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Greek Protesters Are Better Economists Than the European Authorities

Imagine that in its worst year of our recent recession, the United States government had decided to reduce its federal budget deficit by more than $800bn – cutting spending and raising taxes to meet this goal. Imagine that, as a result of these measures, the economy had worsened and unemployment soared to more than 16%; and then the president pledged another $400bn in spending cuts and tax increases this year. What do you think would be the public reaction?
It would probably be similar to what we are seeing in Greece today, including mass demonstrations and riots – because that is what the Greek government has done. The above numbers are simply adjusted for the relative size of the two economies. Of course, the US government would never dare to do what the Greek government has done: recall that the budget battle in April,which had House Republicans threatening to shut down the government, resulted in spending cuts of just $38bn.
What makes the Greek public even angrier is that their collective punishment is being meted out by foreign powers – the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the IMF. This highlights perhaps the biggest problem of unaccountable, rightwing, supranational institutions. Greece would not be going through this if it were not a member of a currency union. If it had leaders of its own who were stupid enough to massively cut spending and raise taxes during a recession, those government officials would be replaced. And then a new government would do what the vast majority of governments in the world did during the world recession of 2009 – the opposite: that is, deploy an economic stimulus, or what economists call counter-cyclical policies.
And if that required a renegotiation of the public debt, that is what the country would do. This is going to happen even under the European authorities, but first, they are putting the country through years of unnecessary suffering. And they are taking advantage of the situation to privatize public assets at fire sale prices and restructure the Greek state and economy, so that it is more to their liking.
I have maintained for some time that the Greek government has had more bargaining power than it has used, and the past week's events seem to confirm this. Because of the massive opposition to further economic self-destruction – the latest polls show that 80% of Greeks are opposed to making any more concessions to the European authorities – the Greek government has so far been unable to reach an agreement with the IMF for the release of their latest loan tranche on 29 June.
So what happened? The IMF is going to hand over the money anyway, while the European authorities (who are in control of IMF decision-making on matters of Greek economic policy) continue to quarrel over how long they will postpone Greece's inevitable debt restructuring, roll-over, or whatever they choose to call it.
That's because the prospect of a disorderly default – as would be triggered by the IMF simply sticking to its program and not lending Greece the money – is too scary for the European authorities to contemplate. For this reason, the many news articles about the possibility of a financial collapse comparable to what happened after Lehman Brothers went under in 2008 are somewhat exaggerated. The European authorities are not going to let that happen over a measly $17bn loan installment. The events of the past week were all a game of brinkmanship, and the European authorities had to blink because the Greek government, as much as it wanted to, couldn't get approval for the deal.
A democratically accountable Greek government would take a much harder line with the European authorities. For example, they could start with a moratorium on interest payments, which are currently running at 6.6% of GDP. (This is a huge interest rate burden, and the IMF projects it to increase to 8.6% by 2014. For comparison, despite all the noise about the US debt burden, net interest on the US public debt is currently at 1.4% of GDP.) That would release enough funds for a serious stimulus program, while they negotiate with the authorities for the inevitable debt write-down. Of course, the European authorities – who are looking at this from the point of view of their big banks and creditors' interests generally – would be enraged, but at least this would be a reasonable opening bargaining position.
The IMF's latest review of its agreement with Greece suggests that the Euro, for the Greek economy, is still 20-34% overvalued. This makes a recovery through "internal devaluation" – that is, keeping unemployment extremely high and therefore lowering wages to make the economy more internationally competitive – an even more remote possibility than it would otherwise be. But the big problem is that the country's fiscal policy is going in the wrong direction; and of course, they cannot use monetary policy because that is controlled by the ECB.
The European authorities have more than enough money to finance a recovery program in Greece, and to bail out their banks if they don't want them to take the inevitable losses on their loans. There is no excuse for this never-ending punishment of the Greek people.
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Show All"There is no excuse for this never-ending punishment of the Greek people"
1) it's not punishment, it's torture
2) the reason it is happening is because Empire is a sadist
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"Imagine that, as a result of these measures, the economy had worsened and unemployment soared to more than 16%;--"
Our real unemployment rate is now 17%. The U. S. government rate is a fake. The mainstream press is a fake for not giving us the real rate.
Actually our real unemployment rate is more like 30% but that's a secret. Based on the discredited method of counting noses. >^^<
The Greek Protesters have not been 'helped' by Golsman Sachs and the International Loan Shark.
What happens in a national debt crisis is that the owners of the country who all benefited from the borrowing see their property values, their stock values and the value of their national currency (bills stuffed offshore in Antigua) all devalue. They should have bought gold on speculation like everyone else in the world did, but earlier. In any case these people still own the country, so they shift all of the national pain onto the country's poor with almost no jobs or government services such as libraries and fire departments. Let 'em riot! At least it's not hurting their own personal property values much.
