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Throwing Out the Master’s Tools and Building a Better House: Thoughts on the Importance of Nonviolence in the Occupy Revolution
Violence Is Conventional
Violence is what the police use. It’s what the state uses. If we want a revolution, it’s because we want a better world, because we think we have a bigger imagination, a more beautiful vision. So we’re not violent; we’re not like them in crucial ways. When I see a New York City policeman pepper-spray already captive young women in the face, I am disgusted; I want things to be different. And that pepperspraying incident, terrible though it was for the individuals, did not succeed in any larger way.
Police violence at Occupy Wall StreetIn fact, seen on Youtube (704,737 times for one posted version) and widely spread, it helped make Occupy Wall Street visible and sympathetic to mainstream viewers. The movement grew tremendously after that. The incident demonstrated the moral failure of the police and demonstrated that violence is also weak. It can injure, damage, destroy, kill, but it can’t coerce the will of the people, whether it’s a policeman assaulting unarmed young women or the US Army in Vietnam or Iraq.
Imagine that some Occupy activists had then beaten up the cop. That would have seemed to justify him in the eyes of many; it would’ve undermined the moral standing of our side. And then what? Moral authority was also that young Marine veteran, Shamar Thomas, chewing out thirty or so New York cops in what became a Youtube clip viewed 2,652,037 times so far. He didn’t fight them; he told them that what they were doing is wrong and dishonorable. And brought the nation along with him. Which violence wouldn’t do.
Violence Is Weak
As Jonathan Schell points out in his magnificent book The Unconquerable World: Power, Nonviolence, and the Will of the People, violence is what the state uses when its other powers have failed, when it is already losing. In using violence the state often loses its moral authority and its popular support. That’s why sometimes their visible violence feeds our victory, tragic though the impact may be. It’s also telling that when the FBI or other government agencies infiltrate a movement or an activist group, they seek to undermine it by egging it on to more violence.
The state would like us to be violent. Violence as cooptation tries to make us more like them, and if we’re like them they win twice—once because being unlike them is our goal and again because then we’re then easier to imprison, brutalize, marginalize, etc. We have another kind of power, though the term nonviolence only defines what it is not; some call our power people power. It works. It’s powerful. It’s changed and it’s changing the world.
The government and mainstream-to-right media often create fictions of our violence, from the myth that protesters were violent (beyond property damage) in Seattle in 1999 to the myth of spitting in returning soldiers’ faces in the Vietnam era to generally smearing us as terrorists. If we were violent, we’d be conventionally dangerous and the authorities could justify repressing us. In fact, we’re unconventionally dangerous, because we’re not threatening physical violence but the transformation of the system (and its violence). That is so much more dangerous to them, which is why they have to lie about (or just cannot comprehend) the nature of our danger.
So when episodes of violence break out as part of our side in a demonstration, an uprising, a movement, I think of it as a sabotage, a corruption, a coercion, a misunderstanding, or a mistake, whether it’s a paid infiltrator or a clueless dude. Here I want to be clear that property damage is not necessarily violence. The firefighter breaks the door to get the people out of the building. But the husband breaks the dishes to demonstrate to his wife that he can and may also break her. It’s violence displaced onto the inanimate as a threat to the animate.
Quietly eradicating experimental GMO crops or pulling up mining claim stakes is generally like the firefighter. Breaking windows during a big demonstration is more like the husband. I saw the windows of a Starbucks and a Niketown broken in downtown Seattle after nonviolent direct action had shut the central city and the World Trade Organization ministerial down. I saw scared-looking workers and knew that the CEOs and shareholders were not going to face that turbulence and they sure were not going to be the ones to clean it up. Economically it meant nothing to them.
We Are Already Winning
The powers that be are already scared of the Occupy movement and not because of tiny acts of violence. They are scared because right now we speak pretty well for the 99%. And because we set out to change the world and it’s working. The president of Russia warmed at the G20 Summit a week or so ago, "The reward system of shareholders and managers of financial institution should be changed step by step. Otherwise the 'Occupy Wall street' slogan will become fashionable in all developed countries." That’s fear. And capitulation. And New York Times columnist Paul Krugman opened a recent column thus: “Inequality is back in the news, largely thanks to Occupy Wall Street….” We have set the agenda and framed the terms, and that’s already a huge victory.
This movement is winning. It’s winning by being broad and inclusive, by emphasizing what we have in common and bridging differences between the homeless, the poor, those in freefall, the fiscally thriving but outraged, between generations, races and nationalities and between longtime activists and never-demonstrated-before newcomers. It’s winning by keeping its eyes on the prize, which is economic justice and direct democracy, and by living out that direct democracy through assemblies and other means right now.
It’s winning through people power direct-action tactics, from global marches to blockades to many hundreds of Occupations. It’s winning through the creativity of the young, from the 22-year-old who launched Move Your Money Day to the 26-year-old who started the We Are the 99% website. And by tactics learned from Argentina’s 2001 revolution of general assemblies and politica afectiva, the politics of affection. It’s winning by becoming the space in which we are civil society: of human beings in the aggegate, living in public and with trust and love for one another. Violence is not going to be one of the tools that works in this movement.
Violence Is Authoritarian
Bodily violence is a means of coercing others against their will by causing pain, injury, or death. It steals another’s bodily integrity or very life as property to dispose of as the violator wishes. Since the majority in our movement would never consent to violent actions, such actions are also imposed on our body politic against our will. This is the very antithesis of anarchy as an ideal in which no one is coerced. If you wish to do something the great majority of us oppose, do it on your own. But these small violent bands attach themselves to large nonviolent movements, perhaps because there aren’t any large violent movements around.
