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Netanyahu Sets Limits for Obama
This public rebuke raises questions about whether Netanyahu will now try to sink Obama’s reelection the way earlier Likud leaders undermined President Jimmy Carter
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Oval Office rebuke of U.S. President Barack Obama – and the Republicans’ immediate attempt to exploit the dispute to peel away Jewish voters – suggest that American politics may be in for a replay of Campaign 1980.
In that election, too, a Likud prime minister, Menachem Begin, set his sights on eliminating what Israeli hardliners regarded as a troublesome Democratic president, Jimmy Carter, and replacing him with a Republican more willing to let Israel expand its settlements on occupied Palestinian territory and launch what turned out to be a bloody invasion of Lebanon.
It was also in Campaign 1980 that the powerful coalition of neoconservatives, the Christian Right and the Republican establishment took shape. Over the ensuing three decades, that coalition has reshaped U.S. politics.
A key touchstone of that coalition has been granting Israel almost carte blanche to stall a comprehensive peace agreement with the Palestinians while expanding settlements on the West Bank to “change the facts on the ground.”
Those settlements, which have been at the center of Likud policies since the 1970s, were the key factor in Netanyahu’s public rejection of Obama’s proposal to use Israel’s 1967 borders as the starting point for peace talks.
Israel “cannot go back to the 1967 lines,” Netanyahu lectured Obama on Friday, “because these lines are indefensible. They don’t take into account certain changes that have taken place on the ground, demographic changes that have taken place over the last 44 years.”
In other words, now that Likud has helped move hundreds of thousands of Israeli settlers onto what was Palestinian territory, the internationally recognized boundaries of Israel are no longer relevant.
Apartheid Proposal
Leading Likud politicians have even suggested that if the Palestinians seek United Nations recognition for their own state in September, Israel might simply annex the West Bank and permanently exclude Palestinians from rights of citizenship.
That plan was laid out in a Thursday op-ed in the New York Times by Danny Danon, a Likud member and deputy speaker of the Israeli Knesset. Entitled “Making the Land of Israel Whole,” it argued that:
“A United Nations vote on Palestinian statehood would give Israel an opportunity to rectify the mistake we made in 1967 by failing to annex all of the West Bank (as we did the eastern half of Jerusalem).
“We could then extend full Israeli jurisdiction to the Jewish communities and uninhabited lands of the West Bank. This would put an end to a legal limbo that has existed for 44 years. …
“Moreover, we would be well within our rights to assert, as we did in Gaza after our disengagement in 2005, that we are no longer responsible for the Palestinian residents of the West Bank, who would continue to live in their own — unannexed — towns.
“These Palestinians would not have the option to become Israeli citizens, therefore averting the threat to the Jewish and democratic status of Israel by a growing Palestinian population.”
Danon made clear that Israel was ready to defy the international community, adding:
“While naysayers will no doubt warn us of the dire consequences and international condemnation that are sure to follow such a move by Israel, this would not be the first time that Israel has made such controversial decisions.”
Danon’s plan, which is in line with what Israeli hardliners have sought for decades, would amount to an apartheid system for Palestinians, much like that used in white-supremacist South Africa, which confined blacks to townships like Soweto and denied them finances and political rights.
Denouncing J Street
Danon also is demanding that the United States, and especially Jewish-Americans, line up behind Likud policies, whatever they are.
In March, Danon held a Knesset hearing that called on the carpet a liberal Jewish-American group, J Street, for criticizing Likud’s expansion of settlements on Palestinian land.
Danon and other hardliners threatened to denounce J Street as anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian, which could cost J Street access to American synagogues and other U.S. Jewish centers.
J Street was created three years ago by American Jews uncomfortable with the defiantly uncritical stands of the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which is expected to give President Obama a chilly welcome when he speaks to the AIPAC convention this weekend.
At the Knesset hearing condemning J Street, Israel’s Likud leadership essentially rejected the idea that Jews outside Israel have the right to dissent.
As the Washington Post reported, “The new model [of J Street’s conditional support for Israel] is considered treasonous by those in Israel who think the American Jewish community’s role should be to back the Israeli government’s decisions.”
Now, with Netanyahu’s public rebuke to Obama, the Likud leadership is showing that deviation from its policies won’t be tolerated in the White House either.
Republican Attacks
Following Netanyahu’s dressing-down of Obama, Republicans moved quickly to drive a wedge between Obama and Jewish voters.
Siding with Netanyahu on the issue of using the 1967 borders as a starting point for talks, GOP leaders accused Obama of “throwing Israel under the bus.” Next week, Republicans on Capitol Hill plan to formally condemn Obama’s position.
So, the political dynamic is now running parallel to the situation in 1980 when Prime Minister Begin was determined to rid Israel of President Carter, who was regarded as too friendly to the Palestinians and too supportive of a Palestinian state.
If Israel now is determined to annex the West Bank (as Likud parliamentarian Danon suggests), Netanyahu’s government will face even a greater need to prevent Obama from gaining a second term.
A defiant Israel will have to place a high priority on replacing Obama with a Republican who would restore the kind of policy leeway that Israel enjoyed under President Ronald Reagan and President George W. Bush.