I agree, in the US or in Europe, a banker is a banker and a person controlling great wealth and trying to protect its value will behave the same way too. But there has to be one more part of the equation--a bought off politician, controlled by those interests will do their bidding without regard to the countries welfare. Why doesn't Greece throw out its current crop and leave the EU?
I have no knowledge concerning whether DSK is guilty or not of attempted rape of the maid from Guinea in the New York City hotel room, but I do know that he headed the IMF and that alone makes him a criminal guilty of participating in theft from the poor by the rich. That should merit a good long prison sentence.
I sympathize with the Greek people, but their economy is in the unfortunate situation of being so deeply in the red that drastic measures are necessary. Germany and France aren't eager to keep loaning money to the Greeks as long as their debt is so unsustainable there's llittle hope of seeing those Euros ever repaid.
With the alternative being default, and the shitstorm that will unleash on the European and global economy if/when it happens, none of the outcomes looks good.
What flavour koolade was that now?
This is the International Mega Fraudsters at work... again. I say, Greece should default, just like Iceland did!
1. Throw out that crook Papandreou with his cabinet/cronies and prosecute them (and meanwhile sharpen those blades on the guillotines);
2. Organise a national referendum, let's see what the populace wants: austerity/starvation ad infinitum to feed the beasts/bankers or default, go back to the drachma, followed by a year or two hardship and then back to the road to recovery (just like Iceland!); and
3. Throw out the international banksters!
p.s. and this will be the choice facing every nation in the near future. Even here, in Australia
Yes, I'd like to see Greece with an entirely new consensual government - one which would make their own assessment of how much of the Greek debt is the result of financial robbery.
Default on the amount seen to be illegitimate and move on - out of the European Union.
I'd like to see a return by the Greeks to pre-Socratic Greek values - arete - the idea of duty to self. This sounds selfish - me generation. It is not - quite the opposite.
Being true to yourself brings out mankind's true nature, which I maintain is not selfish in the narrow sense.
A tribe, society, or a country could adopt the same idea.
What is best for Greece and its people?
If the answer is subservience to anyone at all, especially to the completely corrupt financial industry - then there really is no hope of natural justice - not for the individual - not for a nation.
Greece - get off your knees. The protesters truly are prescient here, and see much more clearly than the present government, which is merely a clone of every other western pseudo-democracy.
Our turn will come, so this concerns us all, whether we are in Australia, Canada, the US, etc...
Let's all get off our knees -
Manysummits
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My Friends,
I am currently staying at a hotel in Syntagma Square. The majority of the protesters are having a great time during this catastrophe doing drugs, smoking marijuana, and getting drunk. Yesterday they had a rave at night and during the day after they protested against the "capitalist conspiracy" they handed out packets of drugs before the PA System arrived. Half of the protesters are communists who do not believe nor swear allegiance to the democratic constitution of Greece, another quarter (a little less) are public sector workers and another quarter (roughly speaking) are the anarchists. The infamous anarchist who have began their revolution against inhuman globalism by breaking marble slabs on people's long invested property, burning cars on working people, disrupting the normal working man from going on his or her routine to pay the bills and attacking the police form protecting the common citizen.
Listen to me, I am an insider (I can send pictures and videos) THESE PROTESTERS ARE FAR FROM EDUCATED AND BARELY UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS. The majority are (a) junkies, (b) lazy anarchists/communists, (c) welfare state supporters.
I DEEPLY FEEL SORRY FOR THE WORKERS. They are being punished for the faulty decisions of the power-elite. They need to be prosecuted, and set an example for generations to come.
Greece's brain-drain is significant. All of us who are educated have left the country. I wish for the day when these protesters do not take two steps back for ever step we take forward.
Long live democracy, opportunity, and the rule of just law.
"All of us who are educated have left the country."
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Is that like rats leaving a sinking ship?
Or "the eternal smugness of the professional academician"? (Robert Pirsig)
Manysummits
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"Greek Protesters Are Better Economists Than the European Authorities"
And Greenpeace International's Kumi Naidoo is a man:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/video-kumi-naidoo-leads-from-the-front-in-dar/blog/35359?utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GPI%20email%20action%20alert%20-%20Arctic%20Kumi2%20%281%29&utm_content=
Direct action -
Manysummits
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The working class is not responsible for the massive debts incurred by their governments. Where were the budget hawks when banks and financiers got their bailouts on the backs of the workers?
I wish we had the same sort of mass actions in America against our own oligarchs as we are seeing in Greece, France, UK, and across North Africa and the Middle East.
"What makes the Greek public even angrier is that their collective punishment is being meted out by foreign powers"
The title of the article is true, and it's great that the author said it. But regarding the above quote, he should have said "what further creates the mandate for the Greek people to march on and trample the authorities is that..."
He also should have called for revolt at the conclusion of his article. Notice that revolt is so very rarely mentioned. You would think it's taboo.
Revolt is taboo - inviting the security state in to your home.
Revolt is a last resort.
Are we there yet?
Manysummits
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