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'The Worst I've Seen By Far:' Budget Cuts Meet Poverty in the Heartland
For Jack Frech, director of the Athens County Department of Job and Family Services in Appalachian Ohio, the fact that Congress and statehouses across the country are pushing budgets that would further cut assistance for poor people is downright frightening.
I’ve been doing this work for thirty years and this is the worst I’ve seen it by far,” says Frech. “And when I say the worst, I mean the absolute worst.”
Frech says his clients are now “double and tripling up on housing,” and “only surviving because they wait in long lines at food pantries.” They are forgoing medical treatment, and trying to maintain “some old junk car” so they can “put in their 15 or 30 hours—whatever they’re lucky enough to find—to meet their work requirement so they can continue to receive assistance.”
But they’re still not even close to achieving minimal security.
“People on our programs get all the cash and food stamps they’re going to get, meet their work requirements, and still run out of food,” says Frech. “So we have to give food boxes out of our welfare department. That’s a first and it’s absurd.”
Frech says when he began working as a caseworker in 1973 it was far easier for Ohioans and citizens everywhere to get the help they needed.
“The presumption was if you were totally out of help everywhere else you go on down to the welfare department, you sign up, and you get help,” he says. “We’d give people a welfare check, food stamps, and they could find a place to live. It would certainly be humble—but people could have food on the table every day, they could survive.”
But the Clinton-Gingrich welfare reform deal shredded that safety net. It created the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) block grant to replace Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) which had guaranteed cash welfare to poor families with kids since 1935. It also severely limited the funds available.
“Most people don’t realize that welfare reform froze the money for poor people at the 1995 level and has kept it there ever since,” says Frech. “With costs and demands increasing, there is far less money available for programs. And still, nobody is talking about putting one dime more into it.”
The block grant allowed states wide discretion in terms of eligibility, benefit levels, and how the funds would be used. While Republicans and Democrats have both touted caseload reductions as evidence of success, the reductions aren’t due to there being fewer poor families, but a smaller proportion of poor families receiving benefits.
“States have implemented restrictive policies to reduce the number of families who are eligible for assistance,” says Dr. LaDonna Pavetti, vice president at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP).
According to Pavetti, in 1994-95 there were seventy-five families receiving AFDC benefits for every one hundred in poverty. By 2008-09, that number shrank to just twenty-eight families enrolled in TANF for every one hundred in poverty. The impact is borne disproportionately by children.
“There are 14.8 million children living in families with below-poverty income and only 3.4 million of those children are receiving TANF-funded benefits,” said Gordon Berlin, president of MDRC, in recent testimony to Congress.
Many families were denied benefits for failing to meet rigid work requirements that don’t take into account an individual family’s circumstances. Research shows many likely dropped out due to barriers to work, including: mental and physical impairments; substance abuse; domestic violence; low literacy or skill levels; learning disabilities; parenting a child with a disability; and housing, child care, or transportation problems. TANF reauthorization in 2005 also made it more difficult for adults who wish to improve their job skills to count education or training towards their work requirement.
“There is no good justification for the limits TANF now places on job search or education and training,” said Berlin.
“We’re telling people to go get jobs, but when they try and get the education and training they need to be self-sufficient, we tell them that those types of good jobs aren’t for them,” says Melissa Boteach, manager of Half in Ten, a national campaign to reduce poverty by 50 percent over the next ten years.
Indeed a Rutgers University study found that nearly 60 percent of parents who leave state welfare-to-work programs that encourage training and education with a job are still employed one year later, compared to only 22 percent of parents that leave programs that discourage training and education.
“Contrary to what most people seem to believe,” says Frech, “what these folks want most of all is a good job. Their motivation to take care of the people they love is every bit as strong in them as it is in anyone else.”
For those families who do receive TANF benefits, the amount is paltry—less than half of the federal poverty line ($9,155 annually for a family of three) in all states, and less than 30 percent of the poverty line in over half the states.
“When you have kids that you know need food, need shelter, need help, and you intentionally only give them half of what you know they need—if we really cared about kids in this country we’d fix this problem,” says Frech.
