, whether it's John McCain dissing Letterman and appearing on
Katie Couric's newscast instead, President Obama on Jay Leno, or Tina
Fey imitating Sarah Palin to devastating effect on Saturday Night Live.
In March, a Rasmussen poll reported that nearly one-third of Americans
under 40 say they get more of their news from Jon Stewart, Stephen
Colbert and other late night comedy shows than they do from traditional
sources of news. The poll also found that 39% of the public says the
late night shows are making Americans more informed; 21% said they're
having the opposite effect.
Recently, in The Nation
magazine, media critic Eric Alterman noted that the late night programs
had been responsible for three of the most important and cathartic
media moments of the last decade: Jon Stewart's evisceration of
confrontational talk shows posing as political dialogue when he
appeared on the CNN show Crossfire
in October 2004 (which many believe hastened the program's demise);
Stephen Colbert's controversial speech at the correspondent's dinner
three years ago (in which he attacked the White House press corps'
cuddly relationship with President Bush); and Jon Stewart's recent
assault on CNBC's Jim Cramer and the misleading, uncritical coverage
presented by financial television news in the months leading up to the
crash.
Alterman wrote, "It's a sad -- almost terrifying -- comment on the
state of the American media that we have come to rely on these two
funnymen to tell us the truth about our country in the same way we
relied on Murrow in the '50s and Walter Cronkite in the '60s."
But as we began the panel, buzzing in my head were the sage and terrible words of the late, great New Yorker
magazine essayist, E. B. White: "Analyzing humor is like dissecting a
frog," he wrote. "Few people are interested and the frog dies of it."
Nonetheless, we plunged ahead. So, I asked, is late night comedy
telling us a truth that news can't? Are audiences turning to you for
news because you ask questions and make points the mainstream media
can't or won't?
"No," said my friend Tim Carvell from The Daily Show.
"On some level, I'd like to think so, but I don't think that's the
case. We're dessert at the end of the news menu. I actually think
people who say they're getting their news from us say that as a way of
protesting what they see in the news. But I feel the media isn't a
monolith; there's good media and bad. We're just off to the side of it,
sitting at the back of the class making comments."
Opus Moreschi, who writes for The Colbert Report,
agreed. "I think if anyone's getting the news from either of our shows
then that's unfortunate. Because we're not there to provide news, we're
there to provide entertainment, obviously. But it may be that people
who see something on our show and want to learn more find their own
news sources and make up their minds. That to me is a pleasant side
effect of having comedy that informs. But if all they've got is our
punchline, they may walk away thinking Denny Hastert is apparently a
crossdresser and that's not accurate information... Wait, sorry, I'm
being told that he is."
J.R. Havlan, a comic who writes for The Daily Show
added, "I feel like comedy shows and satire, what they do is not inform
so much as help people learn how to watch and decipher the news. It's
not about watching us to learn what's going on but learning to see
what's going on and take it with a grain of salt -- that not everything
they see is the truth."
And so it went. There's lots more -- war stories, background on how the
shows are put together, interesting questions from the audience. You
can go to the C-SPAN website to view the whole thing.
But in the end, for all the analysis and commentary that have been
written about the late night shows, the bottom line remains: it's all
about the funny.
By the way, we didn't actually attend the White House Correspondents'
Dinner the next night, but did go to one of the after-parties at the
Corcoran Galley of Art, mobbed with more than 600 guests and roaring
with music at an ear-splitting pitch. We met a berobed Arabian prince
who had two of the most formidable body guards I'd ever seen, big and
impassive, like the statues on Easter Island.
Then we were straight-armed aside by an even larger phalanx of
black-suited security men. Who's coming through, we wondered -- a
cabinet member, Joe Biden, the President?
No, it was Eva Longoria, the diminutive but self-important star of Desperate Housewives.
Now that's funny.
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Michael Winship
Michael Winship is the Schumann Senior Writing Fellow at the progressive news outlet Common Dreams, where he writes and edits political analysis and commentary. He is a Writers Guild East council member and its immediate past president and a veteran television writer and producer who has created programming for America's major PBS stations, CBS, the Discovery and Learning Channels, A&E, Turner Broadcasting, the Disney Channel, Lifetime, Sesame Workshop (formerly the Children's Television Workshop) and National Geographic, among others. In 2008, he joined his longtime friend and colleague Bill Moyers at Bill Moyers Journal on PBS and their writing collaboration has been close ever since. They share an Emmy and three Writers Guild Awards for writing excellence. Winship's television work also has been honored by the Christopher, Western Heritage, Genesis and CableACE Awards.
