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Immigrants Occupy! Broadening a Movement Culture
The Occupy movements around the country have touched different communities in different ways, resonating with local issues as well as bringing local folks to the front lines of a national struggle for economic justice. For many immigrant communities, everyday struggles with the legal system and the economic crisis encapsulate some of the core issues driving the Occupy ethos. Yet those same issues can be a hindrance to organizing.
As the protests picked up momentum back in October, John Michael Torres, an activist from McAllen, Texas, a low-income largely Latino community, told NPR’s Latino USA:
[L]ittle by little people are starting to understand that this is a big deal… But at the same time you have people who maybe don’t have a TV in their house. Who don’t have the Internet… So in a very poor area of the country, you have that disconnect from what’s going on in the rest of the country. Which is why it’s so important that we’re out there in public spaces, that we’re not relying on the mass media to tell our own stories, but we’re inviting people to come and sit down with us, to participate, to share their own stories as well.
Back at Ground Zero of OWS, Fox News Latino reported:
Occupy groups, who have said they need Hispanics and other immigrants to rally to their cause, have realized that the growing number of arrests could frighten undocumented immigrants – and they’ve taken steps to make sure they aren’t a neglected group.
Mariano Muñoz, who is part of the Spanish assembly for Occupy Wall Street in New York, said it is an issue they are aware of and trying to address.
He said immigration training classes are offered to undocumented who want to join, where legal experts and lawyers address any questions they may have, any issues they could face and how to deal with worst-case-scenario cases. The classes offer police procedure and immigration rights instruction.
“Once they know the issues and are aware of the risks, it is up to the people to make up their mind,” Muñoz said. “Sometimes, the issues and the cause are more important than deportation.”
Teresa Puente recently wrote in In These Times that the convergence between the immigrant rights struggle and Occupy is growing increasingly profound, even as rifts within the movement–across culture, ethnicity and class–grow more apparent:
In New York, protests have attracted individuals who are passionate about immigration reform. Natalia Fajardo, 27, traveled to the city from Burlington, Vt., to spend a Sunday afternoon at Zuccotti Park with her sister, Laura, who came up from Florida. Fajardo works for an organization called Justicia Migrante, a group that advocates for lettuce workers in Vermont.
“The [Occupy] movement was started by mostly middle-class and white people who are impacted by the high cost of education, cuts in public services. These are things that people in the immigrant community have dealt with for a long time,” says Fajardo, a native of Colombia. “We all know these themes impact us equally.”
Tania Unzueta, a leader of the Immigrant Youth Justice League in Chicago, is among the DREAM Act activists protesting immigration policy locally and nationally. She says her family–her father and sister are also activists–and many immigrant youth are not joining the Occupy movement because there is so much work to do in the immigrant rights movement. “All of a sudden people are saying ‘We are part of the 99%,’” Unzueta says. “But we have been saying that for a long time, and nobody has been listening to us.”
But is Occupy speaking to them? New America Media’s round-up of coverage in ethnic community news outlets shows ambivalence, but also growing consciousness, among California’s Asian American community:
Oakland Chinatown Neighborhood Crime Prevention Council president Carl Chan said the shutdown of the Oakland Port has diverted cargo ships to ports in Los Angeles and other cities. That’s forcing many businesses to have to pay for transferring the cargo to the Bay Area. Small business owners belonging to the 99 percent are financially hurt.
Still, some ethnic media say the Occupy movement has captured the imagination of readers, and brought the issues of class, the wealth gap and poverty to the forefront of public debate.
Giao Pham, managing editor of Nguoi Viet based in Westminster, Calif., said his Vietnamese daily continues to track the Occupy movement, because there’s interest in the community.
“People recognize that the movement is getting bigger and they discuss the meaning of the movement,” he said. “The Vietnamese community here in the U.S., we’re new and not rich. People discuss the one percent and the 99 percent, which they belong to.”
The obstacles to organizing stem from social barriers ranging from race to geography, but they also reflect the shortcomings of a movement culture that fails to be as inclusive as it claims. Fortunately this is turning around on the new cultural front that the Occupy protests have generated. Participants are by necessity constantly inventing new modes of communication, dialogue, and creative protest. On December 18, International Migrants Day, Occupy activists will march in the Immigrants Occupy! Rally, led by the Immigrant Workers Justice Working Group of Occupy Wall Street. The poster for the event says it all, and in more than one language.