Instead, Frech—who has testified at the Ohio General Assembly on every budget since 1979—has watched life grow increasingly difficult for poor people with budget cuts and tax cuts for the wealthy passed on a bipartisan basis over the past decade.
“Both Congress and the Ohio General Assembly still have this bizarre notion that if we just channel enough money to rich folks they’re going to come down here to Athens, or Meigs or Vinton County and invest money in jobs down here in Appalachia,” says Frech. “It’s been proven untrue year after year after year—and yet both parties keep selling it to us anyway.”
As a result, Frech’s department has been forced to cut services at precisely the time when the need is greatest. For example, a dental program which helped 150 clients per month was eliminated; a program helping 690 clients study and work at community college was cut to 500, and slots continue to decline; a summer employment program for teenagers and young adults had 138 participants but received zero funding this year, even with record youth unemployment rates; money to help people with fuel and automobile repairs so that they could fulfill their TANF work requirement was also eliminated.
“If you’re living on $300 to $400 per month, you don’t have money to get your car fixed, or pay for gasoline,” says Frech. “So, these are people who literally have to take food out of their kids’ mouths in order to sweep the county garage and meet their work requirement. And that situation is going to get worse with the next round of budget cuts.”
Frech says he listens in disbelief as politician after politician—from state legislators to President Obama—claim to be “protecting the most vulnerable people, especially children” but support budgets that make the lives of poor people and kids harder.
“Things are just so much harsher now, the way we treat poor people,” says Frech. “It makes you wonder—who is going to champion their cause? When you keep your eyes open to how much people are hurting out there, there’s a lot of nights I don’t sleep.”
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Show AllAn accurate measure of a nation's "prosperity" is in how well it treats the least of its population - the poor, the homeless, the uneducated, the jobless. The various Christian religions go on and on about Jesus, and how he preached that a true Christian is one who cares for the poor and the hungry. Ironic, that America calls itself a "Christian" nation, and yet year after year cuts social programs aimed at helping the poor and the hungry and the down-trodden. Over half of this country's citizens are supportive of torture, our invasions of other countries, indefinite incarcaration of "suspected" terrorists without any trial, "austerity" measures that severely cut back social programs like food stamps, pell grants, unions, collective bargaining rights, aid for poor families, etc. And yet they proudly declare themselves "Christians," and go to church every Sunday so they can feel saved.
I suspect, if there is a Jesus, He will judge them quite differently than they judge themselves when their time comes to stand before Him. If America is a Christian nation, I would shudder to see a Satanic one.
Spend some time talking to these “Christians” and you’ll find that their ideas are quite strange. They circumvent all those teachings of Jesus like “turn the other cheek” and locate passages in the Jewish Bible to support violence. They have focused on the Calvinistic idea that God displays his approval of you through your prosperity, ignoring the teachings of Jesus of charity and anti-materialism.
Many of the women dress in ways that prostitutes would find below their dignity while preaching virginity until marriage, and they enter into holy matrimony by chatting up men with lots of money or great prospects so they might find one to marry them. Then they’ll be nice and comfy, all the while seeing this comfy life as proof that God loves them and they are saved. When I was 13, my aunt gave me a book once that explained how to do it, something called “The Fascinating Girl.”
They tithe. They don’t tithe so the church can provide services for the poor, although some might do a bit of that—but usually over in India or somewhere not in the US, because our country’s poor people are just lazy. No, they tithe so their star minister can show the world that he is right (and so are they) through gaudy mega churches and getting their sermons on Sunday morning television.
Many believe that Armageddon is coming so all the wars, genocides, invasions, mass murders, and natural disasters are good things, signs of Jesus’s return.
The crucifixion has nothing to do with people being vicious or rabidly confused. It was Jesus’s way to get them into heaven. All they have to do is believe “Christ died for my sins” and they’ll have a really nice time forever. Oh, plus they’re supposed to tell other people to believe the same so they’ll be saved too. Like when the soldiers in Iraq started passing out booklets to Muslims on why Christianity is a better religion.