A
joke is a sometime thing, as wide as a church door or as delicate as a
rose. The right or wrong word, too many or too few, their placement or
emphasis can determine whether it's a total dud or fall down funny; the
difference, as Mark Twain said, between the lightning bug and lightning.
Too much explanation or thought can whip a joke to death, so it was
with trepidation that I went down to Washington last week with some
fellow members of the Writers Guild of America, East, the union of
which I'm president. I moderated a panel discussion of writers from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report and Late Show with David Letterman, among others, to discuss news and late night comedy.
The driving impulse for all of this was the White House Correspondents'
Dinner last weekend, "The Nerd Prom," as it's become known, when
inside-the-Beltway journalists and their chummy government sources
cement their unholy alliance over rillettes and risotto. Over the last
few years it has become an Oscar-like event, with Hollywood migrating
east to hobnob with the stars of politics and commentary, distracting
each other into a trivial frenzy. And you wonder why we can't get
universal health care passed.
Toward the end of our strike last year, the Guild presented a successful event on Capitol Hill, a mock debate in which a team of Daily Show
writers representing the Guild went up against a Colbert team posing as
the studios and networks. Former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee
Myers moderated. Hilarity and mirth ensued.
This time we thought we'd hitch a ride on the hoopla around the
Correspondents' Dinner and succeeded. A crowd of several hundred showed
up at the Newseum on Pennsylvania Avenue. The Huffington Post streamed
live video and C-SPAN, which hadn't covered anything as funny since the
last hearings on horticulture and organic food safety standards,
videotaped the whole thing.
Not that you saw all of it. Parts of an hour of stand-up comedy by
Guild writers apparently were deemed a little too raunchy for the
followers of Brian Lamb and so when telecast, C-SPAN cut right to the
chase -- our panel discussion.
People have been making jokes about the news and having an impact on it
since the Greek playwright Aristophanes cracked wise about Socrates.
Now, the late night shows are affecting traditional journalism and
mainstream coverage of events, and influencing public opinion, more
than ever, whether it's John McCain dissing Letterman and appearing on
Katie Couric's newscast instead, President Obama on Jay Leno, or Tina
Fey imitating Sarah Palin to devastating effect on Saturday Night Live.
In March, a Rasmussen poll reported that nearly one-third of Americans
under 40 say they get more of their news from Jon Stewart, Stephen
Colbert and other late night comedy shows than they do from traditional
sources of news. The poll also found that 39% of the public says the
late night shows are making Americans more informed; 21% said they're
having the opposite effect.
Recently, in The Nation
magazine, media critic Eric Alterman noted that the late night programs
had been responsible for three of the most important and cathartic
media moments of the last decade: Jon Stewart's evisceration of
confrontational talk shows posing as political dialogue when he
appeared on the CNN show Crossfire
in October 2004 (which many believe hastened the program's demise);
Stephen Colbert's controversial speech at the correspondent's dinner
three years ago (in which he attacked the White House press corps'
cuddly relationship with President Bush); and Jon Stewart's recent
assault on CNBC's Jim Cramer and the misleading, uncritical coverage
presented by financial television news in the months leading up to the
crash.
Alterman wrote, "It's a sad -- almost terrifying -- comment on the
state of the American media that we have come to rely on these two
funnymen to tell us the truth about our country in the same way we
relied on Murrow in the '50s and Walter Cronkite in the '60s."
But as we began the panel, buzzing in my head were the sage and terrible words of the late, great New Yorker
magazine essayist, E. B. White: "Analyzing humor is like dissecting a
frog," he wrote. "Few people are interested and the frog dies of it."
Nonetheless, we plunged ahead. So, I asked, is late night comedy
telling us a truth that news can't? Are audiences turning to you for
news because you ask questions and make points the mainstream media
can't or won't?
"No," said my friend Tim Carvell from The Daily Show.
