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The Bin Laden Dividend
Numerous people have argued that one potential benefit from the death of Osama bin Laden is that it will enable the U.S. Government to diminish its war commitments in that part of the world and finally arrest the steady erosion of civil liberties perpetrated in the name of the War on Terror (as though any of that is the government's goal). By contrast, I've argued from the start that the bin Laden killing is likely to change nothing of any significance, except that -- if anything -- the resulting nationalistic pride, the vicarious sensations of power and strength, the substantial political benefits for the President, and the renewed faith in military force would be more likely to intensify rather than arrest these trends. But that was definitely a minority opinion.
As but one example, this person (cheered on by Democratic Party commentators) -- aside from falsely attributing to me numerous statements I never made, and thereafter refusing to post my response in the comment section -- chided me for failing to realize that "Bin Laden's death also makes things like closing the gulag at Guantanamo Bay seem likelier and more possible" and that it also "marks what could be the beginning of the end of many of the evils that Glenn Greenwald has consistently written about over the past decade, the opportunity to reassert the principles he determinedly wants to defend." Andrew Sullivan argued that, in the wake of the bin Laden killing, "Obama will have the leverage to shift strategy drastically [in Afghanistan] in the coming year" and that the "average American" will conclude that "it is time to leave. With our heads high. And justice done." Numerous commenters and others have similarly insisted that bin Laden's death will spawn reversals in America's War on Terror policies over the last decade.
It's still far too early to know with any certainty what the outcome will be. There's an inertia to our policies that is not going to vanish overnight. Still, it's worth considering the numerous events that have occurred since bin Laden's killing, as I think it gives at least some sense of the direction in which we'll head:
The House Armed Services Committee is expected to take up a defense authorization bill on Wednesday that includes a new authorization for the government to use military force in the war on terrorism. . . .
The provision states that Congress "affirms" that "the United States is engaged in an armed conflict with Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and associated forces," and that the president is authorized to use military force -- including detention without trial -- of members and substantial supporters of those forces.
That language, which would codify into federal law a definition of the enemy that the Obama administration has adopted in defending against lawsuits filed by Guantánamo Bay detainees, would supplant the existing military force authorization that Congress passed overwhelmingly on Sept. 14, 2001. It instead named the enemy as the perpetrators of the Sept. 11 attacks.
Critics of [the] provision have reacted with alarm to what they see as an effort to entrench in a federal statute unambiguous authority for the executive branch to wage war against terrorists who are deemed associates of Al Qaeda but who lack a clear tie to the Sept. 11 attacks.
In a joint letter to Congress, about two dozen groups -- including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights -- contended that the proposal amounted to an open-ended grant of authority to the executive branch, legitimizing an unending war from Yemen to Somalia and beyond.
"This monumental legislation -- with a large-scale and practically irrevocable delegation of war power from Congress to the president -- could commit the United States to a worldwide war without clear enemies, without any geographical boundaries" and "without any boundary relating to time or specific objective to be achieved," the letter warned.
Human Rights First, yesterday:
Associated Press, this morning:
Associated Press, last Tuesday:
The article noted: "At least one civilian died when the missiles damaged the restaurant and a nearby home."
Associated Press, this morning:
The article noted: "A neighbor, who goes by the name of Ayatullah, says the girl was 12 years old."
Inside the Pentagon, however, officials make the case that rather than using Bin Laden’s death as a justification for withdrawal, the United States should continue the current strategy in Afghanistan to secure additional gains and to further pressure the Taliban to come to the bargaining table for negotiations on political reconciliation.
The Los Angeles Times, Friday:
We haven't been doing all of these things -- or any of them -- because of Osama bin Laden. We've been doing this because it generates massive benefits for the country's most powerful political and economic factions, and that hasn't changed. Bin Laden was but one of the pretexts to justify it all. And with him gone (but definitely not forgotten), multiple other pretexts will quickly be created to take his place. Do the events since his killing leave any real doubt about that? As but one example, Marc Ambinder -- in a hagiographic love letter to the secretive, glorious Joint Special Operations Command that oversaw the bin Laden killing -- reveals as though it's the most natural thing in the world:
JSOC has fought a silent but successful proxy war against Iran’s Revolutionary Guards -- even, National Journal has learned, engaging directly with its soldiers in at least three countries. It has broken up nuclear-proliferation rings. JSOC has developed contingency plans to safeguard Pakistan’s nuclear weapons in the event of a coup in that nation. Its intelligence unit helps Colombian commandos dismantle lucrative drug rings that finance Hezbollah operations around the world. It has provided intelligence that has helped to break up domestic terrorism rings. Operating in tandem with other special forces and regular military battalions, JSOC eviscerated al-Qaida’s network in Iraq. It is nothing less than a secret army within the U.S. military.
We're fighting a secret, undeclared, undiscussed hot war against Iran in multiple nations (of limited scope, at least for now), as well as numerous other hidden conflicts, using "a secret army within the U.S. military." Does anyone believe any of this undemocratic, massive imperial machinery -- and the liberty abridgments that inevitably accompany it -- will be dismantled or even meaningfully reduced because Osama bin Laden is dead?