They talk about God a lot. But more often they talk about the evil people in the world—that is, everyone who doesn’t support their version of batshit. Those evil should all die, and will, and they’ll go to hell and be waterboarded once an hour for eternity.
They’re very afraid of “terrorists,” and have never forgiven them for the faux news reports that those terrorists were planning to bomb their shopping malls—you know, the reports stemming from all the things al-Libi made up while being tortured year after year.
The language has gone increasingly Orwellian, so don’t expect Christianity to mean peace and love, caring about your fellows, or anything crazy like that.
We need to find a better word to describe those who adhere to the teachings of Jesus. I call myself a fan of MLK.
Thanks for that very straightforward account of how these clowns calling themselves Christians think and act. You covered most of it, and for a fuller picture, see Chris Hedges' book "American Fascists." It is chilling being around these hypocritical, self-righteous ignoramuses. And they are absolutely everywhere on the American landscape, now maybe more than ever. Nearly all of them are Republicans, naturally, and most tea baggers are in this category.
It's literally as if they found a way to reverse every single teaching of Jesus and assert that he meant the exact opposite of what he said. As this article shows, our misrepresentatives in Washington have passed laws that reflect the sympathies of these BizarroChristians, where the poor and most vulnerable among us are left to fend for themselves, with no help whatsoever from this hypocritical "Christian" nation.
The Arab Spring that's been taking place this year was largely triggered by just this kind of neglect of ordinary people by the tyrannical governments of the Middle East. No jobs, food prices out of reach, no assistance, wretched living conditions, no security, reduced to invisibility--the same conditions Americans are now facing by the millions. Will we see anything similar in the US to what we've seen in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Libya, Bahrain? How long can oppressed and discarded Americans be distracted by the idiocies of TV before they rise up and crush those who are destroying them? How many have to starve in the streets and Wal-Mart parking lots before something is done? How long before these Christian fascists are exposed once and for all, for what they are?
The rural poor often have guns.
Maybe they'll decide to take out an xian mega-preacher or two.
I'm constantly surrounded by these "Christians," so it's always exciting to read an intelligent comment like this.
Most of the people who call themselves Christians don't get the deal, spelled out in the Lord's Prayer: Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Christians are really good at declaring themselves forgiven but don't really do all that good at forgiving others. But then the deal is broken and the forgiveness they think they have is null and void. You can't be a Christian and call for revenge and punishment.
Glad I don't believe in anything spiritual. I'd never make it to heaven.
My apologies for offending you. I can only tell the truth as I see it from my limited perspective. Please do not accuse people of good will--it does no good. Have compassion for my ignorance, and God bless.
MACIEK Everyone has their own preferred prism through which to view the complex matrix and the reality that's generated from it.
If you expand your mind, you might consider looking into the areas where the right wing Christian beliefs in Armageddon, a Calvinist-basis for economics, and a love of rules/order/conformity dovetails quite well with the MIC & its make-war state. Both lean towards authoritarian societal standards. Then the 3rd key ingredient to this diabolical mix is the uber: free market capitalist bankser caste that profits so enormously from deadly spectacles of all kinds.
Rather than seek an either-or analysis, look for arenas of congruence. You may find the net areas of overlap to be quite remarkable. In my view, discovering how these forces work together to form their own powerful mosaic is the thing worth pursuing. That is if one wants to obtain a greater understanding...
Agreed. Much of the Evangelical movement is an extreme right wing political movement thinly disguised as religion. At the same time, much of liberalism is a religious movement disguised as politics. That is the source of much confusion.
Excellent comment, Elizabeth.
For the past several months, I've been hearing from a friend who moved to Florida last year because of her husband's health issues. She's moved around a lot over the years, but was born and raised in Philadelphia PA and had always come back to Philly when circumstances permitted.
She did live in Mount Carmel, a small town near Wilkes-Barre in central PA "coal country"-- or former coal country-- for a couple of years.
I mention this because she's now living and working with EXACTLY the kind of "Christians" you describe; in fact, although she's not quite so eloquent, her descriptions are interchangeable with yours.