"On some level, I'd like to think so, but I don't think that's the
case. We're dessert at the end of the news menu. I actually think
people who say they're getting their news from us say that as a way of
protesting what they see in the news. But I feel the media isn't a
monolith; there's good media and bad. We're just off to the side of it,
sitting at the back of the class making comments."
Opus Moreschi, who writes for The Colbert Report,
agreed. "I think if anyone's getting the news from either of our shows
then that's unfortunate. Because we're not there to provide news, we're
there to provide entertainment, obviously. But it may be that people
who see something on our show and want to learn more find their own
news sources and make up their minds. That to me is a pleasant side
effect of having comedy that informs. But if all they've got is our
punchline, they may walk away thinking Denny Hastert is apparently a
crossdresser and that's not accurate information... Wait, sorry, I'm
being told that he is."
J.R. Havlan, a comic who writes for The Daily Show
added, "I feel like comedy shows and satire, what they do is not inform
so much as help people learn how to watch and decipher the news. It's
not about watching us to learn what's going on but learning to see
what's going on and take it with a grain of salt -- that not everything
they see is the truth."
And so it went. There's lots more -- war stories, background on how the
shows are put together, interesting questions from the audience. You
can go to the C-SPAN website to view the whole thing.
But in the end, for all the analysis and commentary that have been
written about the late night shows, the bottom line remains: it's all
about the funny.
By the way, we didn't actually attend the White House Correspondents'
Dinner the next night, but did go to one of the after-parties at the
Corcoran Galley of Art, mobbed with more than 600 guests and roaring
with music at an ear-splitting pitch. We met a berobed Arabian prince
who had two of the most formidable body guards I'd ever seen, big and
impassive, like the statues on Easter Island.
Then we were straight-armed aside by an even larger phalanx of
black-suited security men. Who's coming through, we wondered -- a
cabinet member, Joe Biden, the President?
No, it was Eva Longoria, the diminutive but self-important star of Desperate Housewives.
Now that's funny.
Michael Winship
Michael Winship is the Schumann Senior Writing Fellow at the progressive news outlet Common Dreams, where he writes and edits political analysis and commentary. He is a Writers Guild East council member and its immediate past president and a veteran television writer and producer who has created programming for America's major PBS stations, CBS, the Discovery and Learning Channels, A&E, Turner Broadcasting, the Disney Channel, Lifetime, Sesame Workshop (formerly the Children's Television Workshop) and National Geographic, among others. In 2008, he joined his longtime friend and colleague Bill Moyers at Bill Moyers Journal on PBS and their writing collaboration has been close ever since. They share an Emmy and three Writers Guild Awards for writing excellence. Winship's television work also has been honored by the Christopher, Western Heritage, Genesis and CableACE Awards.
A
joke is a sometime thing, as wide as a church door or as delicate as a
rose. The right or wrong word, too many or too few, their placement or
emphasis can determine whether it's a total dud or fall down funny; the
difference, as Mark Twain said, between the lightning bug and lightning.
Too much explanation or thought can whip a joke to death, so it was
with trepidation that I went down to Washington last week with some
fellow members of the Writers Guild of America, East, the union of
which I'm president. I moderated a panel discussion of writers from The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report and Late Show with David Letterman, among others, to discuss news and late night comedy.
The driving impulse for all of this was the White House Correspondents'
Dinner last weekend, "The Nerd Prom," as it's become known, when
inside-the-Beltway journalists and their chummy government sources
cement their unholy alliance over rillettes and risotto. Over the last
few years it has become an Oscar-like event, with Hollywood migrating
east to hobnob with the stars of politics and commentary, distracting
each other into a trivial frenzy. And you wonder why we can't get
universal health care passed.
Toward the end of our strike last year, the Guild presented a successful event on Capitol Hill, a mock debate in which a team of Daily Show
writers representing the Guild went up against a Colbert team posing as
the studios and networks. Former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee
Myers moderated. Hilarity and mirth ensued.
This time we thought we'd hitch a ride on the hoopla around the
Correspondents' Dinner and succeeded. A crowd of several hundred showed
up at the Newseum on Pennsylvania Avenue. The Huffington Post streamed
live video and C-SPAN, which hadn't covered anything as funny since the
last hearings on horticulture and organic food safety standards,
videotaped the whole thing.
