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It’s Getting Real in the Eurozone: Self-Inflicted Recession Threatens World Economy
The economic news out of the eurozone is getting worse every day, and so is the contagion to the rest of the world. The OECD (Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development), the club of 34 mostly high-income countries, has now lowered its projection for eurozone growth for 2012 from 2 percent (in May) to just 0.2 percent. According to their report, the 17-member eurozone economy already “appears to be in a mild recession.” For the U.S., the forecast for next year was lowered from 3 percent to 2.1 percent.
Forecasts for China, India, and Brazil have also been lowered significantly since May. From Asia to Latin America, the problems of the eurozone are reverberating as international banks contract credit, big investment projects are canceled or postponed, stock markets and real estate prices fall, and investor and consumer confidence drops.
And the OECD projections assume that Europe “muddles through” its current financial crisis without any significant financial disaster. But as the eurozone economy worsens, this assumption gets increasingly less tenable.
The simplest solution to the crisis is for the European Central Bank (ECB) to buy enough of the Italian and Spanish debt – and possibly other eurozone countries’ debt – to push down interest rates to a safe level. On Tuesday, Italy paid a record 7.89 percent yield for three-year bonds that it auctioned, well above the 7 percent level that was seen as a threshold for Greece, Ireland and Portugal to move from market financing to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and European authorities. With lower borrowing costs, Italy and Spain would not be facing a “debt crisis.”
In fact, this whole crisis and recession could have been prevented very easily if the European authorities had simply intervened to maintain low interest rates on the Greek debt a year and a half ago. It is possible that some restructuring might still have been necessary, but the cost would still have been very small relative to the available resources of the European authorities. Because they refused to do this, and instead shrank the Greek economy, increased its debt burden, and allowed its borrowing costs to skyrocket – the crisis spread to the weaker countries of the eurozone, including Italy.
And now capital – including American money market funds – is fleeing Europe’s banking system, threatening a systemic financial crisis of unknowable proportions.
This failure to act – then and now – shows clearly that this is not a “debt crisis” at all but rather a crisis of failed policies. Eurozone finance ministers met Tuesday but failed again to come up with any credible solution that would stabilize the situation.
ECB intervention to stabilize eurozone bond markets is the most obvious, and possibly the only practical solution for several reasons. First, it is the only institution that can move quickly to bring the situation under control at a moment in which we really don’t know how far we are from a meltdown. Nobody anticipated that Germany, for example, would have trouble selling its bonds last week – there will be other unanticipated events that could possibly set off a panic at any time. Second, the ECB can buy the sovereign bonds of Italy or Spain at no cost to the European taxpayer. This is a serious issue, since the amounts of money involved could be large enough to present a political problem in Germany and other better-off eurozone countries. Just as the U.S. Federal Reserve has created $2.3 trillion since 2008 and used it to buy securities in the United States, the ECB could do the same in Europe where such buying is much more desperately needed. And just as there was no measurable effect on inflation in the United States, we would not expect any problem with inflation in Europe. Inflation in the eurozone is currently projected to fall to just 1.6 percent for next year.
The problem is that the ECB, and other European authorities led by the German government, are still playing the same game of brinkmanship that they have been playing for the past two years. They are more worried about forcing austerity policies on the weaker eurozone countries than they are about tanking the European and global economy. They continue to see the crisis as an opportunity to force through unpopular “reforms” – such as cutting jobs and pensions, raising the retirement age, privatizations, and reducing the size and scope of the welfare state. They have already caused a recession in the eurozone and seem more than willing to let it deepen in order to get what they want. The big question now is whether their recklessness will bring on a financial crisis that triggers a world recession.
Some of us have called for the Federal Reserve to intervene before this happens and do the ECB’s job for them. It has the capacity to do so, and like its prior quantitative easing in the U.S., would be costless to the taxpayers. It might cause a bit of a political storm, but that would be a small price to pay to avoid a recession that would throw millions more people out of work – in the United States, Europe, and much of the world.