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Show AllAmerican voters must be among the most ignorant voters in the world. They keep voting in Republicans or Democrats who are bank rolled by the same elite who have been tag-team raping them for years.
They can't see that the same 1% who rape them are the same 1% who rape the undocumented.
Failed immigration is created and designed by the elite who run both governments. This is no different than failed mortgages, failed health care, loss of jobs, and our failing economy. This insidious 1% causes these failures because they profit at the expense of both the US taxpayers and the Mexican undocumented.
Are American voters really so propagandized that they can't figure out why not one single U.S. politician criticizes the Mexican government for anything? The undocumented would not come or stay here if that filthy, corrupt co-trading partner of the American elite would take care of its own citizens. The majority of undocumented care deeply about their families and would stay at home if they could make a decent living wage working with their families.
Its about bi-national drug profits, trade, oil, remittances, the privatization of prisons, cheap labor, weapons profit, NAFTA, and a 40 year long political platform that only sways back and forth, and never forward.
I invite OWS to embrace the undocumented who are protesting. Shame on both these pitiful governments who fail to address the immigration nightmare that they profit from.
Thanks for the excellent posts.
To "embrace the undocumented" would be to embrace the Wall Street low-wage policy that hurts all of us, especially the unemployed, underemployed, working poor and homeless. Ethnic and racial minorities are over-represented in those groups. You would seemingly oppose slavery by encouraging more of it.
By that logic, embracing any working class people would be to embrace the Wall Street low-wage policy, since we are all subject to the exact same dynamic.
You would seemingly oppose slavery by opposing some of the slaves.
To follow the analogy:
I oppose slavery by proposing to free the slaves, and end slavery.
You oppose slavery by proposing to drop restrictions on the importation of slaves.
You don't stop the slave trade by attacking those slaves. You are making a false analogy.
I am calling for dropping the restrictions on the slaves, not on the slave owners.
Close the border to wealthy people from the US and investment money from the US. That will end the "immigration problem." That would mean going after the 1% rather than scapegoating a group of people from the 99%.
I support Labor being free to move, and restrictions being placed on Capital and Empire. It is Capital and Empire that are causing the dislocations.
I support poor working class people having the freedom of movement now enjoyed by wealthy people.
I support working class people moving to better opportunity. I oppose the owners being free to move to cheaper labor, and to play one group of workers off of another.
Well said!
"The Occupy Wall Street movement protests all forms of corporate greed and tyranny. It should also protest the abuse of the bi-national (U.S. / Mexico) corporate elite who not only rape the good tax paying citizens of the United States, but the good hard working people of Mexico too."
Absolutely!
OWS Immigrant Worker Justice Working Group
nycga.net/groups/immigrant-worker-justice
We bring the voices and struggles of New York City’s immigrant workers–members of the 99%–to Occupy Wall Street. In solidarity with OWS and the immigration and labor movements, we lift up the particular organizing campaigns and concerns of immigrant workers. We believe that all labor should be honored and that all workers, regardless of immigration status, deserve equal rights and dignity. We recognize globalized capital–in the form of financial institutions, multinational corporations, and neoliberal state economic policies–as the impetus for economic migration to the United States, and deplore the fact that banks and corporations, supported by the government, continue to profit from immigrant detention and deportation. The leadership and participation of immigrant workers is necessary for any discussion of social, economic, and environmental justice.
"Are all men created equal? If that is to be a cherished national value, then the color of a person's skin, his religion, and the location of his mother at the time of his birth are all irrelevant. Prejudice based on geography is no more acceptable than prejudice based on race, creed, ethnicity, or economic status."
Quoted from BANNED IN VERMONT
Thank you for this.
I remember hearing some pro-amnesty loudmouth from the early days of OWS on DemocracyNow and wondering when the movement would be co-opted. Chen, another cheap-labor mouthpiece, makes it official. Illegals don't care about anything other than scamming our system. Latin America society is not about honesty vs corruption; it's about lesser corruption vs greater corruption. I guess that would be OK if the their culture brought something to the table. But then again, that is not their intention.
