Lou Dobbs, American Hypocrite
Anti-immigration crusader Lou Dobbs has been relying on undocumented, illegal workers in his stables and homes
Research support for this article was provided by the Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute.
In Lou Dobbs's heyday at CNN, when he commanded more than 800,000
viewers and a reported $6 million a year for "his fearless reporting and
commentary," in the words of former CNN president Jonathan Klein, the
host became notorious for his angry rants against "illegal aliens." But
Dobbs reserved a special venom for the employers who hire them, railing
against "the employer who is so shamelessly exploiting the illegal alien
and so shamelessly flouting US law" and even proposing, on one April
2006 show, that "illegal employers who hire illegal aliens" should face
Since he left CNN last November, after Latino groups mounted a
protest campaign against his inflammatory rhetoric, Dobbs has continued
to advocate an enforcement-first approach to immigration, emphasizing,
as he did in a March 2010 interview on Univision, that "the illegal
employer is the central issue in this entire mess!"
His scheduled October 9 address at the Virginia Tea Party Convention
will mark his second major Tea Party address of the year, reviving
questions about whether the former CNN host is gearing up for an
electoral campaign. He recently told Fox's Sean Hannity that he has not
ruled out a possible Senate or even presidential run in 2012.
But with his relentless diatribes against "illegals" and their
employers, Dobbs is casting stones from a house-make that an estate-of
glass. Based on a yearlong investigation, including interviews with five
immigrants who worked without papers on his properties, The Nation
and the Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute have found that
Dobbs has relied for years on undocumented labor for the upkeep of his
multimillion-dollar estates and the horses he keeps for his 22-year-old
daughter, Hillary, a champion show jumper.
Dobbs lives in a sprawling white mansion on his 300-acre estate in
Sussex, New Jersey, where he and his family run a horse farm. In 2005 he
acquired another house-a spacious multimillion-dollar winter holiday
home in Eagle Isle, the most exclusive enclave of the Ibis Golf and
Country Club, a gated community in West Palm Beach, Florida. It offers
his daughter a place to stay during her competitions at the Wellington
Winter Equestrian Festival, one of the most important events in the
horse show world.
Dobbs's daughter keeps five European Warmbloods, a breed that often
fetches close to $1 million apiece. In the official results of her
competitions, her horses' owner is always listed as The Dobbs Group-a
corporate entity for which few details are available on the public
record. However, incorporation documents and other state records reveal
it to be a New Jersey company of which Lou Dobbs is president. This same
company also owns the copyright on Dobbs's books.
The upkeep of Dobbs's multiple properties creates no small demand for
labor in two sectors where undocumented immigrants are known to be
particularly prevalent. Jay Hickey, president of the American Horse
Council, the horse industry's main lobby group, suggested in 2009 that
more than half of the workers in his industry are likely undocumented.
Likewise, studies have found that undocumented workers make up an
estimated 28 percent of workers in landscaping. In both of these
sectors, the use of contractors is commonplace, so it is not surprising
that Dobbs has relied on third parties to supply the labor he needs.
Vicky Moon, author of A Sunday Horse: Inside the Grand Prix Show-Jumping Circuit,
explained that contracting out the care of one's horses "alleviates the
time involved in coordinating the horses' care, transport, and
management but it also removes the responsibility of hiring competent
grooms, providing housing and meals, possibly paying Social Security
taxes, health insurance and, most important, making extra sure they are
Dobbs has heaped scorn on the government for using contractors that
hire undocumented immigrants. On CNN in 2007, he called private firms
that oppose verification requirements for their contractors' employees
"ridiculous." Yet interviews with several such employees show that Dobbs
has been far from vigilant about the status of workers laboring on his
"I Looked After Dobbs's Horses While I Was Illegal"
This year, Hillary Dobbs became the youngest-ever horse show rider to
win $1 million in prize money. While all horses require extensive
maintenance, the labor entailed in the upkeep of competition horses like
the ones ridden by "Dobbs's million dollar baby" (as the New York Post dubbed Hillary) is particularly strenuous.
