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Occupy Wall Street Ends Capitalism's Alibi
This protest pinpoints how dysfunctional our economic system is: we must refashion it for human needs, not corporate aims
Occupy Wall Street has already weathered the usual early storms. The kept media ignored the protest, but that failed to end it. The partisans of inequality mocked it, but that failed to end it. The police servants of the status quo over-reacted and that failed to end it – indeed, it fueled the fire. And millions looking on said, "Wow!" And now, ever more people are organizing local, parallel demonstrations – from Boston to San Francisco and many places between.
Let me urge the occupiers to ignore the usual carping that besets powerful social movements in their earliest phases. Yes, you could be better organized, your demands more focused, your priorities clearer. All true, but in this moment, mostly irrelevant. Here is the key: if we want a mass and deep-rooted social movement of the left to re-emerge and transform the United States, we must welcome the many different streams, needs, desires, goals, energies and enthusiasms that inspire and sustain social movements. Now is the time to invite, welcome and gather them, in all their profusion and confusion.
It is long overdue in the US for us to have a genuine conversation and struggle over our current economic system. Capitalism has gotten a free pass for far too long. (photo: pfarnac1)
The next step – and we are not there yet – will be to fashion the program and the organization to realize it. It's fine to talk about that now, to propose, debate and argue. But it is foolish and self-defeating to compromise achieving inclusive growth – now within our reach – for the sake of program and organization. The history of the US left is littered with such programs and organizations without a mass movement behind them or at their core.
So permit me, in the spirit of honoring and contributing something to this historic movement, to propose yet another dimension, another item to add to your agenda for social change. To achieve the goals of this renewed movement, we must finally change the organization of production that sustains and reproduces inequality and injustice. We need to replace the failed structure of our corporate enterprises that now deliver profits to so few, pollute the environment we all depend on, and corrupt our political system.
We need to end stock markets and boards of directors. The capacity to produce the goods and services we need should belong to everyone – just like the air, water, healthcare, education and security on which we likewise depend. We need to bring democracy to our enterprises. The workers within and the communities around enterprises can and should collectively shape how work is organized, what gets produced, and how we make use of the fruits of our collective efforts.
If we believe democracy is the best way to govern our residential communities, then it likewise deserves to govern our workplaces. Democracy at work is a goal that can help build this movement.
We all know that moving in this direction will elicit the screams of "socialism" from the usual predictable corners. The tired rhetoric lives on long after the cold war that orchestrated it fades out of memory. The audience for that rhetoric is fast fading, too. It is long overdue in the US for us to have a genuine conversation and struggle over our current economic system. Capitalism has gotten a free pass for far too long.
We take pride in questioning, challenging, criticizing and debating our health, education, military, transportation and other basic social institutions. We argue whether their current structures and functioning serve our needs. We work our way to changing them so they perform better. And so it should be.
Yet, for decades now, we have failed to similarly question, challenge, criticize and debate our economic system: capitalism. Because a taboo protected capitalism, cheerleading and celebrating it became obligatory. Criticism and questions got banished as heresy, disloyalty or worse. Behind the protective taboo, capitalism degenerated into the ineffective, unequal, crisis-ridden social disaster we all now bear.
Capitalism is the problem – and the joblessness, homelessness, insecurity, and austerity it now imposes everywhere are the costs we bear. We have the people, the skills and the tools to produce the goods and services needed for a just society to prosper. We just need to reorganize our producing units differently, to go beyond a capitalist economic system that no longer serves our needs.
Humanity learned to do without kings and emperors and slave masters. We found our way to a democratic alternative, however partial and unfinished the democratic project remains. We can now take the next step to realize that democratic project. We can bring democracy to our enterprises – by transforming them into cooperatives owned, operated and governed by democratic assemblies composed of all who work in them and all the residents of the communities who are interdependent with them.
Let me conclude by offering a slogan: "The US can do better than corporate capitalism." Let that be an idea and a debate that this renewed movement can engage. Doing so would give an immense gift to the US and the world. It would break through the taboo, finally subjecting capitalism to the critiques and debates it has evaded for far too long – and at far too great a cost to all of us.