In fact, I made the questionable decision to send her a copy of the late Joe Bageant's "Deer Hunting with Jesus", which also immediately made me think of my poor transplanted friend when I finally got around to reading it a few months ago. I say it's "questionable" because I worry that it might be putting salt in the wound.
Before this, her stay in Mt. Carmel was her longest exposure to a culturally conservative "Christian" community. And she keeps saying, "This bunch is WAY WORSE than Mt. Carmel folks!"
She's literally struggling to make ends meet, especially given Florida's reactionary benefit-cutting governor and the increasing limits to available aid for her chronically-ill husband. So she's not concerned with brainstorming over how to "dialogue" or "reach out" to her politically and culturally troglodytic in-laws, neighbors, and co-workers.
She's happy when she finds exceptions to the rule.
But we've occasionally discussed the dilemma that so often recurs in CD threads, e.g. when commenters deplore the expressed tendency to reflexively put down, deride, or scorn "working-class" people, "Tea Partiers", "Christians", etc. Such critics view this attitude as elitist, narrow-minded, pejoratively "judgemental", and perniciously divisive and counter-productive.
I try to avoid habitually using terms like "sheeple", but I'm also not impressed or fazed by pious expressions of sentimental egalitarianism, and a stereotype of the "noble yahoo" that is as preposterous as the stereotype of the "noble savage" popular in previous centuries.
In short, maybe these "Christians" ARE victims of a manipulative and oppressive culture, and more to be pitied than censured. But as good as Bageant's book is, even he doesn't go much beyond arguing that well-meaning progressives and liberals need to understand why the "Christian" yahoo underclass is captive to the overclass, buys into their "hologram" of manufactured pseudo-culture, and thus irrationally supports the Amerikan Imperium that is literally squeezing the life out of them.
FWIW, my friend is not sanguine about the prospects of finding common cause with these "Christians". "HELL, no!" she insists. "There are one or two people you can talk to a little bit-- but the rest are as set in their ways as it gets. More and more, I just humor them when I can, and avoid them when I can't."
"when commenters deplore the expressed tendency to reflexively put down, deride, or scorn "working-class" people, "Tea Partiers", "Christians", etc. Such critics view this attitude as elitist, narrow-minded, pejoratively "judgemental", and perniciously divisive and counter-productive."
There is a huge difference between criticizing the Tea Party xian fascists and showing scorn towards "working class people". The former is a critique of a set of political and cultural beliefs. The latter is classism.
Also, the political ignorance and powerlessnes of many working class people can be traced directly to the destruction of militant workers organizations and to the purging of militant worker advocates (ie Reds) that was so pervasive in the 1950's.
The solution is not to attempt to justify classism, but to become actively involved in unions and community organizations that seek to empower workers.
Of course for many liberal professionals, this would mean confronting their own classist attitudes and also respecting working people who might disagree with liberal stands on a variety of social issues. For most liberals and "pwogs" that I know, this will never happen. The interests of the working class are genearally far down the list of most middle class progs. For instance most pwogs will put feminism and gay marriage well ahead of economic justice on their list of values.
Yes but they can be moved in the left direction.
See http://blog.aflcio.org/2011/05/10/afl-cio-partners-with-domestic-workers-alliance-national-guestworkers-alliance/
At least their is a potential for unions to become stronger advocates for the masses.
Also, membership in a union is often leads to a better understanding of the political economic dynamics at work under capitalism.
That potential doesn't really exist in any other major social institutions in the US.
And to be clear, the Tea Party is predominantly composed of somewhat well-off folksie-style bourgeois, not low-wage earners. They are as rich as the bourgeois liberals, but not through the "professional" occupations but through small service and construction businesses, or (frequently here in W. PA) oil and gas royalties on their land.
I have yet to meed a genuine struggling wage earner who is sympathetic to the tea party. When I went to collect ballot petetion signatures for Green Candidates, the ease at getting signatures increased dramatically the poorer the neighborhood I was in.
Good point!
It is a sign of classism that so many liberals put the Tea Party in the ignorant unwashed masses category. Maybe those masses aren't as ignorant as many liberal elitists would like to believe.