Much as Begin’s government fretted about Carter winning a second term in 1980, the fear now will be that a second (and final) term for Obama would free him from the political pressures of the influential Jewish-American community and thus allow him to pressure Israel into making concessions for a Mideast peace.
A solution to the second-term problem – as Begin discovered in 1980 – would be to toss Israel’s political support (whether overtly or covertly) to the Republicans and thus ensure that the Democratic president doesn’t get that second term.
The historical evidence regarding Campaign 1980 is that Begin worked behind the scenes with the Reagan campaign to undercut Carter’s reelection hopes, particularly regarding Carter’s frantic efforts to free 52 Americans then held hostage in Iran.
If Obama doesn’t show greater willingness to bow to Israel’s demands, he can probably expect a similar treatment, albeit with a different set circumstances than Carter faced.
Neocon Influence
The neoconservatives who remain very influential in Washington are already lining up behind Netanyahu and against Obama. For instance, the Washington Post, which has become the neocons’ flagship newspaper, blamed Obama and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas for the current diplomatic crisis.
While acknowledging that Obama’s reference to the 1967 borders didn’t deviate much from previous U.S. policy, a Post editorial still faulted the President for stating the position without first gaining Netanyahu’s approval.
“Mr. Netanyahu had not yet signed on, and so Mr. Obama’s decision to confront him with a formal U.S. embrace of the idea, with only a few hours’ warning, ensured a blowup,” the Post’s editors wrote, adding:
“This president likes to portray himself as a pragmatist in foreign policy. In this case, pragmatism would suggest that restoring trust with Israel, rather than courting a feckless Palestinian leader, would be the precondition to any diplomatic success.”
In other words, Obama can expect unrelenting neocon opposition unless he relents on Netanyahu’s hardline approach to the peace process.
Israel’s Likud government and its American supporters don’t seem to care that Israel’s decades-old intransigence on resolving the Palestinian issue has placed the United States in an increasingly difficult position vis a vis the Muslim world.
Instead, they seek to demonize even modest deviations from Likud orthodoxy, as happened with J Street and is now facing President Obama.
Military Spending
They also want to continue a huge and expensive U.S. military, which can be put to use against Israel’s regional enemies, as occurred in the Iraq War in 2003 and may come into play against Iran in the future.
David Stockman, Reagan’s budget director, recently noted in a New York Times op-ed how congressional Republicans and their supposed deficit-hawk budget chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan, backed away from challenging the neocons on military spending even if that required deeper cuts in Medicare and other social programs for Americans.
“Ingratiating himself with the neo-cons, Mr. Ryan has put the $700 billion defense and security budget off limits,” Stockman wrote.
In essence, that’s the deal the neocons and Likud demand in exchange for their support for Republicans, a readiness to prioritize Israel’s security needs and to support Israel’s actions regardless of how offensive they are to the rest of the world.
The deal was sealed during Campaign 1980, making that history suddenly relevant again as Prime Minister Netanyahu appears as alienated from President Obama as Prime Minister Begin was from President Carter.
It’s another reason why it is important to finally get that history right, rather than simply accept the cover-up enforced by Republican and neocon operatives.
The historic cover-up of the early Reagan-Begin collaboration took shape in the months after the Iran-Contra scandal was exposed in the fall of 1986. Republicans and Israeli allies went to great lengths to confine the investigation of secret arms sales to Iran with profits diverted to the Nicaraguan Contra rebels to the narrow time frame of 1985-86.
Aided by timid Democrats unwilling to fight for the truth, the cover-up worked. Iran-Contra did lead to some White House firings, some low-level prosecutions, and a wrist-slap or two over Reagan’s alleged inattention to details, but Official Washington had no stomach for digging down to the uglier parts of the scandal.
Demonizing Dissenters
The few dissenters who wouldn’t accept that tidy conclusion – such as Iran-Contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh – were mocked and marginalized by the major U.S. news media.
For instance, the Washington Post ran an influential article calling Walsh’s consistency in pursuing the scandal “so un-Washington” and judging that he would depart as “a perceived loser.”
However, an accumulating body of evidence suggests that the accepted understanding of Iran-Contra was mistaken, that the conventional view of the scandal was like starting a novel in the middle and assuming you’re reading the opening chapter.
Indeed, it now appears clear that the Iran-Contra Affair began five years earlier in 1980, with what has often been treated as a separate controversy, called the October Surprise mystery, surrounding alleged contacts between Reagan’s presidential campaign and Iran, with Israel playing a key middleman role.
In view of the latest evidence – and the crumbling of the long-running October Surprise cover-up – there appears to have been a single Iran-Contra narrative spanning the entire 12 years of the Reagan and Bush-41 administrations, and representing a much darker story.
It was not simply a tale of Republican electoral skullduggery and treachery, but possibly even more troubling, a story of rogue CIA officers and Israel’s Likud hardliners sabotaging a sitting U.S. president, Jimmy Carter.
Carter’s potential second term presented unacceptable dangers to some powerful interests at home and overseas. Israeli Prime Minister Begin and his Likud Party believed in a “Greater Israel” and were determined not to trade any more land conquered in the Six-Day War of 1967 for promises of peace with Palestinians and other Arabs.