• Richard Wolff is participating in a day-long teach-in at the Occupy Wall Street protest in Zuccotti Park, New York on Tuesday 4 October. This article is based on remarks he will be addressing there at 6pm local time
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Show AllWell said. I own every single word that Orwell published (all 1362 pages of his essays, and every single book). If the link that TA provided is the only source of 'proof' that Orwell was an informant then I get why I think TA's comments about Orwell border on straight disinformation.
I don't expect the Orwell fans to read the articles I link to, but for the benefit of those who wish to expand their understanding I will continue to post them.
Sources I provide are going to be left wing. I won't apologize for that.
Orwell's shallow "socialists" and "leftist" trappings served as effective cover for his racist and imperialistic views. Even his so-called criticisms of empire are extremely weak and lack any substance, which cannot be said about his hateful and racist sentiments.
Here is another good article on the subject. I have excerpted a section unmasking his pretensions to socialism, but other parts of the article thoroughly dismantled his anti-imperial pretensions and explain what his involvement in the Spanish Civil War were about.
Excerpt-
Why, other than the urge to play crusader, did Orwell haunt the Leftist presses? Because, he tells us, he was a socialist. Really? The closer I look, the less convincing a socialist he makes. In fact, socialists rank high among his many hates. The only good socialists in any of his works are the dead ones he knew in Catalonia. Live leftists disgust him, especially English ones, as shown by his brilliant attack on Leftists in Road to Wigan Pier.
So once again, let's invite the obvious: Orwell is lying when he calls himself a socialist. And again, once the possibility is admitted, the evidence piles up. Read Orwell's correspondence with poor Victor Gollancz over Wigan Pier and you see the stolid, loyal Gollancz trying desperately to understand why his star writer spent so much time vilifying his fellow socialists in a book commissioned by them. Read that exchange and you'll never buy Orwell's version of himself as simple, honest man. He's the Satanic diva, pushing Gollancz into objections which allow Orwell to play the lone, misunderstood hero.
But if he never was a leftist, why did he call himself one? For Orwell, the red star was protective coloration. It allowed him to smuggle his hates into print, gave them a fine radical gloss, and spared him the cold, clear readings his essays deserved. (Only academics believe that writers want to be understood. Writers want to be misread to their advantage.)
http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7919&IBLOCK_ID=35
I read your sources and they are a fucking joke! You are a fucking joke! You don't have to be an Orwell fan to see this either...
Such a convincing argument.
The source of yours is about as credible as the National Enquirer... the author takes snippets of an essay, while ignoring the mountains of other things Orwell has written, and then attaches his personal interpretations and opinions based in an obvious bias, and hopes that it sticks in the readers mind as 'fact'. This op-ed piece belongs in the National Enquirer. It is a far far stretch to call this opinionated bias of an article 'undisputed historical fact'.
This horrible source that you also provide us forgets to take into account Orwell's personal and political evolution as a HUMAN! Do you think he was somehow made of perfection from day one... no, he evolved and learned just like the rest of the human species. To not take this into account reveals the moronic nature of your author. Maybe if you (and the moronic author of your source) had actually read more of his writings you would have seen how Orwell evolved politically as a writer and journalist. If you had read his essay, "Why I write" you would have seen him explain how his earlier writings -- "Shooting an Elephant" -- (in his own words) "looking back through my work, I see that it is invariably where I lacked a POLITICAL purpose that I wrote lifeless books and was betrayed into purple passages, sentences without meaning, decorative adjectives and humbug generally."
This essay in itself puts to rest the ABSURD opinions that the author writes about in your moronic op-ed piece.
Let me quote a revealing paragraph from Why I Write:
"First I spent five years in an unsuitable profession (the Indian Imperial Police, in Burma), and then I underwent poverty and the sense of failure. This increased my natural hatred of authority and made me for the first time fully aware of the existence of the working classes, and the job in Burma had given me some understanding of Imperialism: but these experiences were not enough to give me an accurate political orientation. Then came Hitler, the Spanish civil war, etc. By the end of 1935 I had still failed to reach a firm decision... The Spanish civil war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, AGAINST totalitarianism and FOR democratic Socialism, as I understand it."
But please do tell us why you believe that your source is credible and why we should believe some pompous assholes opinions - opinions that FAIL to take into account Orwell's political evolution. I mean, that is like saying that everything Bill Maher says on HBO is 'indisputable evidence' to prove a point... it's fucking ludicrous!
And while you are at it... why don't you tell us all why and how you are able to spam the CD comments section all day, 24/7?
