Get News & Views Updates
Most Popular This Week
- A Culture That Condones The Killing Of Children And Teaches Children To Kill
- Slaughter in Connecticut: 20 Children, 6 Adults Dead in Kindergarten Massacre
- How the Mighty (Mississippi) Has Fallen: Historic Drought Plagues US
- Wealthiest Kissed, Weakest Kicked: Obama's Ugly 'New Deal' Offers to Cut Social Security
- 'I'd Rather Fight Like Hell': Naomi Klein's Fierce New Resolve to Fight for Climate Justice
- A Culture That Condones The Killing Of Children And Teaches Children To Kill
- 'I'd Rather Fight Like Hell': Naomi Klein's Fierce New Resolve to Fight for Climate Justice
- Wealthiest Kissed, Weakest Kicked: Obama's Ugly 'New Deal' Offers to Cut Social Security
- Remember All the Children, Mr. President
- Save the Children: Tears and Tragedy in Connecticut
Popular content
Today's Top News
Occupy Wall Street on the Move
The question confronting the Occupy Wall Street encampments and their offshoots in scores of cities and towns around the country is quo vadis? Where is it going?
This decentralized, leaderless civic initiative has attracted the persistent attention of the mass media in the past five weeks. Television cameras from all over the world are parked down at Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan, two blocks from Wall Street.
photo: Todd Blaisdell
But the mass media is a hungry beast. It needs to be fed regularly. Apart from the daily pressures of making sure the encampments are clean, that food and shelter are available, that relations with the police are quiet, that provocateurs are identified; the campers must anticipate possible police crackdowns, such as that which has just occurred in Oakland, and find ways to rebound.
There are enough national polls showing broader support for the Occupy people than for the Tea Party people. Additional communities are installing their own Occupy sites right down to small towns like Niles, Michigan (pop. 12,000) and Bethel, Alaska where Diane McEachern is occupying the tundra. But, there is trouble ahead.
First, police departments in other cities will be observing the nature and reaction of mass arrests in places like Denver, Chicago and Atlanta. The plutocrats’ first response is always to push police power against the people. The recidivist violations of the ruling class are rarely pursued, yet the rumbles of the lower class are often stifled. With the onset of colder weather and looming police pressure, the protestors need new venues for their demonstrations
Activists need to vary their tactics. I suggest citizens surround the local offices of their Senators and Representatives. The number of Americans fed up with a gridlocked Congress, beset by craven or cowardly, both marinated in corporate campaign cash, can motivate an endless pool of activists who want their voices to be heard.
We know that the Occupy people want to keep their opposition on a general level of informed outrage and not get to the specific policy level. Fine. The 535 people in Congress, who put their shoes on every day like we do, are quite susceptible to a fast rising rumble from the people. They don’t need specifics. They know all about the savagely avaricious corporate paymasters and their swarming lobbyists on Capitol Hill wanting ever more varieties of goodies and less corporate law enforcement. What they need to know is that you’ve got their number and that people are fed up and on the move.
More members of Congress than one might expect, with their finger to the wind, start readjusting their antennas when they sense voter agitation. It is just that for years, there has been nary a breeze from that crucial source, while the corporatists have had their party year after year with their governmental toadies on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.
Make no mistake; support for the power shift espoused by the 99 percent movement is now only a breeze but a windstorm is coming. The protesters are feeling their way – demonstrating before big banks and closing out their accounts in favor of smaller community banks. Protests in front of the Manhattan mansions of the superrich from the big media and the big hedge funds also make sense.
Each new protest gives the protesters new insights. The protestors are learning how to challenge controlling processes. They are assembling and using their little libraries on site. They are learning the techniques of open, non-violent civil disobedience and building personal stamina. They are learning not to be provoked and thereby win the moral authority struggle which encourages more and more people to join their ranks.
In the Arab Spring of Cairo, Egypt earlier this year, it was said that a million people in Tahrir Square lost their fear of the dictatorship. It can be said that in this “American Autumn,” some 150,000 people have discovered their power and rejected apathy. They have come far in so little time because the soil for their pushback is so fertile, nourished by the revulsion of millions of their countrypersons moving toward standing up and showing up themselves.
