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Who’s Bashing Teachers and Public Schools and What Can We Do About It?
The short answer to this question is that far too many people are bashing teachers and public schools, and we need to give them more homework, because very few of them know what they’re talking about. And a few need some serious detention.
(Illustration: David McLimans)
But the longer answer is that the bashing is coming from different places for different reasons. And to respond effectively to the very real attacks that our schools, our profession, and our communities face, it’s important to pay attention to these differences.
The parent who’s angry at the public school system because it’s not successfully educating his/her children is not the same as the billionaire with no education experience who couldn’t survive in a classroom for two days, but who has made privatizing education policy a hobby, and who has the resources to do so because the country’s financial and tax systems are broken.
The educators who start a community-based charter school so they can create a collaborative school culture are not the same as the hedge fund managers who invest in charter schools because they see an opportunity to turn a profit or because they want to privatize one of the last public institutions we have left.
The well-meaning college grad who joins a Teach for America program out of an altruistic impulse is not the same as the corporate managers who want to use market reforms to create a less expensive, less secure, and less experienced teaching force.
And the hard-pressed taxpayer who directs frustration at teachers struggling to hang on to their health insurance or pensions—which far too few people have at all—is not coming from the same place as those responsible for the obscene economic inequality that is squeezing both.
In my home state of New Jersey, there’s a man named David Tepper who manages the Appaloosa Hedge Fund. Last year, Tepper made $4 billion as a hedge fund manager. This was equal to the salaries of 60 percent of the state’s teachers, who educate 850,000 students. But Gov. Christie rolled back a millionaire’s tax and cut $1 billion out of the state school budget, so people like Tepper would have lower taxes. It’s not only impossible to sustain a successful public school system with such policies, it’s also impossible to sustain anything resembling a democracy for very long.
What’s at Stake
I’ve spent a large part of my adult life criticizing the flawed institutions and policies of public education as a teacher, an education activist, and a policy advocate. But these days I find myself spending a lot of time defending the very idea of public education against those who say, sometimes literally, it should be blown up. Because the increasingly polarized national debate around education policy is not just about whether teachers feel the sting of public criticism or whether school budgets suffer another round of budget cuts in a society that has its priorities seriously upside down.
It’s really not even about the hot-button reform issues like merit pay or charter schools. What’s ultimately at stake is more basic. It’s whether the right to a free public education for all children is going to survive as a fundamental democratic promise in our society, and whether the schools and districts needed to provide it are going to survive as public institutions, collectively owned and democratically managed—however imperfectly—by all of us as citizens. Or will they be privatized and commercialized by the corporate interests that increasingly dominate all aspects of our society?
The corporate reformers’ larger goal, to borrow a phrase from the Democrats for Education Reform (DFER), a political lobby financed by hedge fund millionaires that is a chief architect of the current campaign, is to “burst the dam” that has historically protected public education and its $600 billion annual expenditures from unchecked commercial exploitation and privatization.
This is not some secret conspiracy. It’s a multisided political campaign funded by wealthy financial interests like hedge fund superstar Whitney Tilson and rich private foundations like Gates, Broad, and Walton. And it’s important to keep this big picture in mind, even as we talk about specifics like merit pay and charters, because these issues are the dynamite charges being put in place to burst the dam.
What is really new and alarming are the large strides that those promoting business models and market reforms have made in attaching their agenda to the urgent need of poor communities who have, in too many cases, been badly served by the current system.
The narrative of public education as a systematic failure has been fed in recent years by the shifting of federal policy away from its historic role as a promoter of access and equity in public education through support for things like school integration, extra funding for high-poverty schools, and services for students with special needs, to a much less equitable set of federal mandates around testing, closing schools, firing school staff, and distributing federal funds through competitive grants to “winners” at the expense of “losers.” Taken together these policies, embodied first in NCLB and now in a “Race Over the Cliff,” have helped create an impression of public education as a failure that is steadily eroding the common ground it needs to survive.