I am not attacking Orwell the man.
"What attracted the bourgeoisie to this third-rate writer..."
I guess that represents a pean to Orwell.
Nicely stated BB. As mentioned, my favorite Orwell essay is "To kill an elephant", with "Politics and the English Language" following shortly thereafter. My favorite "book" or longer essay is "Homage to Catalonia".
I am curious to hear your favorites.
"Orwell's work was propaganda to advance the red scare and defend the British Empire and Capitalism."
No, this is incorrect. Orwell wrote a brilliant piece of political satire when he penned Animal Farm. It was the State-capitalist propagandists who LATER hijacked his book to use it to their advantage to scare people. The Red Scare did NOT even exist while he penned this book.
Have you ever read Orwell's preface to Animal Farm? Did you know that four publishers, and the British Ministry of Information refused to publish this book because it was too anti-Russian? Britain was still Russia's ally at the time that Orwell wrote the book in 1943 and was trying to get it published. Nobody in Britain dared to speak out against Stalin in 1943... except him and he was censored because of it.
Quote from Orwell's preface to Animal Farm titled, "The Freedom of the Press (Animal Farm):
"At this moment what is demanded by the prevailing orthodoxy is an uncritical admiration of Soviet Russia. Everyone knows this, nearly everyone acts on it. Any serious criticism of the Soviet régime, any disclosure of facts which the Soviet government would prefer to keep hidden, is next door to unprintable. And this nation-wide conspiracy to flatter our ally takes place, curiously enough, against a background of genuine intellectual tolerance. For though you are not allowed to criticise the Soviet government, at least you are reasonably free to criticise our own. Hardly anyone will print an attack on Stalin, but it is quite safe to attack Churchill, at any rate in books and periodicals. And throughout five years of war, during two or three of which we were fighting for national survival, countless books, pamphlets and articles advocating a compromise peace have been published without interference. More, they have been published without exciting much disapproval. So long as the prestige of the USSR is not involved, the principle of free speech has been reasonably well upheld. There are other forbidden topics, and I shall mention some of them presently, but the prevailing attitude towards the USSR is much the most serious symptom. It is, as it were, spontaneous, and is not due to the action of any pressure group."
--- Orwell was one of the first British journalists to begin speaking out again Stalin and Russian when most people were still for them. And why was Orwell so against the Russian communists? Well, why don't you read "Homage to Catalonia" and see why he hated them so much. In short, it was because he saw, first hand, how Stalin and the Russian Communists stabbed the anarchists, socialists and the working class of Spain in the back during the Spanish Civil War... you now, where a REAL socialist workers movement was actually taking place... and working! Orwell saw it first hand because he was fighting WITH the socialists and anarchists.
"If one gives this matter any thought at all, it soon becomes clear that Orwell's premise is illogical and nonsensical..."
--- This opinion borders on straight disinformation. Why you would defend Stalin and the Russian form of 'communism' is bizarre. THAT is nonsensical, not Orwell, especially since you claim to be for 'working-class solidarity'. Stalin ruined socialism, communism and working-class solidarity just as much the capitalists did. Again, read "Homage to Catalonia." Or start by reading Orwell's essay, "Spilling the Spanish Beans."
http://www.george-orwell.org/Spilling_The_Spanish_Beans/0.html
Please don't blame Orwell for the fact that certain Powers That Be hijacked his incredible book!
Orwell was an informer for the police and a propagandist for the empire. That is a matter of undisputed historical record. Accusing those who point that out as "defending Stalin" is exactly what the ruling class propagandists hope you will do.
Over the years, many who were at one time radical or leftist turn police informer or defenders of the ruling class. This has nothing to do with "Stalin" nor with the quality of Orwell's work over the years, Pointing out that the Red Army defeated fascism is not "defending Stalin" - whatever that means. The battle against "Stalinism" has served merely as clever cover for those wishing to promote reactionary politics and not be called on that.
The premise that is illogical and nonsensical is that Capitalism and the empire are somehow "in the middle" between two dreaded alternatives - fascism and communism, and so the safe and rational and moderate choice. That always operates in support of the ruling class.
I'm sorry but I think your source that enables you to make such a moronic claim about Orwell and allowing yourself to say that it is an 'undisputed historical record' is a joke. Seriously, it is a fucking joke! Your disinformation tactics are a waste of time... This also reminds me why I am spending less time on CD these days because of the horrid disinformation and misinformation that ruins these threads. But do give yourself a pat on the back for being such a moronic douche bag!