This vanguard of larger protests to come is building on the personal stories of desperate but failed attempts to find work; stories of heart-breaking inability to pay for healthcare for themselves or their families’; stories of being defrauded of their pensions, their tax dollars, their savings and their rights. They demand accountability for the culprits who lied, stole and got away with it destroying the economy. And they want Congress to never bailout the Wall Street crooks, swindlers and speculators with taxpayer dollars.
Shining the light of the 99 percenters on the operations base of the corporate supremacists and their Congressional minions in one location after another both empowers and further informs those Americans who are seeing that showing up is half of democracy.
- Posted in
Comments
Note: Disqus 2012 is best viewed on an up to date browser. Click here for information. Instructions for how to sign up to comment can be viewed here. Our Comment Policy can be viewed here. Please follow the guidelines. Note to Readers: Spam Filter May Capture Legitimate Comments...


123 Comments so far
Show AllAre not the the various occupy movements holding their own local "general assemblies"? Maybe it's time to elect their own reps from these assemblies. Maybe these reps should identify, amongst their own ranks, who are lawyers, legal experts, constitutional experts, etc... Maybe they should appoint their own judges, from amongst their rank... and prosecutors, juries, etc... and, on the contrary, WE own the guns (100 million or more citizens, owning hundreds of millions of guns). Maybe they should seek out friendly vets & cops, to appoint their own Marshals & deputies, issue their own warrants, conduct their own investigations (with friendly journalists, detectives, etc...). The 99-ers have EVERYTHING we need to conduct our own government , promote the general welfare, establish REAL justice, PROVIDE for OUR OWN common defense, etc... Once this MINDSET takes hold of the people, we'll see REAL results. Find friendly economists & accountants (they're out there), and issue our own SOVEREIGN currency (rendering fed notes null & void). Lincoln did it to defy wallstreet banks. We can too. And ASK fellow occupiers if they want Nader for Prez. If yes, then he IS prez, with REAL people power behind him.
i'm with you Inb, parallel government. Because it would be deeply participatory with citizen office holders that rotate power frequently, salaries would not need to be budgeted for professional politicians and the perks. That would bring even more people on board. Just ignore the feds and their trickle down types.
Good work inb! I like the direction you are heading with this. You are expressing an extremely powerful insight here.
I am so proud I voted for Nader.
Vote third party (except Libertarians) and start the foundation for a better future.
Or, of course, you could vote for the Republicrats. Or Demicans.
Did you read the article carefully? "More members of Congress than one might expect, with their finger to the wind, start readjusting their antennas when they sense voter agitation." Do you think Ralph was talking about republicans? I do not. That leaves us with democrats.
Ah, the Demicans and Republicrats. Even Eric Cantor mentioned "income disparity" in a speech. His solution, of course, was more tax cuts.
But you're right - all of a sudden, Obama isn't talking about "shared sacrifice" and few are talking about Deficit Reduction.
Vote third party (except Libertarians). I'm stand proud that I voted for Nader.
I love Nader but I very much disagree with him here.
Occupy needs to keep it's focus on the plutocrats who pull the strings, not switch to a focus on politicians. While going to their local offices is different somewhat, it's still basically the same thing as rallies in D.C., as phone calls, as post cards and petitions. THESE TACTICS HAVE FAILED.
Switching to pressuring the politicians to change is going backwards. We need to move forward and continue to occupy the real power. We need to focus on the 1% not their toadies in Congress. As we do that we will get the attention of Congress as it becomes more and more clear that the 99% are with OWS.
Nader's positions on the issues are wonderful. But Nader is still an old style advocate of change: lobbying Congress and running for office as a candidate. OWS is a new style.
Once we start down the road advocated by Nader the next step is what a caller to Thom Hartmann this morning was advocating and getting lots of agreement from Thom. He said what OWS needs to do is imitate the Tea Party and form a caucus in the Democratic Party and get candidates. This was the mistake of the Wisconsin Occupation last winter, letting itself be co-opted into Democratic politics.
I call on OWS to not listen to these voices calling us back to the old politics that have failed us. I call on us to continue to occupy where the plutocrats are. I call on us to add occupations not at politician's offices but at the media studios where the propaganda arm of the plutocracy is. Occupy Rockereller Plaza.
Let's do both.
I second the motion.
The 99% is big enough for every senator and every congressman to have 1000 people outside their door with plenty left over for wallstreet. We are Legion. Truth is on our side, we have the might, but we don't need to "make" right, we ARE right. One-tier justice for all. Start with every war-profiteer in Washington, and work our way down the list.