You sure are generalizing, I have lived next to a Mexican family for thirty years, they lived in their house when we bought our house in 1982. Their son has done two tours in Iraq. They are the most helpful people in our neighborhood, my best neighbors. I doubt if both parents are legal and I am sure they are afraid of the type of behavior we have seen by the cops. I am sure there are bad immigrants but I would take pepper spray for my Mexican friends any day! It wasn't that many years ago that many of the immigrants with no papers were Irish, they were known to become cops!
If your neighbors were living here in 1982 they were no doubt granted amnesty (citizenship) after the 1986 comprehensive immigration reform bill was passed. They are U.S. citizens with full rights.
In 1986 there were an estimated 1 million illegal aliens in the U.S. and that was considered a huge problem. (Reagan didn't like the idea of amnesty but signed the bill because of other provisions which were designed to put an end to illegal migration by "turning off the jobs magnet." The law provided for financial penalties for illegal employers and enhanced enforcement.)
In the end, 3 million illegal aliens were granted amnesty. Sadly, the illegal employers continued their illegal practices and an additional 12-20 million migrants entered the U.S. illegally, making things worse for the 3 million new citizens and millions of other Americans who have lost their jobs or seen their wages and benefits slashed.
Illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal.
Are you paying no attention?
The government is trying to make all of us "illegals"
So, the answer is LESS illegality, not more, as you would encourage.
The answer is to stop calling people "illegals" and stop giving more and more power and discretion to the agents of the police state. It will someday be turned on you.
Well, I'm a New Mexico native and grew up with, went to school with and dated Mexican-Americans. I live next to, work with and socialize with Mexican-Americans. Funny thing is, the fact that they're Mexican-American is incidental, they don't wear it on their sleeve and their parents emphasized assimilation into American society probably just like the early Euro-immigrants did. Some can't even speak Spanish or know very little.
My gripe is with this wave of low-class mestizos who bring the third-world to my area. A law enforcement friend once told me that most gang members and other present criminals were a result of the last amnesty in the 80's. They were children brought into this world with the same mestizo ethos from where their parents came. Yes, there are some success stories but even the Pew admits the whole culture is behind the curve. The seem comfortable in their insularity and underclass, it's a perverse source of pride for them. I don't know why we should give validity to any group that insists on being the lowest common denominator. Sorry.
Well, I'm a South Carolina native and grew up with, went to school with and dated some free African-Americans. I live next to, work with and socialize with African-Americans. Funny thing is, the fact that they're African-Americans is incidental, they don't wear it on their sleeve and their parents emphasized assimilation into American society probably just like the early Euro-immigrants did. Some don't even speak with Black accents.
My gripe is with this wave of low-class slave Negroes who bring the plantation mentality to my area. A law enforcement friend once told me that most gang members and other present criminals were a result of the Emancipation of the slaves. They were children brought into this world with the plantation slave ethos from where their parents came. Yes, there are some success stories but even the social surveys show that the whole culture is behind the curve. They seem comfortable in their insularity and underclass, it's a perverse source of pride for them. I don't know why we should give validity to any group that insists on being the lowest common denominator. Sorry.
OK, so you don't like Black people, and you call me a racist. How can you deny the contributions of African-Americans? Jazz, art, literature, science, medicine etc and an historical struggle and sacrifice that your beloved mestizos could never begin to understand. Where's their MLK? Or is it you? When I listen to MLK speeches I feel inspired; when I listen to some loud-mouthed La Raza type demanding this and that, I'm repulsed. Unlike your mestizos, African-Americans didn't ask for an exception or special consideration they only wanted what was long overdue. You do all African-Americans a great injustice.
Two Americas: " My gripe is with this wave of low-class slave Negroes who bring the plantation mentality to my area"
WTf?.
It was a parody.
How could anyone have missed that?
"It was a parody."
TA,
Rather obvious to this reader.
Thomas Gilbert-
Thank you.
Clearly, if my post was objectionable, then I am correct when I say that the post I was parodying was, as well.
It is a little disturbing to see extremely racist and bigoted posts here at CD day after day with so few people objecting to them.
No, I think you're just disturbed at the fact that people disagree with you. You don't have to reply, two -that's the best response. The more you reply the more you reveal yourself as a sanctimonious twit. Your experiences as well as mine are equally valid.
TA,
Unfortunately, it is par for the course here at cd. Certain topics guarantee the active participation of the intolerant. Personally, I just ignore them. ( or try my best to do so)
Keep writing TA. You need not debate everyone. Sometimes it is pointless to do so.