As Peter Marshall writes in his history of anarchism, Demanding the Impossible, “Indeed the word violence comes from the Latin violare and etymologically means violation. Strictly speaking, to act violently means to treat others without respect…. A violent revolution is therefore unlikely to bring about any fundamental change in human relations. Given the anarchists’ respect for the sovereignty of the individual, in the long run it is non-violence and not violence which is implied by anarchist values.” Many of us anarchists are not ideological pacifists; I’m more than fine with the ways the Zapatistas rebels in southern Mexico have defended themselves and notice how sadly necessary it sometimes is, and I sure wouldn’t dictate what Syrians or Tibetans may or may not do. But petty violence in public in this country doesn’t achieve anything useful.
Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory
In downtown Oakland, late on the evening of November 2 after a triumphant and mostly nonviolent day of mass actions, a building near Occupy Oakland’s encampment was seized, debris was piled up as if to make barricades that were only show barricades to set afire, not defend, trash cans were set on fire, windows broken, rocks thrown, and then there were altercations with the police. If the goal was to seize a building, one witness pointed out, then seize it secretly, not flamboyantly. The activity around the seizure seemed intended to bait the police into action. Which worked; police are not hard to bait. Activists and police were injured. What was achieved?
Many other activists yelled at the brawlers because they felt that the violence-tinged actions did not represent them or the Occupy movement and put them in danger. It was appalling that the city of Oakland began, a week earlier, by sending in stormtrooper police before dawn rather than negotiating about the fate of the Occupy Oakland encampment. But it was ridiculous that some people tried to get the police to be violent all over again. And it was tragic that others bore the brunt of that foray, including the grievously injured veteran Kayvan Sabeghi—another veteran, a week after Scott Olson.
Earlier this fall, the publishing group Crimethinc issued a screed in justification of violence that’s circulated widely in the Occupy movement. It’s titled “Dear Occupiers: A Letter from Anarchists,” though most anarchists I know would disagree with almost everything that follows. Midway through it declares, “Not everyone is resigned to legalistic pacifism; some people still remember how to stand up for themselves. Assuming that those at the front of clashes with the authorities are somehow in league with the authorities is not only illogical…. It is typical of privileged people who have been taught to trust the authorities and fear everyone who disobeys them.”
If nonviolence/people power is privilege, explain this eyewitness account from Oakland last Wednesday, posted on the Occupy Oakland site by Kallista Patridge: “By the time we got to the University building, a brave man was blocking the door screaming "Peaceful Protest! This is my city, and I don't want to destroy it!" He cracked his knuckles, ready to take on an attack, his face splattered in paint from the Whole Foods fiasco [in which downtown Oakland’s branch of the chain store was spraypainted and smashed up based on a rumor that workers were told they’d be fired if they took the day off for the General Strike]. Behind the doors were men in badges. I was now watching a black man shield cops from a protest. The black flag group began pointing out those attempting to stop them, chanting ‘The peace police must be stopped,’ and I was, personally, rather disgusted by the strategy of comparing peacefully pissed people to police….”
This account is by a protestor who also noted in downtown Oakland that day a couple of men with military-style haircuts and brand new clothes put bandannas over their faces and began to smash stuff. She thinks that infiltrators were part of the property destruction and maybe instigated it, and Copwatch’s posted video seems to document police infiltrators at Occupy Oakland. One way to be impossible to sabotage is to be clearly committed to tactics that the state can’t coopt. If an infiltrator wants to nonviolently blockade or march or take out the garbage, well, that’s one more of us. If an infiltrator sabotages us by recruiting for mayhem, that’s a comment on what those tactics are good for.
What Actually Works
The language of Crimethinc is empty machismo peppered with insults. And just in this tiny snippet, incoherent. People who don’t like violence are not necessarily fearful or obedient; people power and nonviolence are strategies that are not the same as the ideology pacifism. To shut down the whole central city of Seattle and the World Trade Organization ministerial meeting on November 30, 1999, or the business district of San Francisco for three days in March of 2003, or the Port of Oakland on November 2, 2011—through people power—is one hell of a great way to stand up. It works. And it brings great joy and sense of power to those who do it. It’s how the world gets changed these days.
Crimethinc, whose logo is its name inside a bullet, doesn’t actually cite examples of violence achieving anything in our recent history. Can you name any? The anonymous writers don’t seem prepared to act, just tell others to (as do the two most high-profile advocates of violence on the left). And despite the smear quoted above that privileged people oppose them, theirs is the language of privilege. White kids can do crazy shit and get slapped on the wrist or maybe slapped around for it; I have for a quarter century walked through police lines like they were tall grass; people of color face far more dire consequences. When white youth try to bring the police down on a racially diverse movement—well, it’s not exactly what the word solidarity means to most of us.
Another Occupy Oakland witness, a female street medic, wrote of the ill-conceived November 2 late-night antics, “watching black bloc-ers run from the cops and not protect the camp their actions had endangered, an action which ultimately left behind many mentally ill people, sick people, street kids, and homeless folks to defend themselves against the police onslaught was disturbing and disgusting in ways I can't even articulate because I am still so angry at the empty bravado and cowardice that I saw.” She adds, “I want those kids to be held accountable to the damage that they did, damage made possible by their class and race privilege.” And physical fitness; Occupy Oakland’s camp includes children, older people, wheelchair users and a lot of other people less ready to run.
As Oakland Occupier Sunaura Taylor put it, “A few people making decisions that affect everyone else is not what revolution looks like; it's what capitalism looks like.”
How We Defeated the Police
The euphemism for violence is “diversity of tactics,” perhaps because diversity has been a liberal-progressive buzzword these past decades. But diversity does not mean that anything goes and that democratic decisionmaking doesn’t apply. If you want to be part of a movement, treat the others with respect; don’t spring unwanted surprises on them, particularly surprises that sabotage their own tactics—and chase away the real diversity of the movement. Most of us don’t want to be part of an action that includes those tactics. If you want to fight the police, look at who’s succeeded in changing their behavior: lawyers, lawmakers, police watchdog groups like Copwatch, investigative journalists (including a friend of mine whose work just put several New Orleans policemen in prison for decades), neighborhood patrols, community organizers, grassroots movements, often two or more players working together. You have to build.