Democrats have been playing tag team with Republicans to build on the test-and-punish approach. Just how much this bipartisan consensus has solidified came home to me when I picked up my local paper one morning and saw Gov. Christie, the most anti-public education governor New Jersey has ever had, quoted as saying, “This is an incredibly special moment in American history, where you have Republicans in New Jersey agreeing with a Democratic president on how to get reform.”
Under NCLB this bipartisan consensus used test scores to move decisions about teaching and learning away from classrooms, schools, and districts to state and federal bureaucracies. Test score gaps have been used to label schools as failures without providing the resources and strategies needed to eliminate the gaps.
Today a deepening corporate/foundation/political alliance is using this same test-based accountability to drill down further into the fabric of public education to close schools, transform the teaching profession, and increase the authority of mayors and managers while decreasing the power of educators.
What we’re facing is a policy environment where bad ideas nurtured for years in conservative think tanks and private foundations have taken root in Congress, the White House, and the federal education department, and are now aligned with powerful national and state campaigns fueled with unprecedented amounts of public and private dollars.
Unless we change direction, the combined impact of these proposals will do for public schooling what market reform has done for housing, health care, and the economy: produce fabulous profits for a few and unequal access and outcomes for the many.
The corporate/foundation crowd has successfully captured the media label as “education reformers.” If you support charters, merit pay, and control of school policy by corporate managers you’re a reformer. If you support increased school funding, collective bargaining, and control of school policy by educators, you’re a defender of the status quo. This is hardly a surprise in a media culture that allows FOX News to call itself “fair and balanced,” but it does make intelligent debate about education policy more difficult.
Confronting Poverty
This is particularly true when it comes to the way the issue of poverty is being framed.
One lesson I’ve learned over the years is that school power comes in many pieces. And these pieces, large or small, can be used to promote social justice. Not only on big issues like funding equity or federal and state policy, but also daily inside our classrooms in the choices we make in our teaching, assessment, and curriculum practices; in the relations between our schools and the communities they serve; and in the way our unions advocate for the needs and rights of our students and families along with our own interests as teachers.
Serving schools with high numbers of students in poverty is no excuse for bad teaching, poor curriculum, massive dropout rates, or year after year of lousy school outcomes. We need accountability systems that put pressure on schools to respond effectively to the communities they serve. In my experience, parents are the key to creating that pressure, and teachers are the key to implementing the changes needed to address it. Finding ways to promote a kind of collaborative tension and partnership between these groups is one of the keys to school improvement.
But the idea that schools alone can make up for the inequality and poverty that exist all around them has increasingly become part of the “no excuses” drumbeat used to impose reforms that have no record of success as school improvement strategies. In fact, many are not educational strategies at all, but political strategies designed to bring market reform to public education. We used to hear that the “single most important school-based factor” in student achievement was the quality of the teacher. Now even the school-based qualification is being left out. Instead we’re hearing absurd claims about how super-teachers can eliminate achievement gaps in two or three years with scripted curricula handed down from above, and how the real problem in schools is not the country’s shameful 23 percent child poverty rate or underfunded schools. Instead, it’s bad teachers.
Now it’s absolutely true that effective teachers and good schools can make an enormous difference in the life chances of children. And it’s also true that struggling teachers who don’t improve after they’ve been given support and opportunities to do so need to go manage hedge funds or do some other less important work.
But when it comes to student achievement—and especially the narrow kind of culturally slanted pseudo-achievement captured by standardized test scores—there is no evidence that the test score gaps you read about constantly in the papers can be traced to bad teaching, and there is overwhelming evidence that they closely reflect the inequalities of race, class, and opportunity that follow students to school.
Teachers count a lot. But reality counts, too, and “reformers” who discount the impact of poverty are actually the ones making excuses for their failure to make poverty reduction and adequate and equitable school funding a central part of school improvement efforts. The federal government has put more effort into pressing states to tie individual teacher compensation to test scores and eliminate caps on charter schools than encouraging them to distribute more fairly the $600 billion they spend annually on K-12 education.