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Show All"In fact, this whole crisis and recession could have been prevented very easily if the European authorities had simply intervened to maintain low interest rates on the Greek debt a year and a half ago." (article)
That's a load of BS if ever I heard it.
You think this about tinkering with interest rates?
Never heard of seven billion going to nine or ten, AGW, rising seas and the newly minted sixth mass extinction event underway. Forgotten the empire and depleted uranium have we, and the meltdowns in Japan, one billion hungry, and world food one disaster away from starvation for millions.
Interest rates my a...
Let's all find somebody with a brain or two still functioning before we allow them to contaminate this space.
Manysummits
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I used to think economics was boring. It's kinda important though. You should consider at least slight study. Ignorance is not always bliss.
I ran my own federally incorporated company, took economics at University along with science, and was for a time a stockbroker.
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You're just the person to explain it to us. Is it the case that too many ficticious paper assets have been created, and the financiers are trying to "cash in" and get real wealth assets for their paper, like what a counterfeiter does; taking without returning anything of real use? Doesn't this produce the danger of hyperinflation?
Focus - what you have described is a criminal activity - injustice painted large on a spectacular canvas.
There is no economy save for the natural world.
A civilized man has been domesticated, and delusion seems to be part of the domesticating process, or at least it magnifies it.
Now, we don't know who to believe. Is our handler bringing us to food, or to the slaughterhouse.
Manysummits
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inb, more danger of deflation than hyperinflation. Michael, mumbo jumbo does not make anything more clear.
Please expand on the answer. It seems to me that an increasing number of "bailout" $s circulating in the economy, chasing a given number "X" of goods, would make prices go up (I'm thinking financier cartels parking paper assets in real commodities, and inflating food prices, supposedly the REAL spark of arab spring revolt). I can see where stagnant wages don't allow laborers to buy/consume the products of their labor, so prices are marked down (deflation). Please expand on your answer.
Yes, those bailout dollars can easily drive up the price of commodities, but only just so far. At some point no one actually wants to pay ridiculously inflated prices for copper, for instance. So plumbers switch to plastic pipe. Farmers feeding cattle will not pay endlessly higher prices for corn. They'll find a substitute or sell all or more cattle. So, the inflation aspect is relatively short-lived. The main driver of the economy is in the hands of the consumer. They have to have enough money to create the demand to drive prices higher in order to have true inflation. It looks like a long time until enough people have the jobs and dollars to create the necessary demand to drive prices of most goods significantly higher.
"I ran my own federally incorporated company"
Isn't that past tense? Why is that?
I became human and climbed mountains for seven years full-time - day by day, season by season, at MY pace - and no other - 'for to see an' for to admire'.
A 'born again' experience I would guess - without the delusion.
Currently I am framing houses, roofing them, and boarding them - very satisfying, at a fraction of the pay. But then I have Julie and Cloudrunner (Michael, Miguelito - now seven), and at last I can see.
It seems a worthwhile tradeoff.
As James Lovelock has pointed out, 'we seem not to have the slightest idea of the peril we are in'. (The Vanishing Face of Gaia)
Manysummits
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I like the way you think and see the world. Weisbott is full of shit. He and Dean Baker came out today and thought is was just wonderful that Bernanke and all the other central banks got together, lowered interest rates, and are willing to create untold trillions out of thin air to "save" the banks and the existing financial system. All of these systems are insolvent. These financial engineers create no real wealth. Just digits on a screen. You can't solve a problem of too much debt with more debt. Stupid is as stupid does. The stock market went up into the bubblely clouds today and the bond markets yawned. Nothing is resolved. The only thing any of us can count on is family, good neighbors, and developing needed skills for a changed world. Appreciate the life we have, the love that we share, and the beauty that surrounds us. It is enough.
Rebel Farmer: Very well said. I'm amazed at the cavalier wey Weisbrot applauds the printing of paper money.
And thank you, Michael D for reminding the forum that the true estate is what belongs to the Great Mother. With so many of her species crashed and burned, and vast raw materials stolen, the balance has been upset; and so crises will begin to tap into the economies of nations, the vast majority of which took far too much for granted. But none is more guilty of this ecological hazard and equivalent Hubris, than the U.S. A. Ground Zero for Mammon & Mars rule.
