Ari & I: September 19, 2002

Russell Mokhiber questions White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer

Russell Mokhiber: Ari, you said earlier that "Democracy is God-given." Didn't Thomas Jefferson have something to do with it?

Ari Fleischer: I cited the Declaration of Independence and the author of our inalienable rights.

Mokhiber: Who is the author of our inalienable rights?

Ari Fleischer: That's what I said -- it's Jefferson.

Mokhiber: Oh, I thought you said "Democracy is God-given"?

Ari Fleischer: Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independent rights that we hold these truths, these self-evident truths that these rights were created by, given by the creator. Our Declaration of Independence says that.

Mokhiber: Second question. Has the Bush Administration estimated how many American soldiers and Iraqi civilians will be killed in the event of an invasion?

Ari Fleischer: The question the President worries about -- and much of the world worries about -- is how many people will be killed if Saddam Hussein is allowed to develop nuclear weapons. And he has a history of showing that once he gets his hands on a weapon, he uses it.

Mokhiber: But has the estimate been made by the Administration of how many American soldiers and Iraqi civilians will be killed if we invade?

Ari Fleischer: I'm not aware of it, I don't know, I'm not aware.

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