The night after the raid on Oakland, the police were massed to raid Occupy San Francisco. About two thousand of us stood in and around the Occupy encampment as helicoptors hovered. Nonviolence trainers helped people prepare to blockade. Because we had a little political revolt against the Democratic money machine ten years ago and began to elect progressives who actually represent us pretty well, five of our city supervisors, the public defender, and a state senator—all people of color, incidentally-- stood with us all night, vowing they would not let this happen.
We stood up. We fought a nonviolent battle against four hundred riot police that was so effective the police didn’t even dare show up. That’s people power. The same day Occupy Oakland took its campsite back, with people power, and the black bloc kids were reportedly part of the whole: they dismantled the cyclone fencing panels and stacked them up neatly. That’s how Occupy San Francisco won. And that’s how Occupy Oakland won.
State troopers and city police police refused to break up the Occupy Albany (New York) encampment, despite the governor’s and mayor’s orders. Sometimes the police can be swayed. Not by violence, though. The master’s tools won’t dismantle the master’s house. And they sure won’t build a better house.
People Power Shapes the World
Left violence failed miserably in the 1970s: the squalid and futile violence in Germany and Italy, the delusional Symbionese Liberation Army murdering Marcus Foster, Oakland’s first black school superintendent, and later gunning down a bystander mother of four in a bank, the bumbling Weather Underground accidentally blowing three of its members up and turning the rest into fugitives for a decade; all of them giving us a bad name we’ve worked hard to escape.
Think of that excruciating footage in Sam Green’s Weather Underground documentary of the “days of rage,” when a handful of delusions-of-grandeur young white radicals thought they’d do literal battle with the Chicago police and thus inspire the working class to rise up. The police clobbered them; the working class was so not impressed. If you want to address a larger issue, getting overly entangled with local police is a great way to lose focus and support.
In fact, the powerful and effective movements of the past sixty years have been almost entirely nonviolent. The Civil Rights Movement included the Deacons for Defense, but the focus of that smaller group was actually defense—the prevention of violence against nonviolent activists and the movement, not offensive forays. Schell points out that even the French and Russian Revolutions were largely nonviolent when it came to overthrowing the old regime; seizing a monopoly of power to form a new regime is when the blood really began to flow.
I think of the Sandinista Revolution of 1979 as the last great armed revolution, and it succeeded because the guerrillas with guns who came down from the mountains had wide popular support. People power. People power overthrew the Shah of Iran that year, in a revolution that was hijacked by authoritarians fond of violence. In 1986 the Marcos regime of the Philippines was overthrown by nonviolent means, means so compelling the army switched sides and refused to support the Marcos regime.
Armies don’t do that if you shoot at them, generally (and if you really defeated the police in battle—all the police, nationwide?--you’d face the army). Since then dozens of regimes, from South Africa to Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Poland to Nepal to Bolivia, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil and Tunisia have been profoundly changed through largely nonviolent means. There was self-defense in the Deacons for Defense mode in the Egyptian uprising this year, but people power was the grand strategy that brought out the millions and changed the country. Armed struggle was part of the ongoing resistance in South Africa, but in the end people power and international solidarity were the fulcrom of change. The Zapatistas used violence sparingly as a last resort, but “our word is our weapon,” they say, and they used other tools in preference, often and exquisitely.
The powerful and effective movements of the past sixty years have used the strategy of people power. It works. It changes the world. It’s changing the world now. Join us. Or don’t join us. But please don’t try to have it both ways.
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Show AllWhat has happened to our friendly local cop on the beat? Has Homeland
Security turned all of them into heavily armed corporate assault troops?
non-violence...
a very popular position...
non-electric...
not so popular...
violent, electric drones are coming...
Nonviolent protest is a tactic, but with Occupy, it became a distorted philosophy. Nonviolence doesn't mean sitting on your butt in a park for three months listening to speeches. The protestors love to quote Gandhi, but they know nothing about Gandhi's methods. Gandhi didn't just sit around and preach--he led marches that hit the British economically--like the salt march. He went on hunger strikes. Other nonviolent means include general strikes and occupying buildings that have political or economic import. If you don't disrupt, you don't affect, and hence, you don't change anything.
Gandhi prepared for decades in South Africa and India before he led those actions.
The Occupy movement is deciding how to decide, agreeing on how to agree, learning, practicing, rehearsing, forming, organizing, discussing, refining, coordinating, becoming disciplined, selecting for those who can become disciplined, recruiting, bringing together theory, practice, support, logistics and direct action, guaging support and opposition, making statements, reconsidering, planting, (literally and figuratively; I've helped plant vegetables in Oscar Grant plaza and there is much planning going on about providing food, water, first aid and other necessities as well as tactics of resistance, recruitment and action).
Marching does not hit anyone economically, here or in India. Gandhi used marches to recruit, educate, communicate, and explain, in preparation for actions that DID hit the British ecomically and politically. The Occupy groups are doing what the Indian swaraj or home rule movement did; only when it was ready did the swaraj movement move beyond protests, setting up structures of governance, service and production parallel to those no longer serving the people. The Indian salt campaign (a march of many days which finally culminated in the illegal act of making salt (breaking the British monopoly)... the making of homespun cloth for the same reason--were only started after immense preparation. The "occupation" of the Dharasana Salt Works was not an occupation but a slow, deliberate, peaceful, incredibly disciplined action, not designed to take over the works but to incite police violence despite the clear lack of any credible threat to the police. The discipline it took was learned over decades of practice and experimentation and failure, first in South Africa and then in India through 2 world wars and many years before and between. Gandhi himself called off several massive actions that had turned violent because people were not ready--selected, trained, patient and restrained. Then he, and they, went back to work doing pretty much what the Occupy movement is doing now... what you seem to think of as doing nothing.
The Occupy movement is not doing everything perfectly; but it is doing everything it needs to right now.
Great post, J4zonian. Very well said! I would just add that Gandhi had also realized early on that he would have to fight on multiple fronts, if he were to truly listen to his conscience.