Every November, all five of The Dobbs Group's show-jumping horses
must be transported from their summer stables in Vermont to their winter
stables in Wellington, Florida. The workers are transported to the
tropics too, returning to New England with the horses in April. They
ride in trucks each way alongside their expensive equestrian charges,
tending to the horses' needs throughout the thirty-two-hour journey.
Their return to Vermont marks the start of a new annual circuit of horse
shows-an exhausting schedule during the spring, summer and fall months
that entails constant travel between their Vermont base and horse shows
around the country. At these shows, it is not unusual for the grooms who
care for Dobbs's horses to rise in the middle of the night or in the
predawn hours to clean, brush and prepare the horses for a training
session or early morning competition.
For years, undocumented immigrants from Mexico have been relied upon to meet these labor demands.
A 36-year-old Mexican immigrant I'll call Marco Salinas was working
with a group of horses in a stable at the bustling Wellington Winter
Equestrian Festival when I approached him for an interview. (Fearing
deportation or job loss, Salinas, like the other workers interviewed for
this story, asked that neither his real name nor the name of his
employer be used.) Several hours later, when he finished his ten-hour
workday, Salinas recounted how he had come to the United States five
years ago for a job. Seated on an outdoor bench near the stable, the
Mexico City native told the story of how he had crossed the Yuma Desert
on foot, from the Mexican city of San Luis Río Colorado and into the
United States, eluding the border patrol.
Salinas said he braved the journey for one reason-because he had the
promise of a job on the other end. An old friend of Salinas's worked as a
groom with some of the horses owned by Dobbs, and he had sent word that
Salinas could be hired on as a groom at the Vermont stable contracted
to care for the Dobbs Group horses.
Salinas got the job, he said, and worked at it for more than two
years without documents until he was finally able to obtain a
guest-worker visa designed for seasonal foreign workers (the same kind
of visa denounced as a form of "indentured servitude" on Dobbs's CNN
I asked Salinas, still clad in his work clothes-a polo shirt and
jeans-about Dobbs, the owner of the horses he cared for. But the father
of three simply flashed a disarming grin, let out an easygoing laugh and
politely declined to comment.
In his work as a groom for Dobbs's horses, Salinas said he regularly
started at 5 am and did not get off until after 6 in the evening.
According to Pedro Gomez, another undocumented worker, who cared for
Dobbs Group horses in Vermont and Florida, the workday during horse
shows like the three-month-long Wellington Winter Equestrian Festival
was typically twelve hours or longer.
I caught up with Gomez, who cared for Dobbs's horses for a year in
2008 and 2009, at a different Florida stable, where he now works. A
native of the Oaxaca region of Mexico, Gomez, now 24, came to the United
States to work when he was only 18. Seated on a plastic chair in the
dim stable, wearing baggy blue jeans and a T-shirt, he told me he
desperately wants legal status. "My situation with immigration is bad,"
he said, "because I [still] don't have papers." For him, documentation
would mean "better work."
When Gomez worked for the Vermont-based stable contracted by Lou
Dobbs, his wages were $500 per week, and he typically worked sixty-five
hours, meaning he was earning only slightly above minimum wage. During
shows in which Gomez was caring for the Dobbs Group horses, Dobbs's
daughter would sometimes give him a $100 weekly tip, according to Gomez.
But he says he was never paid overtime.
While there is some disagreement over whether federal labor laws
apply to horse stable workers, according to West Palm Beach labor lawyer
Jill Hanson, the working conditions described by these stable workers
likely violate both the federal Fair Labor Standards Act-which requires
time-and-a-half pay for hours worked beyond a forty-hour workweek-and a
Florida law that requires overtime pay for any workday longer than ten
I sat down with Marco Esperanza, 39, another Mexican worker who cared
for Dobbs Group horses, after hours in the stable where he was then
working in Wellington, Florida. Seated on the concrete barn floor, his
back against the wooden siding of a horse stall, he explained that the
work requires him to "be available twenty-four hours a day." When a
horse is sick, Esperanza said, "it doesn't matter what time it is: in
the night or at dawn, you have to check the horse. You always, always
have to be at work." When I asked whether he had a green card or
guest-worker visa while he worked for the stable hired by Dobbs, he
shook his head: "I looked after Dobbs's horses while I was illegal."