In 1980, Begin was still fuming over Carter’s Camp David pressure on him to surrender the Sinai in exchange for a peace deal with Egypt. So, it made sense that Begin would do what he could to work with Republicans in undercutting Carter’s efforts to gain freedom for 52 American hostages in Iran. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “The CIA/Likud Sinking of Jimmy Carter.”]
Framework for Iran-Contra
The secret relationships, born of the 1980 hostage dealings, created the framework for the Reagan administration’s approval of Israel’s clandestine arms shipments to Iran immediately after Reagan took office in 1981, Israeli arms sales that gradually evolved into the Iran-Contra weapons transfers.
Thus, when Iran-Contra surfaced in fall 1986, the containment of the scandal was not simply to protect Reagan from possible impeachment for violating both the Arms Export Control Act and the congressional ban on military aid to the Nicaraguan Contras, but from exposure of the even darker, earlier phase of the scandal, which would implicate Israel.
In authorizing the first investigation of the Iran-Contra scandal, Reagan’s Attorney General Edwin Meese set the chronological parameters as 1985 and 1986.
Congressional inquiries also focused on those two years, despite indications that the scandal began earlier, such as the mystery of an Israeli-chartered arms flight that was shot down in July 1981 after straying into Soviet air space.
Only late in the Iran-Contra criminal investigation did Walsh and his investigative team begin suspecting that Reagan’s supposed motive for selling arms to Iran in 1985-86 – to gain release of U.S. hostages then held in Lebanon – made no sense because whenever a hostage was freed another was taken captive.
So, Walsh began examining the possibility that the tripartite relationship of Iran-Israel-and-Reagan predated the Lebanese crisis, going back to 1980 and Carter’s futile efforts to win freedom for those 52 U.S. hostages in Iran.
Those hostages weren’t freed until Reagan took office, raising suspicions even then that Republicans had gone behind Carter’s back to strike their own deal with Iran.
That suspicion was one reason why Walsh’s investigators asked former Vice President George H.W. Bush’s national security adviser (and ex- CIA officer) Donald Gregg about his possible role in delaying the release of the hostages in 1980. His denial was judged deceptive by an FBI polygrapher.
People on High
Nicholas Veliotes, Reagan’s assistant secretary of state for the Middle East, described his discovery of the earlier Iran-Israel-Republican connections after the Israeli plane went down in the Soviet Union in 1981.
“It was clear to me after my conversations with people on high that indeed we had agreed that the Israelis could transship to Iran some American-origin military equipment,” Veliotes said in an interview with PBS Frontline.
In checking out the Israeli flight, Veliotes came to believe that the Reagan camp’s dealings with Iran dated back to before the 1980 election.
“It seems to have started in earnest in the period probably prior to the election of 1980, as the Israelis had identified who would become the new players in the national security area in the Reagan administration,” Veliotes said. “And I understand some contacts were made at that time.”
Though some two dozen witnesses – including senior Iranian officials and a wide range of other international players – have expanded on Veliotes’s discovery, the pressure became overpowering in the final years of George H.W. Bush’s presidency not to accept the obvious conclusions. [For details of the evidence, see Robert Parry’s Secrecy & Privilege.]
It was easier for all involved – surely the Republicans but also the Democrats and much of the Washington press corps – to discredit the corroborated 1980 allegations. Taking the lead was the neoconservative New Republic.
In fall 1991, as Congress was deliberating whether to conduct a full investigation of the October Surprise issue, Steven Emerson, a journalist with close ties to Likud, produced a cover story for The New Republic claiming to prove the allegations were a “myth.”
Newsweek published a matching cover story also attacking the October Surprise allegations. The article, I was told, had been ordered up by executive editor Maynard Parker who was known inside Newsweek as a close ally of the CIA and an admirer of prominent neocon Elliott Abrams.
The two articles were influential in shaping Washington’s conventional wisdom, but they were both based on a misreading of attendance documents at a London historical conference which Reagan’s campaign director William Casey had gone to in July 1980.
The two publications put Casey at the conference on one key date – thus supposedly proving he could not have attended an alleged Madrid meeting with Iranian emissaries. However, after the two stories appeared, follow-up interviews with conference participants, including historian Robert Dallek, conclusively showed that Casey didn’t arrive at the conference until later.
Veteran journalist Craig Unger, who had worked on the Newsweek cover story, said the magazine knew the Casey alibi was bogus but still used it. “It was the most dishonest thing that I’ve been through in my life in journalism,” Unger later told me.
However, even though the Newsweek and New Republic stories had themselves been debunked, that didn’t stop other neoconservative publications, like the Wall Street Journal, from ladling out ridicule on anyone who dared take the October Surprise case seriously.
Emerson also was a close friend of Michael Zeldin, the deputy chief counsel for the House task force that investigated the October Surprise issue in 1992.
Though the task force had to jettison Emerson’s bogus Casey alibi, House investigators told me Emerson frequently visited the task force’s offices and advised Zeldin and others how to read the October Surprise evidence.
Subsequent examinations of Emerson’s peculiar brand of journalism (which invariably toed the Likud line and often demonized Muslims) revealed that Emerson had financial ties to right-wing funders such as Richard Mellon Scaife and had hosted right-wing Israeli intelligence commander Yigal Carmon when Carmon came to Washington to lobby against Middle East peace talks.