Instead, at a time when corporate profits and economic inequality are at their highest levels in the history of the country, the U.S. secretary of education says that schools must get used to the “new normal” and do more with less. For Arne Duncan and Bill Gates, cutting education budgets is not a problem, it’s an opportunity. They are now traveling the country proposing that schools save money by increasing class sizes, ending pay for teachers’ experience and advanced degrees, closing schools, and replacing real classrooms with virtual ones.
At the same time they want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to create more tests based on the new common core standards and use those tests to implement merit pay plans.
No Value in ‘Value Added’
At this point spending more money on standardized tests to track academic achievement gaps is like passing out thermometers in a malaria epidemic. People need better health care, more hospitals, and better-trained doctors. They don’t need more thermometers.
There is no research that shows that paying teachers to raise test scores improves student achievement, raises graduation rates, increases college participation, narrows academic gaps, or produces any of the positive school outcomes that policy makers say they seek.
Test-based teacher evaluation systems have the potential to seriously damage the teaching profession. The National Academy of Sciences found 20 to 30 percent error rates in “value-added” ratings systems based on their own dubious premises. Teachers in the bottom group one year were often in the top group the next and vice versa. The same teachers measured by two different standardized tests produced completely inconsistent results. The basic assumptions of these testing systems are at odds with the way real schools actually work. Bending school practices to accommodate them could negatively affect everything from the way students are assigned to classes to the willingness of teachers to serve high-needs populations and the collaborative professional culture that good schools depend on for success. They would also require yet another massive increase in standardized testing to deal with the fact that less than 25 percent of teachers in most school systems teach math and language arts, which is what most states currently test.
When you add the practice now under way in cities like Los Angeles and New York of publishing these psychometric astrology ratings in the paper next to the names of individual teachers, you have a recipe for community chaos and educational tragedy.
These plans are not about helping schools develop better systems to support teacher effectiveness; they are obstacles to it. For example, in Maryland, the Montgomery County Education Association negotiated a professional growth system that included test scores as one part of an evaluation process that looks at student outcomes, classroom performance, professional responsibilities, advanced degrees, and other factors. The process requires all new teachers and teachers who’ve been identified as struggling to work with well-trained teacher coaches over a two-year period to improve their practice and results. The system has resulted in a significant increase in teacher quality, including decisions, jointly supported by the union and administration, to remove several hundred teachers from the classroom over a period of years. But last year Maryland won a Race to the Top grant that, under federal pressure, requires 50 percent of teacher evaluations to be based strictly on test scores. The grant threatens to destroy a successful system developed by collective bargaining that actually works to improve results for teachers and students.
The Changing Character of the Charter Movement
The last issue I want to discuss is charter schools. As you know if you’ve seen Waiting for “Superman,” charter schools are being hailed as a kind of new magic reform bullet.
Charter schools have an interesting history that has often been overlooked in the current debate. The first charter schools were initiated by Albert Shanker and the American Federation of Teachers in New York City in the late ’80s and ’90s. They were originally designed as teacher-run schools that would serve students who were struggling inside the regular system and would operate outside the reach of the administrative bureaucracy and the highly politicized school board. These first charters also drew on early rounds of small high school experiments initiated by teachers or community activists as alternatives to large comprehensive high schools. But, after a few years, Shanker became concerned that the charters and small schools were fragmenting the district, creating unequal tiers of schools serving different populations of students with unequal access, and also weakening the collective power of the teachers’ union to negotiate with the administration about districtwide concerns. So he pulled back at a time when there were still very few charters. Instead, he and other union leaders focused on the standards movement, which for them became the primary engine for reform.
But charters continued to grow slowly. Individual states, beginning with Minnesota, began to pass laws to promote the formation of charters, partly as a model of reform and partly as the construction of a parallel system outside the reach of both teachers’ unions and, in some cases, the federal and state requirements to serve and accept all students. And this charter movement gradually began to attract the interest of political and financial interests who saw the public school system as a socialist monopoly ripe for market reform.
In the past 10 years, the character of the charter school movement has changed dramatically from community-based, educator-initiated local efforts to create alternatives for a small number of students to nationally funded efforts by foundations, investors, and educational management companies to create a parallel, more privatized system.