"I used to think economics was boring."
When was that, last week? You'll need to study much harder.
You know the article is about the debt and the economies of Europe. Your issues are real, but they don't really fit in with the topic. Also if the sixth mass extinction event is underway, why do you expect the population to grow to 10 billion. Surely if there is an extinction event it would make that number significantly smaller.
Going to nine or ten - United Nations -
I doubt we'll make it there - maybe I'll adopt a phrase or two from Shadow Dancer - go back to shopping - there are only so many days left to Christmas.
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"Some of us have called for the Federal Reserve to intervene..." And the good news is that it looks like they are doing exactly that along with the ECB and other nation's reserve banks. So it looks like some of the big boys got together and said something like, "Why should we shoot ourselves in the foot if we don't have to?" I applaud their hard work and deep thinking.
It is in the interest of the US to not have the Euro dissolve. Also many American banks are creditors of Greece and Italy. If they default and repudiate their debt, they are going to want another bail out sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
You're fifteen trillion in debt, you are a military empire in the classic mold, and you in the process of disemboweling your Constitution, long ago having made Spooner's "Trial by Jury" a comic routine.
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The fifteen trillion is not unmanageable and was quite a bit worse as a % of GDP in our past. Our Constitution has been routinely 'disemboweled' all through our history. It's a long sad story that we manage to overcome time and again. If Congress does NOTHING, we are now set to stabilize our debt. Again, sadly, Congress will do the wrong thing more often than not (putting a group of stupid humans together rarely improves them to any degree).
Agreed. I got off topic - and started thinking numbers again.
The problem is the destruction of the Holocene Ecosphere, which will destroy the human race - or at least its civilizations. Whether some of us survive is moot - it will be the greatest failure of vision and will in mankind's history on Earth.
Manysummits
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Problems await us in spades. We will solve some of them, mitigate others, and...
You might be right that the Federal Reserve should intervene in the European crisis in order to avoid a banking collapse over there, but at the same time it seems like Europe should pay for its short-sighted policies. "Reaping one's just rewards" is the only way some people can learn. If we end up buying bad debt in Europe, aren't we just supporting the unsustainable austerity regimes being imposed on Greece, Spain, and Italy which are being imposed by the ECB?
The bond vigilantes have made the debts of many southern European nations impossible. They can either default and leave the Euro or get the help needed to keep their borrowing costs reasonable enough to have a chance. I believe that is the bottom line. Neither option is ideal. Defaulting and leaving the Euro is more potentially dangerous to the world economy. Best to play it safe.
Spanish ten year bonds closed today at 6.4%, down dramatically over a few days ago. Why is that? While Italy's debt is heading for the stratosphere. It may have something to do with the fact that Spain has a government, and Italy hasn't had one for a long time, and still doesn't.
Anyone alive and capable of thinking out there?
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Michael, I believe the answer is largely in the negative. Highly recommend reading "Why America Failed' by Morris Berman.
Just looked it up - I'm sure it's very interesting - thank you!
I have read Ronald Wright's "What is America", very much along the same theme.
These days I seem to spend ever more time looking in other directions - to psychology, for instance, and in science, to the deep past in relation to the last few million years.
And to astrobiology, where insights into life and its possible ubiquity form a sort of 'acceptance', should all else fail.
We are a young and vigorous species. It may be that we are mal-adapted, and will soon disappear, for all intents and purposes.
This would be a tragedy, given our promise, but then tragedy is in the eye of the beholder.
The first photo-synthesizing cyanobacteria produced free oxygen - lethal to most of the biological ecosphere at the time.
Now there is 21 percent Oxygen in our skies, declining slowly as CO2 and Methane rise, and the long ago methanogens, and the purple and green bacteria, are confined to a nether-world existence - but they are still there - awaiting another chance.
In fact, as the late Harvard paleontologist Stephen Gould pointed out, the bacterial mode has done nothing but consolidate its grip on the planet since day one.