In 1999, a study of Emerson’s history by John F. Sugg for Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting’s magazine “Extra!” quoted an Associated Press reporter who had worked with Emerson on a project as saying of Emerson and Carmon: “I have no doubt these guys are working together.”
The Jerusalem Post reported that Emerson has “close ties to Israeli intelligence.” And “Victor Ostrovsky, who defected from Israel’s Mossad intelligence agency and has written books disclosing its secrets, calls Emerson ‘the horn’ — because he trumpets Mossad claims,” Sugg reported.
Shying Away
Yet, the way Washington was working by the end of the 12-year Reagan-Bush-41 era, there was little interest in getting to the bottom of a difficult national security scandal.
The House task force simply applied some fantastical logic, such as claiming that because someone wrote down Casey’s home phone number on another key date that proved he was at home, to conclude nothing had happened.
Between the House task force’s finding of “no credible evidence” and the subsequent ridicule heaped on the allegations by major U.S. news outlets, the October Surprise case was cast aside as a “conspiracy theory.”
However, subsequent disclosures revealed that a flood of new evidence incriminating the Republicans arrived at the House task force in its final weeks, in December 1992, so much so that chief counsel Lawrence Barcella said he recommended that task force chairman, Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana, extend the investigation for several months.
However, Barcella said Hamilton refused, citing procedural difficulties. Instead, the incriminating evidence was simply kept from other task force members, and the investigation was shut down with a finding of Republican (and Israeli) innocence.
It even appears that a late-arriving report from the Russian government about its own intelligence on the case – corroborating allegations of a Republican-Iranian deal – was not shown to Hamilton, the chairman.
When questioned in 2010, Hamilton told me he had no recollection of ever seeing the Russian report (though it was addressed to him) and Barcella added that he didn’t “recall whether I showed [Hamilton] the Russian report or not.” [See Consortiumnews.com’s “Key October Surprise Evidence Hidden.”]
(Barcella described these events to me in a series of contentious e-mails in the months before his death from cancer on Nov. 4, 2010.)
According to other interviews in 2010, dissent within the House task force — over some of the irrational arguments being used to clear the Republicans — was suppressed by Hamilton and Barcella. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “The Tricky October Surprise Report.”]
In other words, Official Washington preferred to sweep this unpleasant scandal under the rug rather than confront the facts and their troubling implications.
Yet, with another angry Likud prime minister taking aim at the second term of another Democratic president, who is perceived as pushing too hard for a Palestinian state, it might finally be time for this important history to be examined honestly and presented clearly to the American people.
If Israel feels that it is entitled to interfere with the U.S. political process to the degree of even undermining sitting American presidents, it may be time for Obama to sit Netanyahu down and give him a lecture.
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Show AllWhen Liberal newspapers embrace fascist corporatism, illegal wars and fascist Zionism, like the Washington Post, they of course are called "Neo Cons", "liberal warhawks". At what point do they become Fascists???? if their capitulation amounts to an embrace of CORPORATE AND MILITARY FASCISM????
Nit-wit-yahoo is just a loud mouth self aggrandizing Likud brat -- A classic sociopath in a suit, and another reason why israel has lost its moral standing in the eyes of the world.
I appreciate that Parry's work during the Iran-Contra era is a major part of his career, so this latest turn in the Amerikan-Israeli kabuki theater really pushed his buttons.
But Parry goes to great length, and much trouble, to discuss an entirely rigid and predictable dynamic.
Of course Israel's leaders will storm about in high dudgeon and chew the scenery at Obama's insufficiently obsequious mealy-mouthed pieties, clichés, and mendacious hypocrisy.
Of course the Republican Party will seize upon this opportunity to further woo and captivate Zionist Israel's notoriously uncritical Amerikan supporters.
Of course Team Obama and the Democrats won't hold fast, stiffen their resolve, or maintain a hard line toward Israel's direct or AIPAC-mediated lobbying. Instead, the Democrats and Republicans will race to top each other in reassuring Zionist Israel supporters and sympathizers that they are the Best and Truest Friends of Israel.
Israel is every bit the shrewd and manipulative hussy who will by turns stamp her foot, wrinkle her nose, coquettishly flutter her eyelashes, and wiggle her rear while the haplessly manipulated rivals duke it out in the parking lot to settle which one gets to take her to the dance.
It's a foregone conclusion that she's GOING to the dance, with a nice new dress, a splendid corsage, and all the other accoutrements her triumphant escort can think of to assure her that he's her One True Love, and will never, ever let her down.
Well said. I'd also suggest that after the dance the princess will be offended that her escort to the dance would expect anything more from her than a light kiss on the cheek. This can't end well.
The escort will also wake up the next morning with a nasty case of crabs. He'd also get a nice syphilis chancre as well, were his brain not already addled with spirochetes.
Always great commentary, OS.