Excellent post.
The partisan bickering in this country - and many people insist that this partisan bickering encompasses the entirety of all possible political realities - is between the bourgeois liberals from the professional occupations and the bourgeois conservatives in small service and construction and manufacturing businesses. Both groups are relatively small, both are relatively upscale and disproportionately from the upper 10% income brackets, both support the ruling class - are striving to join it or to be in service to it in exchange for favors and perks and status - and both hold the general population in contempt.
The society is politically divided between the haves and the have nots, not between the two bourgeois factions that have their political expression in the two major political parties.
O.S. I am another New England transplant playing the part of Dianne Fossey in these parts, and I know well (seeing it firsthand) that backward belief systems that discourage the questioning of authority purposely stunt the intellectual acumen of their members. They keep people frozen, their very essences held hostage. Part is the belief in sin, hell, fear, and damnation..
I keep to myself, and was grateful that life sent me another New York transplant... the guy I hang out with. Here and there I find a rare friend or two, those who are not indoctrinated into Christian programming. Most people around here are exceedingly fearful (and judgmental) of "outsiders," and their churches exert unbelievable controls over their flocks. I once felt comfortable enough to ask this woman why there were so many Baptist churches and she explained that in some women were allowed to wear pants, and in others, only dresses. American Taliban, anyone?
Sometimes when I bike these parts I get flashbacks of the movie, "Deliverance." It can be THAT bad here. A woman I know told me about a family where incest was very prevalent, and I also heard that the rates of that type of family perversion run very high in these little Bible belt back water towns.
This is why when a few in the CD forum try to sound like retro-Marx enthusiasts, telling us to break bread with our fellow workers and such, all I can say is... let THEM come down here and try it.
I am loathe to invalidate your perceptions and reality, SR, and I say this to add a different perspective to the mix, not to refute your observations.
I have travelled extensively throughout the South for decades as a performer - always saying the same things that I say here - to every backward town and impoverished and isolated area - every "little Bible belt back water town." While I do see the things you describe, I find it to be the exception. So, I for one have come down there and have tried it. For decades, with thousands and thousands of people. I don't find a lot of resistance to talk about class struggle. Where I do find resistance and violent opposition is from the more upscale people, including liberals and progressives.
The things you are describing about the Evangelical sects I see in an equally virulent form - if not more so - in the northern suburbs.
I certainly hope that you are not referring to me when you talk about people here who "try to sound like retro-Marx enthusiasts." LOL.
Perhaps Rose is saying that we shouldn't feel obliged to make nice with those who make our skin crawl. Yes, yes tolerance and all that, but not all things should be tolerated and /or accepted, some should be quietly, but firmly refused. If you find yourself in the presence of an incorrigible troglodyte (psychopath is good word here too), refuse to nod in agreement, and make your exit as soon as it is feasible.
Two Americas,
What kinds of performances do you do? Do you perform for poorer audiences rather than the more conservative middle class? Or, regardless of class, people who attend live performances of practically anything except strippers her in the USA tend to be to the left of center.
Not sure, but I'd love to learn the "Froggy Hop Wiggle." :-)
Poor, rural and urban, blue collar, minority communities - by choice. I don't work in suburbs or college towns. I go to where the need is - churches, community centers - not to where the "gigs" are. I don't see many of the "people who attend live performances," nor do I pursue them - by choice.
It is among the most successful and enlightened people that I see the most psychopathic behavior. Success and psychopathic behavior go together like hand and glove in this culture.
If people find that their "skin crawls" when they are among the common people, the suffering and struggling people, they may need to look in the mirror to find where changes need to be made.
The "incorrigible troglodytes" in my experience are the people in power, the ones running the show, at all levels of society.
Sorry, I live in a working class neighborhood, and was actually thinking about one of my more well to do 'friends'. But, TA, not all the well to do are devils, nor all working class people saints. And I don't much care for the word 'enlightened' because just about everyone makes that claim. I still make no apologies that those who are militant, pro war, pro union busting, or self-righteously religious make me want to turn and walk the other way, regardless of their class. Even those who post here on CD that seem to have a bone to pick, or make snap judgements about other posters, There's such a thing as militant do-gooder, or a self-righteous leftie. You often find that those who know what is good for everyone else, know least about what's good for themselves. So forgive me for being a bit skeptical here.