Manysummits
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Michael, look up feral scholar dot org. I think his name is Stan. His latest article is truly amazing. Was some of the most enlightening and thought provoking stuff I have read in a very long time. This article is also cross posted over at cluborlov dot blogspot dot com (Dimitry Orlov - wrote Reinventing Collapse). Enjoy.
writing to you from France, I'm with ya 100%, Michael. The attack on euro and current melt-down in Europe was created and orchestrated by USA investment banksters who extended massive credit (debts) to our euro banks based on sub-prime scamming "instruments," lol. All this so as to torpedo the euro's displacement of USA dollar as the preferred international currency.
All this with the blessing of US regimes under bushthugs and now Obama (the spineless wonder).
You mean European banks did not offer risky loans to Greece, Spain, and the like? There is plenty of blame to go around for this debacle. Yeah, Goldman was a player but so were the German banks.
Do you suppose the German bankers knew the Greek were cooking the books when they applied for member ship in the EU? You bet they did. I am really sick of German moral 'superiority'. Spain was not cooking the books, nor amazingly was Italy.The Germans regarded both countries as good, solid investments.
Why is Weisbrot calling for more bank bailouts at the expense of the people? Why is Weisbrot not making his primary demand that financial criminals be prosecuted? Why does Weisbrot believe that pumping more liquidity into the hands of known criminals, instead of getting capital directly to the people is a viable solution?
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Real inflation, not the watered down government numbers, is over 11%. Every honest economist uses the accurate numbers available at Shadowstats.
http://tinyurl.com/ybfeljp
QE has not been costless to taxpayers. Propping up insolvent banks at the expense of the people has been CATASTROPHIC to the economy. The only solution is criminal charges against the bankers with their assets seized and returned to their victims. Additionally, debts based on fraud must be forgiven.
The US Dollar is down over 30% since 2001, Mr. Weisbrot. Monetizing the debt has been a DISASTER.
http://tinyurl.com/yfek2v5
Avoiding a truly catastrophic worldwide depression, possibly worse than anything imaginable, is a pretty good reason to keep liquidity in the hands of the "financial criminals". Your idea of "real inflation" is a number that will likely fall. A commodity bubble has increased many prices temporarily. Also the fact that more people can not and do not want to own houses has caused a temporary bump to rental housing. What you do not realize is that the US dollar needs to fall further to help our jobs and exports. This is unlikely, however.
Putting more liquidity in the hands of financial criminals (no quotes needed) will guarantee the depression inflicted on the people will continue to deepen and intensify, as the policies of the last three years have proved conclusively. This policy will only grow the chasm between the 1% and the rest of us.
The dollar is down 30% plus since 2000 yet trade deficits have only widened and U.S consumer purchasing power has degraded. Cheap dollar policy will guarantee Chinese level wages for Americans.
You idea of inflation is pure unadulterated government propaganda. You prefer manipulated numbers to reality.
What you do not realize is that free money for the elite and 25% money for the masses is a form of financial apartheid.
Is you presence on this website to try and subtly push the DNC line on everything from GM seeds to government bail outs while presenting a front otherwise?
"...as the policies of the last three years have proved conclusively." Sorry, but that is a really stupid statement. Do you realize what you said? Liquidity in the hands of the financiers is THE reason for the economic problems of the last 3 years? Get real. While China and America are the elephants in the room, there is still a heck of a lot of others in the world. It's truly sad that some people must pay 25% interest. They really have no hope. In 1982 the family business I was involved in paid $100,000 in interest. I vowed to change that. There was a time when I had to scrimp and save pretty hard, worry a hell of alot, now I pay NO interest. Debt sucks.
...as the policies of the last three years have proved conclusively." Sorry, but that is a really stupid statement. Do you realize what you said? Liquidity in the hands of the financiers is THE reason for the economic problems of the last 3 years? Get real.
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Throwing trillions of dollars at insolvent zombie banks who turn around and gamble that money on risky derivatives (soon to go bust yet again) while awarding their officers millions in bonuses are EXACTLY the activities that have compounded the DEPRESSION of the 99% for the last three years and is categorically and without question the driving force of the continued economic free fall. Had that money been given directly to the people, via an FDR-like assistance/work program, the suffering would be considerably less and an authentic "recovery" would be proceeding.