Speaking of Kabuki Theater, Parry shows the all-too-familiar media naïveté about Palestinian politics in his subtitle, “This public rebuke raises questions about whether Netanyahu will now try to sink Obama’s reelection the way earlier Likud leaders undermined President Jimmy Carter”
Huh? Does he really not realize that this tortured “peace process” is a sixty-year old tango with predetermined steps and script? The Knesset, the US Congress and the POTUS have all worn the pattern into a well-rutted dance floor. The US exudes noble rhetoric about being an honest broker and then always finds the slightest excuse to renege on its hollow commitments---always---for instance when a child throws a stone at the fence or democracy goes the wrong way. It reliably continues to fund the occupation, squatter outposts, war crimes, puppet tyrants, etc. for the most racist state on the planet, determined to expand to its pre-Babylonian borders (ersatz Eretz Israel).
Carter was the last president with a modicum of integrity. Obama has none...zero...nada, period. He is merely dutifully performing rote drama. In the end, on orders from his AIPAC banksters, he will reliably make matters worse. From Egypt to Syria, Libya, Iraq, Pakistan, Bahrain, Yemen, and Iran, we are determined to march to Armageddon.
Hope and change indeed! What a disgrace.
"Danon also is demanding that the United States, and especially Jewish-Americans, line up behind Likud policies, whatever they are."
Thus does the Knesset's Deputy Speaker assert that Jewish Americans pledge their allegiance to a political party of a foreign state, one with which the US has NO formal treaty obligations, which killed dozens of US sailors aboard a navy vessel in 1967, and which has been caught committing acts of espionage the US - one openly advocating theft of Arab Land and the ethnic cleansing of that land. And we get .... what, exactly, from our alliance with this increasingly satanic state?
Conservatives rule by fear. Fear can't guarantee lasting peace. Only mutual trust can.
To Palestinians, Israel is another "Arab Spring" tyrant.
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/thread/4739117.aspx
Are we there yet? The 2012 presidential election, that is? Seems it's time for the venerable stable of "Progressives for Obama" like Robert Parry to tune up once again their "lesser evil" campaign to depict Obama as somehow the peace-maker they imagine him to be rather than the warlord he has proven himself to be. I'm not sure about the role of Israel in ridding the U.S. of a Democratic president in 1980; I'm more aware of the manipulation of the "hostage crisis" with Iran to produce that effect. But the painting of Obama as a "victim" in 2012 as Carter was in 1980 may serve well enough the agenda of the Ps for O in making O seem the promoter of peace being ganged up on by Israel and the Republicans. Without the construction of such faux-conspiracies against one who speaks progressively and acts regressively. how are they going to salvage the continued support of any Americans just a big to the left of Newt Gingrich?
Very insightful. You perceive the tangled web they weave. It's becoming rather transparent, isn't it, like morning dew on a spider's web.
A bit more than a year out from elections, Obama is trotting out his '08 campaign persona, the peace- and hope-monger, offering the sheep protection from the cartoonish villains of the Reichwing, and promising again to restore the sixty-year old Middle East peace process.
But he's really only offering the same old rancid snake oil. Don't believe it, Charlie Brown. Lesser-evilism only begets a greater evil in sheep's clothing. Either vote for a thrid party, don't vote at all, or vote for the fascist party ... if only to accelerate the demise of empire. Never again vote for the false prophet, the great deceiver.
" Never again vote for the false prophet, the great deceiver."
I agree. But voting Republican doesn't necessarily accelerate anything since he's working for that side anyway. At least by voting republican you send a message that we're on to the games and we won't be fooled any longer by either party.
If we can hold all of them to just four year terms no one party gains that much power. And I think that's why the system was set up this way to begin with. Keep them all off balance. Public service should not be seen as a profession or a gateway to lobbying power.
"At least by voting republican you send a message that we're on to the games and we won't be fooled any longer by either party."
We'll feel so good that we sent that message while eating rotten dog food in our gulags knowing our daughters get raped by CEO's? Koch s u ckr's will say anything, but conservatives are not known for being too bright.
"At least by voting republican you send a message that we're on to the games ". I do not understand how voting republican will send that message at all. It will tend to send the message that you support republicans.
How about voting for an independent or at least writing in someone you admire?
Why wait to vote? How about organizing together to build an alternative to the corporate-owned parties? Or is that too hard for today's Americans? Not for them the inconvenience of doing what people in Tunisia, Egypt, Greece, and now Spain are doing. Why should they? Isn't it for "the politcians" to offer them the political products they crave? And for the American people to complain, whine, invent conspiracies, and seek villains if they don't? Anything but get off their asses and organize together.
"We're on to their games". What games? Most Americans support Israel. There is a strong lobby which focuses its efforts on Israel and pressures American politicians. Both Democrats and Republicans share a consensus that the US should give unswerving support to Israel. Obama spoke to the most important part of that lobby, AIPAC. His speech was public. Where is the "game" you're "on to".? It's all out in the open: the US supports Israel, and gives it a major role in shaping US policy toward the Middle East. What's new?
"The Great Deceiver"? Please. The main problem with Obama is he's too pragmatic, too ready to compromise, too careful. People convinced themselves they were voting for a major change in American politics in 2008. They were: they elected the first African American to the presidency. He also happens to be an inspiring orator at times, and a highly intelligent man. That was also a big change from what went before. But he never pretended he was a messiah, and he is not a Deceiver.He is a leftish centrist, ready at any time to drop that "leftish" stuff to get a deal with the crazies that the American people sent to represent them in the House. How anyone can use your style of rhetoric about this guy is beyond me.
