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Up Is Down, Down Is Up: Bill O'Reilly Explains OWS
On his Friday night show, Bill O'Reilly took his viewers to a magical place--one where the right-wing Koch brothers have no connection to the Tea Party movement, while Occupy Wall Street is a secret project directed and financed by the likes of Moveon.org, SEIU and George Soros.
At the top of his broadcast, O'Reilly wondered if we are now in "phase two of the campaign to undermine America"--this would apparently be the phase where activists protest against police brutality, with an assist from "the radical MoveOn organization, which is funding some of the occupiers."
As he explained his conspiracy theory:
The Occupy Wall Street Movement is not a spontaneous protest against economic inequality. It is a well-thought-out campaign to bring down the infrastructure of this country, to turn us into a Western European-type entitlement state.
That's what George Soros, MoveOn, the SEIU and many far-left journalists want. And they are using the protests to that end.
Moments later, O'Reilly was "interviewing" Fox News contributor Leslie Marshall, who mentioned the right-wing billionaire Koch brothers. That left O'Reilly visibly upset:
O'REILLY: OK, well, you can believe anything you want, you're an American, but you made a statement that the Koch brothers were tied into the Tea Party financially. Can you prove that?
MARSHALL: Well, the Koch Brothers (INAUDIBLE) such as Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin.
O'REILLY: Can you prove it. Wait. Wait, wait, wait, Leslie.
MARSHALL: Yes.
O'REILLY: Leslie, you're a Fox News contributor. You have a responsibility. Can you prove the Koch brothers are tied into the Tea Party financially? Can you?
MARSHALL: With a check in hand, no.
O'REILLY: OK. Thank you.
While it's certainly the responsibility of a guest to be able to document such facts, it's rather unlikely that O'Reilly would have accepted any such facts anyway.
Do the Koch brothers have anything to do with the Tea Party? Well, yes. The Americans for Prosperity Foundation was founded by Charles Koch, and has served to train Tea Party activists. As Jane Mayer reported in the New Yorker (8/30/10):
Americans for Prosperity has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement's inception. In the weeks before the first Tax Day protests, in April, 2009, Americans for Prosperity hosted a website offering supporters "Tea Party Talking Points." The Arizona branch urged people to send tea bags to Obama; the Missouri branch urged members to sign up for "Taxpayer Tea Party Registration" and provided directions to nine protests. The group continues to stoke the rebellion. The North Carolina branch recently launched a "Tea Party Finder" website, advertised as "a hub for all the Tea Parties in North Carolina."
The anti-government fervor infusing the 2010 elections represents a political triumph for the Kochs. By giving money to "educate," fund and organize Tea Party protesters, they have helped turn their private agenda into a mass movement.
Or as one source rather colorfully put it:
A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party: "The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It's like they put the seeds in the ground. Then the rainstorm comes, and the frogs come out of the mud--and they're our candidates!"
And Dick Armey's FreedomWorks group, which has very publicly helped organize Tea Party activists, is the product of a merger between Empower America and Citizens for a Sound Economy--the latter heavily backed by the Koch brothers.
So other than founding and funding the groups that have been key organizers and trainers of the Tea Party movement, the Kochs have little to do with it.
Don't tell that to Bill O'Reilly, though. He can only connect certain dots:
This isn't a spontaneous demonstration against crony capitalism. If it were, they would be in front of the White House. This is organized by the unions backed up by George Soros and the MoveOn people.
The links between those groups and OWS prompted the other guest, Caroline Heldman, to turn the tables on O'Reilly:
HELDMAN: Bill, do you have evidence to back up those links? Do you have evidence?
O'REILLY: Yes, absolutely, we have reporters down there all the time and the reporters ask people who they are, where they are going. The spontaneous people are back to their jobs; 85 percent of them, Dr. Heldman, have jobs. You can't stay off the job for a month. I can back what I say up.
Now THAT is evidence--Fox-style.
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Show AllOccupy Wall Street is a promoted Adbusters event...remember?
http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/36-adbusters
The 1st I heard about these protests - or the Desire for the 99% movement was from www.ampedstatus.com and david degraw who seems to be active in the NY protests.
http://ampedstatus.org/a-report-from-the-frontlines-the-long-road-to-occupywallstreet-and-the-origins-of-the-99-movement/
As far as I can tell David Degraw dislikes Both coopted, captured and corrupt political parties.