I've travelled extensively in the South and there is a bit of a "Jesus or Jack Daniels" dynamic whereby people are either a loyal church member mouthing conservative social views, or they are hard partying, outsiders living on the edge.
I tended to hang with the latter, and they were very open to class based issues.
Maybe SR doesn't hang with that admittedly rougher crowd. I think they'd be okay with her left politics but wouldn't put up with the new age feminism for very long.
Hi OB, it's hard to abide those with hardened hearts. I suppose we are all 'victims' of a psychopathic society and the dysfunctional families it produces, but I also believe our ignorance and the maintenance thereof is our responsibility. If people want to remain unconscious 'killing machines,' with all the cruelty that that implies, that is their business. For my part, I choose to minimize my contact with them. It makes for many lonely moments, but I prefer them exponentially over being in their company.
Hmm, what exactly are "unconscious killing machines, with all the cruelty that that implies."
This thread was a discussion of rural poverty and classism, but the unsupported classist stereotypes are flying like crazy.
How is it that at least half of the commentors here jump to equate bigotry and violence with the poor? Yet bigotry and viloence on a massive scale is really the domain of the super wealthy "leaders" of the US.
I agree that social time with bigots and bullies is an experience to be avoided, but why throw a classist spin on that fact?
For way too many libs and progs, its just a hop skip and a jump from a discussion of rural poverty to a classist diatribe against those awful hateful workers and poor.
I have no idea what this has to do with class, but those who are aggressive and love war, whatever class, will not be invited over to break bread at my table. Don't really care about the left and right nonsense either, as I do not put too much stock in labels of any kind.
This article's main focus is on the issue of class, particularly on the ever increasing poverty in rural America.
It's interesting how quicly the discussion devolves to a parade of classist commentary about the cultural and political backwardness of the victims of rural poverty.
So you don't want to "break bread" with violent people. And just what does that have to do with the issue being discussed here, ie rural poverty?
Seems like you're main goal is to demonstrate the superiority of your personal value system. The self-centerdness of your comment certainly has little to do with the pressing problems of rural poverty.
You know dream-joe, you seem to love conflict, or to provoke it where it is not necessary, making assertions, projections. I was responding to a post by OS. No offense, but I don't have to post in accordance with what you or anyone else believes is on topic or not, nor justify my posts. I'm not above or below anything or anyone else; I do not look at life through such a lens. It seems to me like you're the one passing judgement here. Having a violent or provocative nature has nothing to do with class, or even education. There is already enough conflict in life without going out looking for more, just read through the posts here at CD.
Could you moralize a little more? I haven't been scolded enough.
You're ignorance as to the connections between capitalism and violence is remarkable. Do you think some people just have a "violent and provacative nature" and that's the cause of the overwhelming institutionalized violence in the world?
You want to focus on imaginary individuals with violent natures. I'm saying that your simplistic thinking on the matter is essentially self agrandizing ("Look at how non-violent I am. I don't break bread with brutes - so what? who cares? what does it have to do with rural poverty") Probabaly stems from a "spiritual" approach to things.
Of course you don't have to justify your posts to me. You either respond or you don't. How you respond is up to you.
Class has everything to do with whether a person ends up in a street gang or the military to be trained as a killer.
Violence is often based in ignorance. Education is often an antidote to violence.
It seems to me that you lack an understanding of the class dynamics in the US and the myriad ways in which they damage working and poor people.
I know what it is to be poor and struggle, my friend, probably more than many who post here. You're the one preaching, making projections, and riding a high horse. I simply said that I do not care to be with people who are gung-ho when it comes to war and violence and show a clear lack of sensitivity/ compassion toward others, not those who feel they are forced to serve due to dire economic circumstances, though I might not agree that's their only alternative. If you are aggressive, violent, rude, and stir up conflict wherever you go, I rather not hang around you, nor would you with me. I'm not claiming to be superior to them (that's YOUR projection, interpretation), just that we don't mix well and I don't share their interests. I'd bet that you don't go to a lot of 'church parties' either, where they salute Rush Limbaugh, and morn the loss of GWB.