At the Vermont stable that cared for the Dobbs Group horses from
spring through autumn while Gomez worked there, the workers lived right
at the horse barn. This arrangement has benefits, as Gomez points out;
for example, the workers don't have to pay rent. However, according to
Gomez, their quarters-a two-bedroom apartment on the top floor of the
barn-were extremely crowded. When Gomez lived there, nine workers were
packed into the small apartment, and he had to share a bedroom with four
When I asked whether the Dobbs family knew that undocumented workers
were caring for their horses, Gomez responded by saying that at least in
the case of Hillary Dobbs, "I believe she knew." The stable owner knew
"that some people didn't have papers," Gomez said, and had even taken
precautions to keep the workers away from the immigration agents who
often patrol the areas around horse shows. Gomez said it was hard to
believe that Dobbs's daughter, who was in close contact with these
undocumented workers almost every weekend, could have been unaware of
Hillary Dobbs did not respond to repeated attempts to contact her for comment.
"The Pay Is Bad" for Work in Dobbs's Gardens
Nor are stable workers the only undocumented immigrants who have
worked on Dobbs's properties. Rodrigo Ortega, a native of Chiapas,
Mexico, who has lived and worked in the United States for fourteen
years, was busy tending the immaculate garden of a large luxury home
under the blazing afternoon sun when I approached him. Though he had
been working since 7 am, he agreed to talk once his ten-hour workday
Speaking with The Nation in a Mexican restaurant where
Univision blared in the background, Ortega, who had worked for a Florida
company contracted by Dobbs to do garden maintenance on his West Palm
Beach property, described himself as "an immigrant who doesn't have
papers." Ortega said he had been responsible for "cutting the grass,
cutting the trees, cleaning the garden-all the garden work" at Dobbs's
house for more than three years.
Ortega, who was one of approximately fifteen Latin American employees
of the company, recalled meeting Dobbs one day while he was working on
his garden: "He told me, in Spanish, that his name was Luis." According
to Ortega, the two had a brief interaction, during which Dobbs
instructed him to tell his boss that a certain plant needed to be moved
in the garden.
Ortega said his status was far from a secret. His employer "knew very
well that the majority of us didn't have papers," he said, but this was
"never a problem." Employees of the landscaping firm "never needed to
have a good Social Security number" as a condition of work, he said.
Nor were they ever paid the overtime they are entitled to under
federal labor laws, although they typically worked a fifty-hour week,
plus a monthly shift on a Saturday.
In a telephone interview, Jorge Garcia, a 24-year-old Guatemalan
immigrant who worked for seven years at the same landscaping company,
said that he and his brother had also regularly worked on Dobbs's
property. The two brothers worked two and a half to three hours each
week for more than three years on the upkeep of the lawns, gardens and
trees at Dobbs's house, Garcia said. He was hired to do that work even
though, he said, "I don't have papers." Neither did his brother.
Originally from the town of Momostenango in Guatemala's department of
Totonicapán, Jorge came to the United States looking for work seven
years ago. His brother Miguel, now 27, followed him soon after. As Jorge
explained, the two of them had family they needed to support back home,
including Miguel's wife and three children.
But at his hourly wage of $9, Jorge said, he was "not able to save
much money" after covering his rent and bills. Miguel was making only $8
an hour. "The pay is bad," Jorge said. "There are no benefits, there's
no medical coverage-nothing." Yet the landscaping work was sometimes
dangerous, he said, especially when workers were required to prune
Dobbs's trees and taller bushes.
Jorge said that he'd come to America to earn better wages-"to live
better." However, his experience working as a landscaper, on Dobbs's and
other properties, was "the opposite" of that.
During one of Dobbs's many shows devoted to immigration, in April
2006, the host described $10 an hour as "a decent wage, not, in my
opinion, an adequate wage, but a decent wage." He then turned to his
viewers with a pointed question: "How much more would you be willing to
pay each year for fruits and vegetables if it would improve working
conditions and raise wages for farmworkers?"
At the time Dobbs said that, an undocumented Guatemalan worker
laboring in his own yard, Miguel Garcia, was being paid only $8 an hour.