Take Care,
Thomas Gilbert-
Dante, I agree with what you said especially after looking up the offenders on their posting history. According to the records, "logitech" has been posting mainly rightwing talking points and has a history of trolling on any article even remotely related to immigration. "Naturally" is another animal who can be almost as bad and worse in some cases. "Naturally" and I got into a big fight a long time ago on the issue of politics and participation. According to "Naturally", we must always "contact" our members of Congress and the president, judge by the labels, and then blame ourselves for the pols screwing up. I was at first upset and angry but later found "Naturally" to be a Hillarybot, disingenuous what with his selective quoting, dishonesty and possible racism based on his posting history under immigration articles, and a bully against many other CD regulars. Based on his posts, "Naturally" thinks he "knows" Nader best but loses it when he calls for putting politics over principle, something that Nader would NEVER do. Nader would also never call for draconian policies against immigration despite "Naturally" selectively quoting him and spinning his words. ProgressivePopulist usually writes well most of the time; however, his posts on this thread have turned me off. I think that I could reason with ProgressivePopulist but would rather continue to avoid Naturally/logitech like the plague.
P.S.: I remember you from a long time ago and welcome back if you returned. I myself was away for several months this year after getting so sick and tired of seeing the discussions often times turning into either unnecessary flame war contest or a domestic abuse war zone. Last month, on another forum, when I was up against a bullying poster, some good poster who says that he was a spiritual psychologist gave me this to follow on how to ignore rude and insensitive posters as I can turn the other cheek but am not thick skinned.
http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/how-to-ignore-rude-comments-3696.html
" I think that I could reason with ProgressivePopulist..."
Of course you can. I'm reasonable, I'm open-minded, I don't have any dogmas to defend at all costs, and I try to stick to factually based argument and avoid personal attacks to the best of my ability.
Take a look at my last post below (or any of my longer previous ones) and tell me where you think I've made mistakes in my reasoning. I post here to work out my thoughts, improve them through the "competition of ideas," and to get constructive feedback.
I realize my position on immigration goes against the grain of those who support open borders, but if you read my posts carefully, I don't think you can rationally argue that I am "anti-immigrant."
I would like to see all illegal immigrants established here get a path to citizenship and full civil and human rights. Nobody should be locked in a vulnerable, exploitable, inescapable, second-class position in any society.
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I also however think open borders is just not feasible, socially or politically. Socially, open borders would provide exactly what the 1% would love to have--more workers, cheaper labor, a divided working class, more impediments to unionization, all leading to higher-profits and even more extreme disparities in wealth and social power.
Politically, open borders is a non-starter. There is simply too much opposition to it, like it or not. Calling for open borders, as Two Americas does with such holier-than-thou fervor, is thus counter-productive to progressive interests; it makes rational, compassionate immigration reform even more difficult. It is a terribly divisive position as well as a futile one.
I have proposed a compromise position (see my last post) which has great appeal outside the small extremes of die-hard anti-immigrant folks and die-hard open-border advocates. It is a common- sense position and despite the artificially created political polarization in this country, most Americans are temperamentally moderate, practical and commonsensical.
We live in a world of national states, international law and nationalist popular sentiments---this is a reality that will not change for a very long time, if ever. Most Americans will identify themselves as Americans long before they identify themselves as simply "workers" in solidarity with all the other "workers" in the world. Americans have many identities--national, ethnic, religious, regional, familial, political; occupational, physical, sexual, gender-related, sub-cultural, artistic, philosophical, stylistical, spiritual, etc., very few people want to consider their social role as a "worker" to be the *essence* of their self-identity. Some Marxian thinkers might call all those "non-worker" self-identities to be forms of "false consciouness"--but they are sadly mistaken on that point, as history has proven innumerable times to their chagrin.
The idea of a borderless world with free-flow of "workers" is the dream, oddly enough, of both free market fundamentalists and one-world "workers state" socialists. Both of those forms of extremist, unrealistic (dystopic in my view) ideologies play into the hands of the 1% transnational capitalist class who take what serves them to rationalize their plunder and oppression, and discard the rest.