Memo to CD: why not reprint a few articles from globalresearch.ca and ampedstatus?
The FOX formula is for each of their broadcasters to create serial conspiracy theories in order to distract attention from the serial conspiracies corporations and the politicians they own are engaged in.
This line from Fox's favorite pundit is the item that ought to be deconstructed:
"It is a well-thought-out campaign to bring down the infrastructure of this country, to turn us into a Western European-type entitlement state."
In a REAL debate, the issue of who's bringing down the infra-structure might lead to an informed debate focused on the degrees to which NAFTA & GATT sent jobs (much of the industrial infra-structure) overseas.
Secondly, opening the door to a factual analysis of European style "entitlement" states might radically educate Fox viewers. If an honest guest were allowed to utilize a set of graphs to depict just what Europeans GET for their tax dollars, then such a comparison, if rendered honestly, would send a lot of Amerikans packing, or otherwise ignite a spark of envy for what is entirely plausible were the nation's fiscal priorities not decided by the MIC & the bankster crooked caste.
Thirdly, an honest examination of the deregulatory craze and what it's meant for banking and the net loss of homes (and home values) on a mega-scale might qualify as a closer Exhibit A as to what wrecked the nation's infra-structure.
Leave it to this worm of a man to suggest that OWS is the culprit!
What do you expect from a "man" who thinks that the tides are a mystery that modern science just can't explain?
At least with the "European entitlement state" the people who fund the entitlement programs benefit from them.
In the US entitlement state the working class pays taxes to fund entitlement programs for corporations that 1) pay no taxes and 2) use part of the entitlements to bribe politicians to limit or eliminate benefits for taxpayers who paid for those benefits.
I'd also add that the dynamics of the scapegoat need to be deconstructed. O'Reilly and Beck are scapegoating experts. What follows is long and dense - but I think McKenna pulls back the veil on the core dynamic to which the vox populi is being subjected. This methodology of scrambling reason is ancient and can probably be better described, and someone out there will do so.
Violence and Difference by Andrew McKenna
The Cogito and the Demoniac
p.55
"Modern culture, which is synonymous with sacrificial crisis as the dissolution of differences (VS 188), translates religion unequivocally as poison, as an opiate that seeks to expel. The rationalist expulsion of religion is properly sacrificial, however, as the latter is defined by mistaking the effect of violence for its cause. According to Derrida’s reading, this is how philosophy treats (its own origin in) madness (the parenthetical phrase designating just what is expelled and veiled at once). Reason operates sacrificially, exposing madness to view while concealing its resemblance to it. It is just this paradoxical structure that Girard discovers in the narrative of the Gerasene demoniac in the synoptic Gospels (Mark 5; Luke 8; Matt.8).
Jesus is confronted by Geresenes who complain of a madman who is possessed by demons and inhabits the tombs, existing between the living and the dead. His indifference to living and dead, to the difference between them, constitutes the difference of this creature from the rest of the community. The demoniac is a phantom creature whose structural resemblance to writing as portrayed by Derrida is noteworthy: neither living nor dead, the madness of the demoniac embodies indifferentiation, the same crisis of difference that Derrida portrays when he invokes “the sense of krinein, the choice and division between the two ways separated by Parmenides in his poem, the palintrope in which logos is lost; the way of meaning and the way of non-meaning; of Being and of non-Being (PP 62).