Today there are about 5,000 charter schools in the United States that enroll about 4 percent of all students. Although charter laws are different in each state, in general charter schools are publicly funded but privately run. Few justify the hype they receive in Waiting for “Superman,” and those that do, like the schools featured in the film, are highly selective, privately subsidized schools that have very limited relevance for the public system. It’s like looking for models of public housing by studying luxury condo developments.
The most complete study of charter school performance, by Stanford University, found that only 17 percent of charter schools had better test scores than comparable public schools and more than twice as many did worse. And, unlike charter schools, traditional public schools accept all children, including much larger numbers of high-needs students and students without the heroic, supportive parents seen in the film. In most states charters do not face the same public accountability and transparency requirements that public schools do, which has led to serious problems of mismanagement, corruption, and profiteering.
Charter school teachers are, on average, younger, nonunionized, and less likely to hold state certification than teachers in traditional public schools. In other words: less expensive.
As many as one in four charter school teachers leaves every year, about double the turnover rate in traditional public schools. The odds of a teacher leaving the profession altogether are 130 percent higher at charters than traditional public schools, and much of this teacher attrition is related to dissatisfaction with working conditions.
Charter schools typically pay less and require longer hours. But charter school administrators often earn more than their school district counterparts. Geoffrey Canada of the Harlem Children’s Zone and Eva Moskowitz of the Harlem Success Academy, two schools featured in the film, are each paid close to half a million dollars.
This is not to deny the reform impulse that is a real part of the charter movement. Many times during my 30 years of teaching at my large dysfunctional high school in Paterson, I wanted to start my own school. And many of the issues that public school advocates like myself criticize in charters—like the tracking, creaming, and unequal resources—exist within the public system too. But public schools have federal, state, and district obligations that can be brought to bear. There are school boards, public budgets, public policies, and public officials to pressure and hold accountable in ways that privatized charters don’t allow. In post-Katrina New Orleans, where more than 60 percent of all students now attend unequal tiers of charter schools, there are students and parents who cannot find any schools to take them.
In too many places, charters function more like deregulated “enterprise zones” than models of reform, providing subsidized spaces for a few at the expense of the many. They drain resources, staff, and energy for innovation away from other district schools, often while creaming better prepared students and more committed parents. This is especially a problem in big city public systems that urgently need renewal and resources but are increasingly being left behind with the biggest challenges. Nowhere have charters produced a template for effective districtwide reform or equity.
No one questions the desire of parents to find the best options they can for their children. But at the level of state and federal education policy, charters can provide a reform cover for dismantling the public school system and an investment opportunity for those who see education as a business rather than a fundamental institution of democratic civic life. This doesn’t mean charter school teachers or parents are our enemies. On the contrary, we should be allies in fighting some of the counterproductive assessment, curriculum, and instructional practices raining down on all of us from above. We should find more and better ways to integrate charters into common systems of accountability and support. Where practices like greater autonomy over curriculum or freedom from bureaucratic regulations are valid, they should be extended to all schools.
But any strategy that promotes charter expansion at the expense of systemwide improvement and equity for all schools is a plan for privatization, not reform.
What Are We Fighting For?
It took well over a hundred years to create a public school system that, for all its flaws, provides a free education for all children as a legal right. It took campaigns against child labor, crusades for public taxation, struggles against fear and discrimination directed at immigrants, historic movements for civil rights against legally sanctioned separate and unequal schooling, movements for equal rights and educational access for women, and in more recent decades sustained drives for the rights of special education students, gay and lesbian students, bilingual students, and Native American students. These campaigns are all unfinished and the gains they’ve made are uneven and fragile. But they have made public schools one of the last places where an increasingly diverse and divided population still comes together for a common civic purpose.
But the system’s Achilles’ heel continues to be acute racial and class inequality, which in fact is the Achilles’ heel of the whole society.