I see what you are saying and you have my respect even on disagreements. My issue, and likely the same issue for most of us here, is that focusing too much on open vs closed borders reminds me of "shoot first ask later". I cannot speak for everyone but I would suggest putting the focus mainly on reigning in the trade pacts, strengthening labor laws and union rights, not tolerating Washington meddling with other nation's elections, etc... . Putting up border walls should be the very last resort. Thank you for your thoughtful posts
"My issue, and likely the same issue for most of us here, is that focusing too much on open vs closed borders reminds me of "shoot first ask later".
I would agree... the issue of open borders received my focus largely because of Two America's multiple vehement posts on that point. I certainly agree that "reigning in the trade pacts, strengthening labor laws and union rights, not tolerating Washington meddling with other nation's elections, etc" are critical tasks for progressives.
"Putting up border walls should be the very last resort. " True. But to be fair, I focused on employer sanctions, not walls, and only as part of comprehensive immigration reform including a path to citizenship etc. etc. While perhaps not as important as the other issues you raised, for the illegal immigrants here trapped in a cage of illegality, without full rights and protections, and subject to abuse and exploitation, a path to citizenship for millions of people should not be considered an inconsequential policy proposal.
Furthermore, while I don't agree with logitech on many points, not the least of which is his/her aggressive tone and seeming lack of compassion, I think it would be unwise to ignore the sources of his/her anger or dismiss his/her complaints outright.
Finding a way to end the "low wage policy" Ralph Nader talked about, with all its concomitant deleterious effects on other progressive causes and the progressive movement itself, certainly requires a rational, compassionate, compromising approach to ending illegal immigration and taking control over immigration flows in general.
Most of the issues you raised are intricately connected with immigration issues, so I don't think it is wise to ignore immigration thinking that other issues are more pressing and important.
Politically, progressives need a rational, coherent position on immigration--and one that has broad *populist* appeal, imho.
In any case, thank you for considering my ideas.
"I remember you from a long time ago and welcome back if you returned."
Thank You, Jennifer,
I been here all along (reading) but not posting as much as I did in the past. I tell people here that I gave up writing mini-dissertations (on CD) two years ago. Now, I am content to sit back and read the mini-dissertations of others.LOL I rarely comment....because commenting would require criticism at some point.. and criticism puts one back in the mini-dissertation business. (pretentious language and all). lol
Jennifer, we are blessed here on CD to have many fine thinkers/writers sharing their ideas in this tiny comment community. Some of our writers, easily put the main article writers to shame. I know I have said this many times; the writings of several of our commentators (here on CD) are usually more interesting than the writings of the authors whose articles are being commented on. Many times I am tempted to skip the article and go straight to the comment threads.
As for certain posters expressing ideas (and/or manners) we simply cannot accept, we can chose to not respond. This is a comment thread and not a debating society... Debate is optional and not required.. Although, the exercise of that which is optional does, at times,make for some very interesting reading.
Jennifer, great hearing from you again and I am looking forward to reading more of your comments in the future.
Thomas Gilbert-
"Many times I am tempted to skip the article and go straight to the comment threads."
I used to do that most of the time in my earlier days on this site. Nowadays, I choose to read the articles first and read the comments slowly for the following reasons:
1. Great posters such as RichM, Visiting Professor, Jill, etc... "missing". :.(
2. Too many personal fights and rude attacks especially on the spiritual articles.
3. Content of the articles can sometimes be our greatest helper in verbally defending our positions. This article is a perfect example considering the anti-immigrant trolls.
Are you "channeling" thru Dante?
You drop in here spread "$hit" about people and don't even have the honesty to confront them directly. Oh, that's right, you can hide behind your PC "bullying" accusations. Drop the "spiritual psychology" and get some courage and conviction instead, Jennifer.
You and Dante are truly a pair.....
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I guess you're easily amused.
Parody implies humor and wit. Two's reply was clumsy and sophomoric in any editorial sense.
I wrote a parody of your post.
I think you must know that, but perhaps not.
I wrote word-for-word what you posted, with the only change being the group of people being targeted for bigoted and hateful statements.
If you, and others apparently, object to what I wrote, then that makes my case more strongly than I could ever do myself.
Riiiight....
Two Americas is not who or what he says. We know he's from Venezuela, and he has no respect for truthfulness. He's a troll.