Fighting against the British was the easy part, in one sense. Because they were foreigners, trying to rule over a vast land with a huge population, and they had colonized in a creeping manner, often by stealth, and by playing off one Indian ruler against another, BEFORE the population realized what was happening. I very much doubt that the Indians could have known about the imperial conquests of the Europeans elsewhere in any detail, before it was too late. But once the people had realized what had happened, and were starting to stir, it was going to be difficult for the British to hold on to their rule indefinitely. Violent resistance might have worked too, for this same reason, especially if the Indian policemen and military personnel had defected.
But Gandhi's real battle, IMO, was regarding what an independent India would look like. He clearly feared that violence would continue and become entrenched if it was used as a means towards one end, namely independence. He was extremely uncomfortable with mindless industrialization, which he thought should be totally need-based. He was also against using force to implement an ideology that was sweeping across some parts of the world at that time. He saw the extreme inequality within India. And the bigotry and exploitation within India. And he instinctively recognized the ecological limits imposed by nature. I suspect that simply achieving independence from foreign rule was not enough for him, if it meant that what followed would be continued misery for a large number of people. So his choice of methods can be said to be based on trying to achieve certain goals with certain constraints.
And it was never going to be easy, and it wasn't going to be easy to communicate to others. But he tried. He wrote and spoke practically non-stop in the middle of everything else he was trying to do. I agree with you that the Occupy movement is still feeling its way forward, but the people have been doing a magnificent job so far.
P.S.: I expect some to counter to your post. I see this all over the internet. It's not so difficult to argue that Gandhi's tactics worked only under such and such conditions or that he failed on this and that, etc. Not difficult at all! I used to be drawn into lengthy back-and-forth exchanges in the past. But I now realize that the differences come from different assumptions as starting points and different "constraints" considered as acceptable, and so arguing may be pointless unless there is a desire to explore and learn.
Absolutely, Al,
Gandhi was explicit and talked many times at great length about his desires for change beyond just independence; his tactics, he said many many times, were for the uplift of all including the British, and independence was as much a side effect as the main idea.
Unfortunately, though he was effective when huge numbers of people saw it to be in their economic interest (independence) he failed miserably when it came to stopping prejudice and violence among Indians (the Partition). Of course there are other factors, maybe even other necessities, that may make peaceful resistance successful. (the existence of a more violent and radical group which makes the peaceful demands seem reasonable, for example.)
But let's not allow that to distract us from the enduring fact that peaceful resistance has been and can be successful.
And yes, no doubt some will react violently.
lay low and strike at the heart of the beast when the time is right
For ten years we were programmed with the fear of terrorism; programmed to be suspicious of anyone not believing as we believed; to be suspicious of our friends and neighbors. And Homeland Security ballooned into a nationwide police state. Major city police were trained to be the robots that would deal unthinking against any threat. Smaller towns were given the opportunity to have their local police trained under Blackwater (now Xe). Now we're seeing those robots in force, in action - doing as they were trained to do once a terrorist label is attached. And we're learning how something can be given the label "terrorist" when it suits certain peoples' purposes.
Solnit: "We stood up. We fought a nonviolent battle against four hundred riot police that was so effective the police didn’t even dare show up. That’s people power. The same day Occupy Oakland took its campsite back, with people power, and the black bloc kids were reportedly part of the whole: they dismantled the cyclone fencing panels and stacked them up neatly. That’s how Occupy San Francisco won. And that’s how Occupy Oakland won."
None of this worked in Portland, OR, this weekend. I got batons jabbed in my chest and ribs to prove it. The chain link fence with barbed wire pretty-please on top, around the occupier's former squares, went up and is still up, while hundreds of stromtroopers gradually isolated the protesters into smaller and smaller groups and forced us back into a side street while city-hired bulldozers tore down the main occupiers' building.
Yep, the police were forced to delay action until 6 or 8 hours after their deadline because of the large supportive crowds that showed up overnight - for a few hours. Then the lookyloos went home and the remaining dispirited and exhausted occupiers were rolled over when the police simply moved in later. On Sunday afternoon, the ratio of lookyloos on the sidelines to people with their bodies in the street facing the stormtroopers was very high.
Justification for the city's destruction of Occupy Portland had been building for weeks, largely thanks to compliant-as-ever local media spreading the "DANGER!" message and a local population with a weak ideological grasp of current events - Portland, despite having a famously "liberal" bent, is NOT a stronghold for political thought or action. Trust that, from an 8-year resident.
Violence on the part of occupiers may well have turned public opinion more against them. But Solnit's sunny view of the consistent effectiveness of non-violence is just bullshit. Making change happen requires a motivated populace in a particular kind of supportive environment, violence or not, and after experiencing what I did this weekend, I'm more than ever inclined to believe that whoever controls the messaging and framing, whoever motivates and truly educates the people, wins the battle. There's also sheer luck involved in the particular corruptness and inclinations of the local power elite.
Thus, in many situations throughout history, violence CAN BE the best or only way to effect change. We've seen that throughout US history in previous centuries' labor battles, and we can see how ineffective Occupy movements are in various places around the country now, as the local authorities are destroying them.
Even if you had nuclear weapons, tanks and MOAB's, you'd just start an arms race.
However, the police are fewer in number, which is why they, like America in global politics, needs the "use of force". There is strength in numbers. It's the only true strength. Concentrate of building numbers, not weapons, and the people will win.
In that number-building effort, keep in mind that people don't want to go to war. What they want is to stand shoulder to shoulder with people of honor and integrity. In fact they might even be willing to be killed standing with them, if necessary. Remember, each time the police engage in unprovoked violence, the movement grows. In this way, when the cops "win", they actually lose.
Hello Wary,
I am so sorry that you had such a discouraging showdown the with police in Portland. But perhaps your message really was heard and influenced many. (I have a very ill sister in Portland who could not take part in the occupation, but had been taking food to the occupiers and reporting about the movement there to me.) I think there may have been a kind of "protest judo" going on. The police resorting to violence exposed them and the system they defend for the disgusting thing that it is. I think that display was not lost on many of the lookyloos, such as my sister, her family and friends. By not reacting with violence, you and the occupiers used the strength of the cops against them, and the mask of legitimacy and civility was torn from their faces. Thank you for your courage.