Hmmm
Instead of constantly echoing the Israeli party line it would be wonderful if OUR US media (clearly zionist) would stand up for AMERICA! And the next time a foreign leader tries to dictate policy to our President would should hand him his hat and kick his *ass right back to were he came from. Oh and of course we would then cut them off from any and all aid of any kind. He wants to commit genocide? fine he can do it with someone else's money.
The American media are no more "zionist" than the American people. The polls consitently show strong support among Americans for Israel. There's no plot, no secret conspiracy. it's all out in the open. I wish Americans would begin to look upon Israel as one more foerign country, with its own interests and goals. But they don't. They see it as the "Holy Land", or a frontline US base in a hostile part of the world, or a brave little people like the pioneers who settled America (and slaughtered the previous inhabitants), or as the heirs of the Holocaust, confronting America with its guilt for not using its military might to interfere with the killing. Netanyahu, I'm quite sure, would be very content with a situation where the Palestinians were treated like the American Indians were until quite recently. After all, it worked for the US for hundreds of years.
i would like someone to address the issue of how sovereign a country can be that depends so heavily on another country's support. that question could be posed from either direction - isreal's dependency or the u.s.'s. it actually does seem to resemble a couple's codependant relationship, with neither party willing or able to come to grips with this disfunctionality. for a small "helpless" country to frame the discussion and set the terms for the kind and amount of assistance to be delivered by the other would be unusual unless there is a deeper underlying assumption - that two sovereign states are actully one.
the sad truth, which will never find the light of day in any "official" discussion of middle east is that it is not just about isreal and palestine. the gluttenous indulgence of empire to write or rewrite history and the rules of law and justice is simply the perrogative of the powerful - in this case mostly the u.s., but also it's middle eastern surrogate state.
Who would have thought US tax dollars would support the existence of an apartheid theocracy for decades. It's unreal when you consider how they thumb their noses at us. They lied and covered up Dimona: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/reveal/index.html
I remember Rachel Corrie: http://www.rachelcorrie.org/
And I remember Furkan Dogan: http://ziomania.com/articles2010/06/American%20Reportedly%20Among%20Dead%20Flotilla%20Activists.htm
Why we send a cent in aid to Israel is beyond me.
Israel is an apartheid society. But then so was the US. Israel was founded in 1948; Jim Crow was alive and well at that time. America's policy on Israel is in part based on the religious feelings millions of Americans have for the land where it is located. This applies not only to Jews, but to many Christians as well. There is nothing surprisng about this -- only a truly secular country, which America is not, could take a rational view of Israel as a foreign country with its own interests and policies, which may or may not accord with those of the US. Both the irrational admiration and support Israel arouses among Americans, and the equally irrational hatred it arouses among a smaller number of Americans, are contrary to US interests, and even to those of Israel, which will eventually have to accept that it is one Middle Eastern country among many, not an advance post of "Western" civilization in an uncivilized part of the world.
An excellent question. I would only modify it to characterize Israel as a nuclear-armed banker oligarchy disguised as a theocracy disguised as a democracy.
Like all financial power, it tends to act as a tyrant. But with the internet, the oligarchy's control over information is slipping. Their voter based is increasingly identified as irrational religious extremists. The public is finding out more and more about their history. When a critical mass of the population learns the facts, the situation could quickly flip. And that's what they're afraid will happen with all this "Arab spring" stuff.
Israel has become an integral part of the American imagination, whether because of its importance as a US base and ally in the Middle East, its history as a fellow settler society, its location in the same place that Jesus lived, and the suffering of the Jewish people in the Holocaust, which arouses American compassion and guilt.
Americans do not see Israel as just another foreign country with its own interests and goals, but as American frontier fort, besieged by the "Injuns" of today (the Arabs), populated by brave people who need and deserve American help. As long as that perception persists, the US will be unable to see Israel as just another actor on the world stage.
'Netanyahu Sets Limits for Obama
This public rebuke raises questions about whether Netanyahu will now try to sink Obama’s reelection the way earlier Likud leaders undermined President Jimmy Carter"
So now Obama wants to paint himself as another Carter. I thought he idolized Reagan. This whole event was scripted from the beginning. Obama doesn't want peace neither does BiBi. If he has to I am betting he'll assasinate Gaddafi to gain re-election. Not too much different from what goes on in Israeli politics.
The whole thing about the 1967 borders not being defensible...hell no they are not defensible. Jewish settlement has expanded so much I am betting they can't even be determined any longer. And if you think those settlers are just going to walk away or barter other lands in return I've got a bridge I can sell you.
First and foremost Palestine needs to be internationally acknowledged as a sovereign state. Otherwise Israel and the US will continue to play with them like a cat does a mouse.
His marketers need to make up their minds is he the reincarnation of Reagan or Carter? The only thing he has in common Martin Luther King is his skin color.
"This whole event was scripted from the beginning". More conspiratorial craziness. Isn't it possible that Obama's own explanation in his speech to AIPAC that his words were misinterpreted is more likely than a "scripted" (and rehearsed?) exchange?