Not that you saw all of it. Parts of an hour of stand-up comedy by
Guild writers apparently were deemed a little too raunchy for the
followers of Brian Lamb and so when telecast, C-SPAN cut right to the
chase -- our panel discussion.
People have been making jokes about the news and having an impact on it
since the Greek playwright Aristophanes cracked wise about Socrates.
Now, the late night shows are affecting traditional journalism and
mainstream coverage of events, and influencing public opinion, more
than ever, whether it's John McCain dissing Letterman and appearing on
Katie Couric's newscast instead, President Obama on Jay Leno, or Tina
Fey imitating Sarah Palin to devastating effect on Saturday Night Live.
In March, a Rasmussen poll reported that nearly one-third of Americans
under 40 say they get more of their news from Jon Stewart, Stephen
Colbert and other late night comedy shows than they do from traditional
sources of news. The poll also found that 39% of the public says the
late night shows are making Americans more informed; 21% said they're
having the opposite effect.
Recently, in The Nation
magazine, media critic Eric Alterman noted that the late night programs
had been responsible for three of the most important and cathartic
media moments of the last decade: Jon Stewart's evisceration of
confrontational talk shows posing as political dialogue when he
appeared on the CNN show Crossfire
in October 2004 (which many believe hastened the program's demise);
Stephen Colbert's controversial speech at the correspondent's dinner
three years ago (in which he attacked the White House press corps'
cuddly relationship with President Bush); and Jon Stewart's recent
assault on CNBC's Jim Cramer and the misleading, uncritical coverage
presented by financial television news in the months leading up to the
crash.
Alterman wrote, "It's a sad -- almost terrifying -- comment on the
state of the American media that we have come to rely on these two
funnymen to tell us the truth about our country in the same way we
relied on Murrow in the '50s and Walter Cronkite in the '60s."
But as we began the panel, buzzing in my head were the sage and terrible words of the late, great New Yorker
magazine essayist, E. B. White: "Analyzing humor is like dissecting a
frog," he wrote. "Few people are interested and the frog dies of it."
Nonetheless, we plunged ahead. So, I asked, is late night comedy
telling us a truth that news can't? Are audiences turning to you for
news because you ask questions and make points the mainstream media
can't or won't?
"No," said my friend Tim Carvell from The Daily Show.
"On some level, I'd like to think so, but I don't think that's the
case. We're dessert at the end of the news menu. I actually think
people who say they're getting their news from us say that as a way of
protesting what they see in the news. But I feel the media isn't a
monolith; there's good media and bad. We're just off to the side of it,
sitting at the back of the class making comments."
Opus Moreschi, who writes for The Colbert Report,
agreed. "I think if anyone's getting the news from either of our shows
then that's unfortunate. Because we're not there to provide news, we're
there to provide entertainment, obviously. But it may be that people
who see something on our show and want to learn more find their own
news sources and make up their minds. That to me is a pleasant side
effect of having comedy that informs. But if all they've got is our
punchline, they may walk away thinking Denny Hastert is apparently a
crossdresser and that's not accurate information... Wait, sorry, I'm
being told that he is."
J.R. Havlan, a comic who writes for The Daily Show
added, "I feel like comedy shows and satire, what they do is not inform
so much as help people learn how to watch and decipher the news. It's
not about watching us to learn what's going on but learning to see
what's going on and take it with a grain of salt -- that not everything
they see is the truth."
And so it went. There's lots more -- war stories, background on how the
shows are put together, interesting questions from the audience. You
can go to the C-SPAN website to view the whole thing.
But in the end, for all the analysis and commentary that have been
written about the late night shows, the bottom line remains: it's all
about the funny.
By the way, we didn't actually attend the White House Correspondents'
Dinner the next night, but did go to one of the after-parties at the
Corcoran Galley of Art, mobbed with more than 600 guests and roaring
with music at an ear-splitting pitch. We met a berobed Arabian prince
who had two of the most formidable body guards I'd ever seen, big and
impassive, like the statues on Easter Island.
Then we were straight-armed aside by an even larger phalanx of
black-suited security men. Who's coming through, we wondered -- a
cabinet member, Joe Biden, the President?
No, it was Eva Longoria, the diminutive but self-important star of Desperate Housewives.
Now that's funny.
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