" If you are aggressive, violent, rude, and stir up conflict wherever you go, I rather not hang around you, nor would you with me."
Sure, that makes sense, but it's an odd response to the issue of extreme rural poverty. Rather than a compassionate response, it's akin to blaming victims by creating a stereotype of rural poor and then going on to condemn that stereotype.
Seems like a blame the victim approach.
It's not your relatively minor point regarding the difficulty of socializing with violent people that I'm rebutting, it's the reactionary nature of that very personal comment in the context of a report about rural poverty. Of course you are not alone in your bias, as this type of unconscious elitism shows up regularly here on CD.
This is an important point that needed to be made. Well done. Thanks.
I remember a line in the Bible (don't remember chapter & verse, or the "verbatim"), but it had Jesus saying something like 'not all who come unto Me saying "Lord Lord" will enter into Heaven'. He meant exactly those so-called christians who "talk the talk" but walk with "backwards feet", who despise & abuse the poor & downtrodden, and victimize indirectly, or even directly. He also said something like "I was thirsty & you gave no water. I was hungry & you gave me no food. I was exposed to the elements & you sheltered Me not". When the so-called christians asked when did they do such a thing, He said " Verily I say unto you, as ye have done it unto the least of these, ye have done it unto Me."
Also, we forget(or perhaps are afraid to remember) that such powerful entities that are part of the grand heirarchy of the Creator's creation, popularly called angels, demons ,gods, goddesses, fairies, devtas, avatars and such, can "step down" their frequency to ours', (which we call "physical reality"as we perceive it through our 5 natural senses) and assume a human form to perform whatever task they have to do. Sometimes posing as a "down & out" homeless person, or other humble persona. That person that you treat poorly may not be what you think he/she is.
Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." NIV
INB: A post that would make Edgar Cayce proud. Nice work.
Hi SR. Thanks. I used to be in an Edgar Cayce study group (don't know if those still exist) back in the early 70's (barely out of high school). "The Quest" has defined my life. THIS is how I remember the 70's. I pretty much knew conventional church-going was empty and lifeless by the time I was 10 years old, so I was on a quest to find "IT" (I'd know it when I found "IT"). It took me through comparative religions, occultism/spiritualisms, eckankar, the Rosicrucians (I was an initiate for awhile), TM, Unity church, Edgar Cayce, before I found the path I'm now on (which I will never discuss in a public forum). I used to keep a dream journal too, for over two years. That was VERY interesting. It was about fifty-fifty good dreams to nightmares. These were hard times too, with bouts of fear & terror & suicidal thoughts. I'm an old veteran of these battles now. I got "protection" that works and they don't phaze me any more (I guess the adversary has given up this tactic; doesn't work. What works for him is "the armistice" where he doesn't mess with me much if I don't proceed too vigorously. The life of the spirit is like being on the "front lines" in a batlle, with frequent forays across "no man's land". I see lots of casualties amongst our little " battalion". It's OK. They're only "flesh wounds").
OOps, double-post
Charity begins at home. While many individuals in congress are making billions on war contracts, legalized insider trading, insurance mandates etc., you should see this. Obama Care goes global.....
Billion-Dollar Global Health Care Plan Unveiled
http://www.tradeaidmonitor.com/2011/04/billion-dollar-global-health-care-plan-unveiled.html
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A trio of additional healthcare projects of the Obama Administration are slated to be administered by a handful of private-sector vendors at a cost of nearly $1 billion—initiatives that contractors will carry out in Africa, Asia/Middle East and the Latin America/Caribbean regions.
In the word of Nancy Pelosi, "We have to pass it so you can see what's inside"....