Obama didn't mean to raise hackles by referring to the 1967 borders. Why would he want to do that? He forgot, though, that the Israel lobby is ready to seize upon any slight deviation from their policy and make a stink about it. They do that because they are desperately anxious about any possibility that American protection and support for Israel might be weakened. So they need constant reassurance that everything is as it was. Obama gave it to them.
I'll say this one more time, "'Washington DC is occupied Israeli territory." Ever since Kennedy was assinated for trying to make a stand against Israel. The Israeli influence has grown by leaps and bounds to what it is today. Address this and all other matters will fall into place.
That's right. Probably for misdirection, most economists and financial analysts try to assert that China is America's banker. Wrong. Israel is, and it has its blood-money-funnel and tentacles firmly attached to Wall Street banksters and the Criminal Reserve Bank, using those levers to control Congress with near absolute authority. Witness the reliable 427-8 votes in the House and 98-2 votes in the Senate whenever Israeli interests are involved, especially with respect to Middle East wars, military aid, and military funding, now 60% of the US budget. It's such a blatantly obvious parasitic stranglehold imposed through AIPAC that nobody dares talk about it openly for fear of reprisal and/or the bloody club of anti-Semitism.
It's odd, after going through all the twisted ways that Israel, the CIA, and Mossad so adroitly manipulate US policy, covertly and overtly, Parry's last paragraph is ridiculously nonsensical. "If Israel feels that it is entitled to interfere with the U.S. political process to the degree of even undermining sitting American presidents, it may be time for Obama to sit Netanyahu down and give him a lecture." In fact, his entire article makes it quite clear that Israel is giving the lectures, and the idea of Obama changing anything at this point, or challenging his Israeli master contributors, based on moral principle is tragically laughable.
Rahm Emanuel's father, a former Zionist member of Israeli terrorist group, Irgun, clarified this in an unguarded moment when asked about Rahm's position as O's chief of staff :
"“Obviously he’ll influence the president to be pro-Israel. Why wouldn’t he? What is he, an Arab? He’s not going to be mopping floors at the White House,”
What a refreshingly honest if disgusting expression of Zionist racism and shrewd power politics. It is these perverse Neocons who now run the US government, and Obama is an active collaborator as the new Vichy president. This is something poeple must see clearly before we can make any sense of the forces driviing American toward the cliff --- and Israel toward inevitable self-immolation.
Israel is not America's banker. It is a small country with limited resources. That's why it needs US aid money, and that's why the alliance with the US is absolutely fundamental to its policies.
Israeli influence on the US is exercised via sections of the Jewish community, sections of the Christian community ("Christian Zionists"), and more generally through an identification of Israel with America's past as a settler society that seized territory from indigenous inhabitants; through American guilt and compassion about the Holocaust, and the perceived American need for an absolutely reliable ally in the Middle East.
Israel, despite its bluster, is a client of the US, not the other way around.
thank you '76-water' for pointing the search light into a new direction, a darkened corner i hadn't noticed.. i had pretty much settled on a white supremist motive behind kennedy's assassination. i'm not going to give up my own pet theory that the mysterious minor underworld figure, dying of cancer, experienced such a sudden jolt of patriotic fervor that...well, we all know how that story ends.
also, i found 'obedient servant' and Doug Terpstra's post especiaslly intriguing and had to find out more about the idea that israel not china bankrolls this warrior nation. i've spent a few minutes peering into this newly exposed corner. after peeping into israeli commercial banking practices, i inserted a goldman sachs/bank leumi key which opened another closet door. indeed, '76-water' matters fall into place!
i'm sure glad i came to this dance!
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Likud policies privatized [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Leumi ] Bank Leumi, בנק לאומי, lit. National Bank incorporated in London in 1899 as the financial instrument of the Zionist Organization.
Today, Bank Leumi is Israel's leading commercial bank, with $85 billion in assets and a presence in USA, Switzerland, UK and 18 other countries (as of 2008). Bank Leumi is mainly in private hands, with the government as the largest single shareholder, with 14.8% of the stock (as of June 2006). The other major shareholders are Shlomo Eliyahu and Branea Invest, which each hold 10% of the stock, constituting the control core of the bank. 60% of the bank's stocks are held by the public and traded on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange.
*These manipulations, or adjustments of the stock prices, by artificially creating demand, seemed to the other banks like a good way of procuring capital from the public, and they slowly adopted the practice as well.
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I oppose Israeli actions and policies re: the Palestinians, But the US public has always supported Israel, making it politically wise for politicians to support it too. Americans identify with a settler state surrounded by hostile indigenous people. It reminds them of their own history. Add to that the way the pro-Israelis use the Holocaust, the story of Jesus, and fear of Islam to mobilize support for Israel, it's no wonder that even the Leader of the Free World has to kowtow to them.
If you have to kowtow to anyone then you are not free let alone a LEADER of the "Free" World.
Now, as far as USA Americans identifying themselves with Israeli--and vice versa-- as "settler" nations it becomes critical to call them to account on this perception. People of conscience whether in the USA or Israel must insist on this in their own countries. The establishment of the USA was on the very bones of the "hostile" indigenous people--who would NOT be hostile if your lands and lives were being stolen?-- and the kidnapping and enslavement of black folks from a distant continent. This qualifies the USA as not so much as the neutral designation of a "settler" nation but a MURDEROUS one, a criminal illegal entity and I suspect that an Israeli of conscience would view the Nakba of the Palestinians in the same light.