Hartmann is a shill for the dem Party.
I've said it for years, especially when he wouldn't endorse Cindy Sheehan over the Bush/Cheney Crime Family protector, Nancy Pelosi, with his San Francisco radio audience.
Hartmann is a decent man and has done much good, but he tows the party line.
Good points. OWS is an innovative and probably more effective approach.
But we still need an alternative to the corporate-funded parties to vote for. The Green Party is the logical choice. They don't accept corporate money and they represent citizens' interests.
I agree that OWS shouldn't support the Democrats. Even support for a progressive Democrat gives this WHOLE corrupt party UNDESERVED CREDIBILITY.
People compare the vote totals for the Democrats and the Green Party, and conclude the Green Party isn't credible because it gets far fewer votes. YOUR DEMOCRATIC VOTE (EVEN FOR A PROGRESSIVE) MAKES THIS PROBLEM WORSE!
Vote Green!
Alan8,
I've got a better idea, vote for anyone or any party but "DEMOCRATS" and "OBAMA.” That should do it! Brother, I am on your side and I ain't a Repug or Democrat either.
I know what you are trying to say but voting anybody but Obama would imply that a Republican vote would do....I disagree.....
Avoid the Republican Party also....Support a third party candidate....(avoid libertarians)
Take care
Thomas Gilbert-
Thomas,
You are quite right what I did not say. Don't worry, brother, I am on your side. Let me ask you two honest questions: How many of us can survival another 4-yrs Obama's presidency and what would his 2nd term be like?
It's time to think again and reconsider. I am sure we all are afraid of the Repug's pigs. But what if....?
Take care brother, and here is a piece from Guardian UK:
“....In June 2002, during a budget crisis in Illinois, a state senator from Chicago's West Side, Rickey Hendon, made a desperate plea for a child-welfare facility in his constituency to be spared the axe. A junior senator from Chicago's South Side, Barack Obama, voted against him, insisting hard times call for hard choices.
Ten minutes later Obama rose, calling for a similar project in his own constituency to be spared, and for compassion and understanding. Hendon was livid and challenged Obama on his double standards from the senate floor. Obama became livid too. As Hendon has told it, Obama approached him, "stuck his jagged, strained face into my space", and said: "You embarrassed me on the senate floor and if you ever do it again I will kick your ass."
"What?" said an incredulous Hendon.
"You heard me," Obama said. "And if you come back here by the telephones where the press can't see it, I will kick your ass right now."................continue to read the rest here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/13/barack-obama-cool-to-cold
sivasm,
Thank you for responding to my concerns regarding Democratic/Republican voting options...It is now my belief that a vote for either party legitimizes this farce that passes for representative government in this country....
President Obama or his republican challenger will occupy the white house after the next election..This I am sure of...but..whoever wins will not get there with my support.
I am happy to hear you are on my side.
Take care
Thomas Gilbert-
Answer to your questions.....I do not know...Either do you....Now the Republicans are telling us what they will do...Keep on moving to the right....Do you think we can stand four years of that? The tea party idiots think we can..They support the republicans......Really...What do you think?
Thomas Gilbert-
What do you expect then from the 1%? Do you expect that they will begin to willingly pay more taxes? Do you expect health insurance CEOs to initiate a single payer health care system, or that the big banks will set up a fee tuition plan for struggling students, or that the military contractors will give up their business?
Our representatives have been ignoring us because we allowed them to do it. It was much easier for them to just take the money and hope for the best, and the best usually came through .... for them. Congress is supposed to make legislation. They will either stand up for the rights of the majority or we'll find others who will.
This must be a multi-pronged movement. Not all of us can or will camp out in our city squares. We need to take it to Congress, to our mayors, to the corporations that use and abuse, to the arts, universities, where ever and whenever we see the ugly head of inequality and injustice and money rule.
What do I expect the 1% will do in response to the Occupy Movement? I expect them to attack us, to use violence, to denigrate us, to work to increase their power and to act like the 1%.
The purpose of Occupy is NOT to convince the 1% or their lackeys in Congress to do something for us. The purpose of Occupy is to mobilize the 99% to take back our nation.