In the history of labor strife in America, the violence was overwhelming done by the owners, the police and the Pinkertons and other hired guns. Where labor did bring arms, Harlan Co, etc, the results were not conclusive victories and people always died. In more recent times, the Black Panthers made a point of publicly exercising their 2nd amendment rights with the fairly predictable result of bloodshed and mayhem, from George Jackson, to Jonathan Jackson, to Fred Hamptom and not a few Panthers who later fell to other Panthers, the result was not victory. Where the Panthers did help, education, breakfast for poor kids, community organizing, what they accomplished, they accomplished in spite of the guns, not because of them.
An armed Left movement in this country would be disarmed, rounded up, put down and extinguished within weeks. The security apparatus is more than capable of doing this.
Occupy Portland may have lost it's camp and you may have bruised ribs because some short-tempered asshole with a badge and a stick wanted to "teach them a lesson", but the Occupy movement has not been and cannot be "destroyed" as easily as that. I don't blame you for being pissed, but the ugly fact is that Occupy Portland was overwhelmed by problems it could not manage. The homeless and all their pathologies and bottomless needs cannot be turned into an organized force for change. I have been involved in more than one occupation type action: wherever people occupy, the homeless, the sectarians, the cults, the lost and the marginal all come, hang around and eventually take over or split the group with a lot of hare-brained "with us or against us" talk. Heroin addicts, acid casualties, alcoholics, and the mentally ill would probably all benefit by a more just, more democratic, more benevolent society. The beginnings of such a society may be seen in the Occupy camps now, but they are only a tiny first step. Most of the homeless are incapable of making that long march. Frankly, neither are the sectarians, black bloccers, ideologues and egotists, who come out of the woodwork whenever somebody else has the courage and vision to start something. That march has got to be made by everyday working people who can think beyond the pressure of day to day living and think outside of rote, ideologocial constraints.
Author Solnit does not suffer under any sunny delusions as far as I can tell. She's been around this stuff for years. Violence is their game, their rules and they hold vast superiority in personnel and weapons. It's their moral system too. If you had fought back violently in Portland you probably would have gotten a lot worse than bruised ribs; you and a lot of other people, many of whom were not armed or even resisting, but who just happened to be in the target zone. Islamic terrorists justify harm to the innocent by saying "God knows when it is your time to die". How would you justify it?
"Violence is their game, their rules and they hold vast superiority in personnel and weapons. It's their moral system too"--jareilly
yes! your entire comment, very well written! perhaps, though, we might say it's their "morale" system as in "the jerks get a charge out of it"?
Great article - and pointing to the absolute necessity of convincement by persuasion by aligning with the simple health of everyday life. Yes, popular presence on a large scale is not the norm of everyday life but it is on the path of the same.
I had not seen the video of Shamar Thomas and am deeply grateful for the powerful gentle passion of his call for human justice on the street. I believe that the misbegotten notion of 'Homeland Security' as guise for mercenary coercion can be dismantled only by the 99% being ready to engage in popular presence calling all of those resources back to life giving policies.
We might very well be faced with 'false flag' actions in the future and conversations about how we respond rather than react to hold ground on preventing militarized backlash would seem to be something worthwhile. Each day that Occupy engages, the experience of process contributes to aggregate wisdom that will slowly inform a broad range of concerns.
We gain respect by taking punches. With movement activists, as well with countries. If America's reaction to 9/11 was to suck it up and take the high road, we would have won the battle. Instead, we lost. The Occupy movement must not make the same mistake with police-terrorists.
"We gain respect by taking punches."
Spoken like a true victim.
I'm only a victim in the eyes of the abuser. And there are fewer abusers than there are the rest of us. Your words don't diminish me.
Amen!
Violently purging evil and corruption will only replace evil and corruption with a newer form of evil and corruption.
If Jesus kicked ass, he would have been only the latest gossip at the waterhole. Instead he started a religion.
America won the war for independence not with violence, but with numbers.
No, they left because there were too many of us and so few of them. There's only about 800,000 police in all of America. We could easily get 1,000,000 people in a single city if we tried. Violence isn't necessary by an order of magnitude. The police want us to think it's necessary, so they can use their only strength, violence.
Don't blame Jesus for what people did with his message. People who advocate for violence in the name of a non-violent Occupy movement are guilty of the same practice.
Protests are not same as movements. Protests don't deliver change because they're temporary. Movements bring about change because when it garners 1,000,000 people shutting down a city for a day, and the people come back again and again, politicians know that for every person there, there are 100 other people who feel the same way. Like FDR, the politicians will follow their leaders - the people. Dubya won't go to prison. But he'll not like it America anymore and will quietly leave the country and stay in Texas.
The conceivable change that could be effected by peaceful movements in the current situation, if nothing else, is re-establishing the concept of setting an example of how to live by living by example. In an age of deceit, lies, corruption, division and violence, working together in non-violent actions is the most radical thing we can possibly do.
Very well argued. Shame on the person(s) trying to silence this argument by flagging the post.
someone apparently felt your shaming needed flagging, too. as I mention below, like so many issues, this is a subject not open for rational discussion for entirely too many people.
terrific post and another flag by one more person devoted to democratic practices.
Eloquent, and agreeable, article, but left some wonder about the many instances in which 'people power' has just failed, and left in its wake thousands in prison, bruised, hungry, sick and poor. Indeed, if people power has been so effective, how has the world ended up in the condition that it's in now?
Solnit's article also speaks little to (erases?) the histories of armed anti-colonial movements for national liberation. True, in many cases these armed struggles entailed their own forms of oppression (gender, ethnicity, class, etc) during and after national political independence, but often non-violent protest against brutal imperial power just was not sufficient. And for decades now, existing forms of peaceful protest simply has not worked in, for example, Zimbabwe, or Myanmar.