It isn't so much a right libertarian idea. It is actually a liberal idea. The liberal belief is that capitalism is great, if it is "properly" regulated. So it leads to the contradiction of liberals defending capitalism to the death, while continuously chanting the mantra that corporatism is not capitalism.
Good posts on this thread, rfloh.
Your argument is what doomed the Russian Revolution - assuming that capitalism will always lead to fascism is the same thing. The hard truth is that some people DO have an advantage over others - whether it's 'good looks' or 'youth' or 'charisma' - there are winners and losers in the lottery of life - that can't be avoided, which is what the communists found out. What we need is equal justice, and equal opportunity along with freedom. Society chooses - intentionally or not - what behaviors or characteristics will be rewarded, and which ones will be shunned (or punished).
We are staring at FASCISM - the power of egregious wealth coupled (inevitably) with the power of the gun. It takes force to subjugate people - we are almost all (save sociopaths) born with an innate sense of justice. (Social conditioning provides limits.) I really object to anyone defining the US system as capitalist - it is overtly fascist by definition - or condemning capitalism. Perhaps, like unions, it is a necessary evil.
Capitalism is the 'normal' state of not just humans, but all other animals as well. Look at nature and you'll see what I mean. Males usually compete for the attention of females - and elaborate decorations have evolved for them to both intimidate other males and attract females. You can't remove millions of years of evolution from the equation - but as reasoning beings, we can construct a sustainable, viable society. The only sensible resolution (that I've figured out) is a meritocracy, with NO 'lesser' class - we are all humans, just overpopulated and under-governed. Our disparate tribes have evolved into competing/warring societies - I don't know how you stop that, since war has been the one constant throughout recorded human history (most animal societies seem to have figured out how to live in competition without killing each other).
It's not the capitalists you have to worry about - it's the SOCIOPATHS. They have been around in every society - we have laws to deal with them usually - but somehow, ever since weapons evolved, sociopaths have managed to get control of every society and bring it to ruin. History is replete with sociopaths - just about every 'great' leader throughout history has been one (or would be considered one if what he did to thousands, or millions, was done to you or me or your sister - murder). Murder one man and you pay with your life - murder millions and call it 'war' and you're a hero. These days we can test for sociopaths - weed them out and treat them. They crop up everywhere - but there aren't a lot of them because they damage a society so badly that usually they aren't tolerated. Imperialism is about sociopaths running amuck in the world - has been since Alexander, at least. It's rampant where inequality is justified by special rights - by gender, class, caste, ethnicity, or some other socially-imposed hierarchy. Easy to spot, therefore should be easy to correct and/or regulate until social morés adapt.
"Capitalism is the 'normal' state of not just humans, but all other animals as well."
LOL. Go study some anthropology, kid, and some zoology as well, then come back and play with the big boys and girls. You're totally out of your depth.
"Corporatism" is merely an expression of Capitalism and an inevitable phase, not some perversion. There has never been "pure Capitalism" - wonderful and glorious - as people like to fantasize about. That is all an illusion.
Let's say "ending corporate personhood" were the solution. Who would do that and how? No ideas can be implemented without having the power to implement ideas, and the working class people have no power. Those in power are never going to voluntarily agree to granting the working class any power.
Ending corporate personhood has to be done as a constitutional amendment because corporate personhood was granted in SCOTUS decisions. I know it is a long shot, but it something I believe that these protesters should push for.
How? What force do you imagine that could do this? Do you believe that you can work within the system to fundamentally change that system?
SCOTUS at one time decided that black people were not human beings. A Civil War changed that, not any constitutional amendment or convention or election. Once the war had been won changes to the Constitution became possible. It cannot happen the other way around.
Do you believe that the people in power today are any more willing to give up their power than the slave owners were to give up theirs?
Well said. If one this is evident from history, it is that power is NEVER ceded voluntarily. As Zinn quotes a slave-holder in A People's History, "But if your course was wholly different - If you distilled nectar from your lips and discoursed sweetest music... do you imagine you could prevail on us to give up a thousand millions of dollars in the value of our slaves, and a thousand millions of dollars more in the depreciation of our lands...?"
finish your education before attempting another use of "inevitable phase" in a political/economic context.