Occupy should continue to be what it has been and continue to move forward with this Occupying the nation. As the 99% are mobilize we will do all the things, and many more, that you, rvrwalker, and others have suggested. But I firmly believe that if the Occupy movement itself starts to do things like lobby, propose specific policies, endorse candidates, campaign or form a caucus that it will weaken the power of the movement. You see the problem with that is it turns the movement into another top down parapolitical organization.
The grassroots don't need another topdown parapolitical organization telling it what to do. Instead let's remain in this blessed anarchistic, grassroots, pluralistic movement that calls the 99% to act for themselves from the bottom up.
Second paragraph, brother or sister, that is the crux. Word to you.
Indeed.
I recommend checking out the Occupy Wall Street site and hearing from the source rather than listening to advice from Nader. I admire Nader, but he has always advocated reform, not transformation. And he isn't at all comfortable with the way Greens make decisions, through consensus, which is at the heart of Occupy Wall Street. Remember he was not a member of the Green Party. Even though he has warned the Occupy movement against co-opting; in fact, that's what he did with the Greens. Not complaining ---- we weren't strong enough or disciplined enough to resist ----- but it's a lesson learned.
Nader knew the Greens had been taken over the Democratic Party moles, and they were hostile to him because he would have made the Green Party large and strong, which the Democrats in charge never wanted. They even advocated voting for Kerry!
The Greens do nothing that I can see - are they even out in the streets? I don't see it. As someone who was involved with their beginnings 30 years ago, I can tell you they're nothing now.
Do not waste time and effort with the defunct "Greens." Build something Independent, run for office as an Independent, get on the ballot as an Independent and bring out the issues in the political races in your region.
It isn't necessary for you to win - and don't think of that as your goal or you will compromise (have seen it too often).
Use your campaign for public office as just another organizing tool. To me, that's what political campaigns are for in this era - to get out the issues and organize for further resistance to the evils that have arisen.
People feel hopeless and feel they can't win against the system. But if you win,then perchance you can give people hope and institute a few reforms so that people can see that it is possible to make changes, however small. This will give people confidence to stand up and speak out for what they know to be right.
There are many ways to involve the public in discussion and debate on ISSUES of import. Independent campaigns for public office are but one. Use all possible means of reaching people with not only what's wrong, but what could be done instead.
Give people alternatives to all the awfuls now confronting us. New ideas will then enter mainstream discussions, and others will come up with even more ideas.
We have to do it all. No one will do this for us.
Cleanearth,
Finally, someone here talks sense. Let us keep on talking till the cows come home. Talk, talk, talk and keep on talking, somehow someone will come out a perfect solution. Yawn, wake me up when you find that brilliant solutions.
While we talk, the pigs are getting fatter and richer, pretty soon Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security will be off the table and into the pigs, and military–industrial complex pockets. To fund wars and drones stations around the world.
Sister. Thanks. ::smile::
"The purpose of Occupy is NOT to convince the 1% or their lackeys in Congress to do something for us. The purpose of Occupy is to mobilize the 99% to take back our nation."
Very good. Thanks for that.
Look to your own general assemblies. Look to your own general assemblies. Look to your own general assemblies. It can't be said too many times. From THERE draw our own reps., lawyers, constitutional experts, judges, Marshals, Deputies, Investigators, Ambassadors, Treasurers, Cabinet Secretaries, etc... hold elections, hold hearings, issue warrants, call on witnesses, build cases, issue policy statements/proposals, propose treaties, etc...Look to your own general assemblies. We don't need to go to anyone else's doorstep. WE are the people. Wallstreeters will eventually come to OUR doorstep, seeking forgiveness. We'll reform THEIR opinions on how things work in a democracy.
Anyone candidate who aligns himself with the dem/repubs should be rejected. That is how we got where we are. Too many voted for Obama because he seemed like such a nice guy. They forgot that he was a democrat, controlled by the Party. We do not need any Party. How about just voting NADER. We do not need the 'permission' of a Party to do that. All you need is a pen. I have been writing in NADER for 30 years. I always vote my conscience. Join the W.I.N. campaign. Write in NADER.
I agree, Rosemarie, about rejecting any candidate who aligns himself with the dem/repubs, as they are the problem. It takes courage to vote for the lesser of two evils, and most people are still scared to leave the status quo.
I voted for Nader before, and in 2008, for McKinney, who did take on the Bush Republican Crime Family and their partners in crime--the Democrats, when she was a Democratic Party Congresswoman.