Rather than yet another screed against 'bad violence', there needs to be more careful attention to the firefighter sort, to what exactly is acceptable and called for given the present conditions, which, yes, have changed dramatically over the past 60 years that Solnit describes - in fact, as a deliberate militarized redoubling against these very people power protests. The "master's tools" refrain is a bit simplisitic - it's about careful selection of tools, not all or nothing (weren't these very internets supported by the DoD?). And isn't it ironic indeed that the Oakland camp she mentions as a success has just been cleared again. How long shall they kill our prophets? Kettling, sound canons, pre-emptive seizures, etc - Solnit's sensitive pen could really usefully shed light on all that and more. That would be an urgent, positive contribution also.
"if people power has been so effective, how has the world ended up in the condition that it's in now?"
Because we HAVEN'T been engaging in non-violent people power over the last 50 years.
these Occupations are violent...
passively-aggressively so...
if you believe in your governmental structures, you have no need to Occupy...
if you don't, Occupation is not the answer...
this movement is intentionally vague, confrontational and critical, as is the continual framing of the practice...
it smells wrong...because it is...
the underlying purpose is to continue to separate the individual from authority...
to emanate helplessness...
hence the Gold Ring: handcuffs...
people power is changing the world right now?
huh, I would have said nuclear power...
as in triple fucking meltdown...
when I was 7 or so, I visited a friend on the outskirts of town...he says: let's visit the old man next door, he might let us ride his minibike...we go over there, and the old man is gone...my friend says: let's go around back, he has a big dog on a chain...
sure enough, big dog in a big dirt circle, with a big stake and chain pounded into the ground in the very middle...my friend starts to tease the dog, who was asleep...the dog wakes, goes into a rage, yanks the stake right out of the ground, and rips my friend's cheek open until it is a just big flap of skin hanging off of his face...
to this day, his face is a huge scar on that side, from having his cheek reattached...
who is at fault when the dog rips the face?
these Occupations are non-violent...
passively-so...
if you believe in your governmental structures, you have a need to Occupy...
if you don't, Ron Paul is the answer...
this movement is intentionally anonymous, non-violent and critical, as is the continual framing of the practice...
it smells right...because it is...
the underlying purpose is to continue to consolidate the movement...
to emanate justice...
hence the Golden Rule: do unto others as you'd have then do unto you...
people power is changing the world right now?
uhuh, more powerful than nuclear power...
as in the greed-machine's coming shutdown...
Answer: The whole system: Your friend for taunting. You, for not telling him to stop. The old man for not securing the dog better. The dog? The dog was doing what a dog does. People have free will, not animals.
The point of the Occupy movement is to get all the 99% on board, including in this case, the cops (aka the dogs).
believe me, I did tell him to stop going near, and teasing, the dog...
the reason my face is still gorgeous is because I didn't go near the damn dog, I stayed behind the corner of the house, where I could bolt for my friend's house if anything went horribly awry, which I did...like lightning...
yes, the dog was doing what the dog does...
strange that we deny ourselves the same right we grant the dog...
the right to be, and act, as one actually is...
rather makes free will an oxymoron...
or an other's...
or a dog's...
maybe that's what heaven is, huh? men get to be as free as dogs...
People are animals, too, my friend. And we have "free will" because we have no choice, just following our nature.
you were both at fault: the kid for taunting a big, chained dog, you for going around back when the owner wasn't home. the owner, to some extent for having a violent, untrained and improperly secured dog. There is nothing complicated about the underlying morality in your story and nothing that sheds much light on the moral issues here. To be blunt however, I'd say your friend's behavior was an excellent example of evolutionary selection in action.
dubet,
The analogy doesn't hold, and people are transposing the characters. The dog is the victim and in another take the Occupier, your friend is the 1% and/or the police.
There is no blame or criticism of you as a child here; you were only a child and could not have known better in a society that offered you only one model of behavior, one "play" with abuser, victim, helpless bystander, etc. That play, shown over and over in movies, TV, books, newspapers, pre-Zinn history lessons... (High Noon? Rambo? every movie Steven Seagall has ever been in, every single episode of 'Kung Fu', which you might have seen at that age... Avatar...It's a pervasive message, utterly dominating our media: that you only have 2 choices. You can be violent, or you can be a victim or an ineffectual weakling. You can fight, or you can be nothing. Everyone who tries to not fight either loses or fights, in that one single story we see over and over and over. Try to think of major movies that show the other story: 'Gandhi', and then there's um... there's, well there has to be another one, um... hmmmm...
Is that true of real life? Of course not; we now have hundreds of examples of successful peaceful mass actions, the freeing of what--dozens? of countries? and social/political/financial victories. But on the rare occasions those stories are told at all, they don't get funding for PR, stars, or all the other trappings that make people go. That story remains almost entirely unheard and unseen.
Again, no criticism of that child...but what if, instead of pleading from behind the house, you had put your body between the abuser and his victim, and refused to step aside, NO MATTER WHAT?
What if you had been the Occupy movement?
I'm betting your friend would have an unscarred cheek, and that you would have a completely different story to tell about the usefulness of violence and non-violence.
From the article: "When I see a New York City policeman pepper-spray already captive young women in the face, I am disgusted; I want things to be different. And that pepperspraying incident, terrible though it was for the individuals, did not succeed in any larger way."
I bet the author also wishes for a puppy an a 'green' economy based on moonbeams and unicorn farts.
Non-violence is fine. In Theory.
In practice, in the real world, Pacifism(tm) and Non-violence(tm) enables the violent, and reinforces their view that the non-violent will tolerate ANY abuse.
Pacifists BEG to not be beaten quite so hard, and would the Police mind terribly not shooting tear gas canisters at the protestors heads, and is it allowable for the protestors to use the 'Free Speech(tm)' sheep pens that the authorities have set up, and may we please not be shot at while the protestors document the Police violence and abuse with their cameras. The dedicated non-violent even REFUSE to defend themselves or others in the face of egregious abuse, no matter the level of violence or provocation, and routinely castigate those who do decide to defend themselves.