I don't understand what you are saying.
So, where in the real world has capitalism not lead to corporatism, oh educated one?
Nope. Wrong. Corporatism IS capitalism. Corporatism is the IDEAL of capitalism, the ne plus ultra.
"Corporations are only for market forces when the outcome benefits them, and when the market forces turn against them for any reason they are on their way to pay more money to lobbyists to get legistlation changed. They then have the nerve do decry "government as the problem" later if they have to follow even one regulation."
That is what capitalism is. Anything and everything to maximise returns on capital.
"Capitalism is the storekeeper on the corner who is trying to make an honest living by keeping prices low and providing better service than the guy on the corner two blocks away... it's not Wal-Mart going to their lobbyist and sending 20k to quash a labor regulation they don't like. "
No, capitalism is both.
"Capitalism, with proper regulation, can work, however you can't be cult-like and says it works with EVERYTHING... that's faith-based economics. "
Properly regulated capital, is not capitalism; capitalism, and capitalists, opposes anything that limits returns on capital.
"What do we need? We need corporate personhood to end so that we can take the money out of government and put the power of the country back where it was intended, in the hands of the individual voting constituen"
How pray tell, will ending corporate personhood deal with massive wealth inequality? With all the power being super rich confers on a Buffet, Gates, etc?
d23 ----- I am not sure that I agree with all you posit, but I am sure that no democracy can exist until votes are again done on paper ballots and are counted by human beings in a manner designed to be accurate. I do not believe we have had a real capitalist system, and I am not sure one can exist. In any system though, those of bad faith will seek to take advantage of those of good faith. Psychopaths exist, and all systems will be gamed by them. Their existence and controlling their actions is the problem that must be solved. dh
Thank you!
"Here is the key: if we want a mass and deep-rooted social movement of the left to re-emerge and transform the United States, we must welcome the many different streams, needs, desires, goals, energies and enthusiasms that inspire and sustain social movements. Now is the time to invite, welcome and gather them, in all their profusion and confusion."
To my ear, this sounds like the exact opposite of what should happen.
First off, why doom a movement that is being born before our eyes by chaining it to a corpse? The quickest way to make multitudes of people stop listening immediately is to say it has anything to do with " the left ". These people are in the streets, doing something beside talking. In other words, being the polar opposite of a twenty first century liberal.
Secondly, in my opinion this isn't time for diversity. This is the time for Unity. We the People. The 99% who are being slapped around by the 1% bullies. The Working Class that has been used for a profit then thrown aside by the corporate pigs. That's who we all are, black, white, city, country, gay, straight, whatever. Do you have to do some kind of work to make ends meet? OK then, you are a member of the Working Class. That is what will bind us, make us one voice. I would love to hear a member of the corporate propaganda media come up with a convincing arguement to make the Working Class see the Working Class as the problem.
That is how I feel about it. I am a 52 year old Union carpenter who has seen America go from a place where anyone who wanted to work could find a job to a place where the Working Class is the colateral damage of capitalism. Last year I had 2 months worth of work. This year I was lucky. I got 4 months and enough hours to get insurance for my wife and I. I live between Providence, RI and Boston, MA , both of which are being "occupied" and plenty of time on my hands. I've heard enough talk, see you in the streets!
The other systems have already failed, over and over so lets try them again, lol. No sense of history will insure similar results
Nothing is perfect. Europe has its problems. But I am very happy my grandchildren live in Europe and are experiencing a stable and enriched European public education and good free routine health and dental care. We could do a lot better here. It has become dog eat dog, and the weak ones can go to hell.
Systems other than Capitalism have succeeded or we would not be here. Capitalism is the aberration.
Here is one we haven't tried:
Direct democracy.
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Capitalism has also failed. LOL.
*If we believe democracy is the best way to govern our residential communities, then it likewise deserves to govern our workplaces. Democracy at work is a goal that can help build this movement.
An excellent argument, easy to grasp and difficult to refute. .
Morticia: I'm afraid we are as a nation too immature and dumb for real democracy, which is why we find ourselves in this fine pickle.
Correct. Conditions determine consciousness, not the other way around.
Children are most influenced by their parents - so don't blame schools or mass media. After all, who lets children engage with mass media? Who chooses their education? Do parents have ANY responsibilities anymore?
we find ourselves in this pickle because killers have taken the land beneath our feet, and are denying us the right to live unless we pay them...