I have the deepest respect for Ralph Nader. The man has been fighting for decades.
But this:
"The 535 people in Congress [.,,] are quite susceptible to a fast rising rumble from the people."
I am very skeptical. Why? Here is one very good reason: despite overwhelming evidence from repeated polls that the majority of the people wants out of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Congress has continued supporting these criminal and murderous occupations by approving funding for them,
The OWSers have so far rightly ignored the entire body of constipated and utterly corrupt politicos, with the implication that it has become de facto irrelevant to the lives of the majority and needs to be pushed into de jure irrelevance. The Congress needs to be flushed out like the Augean stables, and the president needs to be driven out of office, just like Mubarak.
All else is merely a cosmetic waste of time in the current politically deadlocked situation.
Here is a worthwhile act: transferring your assets and bank account to a small, local, decent bank, i.e., a bank not engaged in the plundering of the country's coffers and residents. Hit the twin golden idols of America: money and the economy.
Oikos...I agree - the Congress is the BIG problem. That is why no one should vote for any Congressional candidate who is a dem/repub. The problem is the voters.
Please read my article titled CLUELESS AT CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS.
"The majority of the people wants out of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Congress has continued supporting these criminal and murderous occupations by approving funding for them"
Quite true! But I agree with Nader, this comes about because voters assist and select the very ones who will ignore their concerns. This author, Ralph Nader, gave voters multiple opportunities to change the equation - or at least threaten to do so! - but voters refused. While Ralph got less than 1/2 % voter approval in 2008, the corporate whores such as Obama, Pelosi, et al got the majority of votes. Nader voters tried to convince progressives to at least vote their conscience, vote for a peace and justice advocate as a matter of principle ... but no, they allowed themselves to be sucked in. Read the writer Mark Morford's piece, "Is Obama an Enlightened Being?" for an example of what we realists had to put up with from the Obama-bots. This passes for serious conversation? Now some blame the very people they voted for and supported, enthusiastically I might add. duh!
The money has great appeal for politicians but voter approval .... sine qua non.
Help the Greens select their 2012 candidate.
The Greens have no credibility left. Theyt were taken over about 10 years ago by Democratic Party moles to ensure they wouldn't actually grow strong enough to harm the D.'s. They're a sham, excepting the remnants of the original Green Party, http://www.greenparty.org .
No to any support whatsoever to the "Greens," and where are they, anyway? Not out in the streets, so far as I can see.
Must watch:
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA5bwYWvGtc&feature=related
Ralph offers sage advice--keep on the move and confront the very many targets deserving protests; plan to overcome winter by focusing on the sun-belt states--states that are generally anti-union and anti-human rights and full of human misery. As winter turns to spring in election year 2012, momentum needs to be building for a massive nationwide breakout of constant protest everywhere.
Where to send Get Well Cards:
Alameda County Medical Center
c/o Scott Olsen
1411 East 31st Street
Oakland, CA 94602
(510) 437-4800
I will go against the stream here and again advocate for a people's drafting of Rep. Barbara Lee for President, even though she is a Democrat.
She is the only person who voted against Public Law 107-40 which is the bane of our existence. She is the only politician with legitimate anti-war 'chops'.
Getting her into the Dem primaries will keep Obama from having a free ride until the November general election. She will pull the Dems to the left as perhaps no one else can.
She is the same race as Obama, so she steals his thunder there. As a female, she could garner the same 'change' enthusiasm that Obama generated last time around (for not being yet another pasty-faced white male).
Barbara Lee is from Oakland, a city in the news. We should piggy-back that media attention with calls for her to run.
2012: It's time for a woman in the White House.
"Make no mistake; support for the power shift espoused by the 99 percent movement is now only a breeze but a windstorm is coming."
I don't see it but hope he is right.
Nader has a good point (yep, I voted for him too); carry the street protests to the politicians. This is hardly like continuing the game as usual, and expecting results from letters and e-mails alone. Quite true, the frauds in Congress have repeatedly ignored even quite large anti-war protests in the past, but they cannot be somehow exempted from the people's outrage, and "direct democracy" is clearly in order to steal away a little of their hubris and arrogance.
It is also quite true that the movement needs to operate on many different levels at once. It is not surprising that this evolution is still in progres - the whole movement and the worldwide revolution it is a part of will continue to evolve.