Those who believe that business models and market reforms hold the key to solving educational problems have, as noted, made strides in attaching their agenda to the urgent need of communities that have been poorly served by the current system. But their agenda does not represent the real interests or the real desires of these communities:
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It does not include all children and all families.
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It does not include adequate, equitable, and sustainable funding.
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It does not include transparent public accountability.
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It does not include the supports and reforms that educators need to do their jobs well.
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It does not address the legacy or the current realities of race and class inequality that surround our schools every day.
Where we go from here, as advocates and activists for social justice, depends in part on our ability to reinvent and articulate this missing equity agenda and to build a reform movement that can provide effective, credible alternatives to the strategies that are currently being imposed from above.
Because, in the final analysis, what we need to reclaim is not just our schools, but our political process, our public policy-making machinery, and control over our economic and social future. In short, we don’t only need to fix our schools, we also need to fix our democracy.
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Show AllI used to be a promoter of charter schools, since I tend to be pro-capitalism. But after seeing what a 'bang up job' healthcare insurance companies did with their privatization push from the 1980s, I'm less optimistic. The profit motive is not above getting its profits from its customers, and will especially lean that way if they are in some way unable to complain. Sick people are, clearly, not in a good position to 'shop around' for better healthcare, and children are little better. The simplest way for a charter school to make profit is to teach to the examination, and send the little bugger home. And I heartily believe that any truly profit-oriented charter school will eventually go there. Public schools sometimes do a bad job of teaching: in charter schools, doing a bad job will be a job requirement, in the service of Almightly profit. And children are hardly in a good place to complain about the shortcomings of their education. So the system is begging to see the same kinds of abuses our morally and financially bankrupt healthcare system has seen: customers being left behind, or overcharged, and having little recourse but to accept sloppy service in the name of some concept called the 'free market'.
The issues are, imo:
- Extreme educational pressure on children from the mass media that schools simply cannot compete with (with a research and organisational backing that's incomparable to what education has) - this is the single most important reason. No teacher, no matter how good, can compete with advertisements, TV shows and video games, which have a much more limited, easy to achieve goal which can be achieved if you make children stupider. This is imo by far the most important one. I may be a maniac, but teachers and parents simply have much smaller pedagogical power now than advertising and mass media in general.
- Lack of money in public education (most probably deliberate)
- Selection and career of teachers, which might in the long term destroy teaching as a traditional profession in the way that "farming" as a profession is being destroyed (not completely of course, but teaching cannot be self sufficient, unlike farming, so it's in a much bigger danger)
- The general push for education to serve the needs of industry ("flexible labour market") and nothing else, not even by accident.
That's all, imo. It's about repurposing education, making it to serve only industry; this is done by 1) disempowering it by forcing it to compete with intellectually destructive mass entertainment; 2) taking away its human foundation by turning teachers into educational assistants; and 3) directly taking resources away from any possible alternative solution.
My cousin successfully "Home Schooled" her son. He completed his high school courses at 16 and graduated from college at 20. He now has a good job.
He origanally went to a public school, but the principal said that he was "Attention Deficient" and had to take ritalin. My cousin said "Uh Uh" and looked for other alternatives. Home schooling was the best.
No, it isn't for everyone, but it is worth looking into and can be rewarding.
The only problem with this is that schools should be about more, much, much more than just getting education to get a good job, and the other children in the classroom are (should be) a vital part of that :-( It's a shame that home schooling does (sometimes) make sense imo.
Right off, a home-schooled child generally has more involved parents. That's especially true if the reason they are home-schooling is for the childs development, and not for some beliefs of their own. Sounds like your cousin was forced to take action, and took the right action. My sister home-schooled her kids because of her belief-system; they are now in a Christian charter school. I think they are well-educated and well-mannered, so it worked for her. As the Standford study suggests, thats not always true.
Generally speaking, we only hear about the home-schooled kids who succeed. For reasons that are not important, three or four times a month I run into people who home-school their kids, who should not be doing it. Many don't speak English correctly (I am talking about native mid-westerners, not Latino immigrants), so their kids don't either. Many do it for religious reasons - they don't want to have their kids corrupted by non-religious concepts. That is fine if they want their kids to end up as clones of themselves. That is not something I would choose if I had any kids.