'fine pickle' was my nickname in high school...
workplace are different from residential communities in that they're not owned in like manner.
Of course they are. Everything is owned. That is Capitalism.
No workplaces - no residential communities. They are not separate, and the owners of the workplace dominate and control communities and government thoroughly at all levels.
not really,Two, but if everything has to be overly simplified for you, make yourself happy.
TA is correct--everything is owned in what is called Western Civilization and the regions enslaved by it. What else do you think the term "squatting" means if not occupying a space without owning it. Even what remains of the "commons" is owned by society "in-common," thus the term. And thus the problem of bringing democracy into the workplace: Owners of the workplace have for decades used the fact of ownership to deny democracy entry to the workplace--such philosophy forms the foundation for anti-unioinism. And another term for you to ponder: Factory Town.
Yes, and any surviving "commons" is rapidly being privatized.
Interesting that the process known as enclosure is examined in British history yet is ignored as a process in US history. True, the mechanisms used were different, but the outcomes were the same for both nation's elite--robbing wealth from those unable/incapable of stopping the process and then using that wealth to enslave.
Good observation.
there is no problem in bringing democracy into the workplace. all you have to do is found businesses that are commonly owned and operated.
We have a few of those out here in communalistic Oregon: Publicly Owned Utilities. Unfortunately, that ownership model is very rare in the US Empire. The result is the need to pass laws forcing businesses to become more democratic and less authoritarian; laws which have proved weak at best and repealed upon the return of reactionaries to governmental control. When examining the history of legislation proposed in the USA to regulate business, one cannot help but notice that such legislation always focused on mollifying the masses enough to keep the peace between them and business. That is until the age of mass propaganda began with the widespread installation of Television in the 1950s and the air-brushing of important aspects of US history from textbooks and an asociated lack of criticaly deep self examination.
Yeah, and in this country, they let those idiots VOTE !!!
What would happen if "Veterans for Peace" went to the demonstration in full uniform and armed to the teeth, like the Tea Partiers?
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"
-- George Washington
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest.
-- From the Declaration of the Continental Congress, July 1775.
...Virtually never are murderers the ordinary, law-abiding people against whom gun bans are aimed. Almost without exception, murderers are extreme aberrants with lifelong histories of crime, substance abuse, psychopathology, mental retardation and/or irrational violence against those around them, as well as other hazardous behavior, e.g., automobile and gun accidents."
-- Don B. Kates, writing on statistical patterns in gun crime
"Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."
-- John F. Kennedy
False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
-- Cesare Beccaria, as quoted by Thomas Jefferson's Commonplace book
No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave.
-- "Political Disquisitions", a British republican tract of 1774-1775
& what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that his people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Col. William S. Smith, 1787
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."
-- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788
Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defence be the *real* object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?
-- Patrick Henry, speech of June 9 1788
"To disarm the people... was the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
-- George Mason, speech of June 14, 1788
[The disarming of citizens] has a double effect, it palsies the hand and brutalizes the mind: a habitual disuse of physical forces totally destroys the moral [force]; and men lose at once the power of protecting themselves, and of discerning the cause of their oppression.
-- Joel Barlow, "Advice to the Privileged Orders", 1792-93
Every Communist must grasp the truth, 'Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.'
-- Mao Tse-tung, 1938, inadvertently endorsing the Second Amendment.
The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.
-- Hitler, April 11 1942
No matter how one approaches the figures, one is forced to the rather startling conclusion that the use of firearms in crime was very much less when there were no controls of any sort and when anyone, convicted criminal or lunatic, could buy any type of firearm without restriction. Half a century of strict controls on pistols has ended, perversely, with a far greater use of this weapon in crime than ever before.
-- Colin Greenwood, in the study "Firearms Control", 1972
Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws."
-- Edward Abbey, "Abbey's Road", 1979
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
---"What would happen if "Veterans for Peace" went to the demonstration in full uniform and armed to the teeth, like the Tea Partiers?"----
more people would know that the quite obscure Veterans for Peace exist and more people would lavish scorn upon them as another group of assholes on the level of the teabaggers.
most of the real left understand that soldiers are part of the proletariate too
What assholes would lavish scorn on our soldier heroes for living the second amendment?