In the words of Gomer Pyle, "Surprise, Surprise, Surprise"!
hey we have to take care of the important stuff first: israel, mic, hedge funds, foreign banks and the koch brothers
for the rest: let them eat gmo bread, then take their vaccine and then their ride to the fema prisons
yes, its all happening
look forward to this: more poverty, destroyed dollar, more mexicans, more medications and vaccines, and four more years of the by now rancid obummer
gonna be quite a ride
go and see the movie the road and you'll begin, just begin to understand
What about reframing the argument for the deaf-and-blind neo-con followers: pro-life means aid to the poor?
I was a child protection caseworker, a food stamp and medicaid caseworker, for the State of Indiana for 18 years. After Mitch Daniels, Governor of Indiana, privatized my job and sold it to IBM/ACS, my elderly have fallen through the cracks of the Call Centers. The privatization was stopped mid-roll out so for the past 2 years half of Indiana has had caseworkers and half of Indiana has not. And Mitch is content to let it stay this way. Food stamp applications have dropped in the Counties that are privatized and increased in the counties with caseworkers. Mitch Daniels has cut the unemployment weeks from 26 to 20 weeks beginning the first of July. He has also created different types of unemployment where Seasonal workers, like construction workers, can't get benefits during the Winter. There seems to be old fashion stereotypes of "Welfare Queens" who deliberately get pregnant to gain benefits and live off of them so that they don't have to work. What I see are families that can only get part time jobs and lose their apartments and end up living in motels because they can't afford deposits and one or two months rent to get back into a place. Children are being raised in motels!!! The amount of food stamps given are not lasting until the end of the month unless there is close budgeting. Unfortunately most of these families have lower life skills, including budgeting and cooking, than other families. And many of these families are lower IQ or have physical disabilities.
"he has forgotten the explosion of programs and benefits since those day's. I believe he is forgetting the exceptional rise in expense in meeting the same."
Assuming you are trying to make a fact-based argument, it would be helpful if you gave specifics for your claims in order to be able to judge your contentions. Please let us know exactly what exceptional explosion of programs and benefits you are referring to.
Exactly. Has he even heard of Clinton's at once condescendingly and Orwellingly named "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act" that deeply cult all welfare programs?
Corporate America needs a large segment of Americans to be suffering in abject poverty so those working at McJobs will be ever so grateful for whatever the greed pigs trickle down upon them.
In a recent week-long work related trip visiting coal mines in southern Illinous and Indiana - that region derogatorily called "flyover country" by the rich northeast and west coast elites, I was quite shocked at the poverty I saw in places like Carmi, IL or Carlisle, IN a major part of the the formerly fine homes in these town are in disrepair, and I even saw that dull-eyed look of some unemployed people on the rickety porches that I haven't seen since my Venezuela oil-field days. And, my basis of comparison is hardly-wealthy Pittsburgh.
The coal mines remain one of the few sources of living wage jobs ar far as I can see, but from the scared and cowed all-non-union miners I met, I suspect that the mines have already fugured out that they can pay them far less and with each new hire, probably do. Now all they have to so is get rid of those pesky MSHA regulations and the happy days of the 19th century will be here again.
Spike is running weekly show on Coal mining, to go against "Deadlest Catch" anyway the show is about the operation of a tiny shoestring non-union operation and what it takes to get the coal out, I find it very informative. Black Lung and horrid working conditions are alive and well, add in drug testing and unsafe working conditions I wouldn't send my boss into. It runs Sunday nights.
http://www.spike.com/shows/coal
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Yeah.
I don't have cable - but the show has certainly been a bit topic here at work.
An MSHA inspector has issued this mine several citations by watching this show from his living room.
Many poverty programs grew out of the "war on poverty" programs of the 60's - in part due to the Government trying to find ways to end the ghettos insurrections or riots prevalent then. I suspect that at some point we'll see a tipping point in poverty that eventually reignite the cities once again.
Already we see this in the Middle East. I'm not sure it will all end well.
In the sixties the police did not have SWAT teams, surplus armored personal carriers, M-16's, sniper rifles and DARPA death rays (DARPA death rays are probably just another boondoggle that doesn't work for crap but the MSM sure did their part in the propaganda wars).
But yeah, we're talking New Orleans, Katrina level body counts.