Responding to The Nation's request for comment from Lou Dobbs, Chad Wilkinson, producer of The Lou Dobbs Show,
said by e-mail that "Lou will not be commenting for the piece." Dobbs's
attorney, Robert Zeller, clarified by e-mail that Dobbs would only
answer questions if posed on his live radio show. (The Nation agreed to appear on the show but only after publication of this article.)
I asked Mike Sedlak, the owner of Sedlak Landscaping, the contractor
that maintains the grounds on Dobbs's West Palm Beach property, whether
Dobbs has ever inquired about the status of his employees. Sedlak said
only, "I don't feel comfortable talking about it," and quickly got off
I also asked Missy Clark, the owner of North Run Farm, the stable in
Warren, Vermont, where the Dobbs Group horses are housed, whether Dobbs
or his daughter had ever inquired about the immigration status of the
workers caring for Hillary's horses. She said, "They're very well aware
that the people taking care of the horses are 100 percent legal," and
said she'd given the Dobbs family assurances to that effect. But she
later described her difficulty obtaining work visas for many of her
employees. "It was a big process and a total pain in the neck," she
said. "I had been working on it for years."
According to Christine Biederman, a Dallas-based immigration lawyer
hired by Clark to obtain visas for North Run's employees, a California
law firm Clark had initially hired had failed to deliver on visas it
promised its clients and had gone out of business. Biederman took over
and finally filed the visa applications for Clark's workers in June
2009, including for workers caring for Dobbs Group horses. It took three
months for these H-2B visa applications to be processed, Biederman
When asked whether the workers who look after Dobbs's horses had
legal immigration status before then, Biederman declined to comment.
"Imprisoned in a Palace"
Immigration attorney Laurie Volk explained that immigrant workers in
jobs designated "low-skilled" are caught in a bind because "there's a
demand for their work, but there's no way for them to do it legally."
"There's no visa categories-or there's limited visas-for unskilled
labor," she said.
For undocumented workers who have been in the United States for more
than a year without status, being apprehended by immigration authorities
poses a risk of being deported and barred from re-entry for ten years.
That risk was very real for many of the workers who labored on Dobbs's
properties, since many of them were in the United States for several
years without status. The risks of apprehension were particularly great
for the stable workers, whose work caring for the Dobbs Group horses
forced them to travel constantly-including to border areas closely
monitored by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.
Salinas traveled back to see his three kids and wife in Mexico on
four occasions, but to avoid being apprehended he had to travel by bus,
an exceptionally long journey from Vermont. For his part, Gomez is so
afraid he will not be able to return to the United States that he has
not seen his mother and brothers at all since immigrating six years ago,
at the age of 18.
To avoid the risk associated with driving while undocumented, most of
the workers interviewed for this piece don't ever drive, which imposes
upon their lives an extreme isolation, given that Dobbs's horses are
stabled in rural Vermont. Workers relied on their manager to transport
them once a week to buy groceries at a store a half-hour's drive away.
As Gomez told me, "Here one can't leave." This arrangement left the
stable workers feeling, as Esperanza put it, like they were "imprisoned
in a palace."
Yet even such precautions as not driving and not traveling home are
no guarantee of safety. On the morning of October 5, 2009, Miguel Garcia
was arrested by undercover ICE agents while he was on his way to his
work cleaning Miami office buildings. (After four years of landscaping
at Dobbs's and other properties, he'd quit because of the low pay.) "He
was waiting for the train-nothing more," his brother Jorge explained.
"They brought him to the jail." After a week in immigration detention,
Miguel was deported to Guatemala.
Dobbs has long championed such enforcement measures. Yet according to
Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, a UCLA professor and author of a recent Center for
American Progress report, "Raising the Floor for American Workers,"
these measures "only serve to push undocumented workers further under
the table, lowering their wages and the wages of native workers as
Commenting on this scapegoating of undocumented workers,
Hinojosa-Ojeda remarked, "The irony is that the biggest users of
services of the undocumented are affluent white people." In the case of
Lou Dobbs, who made his name and his fortune lambasting "illegals" and
their employers, the irony is breathtaking.