Of course, not throwing the criminal bankers in jail and returning their stolen wealth to their victims is the driver that set in motion the huge bailouts I describe above.
Please also note that offering a personal anecdote, assuming it is factual, does not entice anyone here to more readily accept your thinly veiled DNC rubbish.
I like it much better that you have switched to the word "compounded" rather than the simple declarative "the reason." Liquidity to the system was necessary as given. Some strings could certainly have been attached to give the taxpayer a better deal. You are absolutely correct that "assistance/work programs" would have been an excellent additional step. I added the personal note to explain how much I despise having personal debt. I would advise everyone to limit their debt to either nothing or to a level that seems manageable under a worst-case scenario. And don't take on debt unless there's a damn good reason to do so. Sometimes there is. Also, while I hate personal debt, I think it extremely important for the government to run a deficit when the private sector is unable to achieve relatively full employment.
Go Cygnus! Between you and Michael we might be able to break through the propaganda fog that we have all been force fed for so many years. I'll sit back with my popcorn, then go back to support my local occupy. Oh, and our local Move-to-Amend chapter. We really are going to get a Constitutional amendment that makes it clear that corporations are not persons, and that fiat money is not free speech. We may to late, but these idiot elites are going to trip themselves up on their own petards anyway. Maybe we can get to them first. Kaboom!!!!
CYGNUS, in reference to this quote directed at Greg R:
"You idea of inflation is pure unadulterated government propaganda..."
This is truer than you may realize. If anyone follows Greg R's "positions" in this forum, they can be counted on to downplay whatever offenses the government elites are projecting at citizens, repeat the fiction that Monsanto's products improve crop yields (and involve no damages to natural species), and reinforce that the Democrats are the better party and should be voted for.
His opinions appear to be paid endorsements. And considering he's stated that he's a farmer, check out the HOURS (time-wise) that he's hardly out farming, but instead sewing seeds of deception in this forum.
He wants to save capitalism which is impossible. It's an outdated system that is no longer capable of further progress. Its historical end has come. Although dumping it will be extremely difficult for many millions of working people, better to bite the bullet now and put it out of its misery so a new world can be built that does away with the 1%. Pulling it out of its current crisis will just lead to a deeper crisis down the road and we'll all be back into it again. Capitalism cannot overcome its cyclical crises as its a built in feature of this economic system. Every effort to overcome a capitalist economic crisis just leaves a deeper future crisis to deal with. On top of all this, the planet's environment isn't giving us the luxury of continually restoring capitalist capital.
The current political will to end capitalism is not there. Pipe dreams are interesting, but better management of capitalism is the only program on the horizon.
Ever try to manage cancer as it moves throughout an organism? Talk about pipe dreams! As long as people think that this rotten system can somehow be reformed we're all in for a long life of continual suffering. Those who understand this today are obligated to work to end it. No one can predict when the political will reaches a point that demands revolutionary change. We do know from past history that what seemed beyond reach one day, all of a sudden develops legs and a revolutionary transformation takes place. This never comes about due to the naysayers saying it is impossible, but rather the opposite. A small spark can ignite a firestorm. That's the dialectics of social evolution.
By gove, I think Struggle gets it!! In some circles this is known as the Fourth Turning (Strauss and Howe). Go get 'em tiger!
Jim Quinn writes:
"When you see such coordinated action by all the major Central Banks in the world, you know the situation is much worse than you are being told by the ruling oligarchy. The confidence and trust is gone. Every major bank in the world is insolvent, whether it be in the U.S., Europe or China. These Central Banks are owned and controlled by the very banks they are bailing out. They are telling you they have it under control. They do not. They have lost control. The debt is too great and will destroy the economic system of the world.
This is a last ditch effort by those in power to grab the last vestiges of middle class wealth. The stock market will soar today, benefitting bankers, politicians, and the 1%. They have solved nothing. The debt remains. The debt will not be paid.