Your analysis sheds light on Israeli support of the former South African Apartheid regime to the point of wanting them to acquire nuclear bombs. And maybe even more so as Israel views herself surrounded by hostile Arabs, the Afrikkaner saw themselves surrounded by hostile black people or Africans. Interestingly, South Africa may well point to a solution to the I/P conflict in becoming one state rather than two. And of course, American corporations did not mind doing business with South Africa . As for the USA , crass materialist nation, a complete re-invention of her is in order to rectify the crimes of its history.
Obama Sinks Own Re-Election Hopes!
With 3 undeclared wars going on, no end in sight, and no clearly defined objective, to even be at war. With US unemployment at depression era records, and no jobs growth. Obama does not need Netanyahu to sink his re-election chances.
Obama sinks his own re-election hopes, by not living up to the hope and change that everyone expected. Obama has let his voting base down, like a third term of George Bush. With the continued police state we live in the US, when will the people say enough is enough.
Obama must answer to the powers that be, the powers that be is actually the state of Israel. Think about it, how else could Netanyahu set limits for Obama, it's as if he can pull rank, and tell the subservient token Obama, to "Stand Down," because he secretly sets the US policy.
Obama's chances of reelection are excellent, as testified by the rush for the exits by potential Republican candidates (Huckabee) and the silence from others (Palin).
Israel has been setting American policy on the Middle East for years now. There's no secret -- it's right out in the open. And it seems most Americans are content with that situation.
Israel has 200+ spare unlawful nukes.
I'm sure they can spare one for a proper black ops 'booga-booga' to get people to line up behind 'Da Presnit' like the sheeple did after 9/11...
Benjamin Netanyahu’s chutzpah has crossed the line into hubrus.
The Nit-wit is a classic sociopath in a suit. His loud mouth self aggrandizing, and his mad dog bitting of the hand that feeds him should never be dignified with the word "chutzpah".
It should be known that the implications of Mr Parry's analysis [even though basically factual] is that we need to support Obama & the Dems or else the Repugs & Likud will take over & run US Mid East foreign policy - to maintain the status quo [or worse]... AS IF this isn't / wouldn't be true for Obama & the Dims also!!
American presidents that make the mistake of of suggesting Israel must make even minor concessions for peace always end up down on their knees begging forgiveness within days of their speech. The democratic party has some of the most vicious and fanatic zionists on earth and they have and will humiliate their own president in order to show that Israel counts more for them than the United States. It is the power of the Israeli lobby in the states that has prevented peace in the middle east and given the green light to the worst crimes of Israel.
Just as George W. Bush had his very own Poodle, it would seem that Netanyahu has a whole litter of them, republicans and democrats alike!
I was pleased to see Netanyahu stand up to Husein's idiotic ideas of another countries security needs.
It's "President Obama" to you, dave.And to everyone else. He won fair and square. He can't help what his parents named him, any more than you can.
Ummm... Actually, when you are paying for something you usually have some say. Your position is ridiculous. That the US should continue to send billions to Israel and keep its mouth shut. That's why I feel a special need to criticize Israel's policies of apartheid and slow genocide. It is fury that my hard earned tax dollars are contributing to them.
So who isn't? There has been a "permanent government" pulling the strings for quite some time. But usually in diplomatic circles contempt for the front men and women is not spewed out in public. Netanyahu is a particularly nasty piece of work.
Looking through the comments spewed onto this page, I can see pretty clearly what's wrong with American politics. Almost no reasonable comments, but lots of conspiratorial fantasies, just-short-of-antisemitic ranting, hateful words to describe the President and others, and a general absence of any reasonable, viable suggestions as to how the situation could be improved. Above all, a consumer's view of political life, the whining of people who can't seem to find the products they want on the political shelves.
Get off your asses and do something, people. If democracy is dying in America, don't whine about it, resuscitate it with political activism. Negative, impotent sputtering ain't the answer, that's for sure.
"the Washington Post, which has become the neocons’ flagship newspaper, blamed Obama and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas for the current diplomatic crisis.". Such reporting is idiotically simplistic and irresponsible in the extreme.
There has been a diplomatic crisis since 1948, or if you wish, at least, 1967. The Peace Process was officially dubbed so in the 1970s, 40 years ago, and has dragged on and on with no progress while encroachments on Palestinian land and rights continue. This has little to do with the 2 individuals named.
Obama was not born in 1948, was 6 years old in 1967, and was 10 years old in 1971. Abbas was 13 in 1948, and 32 in 1967. The reasons for the impasse go much deeper.
Usually the one who pays the allowance is the one who sets the limits.
Israel is like a horrible, spoiled teenager who thinks that no rules apply to him. He blames his behavior on a collection of hurts. These hurts are recorded, cherished, nurtured, recited and always referred to in great detail whenever he is called onto the carpet. He has no understanding of or empathy for anyone else. He is completely self-centered. He also plays with guns.
I say, no allowance for him until he learns to follow the rules of civilized behavior and stop bullying.
Unfortunately, the allowance giver is also a sociopath and a law-breaker himself.