Does that sound like any kind of 'effective' resistance?
As for the Police thug who touched off the whole recent Police violence/ we-won't respond-no-matter-what-pathological-Pacifism(tm), Anthony 'Tony Balony' Bologna was effectively REWARDED by taking away three of his paid vacation days, meaning he would get regular paid duty, which is just another opportunity for him to commit more unidirectional (from the top down) violence in the name of the State.
Yep, we sure have come along way from when the Police turned fire-hoses and dogs loose on protestors.
Not.
So how do you explain the civil rights movement, Indian independence, the fall of the Soviet Union and freeing of Eastern Europe, the success of non-violence in South Africa after a century of violent resistance to colonialism and effective repression of those violent resistors, and so many other peaceful successes?
Nothing succeeds every time. Where non-violence hasn't succeeded, often it's because it hasn't been tried, or hasn't been adopted by enough people, or is sabotaged by people who believe as you do because they are unable to rise above their own personal demons of reactive rage and fear.
Those who rule and those who assist them are almost never completely heartless and while there MAY be a very very few who cannot be reached, most can, when the threat of violence against them is sufficiently removed and they are shown sufficient amounts of wisdom/love and sufficiently assured they will be OK in the post-revolution world.
Look at what has happened because of police violence and protestor non-violence: millions of people have come to agree with the Occupy movement in just a few months, after decades of contrary propaganda. Amazing!
You expect to accomplish everything in months with no losses and no mistakes? Why aren't your standards the same for the use of violence, which has lost thousands of battles and when it's won, almost always compromised and tainted the victory beyond recovery. The inevitably violent people who rise to leadership in a violent revolt govern violently, and fail to change anything but the names on the letterhead.
Your inaccurate characterization of and apparent disdain for peaceful people as weak reveals much about your personal demons; you need to address them in some other forum.
I've always liked Solnit, in spite of well-crafted hatchet pieces like this one, which is essentially an attack on anything not exclusively embracing protest politics as *the* exclusive engine of change. Like some others, the topic of how change occurs and in what conditions is vastly more complex than Solnit lays out here, and her devotion to Schell--who has made an art of oversimplifying and Disney-fying the lessons that can be learned from revolutions past--is disturbing for its complete comittment without even seriously considering the alternatives.
I agree with Solnit and her ilk on one thing: this is not a violent moment for us. It should not be and it cannot be. For now. But that will almost certainly change as the perceived threat to power changes. Right now, power is at best annoyed, but it is not seriously threatened. But you can see what it is that power *does* fear. It fears the possibility of the sword coming in behind the flower. You don't hire bodyguards to protect against signs. That's what you hire media for. Yet bodyguards are being hired by the boatload. Why is that? Not one single attempt to harm a master has occurred, yet the executive security industry is humming. They are preparing for a war they know they are causing. And here they are, two steps ahead of the rest of us, who still can't get an honest history straight.
I read Ghandi's post above mine, and he hits half the nail really well. He says we gain respect by taking punches. I agree. We do. But is our goal to gain respect? Partly. That's how resistance grows. But our goal is presumably to change the power relations between our current rulers and ourselves. Not temporarily--although many of you would be happy for just a reprieve--, but permanently. We are preparing to bargain for a reprieve, but the 1% is preparing for permanence.
It's unusual that I can read a piece by an author I have healthy respect for, and find myself categorically disagreeing with almost every point and every fact claim raised. She says OWS is winning. I think the jury's out on that score. And even then, it would depend on what one meant by "winning". There isn't the slightest indication that OWS will lead to policy change, even less that it wil change the power relations between elites and the rest of us.There is absolutely no evidence for this claim. It is either propaganda or faith. She claims a defeat of the police, which is an almost laughable assertion. She makes many claims that are unsubstantiated at best, juvenile fantasy at worst.
When this happens, I tend to think this is about more than just an honest exchange of ideas between people trying to find the best way forward. I think it's a clash of cherished mythologies in play. The residual romantics of the 60s making their last stand in the face of the obvious versus the reemergence of pre-War militancy that markedthe resistance in many of America's previous social struggles.
Solnit doesn't expect this to be easy, for sure. But she does expect this to be clean and she expects the struggle to resemble the conditions of her world. Civilized, comfortable, and predictable. And anything that gets in the way of that apparently is subject to nothing but ungrounded contempt and a blindness that will lead us all to slaughter.
I think it's time that CD at least publishes one counterweight to this. I don't mind liberals--or anyone else--having an agenda. We all have them, as do I. But if you're claiming to serve an educative function, let another voice into the air. If you can't find that other voice, I'll be happy to write the damned thing myself, no charge.
"But is our goal to gain respect? Partly. That's how resistance grows. But our goal is presumably to change the power relations between our current rulers and ourselves. Not temporarily--although many of you would be happy for just a reprieve--, but permanently. We are preparing to bargain for a reprieve, but the 1% is preparing for permanence."
The 1% are already in a state of permanence. Freedom is never permanent. It requires constant vigilance. The struggle for freedom will never end. That's why the 60's failed. They thought they taught a lesson and that was it. The Occupy movement must never end. This is our country. We Occupy it by being occupiers in it for the rest of our lives.
No one will respect you until you respect yourself. Acting like your enemy, says to the enemy you have no determination and no honor. No self respect. The way we change power relations between current rulers and ourselves is by having elections. Not by killing those in power.
Juvenile fantasy is thinking you can change the world by force. It's the Rambo syndrome. Fighting fire with fire. What's happening in America, the rule by the rich (the few), is the standard of history around the world. America was supposed to be different. Rule by the people (the many). We can change the world by being the change we want to see in the world. We can change the world by fighting fire with water. Lots and lots of water. Each person, a drop.
I'm trying my best to be respectful, but I'd appeciate it if you'd stop trying to break the Guiness record for stringing the most cliches in a row. thanks.