It is true that a few members of Congress are now advocating an Afghanistan withdrawal (though many were already war skeptics), and there is mixed polling on the war there (though the last thing that determines the end of an American war is public opinion). It would be superb -- a serious cause for celebration -- if the bin Laden killing, now that it's a fait accompli, did produce these benefits, and it's certainly worth exploiting that event to try to bring it about. And we may in fact be tired of our imperial adventure in Afghanistan and ready to re-direct resources to other countries. But America's National Security State and its posture of Endless War was and remains motivated by far more than one man, or even Al Qaeda generally. There's no will on the part of the political class to reverse it -- quite the opposite -- and there won't be until the citizenry demands it.
Read the full article and more at Salon.com
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Bush 'not overjoyed' by death
By: Jennifer Epstein
May 13, 2011 10:37 AM EDT
"Former President George W. Bush was “not overjoyed” to learn of Osama bin Laden’s death, he said earlier this week as he recounted the call from President Barack Obama he received as he was eating a soufflé at a Dallas restaurant.
“I excused myself and went home to take the call,” Bush said on Wednesday at a Las Vegas convention for hedge fund managers, ABC News reported Friday morning. “Obama simply said, ‘Osama Bin Laden is dead.’”
"Bush said that his successor described to him in detail the mission to raid bin Laden’s compound in Pakistan and the decision to carry out the mission. “Good call,” Bush said he told Obama."
The same people. The same people. They are the same people.
Now we can carry on arguing which one is worse than the other...when they are all the same people.
When there is finally a glimmer of awakening amongst us - the non-elites - that the elites are all the same, we will turn a major corner in taking responsibility into our own hands and actually doing something...instead of pointing at the same people. And believe me, they love it when all we do is point.
"The same people, the same people, they are the same people". Yes, except Bush was the village idiot and Obama was the consummate con man; both quislings of the MIC.
Bush was dangerous but stupid. Obama is extremely dangerous because he is smarter than his cousin, George.
highkarate -
What's so awful about kicking Fox the big bad wolf off the reservation, and then gathering round the campfire to start a discussion about serious changes in US military policy by listening first to new, moderate and civil debates that CNN and MSNBC will offer?
Taking the seats vacated by the Fox contingent (who presumably will go lone wolf or huddle up next to the Tea Partiers over at their campsite) and joining the dialogue should be genuine progressives, radicals, disenfranchised groups from the Democratic base shunted aside after the 2008 election, plus a whole array of issue-activist groups, traditional and brand new. What's so awful about that realignment scenario?
You start with the CNN/MSNBC framework, and move the policy making process towards the left from there. The Republican Party has been "successfully" doing the same thing (dumping GOP moderates, welcoming in more radical neocon fringe groups) for thirty years now, moving midfield and the goal post further and further to the right with every turn of the screw.
If the Obama inner circle reelection team has half a brain, they should leap at the chance. If they don't, they are continuing to shoot themselves in the foot, and deserve what they will get in 2012.
Using the death of OBL as domestic partisan cover to reverse course and pull the troops back faster from Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere is fine with me. It's the policy result I'm interested in, not the purity of the rationale that achieves the goal of scaling back violence, militarism and empire.
Bill from Saginaw
Any grown adult who would suggest that ther will be a "Osama dividend", after the the lesson of the "peace diviidend" that didn't appear with the end of the so-called "Soviet threat", is an idiot.
"Defense" against phoney "threats" is a wildly profitable, trillion-dollar US industry employing its finest scientists and engineers, and is large part of the base for what real manufacturing is left in the US!
Glenn,
Stop parroting government propaganda about the alleged killing of OBL. You have zero proof that the US killed OBL last week. It is incredibly short sighted, naive and pawn-ish to keep acting as a stenographer to state propaganda.
Until there is conclusive proof in the form of audio, video, eye witnesses, and independent 3rd party investigators, all you are going on are the words of known liars and institution that thrives on psychological warfare.
Please, wake up.
I read stuff like this then I wonder why anyone who claims to be on the left political spectrum, whether they're liberal or radical, can support the Democratic Party in any capacity, knowing that the Democrats are as thoroughly pro-war, pro-military, pro-terror and pro-police state as the Republicans.
Where are the so-called progressive Democrats? Why aren't they putting up a fight? What they're doing now doesn't cut the mustard. Useless mouthpieces like Kucinich (who I used to like and vote for by the way) can give all the pretty little speeches, pass all the harmless non-binding resolutions and incremental bills they want, at the end of the day such actions do nothing to prevent or challenge the status quo in any meaningful way. They should risk their careers in the name of their principles, not the other way around.
I will always lose my cool with this subject. I'm so sick and tired of militarism and imperialism. Every last one of those wasted resources that are used on the military and the CIA could be used to improve our public services and infrastructure. We could be investing in science, non-military technology, and the arts! Instead we're using it for geopolitics and power projection.