So I believe one part of that movement - in America - is direct political activities that bypass the current corrupt institutions yet hold onto the idea of recreating a framework for a workable democratic republic. Let there be delegations from all 50 states created to hold a New Continental Congress, in anticipation of redrafting a new Constitution modeled on the old - if attempts to operate with the existing constitutional framework and document prove unsuccessful.
Such a call for a New Continental Congress (or whatever it might be called) sends a powerful, politically "organized" and recognizable message to the current lot of liars and thieves: you blew it, you broke the contract. We the People, and we the People of the individual States, declare you irrelevant. We begin anew, but not without a history, and a constitutional legacy and many hard-learned lessons along the way to guide us.
We are the spirit of the Founders, reborn. And we are very, very serious about this. You watch.
I like the New Continental Congress idea!
I implore everyone to watch and recommend Bill Black's videos at youtube. He, Michael Hudson and the rest at neweconomicperspectives.com are doing great things but don't get mentioned here.
If the public new that you've got legit economists on side-that warned of the crisis!-many more would turn out.
Po Thead,
I agree, Hudson and Bill Black are regular contributors in The Real News. Hudson was Congressman Dennis Kucinich Advisor during the 2008 presidential election. Both are from UMKC.
Yes it's all about changing public perception of what is normal and acceptable behavior for individuals and corporations in capitalist societies around the world. In the past avarice and greed have been acceptable, even admired, this must change to create a more humanistic approach to the human condition.
I've read and reread this article many times and it never fails to stun me. The amount of $$$$ in existence, and looted by the money-laundering banks is inconceivable. THERE IS NO CRISIS. Not in the sense of "there is no money", or "we're broke". The disparity in wealth between the 1% and the rest of us is real, and yet kind of a diversion too: Is the multi-million $ income of the CEOs, etc. outrageous? Yes, but it's PIGEON FEED. There are TRILLIONS of dollars lying around in hidden bank accounts. Here is the first paragraph of the article. The rest can be found at
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/economy/053101_banks.html.
"-- There is a consensus among U.S. Congressional Investigators, former bankers and international banking experts that U.S. and European banks launder between $500 billion and $1 trillion of dirty money each year, half of which is laundered by U.S. banks alone. As Senator Carl Levin summarizes the record: 'Estimates are that $500 billion to $1 trillion of international criminal proceeds are moved internationally and deposited into bank accounts annually. It is estimated that half of that money comes to the United States' ". And this was written in 2001!!!
"When debt is fraud, debt forgiveness is the last and only remedy". - Zeus Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D.
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogsept11/Zeus-debt-forgiveness-9-11.html
Abbybwood: Yes, indeed! Excellent! post!
..."There are TRILLIONS of dollars lying around in hidden banks accounts"... they are not lying there - they are designed to suck us dry by the very existence - testing how far it can go / every $1.00 just for $1.20 on sale
The Greens have yet to raise an issue..Excatly what do they stand for?
They are a side issue that is irrelavent. They should stay out of the
Occupy movement. The Clintons are now promoting Chelsea...
The Clintonistas should be banished from the Dem Party for all
the damage they have done to this country.
The Dem party should be banished from this country for all the damage they and the Republicans have done to this country. The Greens have had many good issues, and many good plans in past elections--but the media paid no attention to them, so in your mind, at least, they don't exist. You've got to get outside your corporate controlled world. There are mighty things afoot that Dan Rather and his ilk aren't talking about because they are afraid--afraid for their jobs, and afraid we will be pissed when we find out how we've been lied to. If you stand for Truth and Justice for All, you don't need to stand for anything else. Stand with us, or kneel as a slave--your choice.
The Democratic Party should be banished!!!!
Especially after the Democrats on the "Super Secret Super Fascist Super Deficit Reduction Committee" have come forward with the genius idea to gut Medicare instead of the military industrial complex!
Votecitizens.org
BTW Ralph. Howz about running as a legitimate third party candidate?? I'm sure you and those who frequent Commondreams are aware of this rotten "third party" effort on the horizon:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-mcmanus-column-third-party-americans-elect-20111027,0,4671890.column
Michael Bloomberg??
Hillary Clinton? Jon Huntsman? Gov. Buddy Roemer? Sen. Evan Bayh? Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz?
Aggghhhh!!!!!!!