Logitech, do you know what 'mestizo,' means? Some would say it is a mixture of indigenous and Spanish, some would say, indigenous-Spanish-African? But, here's the question I will pose for you? How do you know they are Mestizo? This is something that baffles me quite a bit. One thing you should know before you just call people Mestizo, is that they may not be Mestizo! Did you know that there are a lot of Jordanians and other ME countries that have been in Central America for well over one hundred years? Again, you say Mestizo, this is a trick question - how do you know they are not Filipino? Your law enforcement friend, well, did he tell you that some of those people that came here in the 80s, I assume you are referring to people from El Salvador, that their country was in civil war - something we had a hand in? Also, not all received amnesty, some are still on TPS (temporary protective status). And did your friend tell you that as far as being gang members, that maybe some did form/join gangs for protection here in the U.S.? Meaning protection from the people here that meant to do them harm! And your remarks about 'same ethos..' try doing your homework on this one, it is alleged that we trained them as paramilitary. It is very, very sad, in fact, it is downright reprehensible to accuse people of being comfortable in a lifestyle that others view as 'pitiful.' Wow! Even more shocking is that you say no one should give them validity - is this the way you really feel about people? That if they don't meet certain standards of yours, just write them off, let them rot? I will say this in getting away from this type of awful reason of yours, I'll bet you that the people you are referring to know how to love their families - this is something that is lacking in most minority communities because we have all been pitted against each other, men have been killed by police or sent to prison, kids put into foster homes/juvie, and kids of immigrants are stripped from their parents due to deportations.
Hi skinny. Your reply amounts to nothing more than the typical PC scolding so I'll keep my response short.
Like many others here you probably live "up north" or "back east". I can only convey my experiences living in a border state. I'm sorry my experiences don't reconcile with your idealized version of egalitarianism. The reality on the ground is quite different. Don't believe all their talking points.
Logitech,
Sorry! That wasn't my intention! Notice, I said sorry, and not 'IF." I'm in California (notice I use Califas), this is a border state as well - via San Diego.
I was making the point about how do you look at someone and determine where they are from! I stress this, because a few years ago, I went to San Diego with some friends, and on the way back to the I.E (Inland Empire - Riverside/San Berdo Counties), the border patrol stopped up - and I was the only one asked for I.D., sometimes I am mistaken by people from Mexico-Central America to be from either their country-or one of the Latin American countries. To make this point further, when Mariah Carey first began singing - people thought she was white. Actress Jennifer Beals from the movie Flashdance - people thought she was white, some thought she was non-black. To go even further, notice how when people from India first came here, some (not all) were mistaken to be black (half-black) and they got offended. Look at singer Sade, her features - you'd think she was half-Asian (like maybe Chinese...) and half-black when she is half-African and half-white. I've met Persians (people from Iran) that look Italian, Puerto Rican...so, that's the point I'm making.
"Their culture?" "Their intention?" "Scamming our system?" "Illegals?"
This is an unbelievably bigoted post, not to mention reactionary and in opposition to working class aspirations.
You blame displaced workers for the corrupt owners and rulers in Latin America - propped up by the US government.
You blame the workers for cheap labor, rather than management. You fail to see that it is the corporations seeking cheap labor that is causing the displacements, and that it is US corporations that are fostering the corporation which is also causing people to be displaced - or you don't care, or you are deeply sympathetic to management
Their culture doesn't bring anything to the table? Unbelievable. And what does your "American" culture bring to the table?
If you represent Occupy, it is in serious need of being co-opted - by humanitarianism and sanity.
Do a list of contributions of Euro-Americans/African-American and Latinos , landscaping doesn't count. Mestizos don't invent, engineer, research; their art/music is primitive, unless you like tattoos; they do have some well received literary contributions. As a whole I view them as a somewhat insular and sullen underclass. Sorry.
This is blatantly racist commentary.
Spare us the false indignation; you've played your race card too many times here on CD. It means nothing. You advocate for the welfare of illegal immigrants only, you could care less about the working class. In fact your username is divisive in itself and indicates you may be a reconquista advocate and possibly latino.
I am "possibly Latino" and therefore suspect?
Add possibly paranoid.....
I have to agree with Two Americas on your comment.
The babe in the woods speaks; rather tentatively I might add.
Not tentatively. I just didn't want to get into an argument with you and waste yet more precious minutes of my life.