On a smaller note, I acknowledge that I frequently speak in absolute terms. I stand by my anti-war, non-interventionist, libertarian-socialist politics. I absolutely hate our status quo. I really do demand bold, radical changes. Is it so much to ask for integrity and consistency? That people have principles and stand up for them?
Good to Greenwald, at least, still making sense.
Being against the war isn't ENOUGH any more.
Dismantle the Empire NOW!
LOYALTY
Thanks to Greenwald and Salon.
Of course, we do not have "free speech" in North America.
1. I cannot criticize my own country (the US) unless I follow
lines and arguments of the government and the corporate
state. I could decide to jeopardize a "career", a position.
2. I cannot criticize certain countries abroad (such as Israel).
I have to be sure that the US Government and Israel would
approve of my views in advance of my expression.
3. I cannot express views of some foreign policy events unless I
introduce my comments placing them in the context of their
"anti-Americanism". Of course, I cannot refer to Israeli and
US slaughter of Palestinians ("Operation Cast Lead" ; proposal
to condemn Israeli was supported by 14 of 15 Security Council
Members but vetoed by the US on February 18, 2011).
4. I cannot express support of HAMAS or any freedom fighters
which Israel does not like and defines as "terrorists". (Israel
"forgets" its own terrorism.
5. The "Empire" will NOT be dismantled "now". What you can
do, however, is to support full UN membership for Palestine in the UN and
in other international organizations. You can oppose all forms
of Israeli & US occupation and oppression (seiges,blockades, walls
provision of weaponry, subsidy of so-called "settlements" ---
Palestine was already "settled"---by Palestinians. Perhaps they
are unpersons, not a superior race but then Israelis and Americans
are not superior races either!")
email: peterloeb@yahoo.com.
It's time to get rid of Chuck Schumer. Let's get some big money in that state quick. Can't we get somebody do a Richard Gere in Beverly Hills to raise some big time money to bring democracy back. Somebody might need to put the menage back in au trois.
I wonder how soon the extremely valuable and heavily informative Osama bin Laden diaries that were 'discovered' will be released in drips & drabs in the media to counter such stuff like Wikileaks info and US killing of civilians and to keep the bin Laden pot boiling away in the public for years to come?
Need a new aspect on terror to implement new draconian measures? Then by way of writing some diary extracts reveal how bin Laden was 'planning' extreme or far-out attacks that nobody had thought of before, or how they were only just thwarted by the brave and fearless departments worldwide fighting for truth, justice, and the American way.....
I read today in a news report that "The United States has interviewed three of Osama bin Laden's widows but will not say if the women have revealed any useful information."
Amazing how the US can now interview such people when apparently when 911 occurred any bin Laden family were allowed to be whisked away from the USA by jet to a safe haven during the immediate 911 aftermath and no-fly order. --- Makes a great mythos all that stuff.
Notice also how in the media worldwide that reports of bin Laden news these days show photos of the real bin Laden from his earlier days of notoriety so you're constantly being reinforced by association that the guy the USA killed was the same guy in the photo?
Ahhhh, good ol' Osama bin Laden....the guy's going to be more useful and 'active' after his death(s) than he ever was in his life(s).
I notice that today's local news is concentrating on particularly seamy, leering, sordid, thigh-rubbing reports about "Osama"'s porn stash.
Local news is porn. Come to think of it, so is national news.
Funny you should say that.
I'm not beyond talking back to the teevee, though I try not to make a habit of it.
When the newsreader got to the Osama porn report, I barked, "Porn? YOU'RE porn!"
It's fatuous to expect that the reported death of "Emmanuel Goldstein" will precipitate a de-escalation of Oceania's perpetual war against Eurasia... or is it "Eastasia"?
Some deluded, fatuous commenter-- I honestly can't remember who or where-- recently averred piously that Team Obama abolished the official term "Global War on Terror" to demonstrate their rational commitment to scaling back the futile and pernicious perpetual aggressive militarism and intelligence operations mandated by their nefarious predecessor's declaration of a "war" against a formless abstraction.
This commenter believed that the change in nomenclature was proof of the Obama maladministration's good faith and good intentions, and "signalled" a sea change from its predecessor.
I've claimed, to the contrary, that Team Obama in fact abolished that pompous and impossible absurdity because it had become outworn and a tired joke. They shrewdly phased it out in favor of... what? If there IS an official term, it's so self-effacing that no one knows what it is.
To improve the original concept of the hit TV series "Seinfeld"-- "It's a show about nothing"-- the award-winning marketing professionals on Team Obama shrewdly understood that a "war" about "nothing" would be better served by being CALLED "nothing". And so it came to pass.
But the Permanent Global War on an Abstract Noun proceeds apace, and only fools or earnest, hopeful idiots would expect that the alleged summary execution of an iconic phantom super-villain would bring about its de-escalation or extinction.
"They shrewdly phased it out in favor of... what?"
Overseas Contigency Operations.
in philosophy contigency is defined as "the absence of necessity; the fact of being so without having to be so."
very apt.