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My feelings exactly. If CD is reading this, please take 'drone' up on the offer to write the rebuttal; I am sure it will be eloquent and well-reasoned. Like drone, I'm a big fan of Ms. Solnit, but after reading the news about what's happening in Occupy Oakland and Occupy Albany I have to think she declared 'victory' a little prematurely.
RE: Like some others, the topic of how change occurs and in what conditions is vastly more complex than Solnit lays out here...
RE: She says OWS is winning. I think the jury's out on that score.
Great points! At the moment the OWS is a protest movement not a revolutionary movement as Solnit appears to imply. To have revolutionary potential, it needs to get exponentially bigger (and have an agenda beyond reforming the system). That should be the goal: to build the movement to a size that it really could make a big difference.
Now, most importantly, the Occupy movement needs to grow and grow. Violence by Occupy protesters could easily result in turning people who are sympathetic to the movement away from joining. If that happens OWS will wither and die. In my view this is why the police are coming down hard: to provoke violence by Occupy participants, thus nipping the movement in the bud. So far this has backfired, partly because of Occupy's non-violent protest. And I agree with Solnit that the violent actions of the "so-called anarchists" doesn't help - and more to the point, they don't do anything to challenge the power of the 1%. It is counter-productive (and may be the work of agent-provocateurs).
If we look at the history of various broad-based liberation or revolutionary struggles, the overwhelming majority of violence was used by the forces of counter-revolution. I agree that violence is a tactic and I think it is for the most part a counter-productive tactic for mass struggle. But that doesn't mean that it always is. That is the nuance that Solnit doesn't seam to allow.
Please do so. I think you've made a great start already.
Incredibly ironic that this arrives just as Oakland and Portland get kicked out with token nonviolent resistance. It's grotesque to try to shame people into not defending themselves, it really is. And I think commondreams needs to balance this out with something that properly explains diversity of tactics. This video of immigrant rights organizer, Harla Walia at the Vancouver Olympics protest is a powerful rebuttal to Solnit's dogmatic, deluded thinking:
http://vimeo.com/9705341
Indeed a powerful rebuttal. Definitely a must see to give balance to Solnit's article. Thanks rg for the link.
The general problem here seems to be so many are willing to kill for freedom, yet no one is willing to be killed for the freedom of others.
Political leaders refuse to take a stand and risk assassination. The cops are supposed to take a bullet to protect someone. Armchair protesters refuse to put their bodies on the line and would rather post well crafted comments in comfy internet forums (CD company excluded).
In all of recorded history, non-violence has never once brought about a significant change of an entrenched financial or political system. Ghandi arranged for thousands of Indians to die, and King... do you really think King believed that marching hundreds of blacks through Birmingham's downtown would pass without violence? From the view of the violent, non-violence is weakness and lack of will and requires no actions of significance. Non-violence has never achieved anything in and of itself. It is only a necessary preparation for honorable violence.
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Thanks for proving it.
robert1234: You are so wrong about nonviolent action. Do you think Tunisian and Egyptian revolts would have less bloodshed and would be as successful as they have been and inspired other actions around the world? Do you think the revolt in Wisconsin would have been more successful if the workers started killing cops and other government workers? Why is violent revolution and violence so glorified? You should read the work of Gene Sharp. The Politics of Nonviolent Action, and his pamphlet "From Dictatorship to Democracy",translated into Arabic and wildly disseminated in the Middle East and discussed on Facebook and Google as well in small study groups all over the Middle East. They tried armed struggle that you seem so enamored with and they were crushed. Nonviolent revolution as with any revolution is not with out death, injury and pain. But which way is the least costly in terms of live and property? There are no guarantees with any form of struggle. But it is time to try something new and more powerful and braver. Gandhi, Dr. Martin Luther King and others all knew there would be casualties. But who has the moral high ground? What kind of world do we want to live in? You should read "Nonviolent Social Movements" by Steve Zunes or "A Force More Powerful" by Ackerman and Duvall or George Lakey's "Powerful Peace Making: A Strategy for a Living Revolution" or his first book "Strategy for a Living Revolution". There are hundreds of examples of successful uses of nonviolence to overthrow governments and win social justice over the last 30 years and earlier in human history in all cultures around the globe. Do you think the Civil Rights bill would have passed without marches, sit-ins, Freedom Rides and boycotts? Do you think we would have stopped the involvement of US troops in Vietnam or halted the spread of nuclear power by armed struggle as opposed to nonviolent direct action? You should check out the Nonviolent Direct Action Database at Swarthmore College at http://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/nonviolent-action-defined which is based on Gene Sharp's 198 Methods of Nonviolent Direct Action. Being nonviolent does not mean being passive. It means interrupting the business as usual to say no, stop what you are do because it is wrong and oppressive. It means putting your body on the line. You must be fearless like the Egyptian's are and have been. And finally you should check out the late William Moyer's (Not the PBS guy) "Doing Democracy: The MAP Model of Nonviolent Action". After all the police and military are just pawns of the 1%. They have been conditioned or brainwashed" to obey orders and be "good German's.
Agroos, great rant and you are very full of hate: cretins have many colors throughout history, U$A Whittey is the worst these days.
If you can, find some joy in your life. Let someone whisper sweet somethings into your ear, because right now you are expelling sour gas of a lethal nature. As Shadow Dancer says "better to forgive". And better to free yourself from the overwhelming hate.
Really ? The only cretins that destroyed the whole planet are white, PeterTermitePig.
So, fascist ignorant american fuck, let someone pour white phosphorous over your ear and your whole family's ears and then shoot your children in the face and then see how much 'joy' you can find.
Really easy to find joy, fascist termite, when the rest of the world foots the bill. We don't forgive. People at the receiving end don't forgive and don't forget. Only liberal fascist termite pig westerners 'forgive' because it is easy for you to 'forgive'. You forgave EVERY SINGLE freely elected fascist butcher. Not one of your freely elected representatives EVER got a modicum 'justice' for all the atrocities carried out with your full consent and support over the last 250 years.