Girard identifies this demoniac as a sacrificial victim: he is given to autolapidation, imitating in his own person the sacrificial practice of the community towards its victims; that is, he simulates the destiny allotted to victims, whose stoning incarnates the violence at a distance on which every community depends. He gives his name as “Legion”, whereby he bears witness to the unanimous, mimetic violence of the crowd: “In describing the unity of the multiple, the Legion symbolizes the social principle itself, the type of organization that rests not on the final expulsion of demons but on the sort of equivocal and mitigated expulsions that are illustrated by our demoniac, expulsions which ultimately end in the co-existence of men and demons” (The Scapegoat 182). When the demons ask Jesus that they not be expelled from the country, they are permitted to invade a flock of pigs, which subsequently hurl themselves over a cliff. The cliff symbolizes a classical locus of ritual execution; like Rome’s Tarpeian rock, it offers violence at a distance. The gregarious, that is, the unanimous, self-destruction of the pigs symbolizes the mimetic violence of the community. The demoniac is consequently found to be sane by the Gerasenes, who ask Jesus to leave their territory. The demons ask not to be expelled from the country for the same reason that the Gerasenes ask Jesus, on curing the demoniac, to leave the country: the community relies on the proximity of the demons for the perpetuation of its sacrificial order.
It is ordinary human reason, still mimetically dependent on the incarceration of its other, its double, still in the grips of mimesis, that expels Jesus: “Since all coexistence between Jesus and the demons is impossible, to beg him not to chase away the demons, when one is a demon, is the same as begging him to depart, if one is from Gerasa” (The Scapegoat 182). In the eyes of the community, Jesus replaces the madman as indifferent to the difference on which the community is founded: “These unfortunate people fear that their precarious balance depends on the demoniac, on the activities they share periodically and on the kind of local celebrity their demoniac had become” (181). In this “espece de celebrite locale qu’est devenue leur posede” we recognize “le fou de jour” cited by Derrida, “the madman of the day” (WD 61), whose enclosure, whose attenuated expulsion, is necessary to the life of philosophy. The madman is the truth of the community, though not so as to warrant the romantic celebration of madness that runs from Dumas per (Kean ou Desordre et genie) through the contemporary Nietzcheans, whose latter-day praise of folly holds up madness as a sort of countercultural (i.e. metaphysical) ideal. This is the superior sense that Derrida detects in Foucault’s vision of the insane as “true bearers of the true and good sense hidden and oppressed” (WD 57) – and before whose “confessed terror” (WD 62) Derrida somewhat quixotically flourishes his pen as well.
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Ok, either this makes no sense or I can't understand it. Am I the only one ?
reposted below for continuity
Response to Siouxrose:
I was gonna say something like that: it is so 80's to assume that socialism is such a bad bad thing. People in socialist countries don't wake up and say, "Oh crap, I'm living in a socialist country! How do I get out of here?" Those people are allowed to get on with their lives instead of being expected to scrape and claw to achieve the next rung of "success" in a game that few people actually want to play.
I would rather focus on making music rather than making money, but that's not an option in the USA. How much are we missing out on by requiring every individual to play the money game instead of developing their gifts and talents?
I don't want to have to spend my life striving for more, more, more. But that's the only game here in America. You win or you lose. Not playing makes you a loser. American style is losing its appeal worldwide and hate-filled "Christians", I am sorry to say, are the basis of this demonic social Darwinism. Ironic, no?
And I mean I am literally sorry to say. This is my apology for my RW past and my RW church "friends" who think Christianity means being a Right-wing a**-hole.
This guy O'reilly is by definition correct in everything he says. He might as well be the Bible, as far as how many people take his words for gospel. One of the main issues underlying the whole mess is the confusion that results from being a Christian (literally a "follower of Christ") but thinking that RW ideology is the manifestation of such a belief system.
It should be obvious that I am not popular in my church community, but I am close enough to the periphery that I can and do influence some of them. It is imperative that at least some of these people wake up and see the matrix.
How much hatred and ill-will can be spread in Christ's name? Sigh.
con't
The demoniac figures as a guarantee of Gerasene order that his definitive expulsion menaces. This order resembles philosophical, Cartesian order, for it creates an alien form whose expulsion is what constitutes it as reason. The analyses of both Derrida and Girrard reveal madness as the truth of the community, but once again, not in such a way as to ensure a stable relation between truth and falsehood as simply exterior to each other. Madness is not a truth that transcends the lie of reason, for that would merely reverse a hierarchical order without challenging the violence of the hierarchy on which order is founded. Madness does not differ from reason or from the community from the outside, whereby it can just as well be romantically divinized as damned. It is the difference of reason and of the community from itself, within itself; it is their difference, their originary polemos.