Oil, food and commodity prices immediately soared on this announcement. Again, the wealthy will get richer and the average American will be destroyed by inflation on the things they need to live. The game goes on.
Indeed, just as with Hank Paulson’s little tip to the big boys – which is nothing new – some insiders probably made a killing by being tipped off about the swap lines."
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Post date: 12/01/2011 - 12:11
The whole thing smells fishy to me. Aside from the fact that the Fed clearly leaked its intentions as early as Monday night (hence the reason stocks rallied while credit markets weakened), there’s... And Tyler's article.....
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/did-fed-leak-european-bailout-decision-monday-morning-visual-exhibit
This isn’t a financial crisis … it’s a bank robbery.
I love Jim Quinn's take on the mess we are in. I would add that his analysis is always informed by the analysis of Strauss and Howe's research documented in "The Fourth Turning". Thanks for posting this.
Crossing the Global Rubicon:
It is being broadly reported, as we speak, that the Obama administration will NOT allow more US taxpayer money to be used to bail-out European banks, as reported in this very USA Today article:
"And despite Obama's promise to "do our part," Carney said no U.S. taxpayers' funds are needed, even if the International Monetary Fund is called on to help in any bailout."
And YET, this key NYT front-business-page article this morning, says that the US FED WILL contribute millions/billions in 'no interest' money from the US FED window to European Banks:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/01/business/central-banks-move-together-to-ease-debt-crisis.html?_r=1&hp
Soooooo, "what we have here is a failure to communicate" ... OBAMA's BIG LIE.
Here's my comment to the NYT and USA Today:
Obama promised just yesterday that U.S. citizens could be sure that he would not allow any American funds (that might further peonize them) to be diverted to Europe.
Oh well, another Obama promise made AND BROKEN, but this time in real-time --- so fast was the lie that it makes one's head spin.
Best luck and love to Occupy Empire.
Liberty, democracy, justice, and equality
over
violent/global/'Vichy'
empire,
Alan MacDonald
PS. Oh, I know what the confusion is in Obama's apparent bold-faced lie to American citizens. He's actually speaking honestly, but as the faux-Emperor of the world, rather than just the president of our former country ---- since what we still consider 'our' country is now the nominal HQ of the disguised corporate/financial/militarist Global EMPIRE, which hides behind the facade of its modernized TWO-Party 'Vichy' sham of faux-democratic and totally illegitimate government --- just as an earlier Nazi Empire tried to hide behind its crude and single-party 'Vichy' regime in France c. 1940.
It is now necessary for the global corporatist media to clearly articulate anything Obama says as either coming from the nominal president of the country previously called America, or from the mouth of the First faux-Emperor of the 21st century Global Empire --- the real and accomplished Fourth Reich.
The reason for today's stock run-up was that a number of national banks--including the Fed--agreed to support banks that finance national debt in afflicted European countries--essentially lowering interest for them. However, public banks do not qualify for this largess which is being handed out to private banks. That means that, while borrowing might get somewhat less costly for governments, the effect is quite muted. The big gainers in the deal are the banks that finance debt over there, not the public banks. Of course, the purpose is clear: to shred social safety nets, privatize, and leave governments as smoking, empty hulks. These bastards are smart, no doubt about it.
This, by the way, comes from Ellen Brown on today's truthout.
Basically I think this analysis is simply wrong. Yes, the Fed, etc. help the "afflicted European" governments. Yes, this will help the private banks, but it will also lower interest costs to public banks and smaller private banks. I don't know exactly how smart these bastards are, but it appears that the Germans have been playing chicken with the future of the Euro and the world economy. Perhaps they are the winners in this game with the Fed and other nation's banks kicking in cash? Ultimately though, I think we in the 99% in America are far better off with today's deal.
Greg, stop with the status quo propaganda. It is getting really tiresome.
With so many problems in the world trying to move slowly toward something better is indeed tiresome. But, in my view, it is the only way. Most Americans are moderates who merely want a fair deal with the rich subject to the same rules. Most know that radicalism can lead to unintended consequences such as authoritarianism.