Philosophy or Anthropology ?
“… Girard has argued strenuously against any such resemblance (between Dionysus and Christ as argued by Derrida), insisting that the Judeo-Christian logos is the victim and that it differs fundamentally from both pagan mythos and philosophical logos. This is indeed the foundational – and redemptive – import of what he calls “the anthropology of the Gospels”: If you understand the old sacred as a closed system, and if you understand the Gospels as a revelation of how that system works, then the Gospel cannot come from within the closure of violence” (“The logic of the Undecidable” 16; see also THFW 264-76). The properly hermeneutic role of Scripture is to reveal the originary violence that myths occlude and philosophy, in its wake, bleaches out. Perhaps it is only as a revelation of violence within the text of philosophy that Derrida can be of interest for Girardians, but that interest is not to be underestimated…”
I think you have done well in commenting on a phenomenon that is so hard to get our heads around. I will find the book.
I wonder what a drug test would tell us about Bill O'Reilly...
We KNOW what they would tell us about Limpballs. Oxy, Viagra, ect.
I would be embarrassed if I got caught with that amount of Viagra. I guess that means he can't get it up without help from the pills.
He is so fat, you have to roll him in flour to find the wet spot.
I just can not believe the stupidity of those that listen to fox.
Ok, MSNBC, CNN, HLN, ect too.
Rush Limbaugh may also be sharing his oxycontin with Bill, in which case Bill is constipated (everybody who takes oxy is) which partially explains Bill's demeanor.
He's likely to be an alcoholic, the worst of the druggies. Booze doesn't show up on a drug test.
If one is tested for blood-alcohol content, yes, booze does show up. Where have you been for the last 70 years? Today, the police routinely check for BAC, THC and M-AMP with one single test.
Yes, but with a big difference.
A high BAC only shows up while you are actually under the influence of alchohol. But the THC tests show positive even weeks after you last smoked and are perfectly straight and sober. That is why the near-universal drug test screening by US employers (done no where else in the world except maybe Saudi Arabia and Iran) is such a profoundly oppressive thing.
Y'know, it is far easier for a pot head to go 2 weeks without lighting up so that he/she can pass a test, but alcoholics freak out if required to refrain from imbibing for more than 24 hours.
The fact that Bill O'Reilly is obfuscating wildly about Occupy Wall Street speaks clearly to the fear that OWS inspires in his erstwhile employers and himself. The more that OWS gains traction, the less 'influence' Bildo wields as Rupert Murdoch's #1 American media shill...and that hits him where he lives...in the pocketbook. Another possible positive side-effect of OWS could be the blunting of media sociopaths like Bildo, and begin their slide to the sort of irrelevance that Bildo's spiritual predecessor, Father Charles Coughlin, endured for nearly 40 years after Coughlin's period of prominence in the 30's.
"Another possible positive side-effect of OWS could be the blunting of media sociopaths like Bildo, and begin their slide to the sort of irrelevance that Bildo's spiritual predecessor, Father Charles Coughlin, endured for nearly 40 years after Coughlin's period of prominence in the 30's."
Couldn't happen to a better guy.
Fox news is an oxymoron in it's self, I wonder how it feels to be named in polls as one of the most dangerous liars to the American public, him and Hannity. Republicans do in fact protect the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, corporations, banks, etc. Fox, the tea party, Koch brothers, wall street, etc. Are all republicans and could care less about the working class and poor. Cuts to Social Security, No Health care, Medicare on a voucher system that will be cut as time passes, no heat assistance, food stamps, unemployment, planned parenthood, the list goes on and on, the working class and poor should not have these programs, the money is needed to pay for the tax cuts for the rich.
As always, Shadow Dancer, spot on. I would only add the words of the Bard (Paul McCartney): "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da"
It is entertaining to read ALL of Bill-Oh's speel. read it here:
http://tinyurl.com/6xq5x6k
Here he links OWS, MoveOn with the KKK It's all about hating Jews. Imagine that.
I just love you guys here on CD. I get the best laughs in the morning, and it leaves me breathless but with a goofy smile on my face for the rest of the day. It scares the hell out of the animals but they are patient with me.