The real problem is that we don't hear about the failures.
I think teachers have the worst public relations of any professional group. It doesn't matter union or non-union or what grade they teach. The only thing we hear are complaints about wages and benefits. Even though many teachers want what is best for their students, that massage is not carried by major news outlets.
Teachers come across as a greedy bunch.
"Public Relations" are absolutely antithetical to pedagogy. If you know what "teaching" is, you simply can't take manipulation and lies, which is PR, seriously. And the reason for hearing all this bullshit is imo not because teachers have "bad PR" but because people who want to destroy public schooling (and pedagogy in general, in favour of the PR approach btw) have very good PR. The suggestion of teachers' "greed" comes from nowhere else but the exact centre of greed in society.
In the main, teachers are not a greedy bunch, but they are naive, naive enough to allow themselves to be represented by a reptile like Randi Weingarten.
Please explain your characterization of Randi Weingarten.
A reptile, a creeping or crawling animal, specifically an animal belonging to the class Reptilia (according to the Unabridged OED).
I agree that as a group we have never been successful in the PR arena. I disagree, however, that we are behind the greediness image. There is a concerted propaganda campaign in full swing against us to characterize us in this manner. We are stereotyped and demonized because it serves the privatization agenda. Once we are marginalized and our schools are defunded, our irrelevance and powerlessness will be complete.
As a former teacher, I wonder who is bringing up this "wages and benefits" issue. The problem might not be teachers lacking skills in PR but a nasty media climate that seeks to play up how much of "your money" is being wasted in schools. I only know Michigan and Oregon and those two states provide quite a contrast. In Michigan there is a generally favorable attitude towards teachers, schools, and expenditures made for schools. In Oregon--not so much. I suspect in countries like Finland, people are not constantly bitching about teacher's salaries--nor in Japan. It's all about the feelings people have towards public education, not how teachers present themselves publicly.
As a veteran elementary teacher of twenty years, I can say with certainty that Stan Karp is right on in this article.
Whatever problems we face in public schools, and there is a huge supply of them, we should be addressing those and fixing them. Smaller classes, better teacher mentoring, focus on things that matter rather than test scores, more bottom-up curriculum, less top-heavy administrations, and eliminating the noise from those who know nothing or have ulterior motives would be good starts.
I am not a veteran teacher, just a parent. But I too think Stan Karp's article is excellent.
Different places and different reasons but much of the funding is coming
from the Koch Brothers. What to do is to cut off their money supply:
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•Vanity Fair
•Quilted Northern
•Angel Soft
•Sparkle
•Brawny
•Mardi Gras
•Dixie
Excellent article! Hits the important points. Corrects corporate media bias.
Continue voting out conservative Democrats. We took out 60 Blue Dogs and are taking back our Party, the one that supports teachers.
In the other countries to which we are adversely compared, there are no charter schools, no home schooling. Home schooling is actually illegal in Germany and does not exist in Finland, a high scoring country.
Home schooling is only possible for a small fraction of Americans. In most families, both parents have to work, in single parent households, home schooling is out of the question unless the parent happens to be a lottery winner. We only hear about the home schooling success stories, ever notice that. We never hear about the home schooling disaster stories. Gee, I guess all home schoolers are the best teachers ever. Who would know, who evaluates them? But on the other hand, home schooling has a great teacher to pupil ratio. The media only trumpets the charter school success stories and the politicians are always visiting the good charter schools, the charter failures are ignored; according to Diane Ravitch, recent studies show that there are more charter failures than there are good ones. On average, charter schools do no better than the traditional public schools.
The U.S. public school system may provide a "free education to all". But except for a lucky few -due to local efforts- that education is a sh** education.
I mean from beginning to end, kindergarten to the average bachelor's and master's degree.
I'd leave out kindergarten but it is run by the same folks who screw up Grade School, so it stays in. I do leave out Phd's because that isn't really "education" but early academic career work.
Public Education is broken and we need to stop attempting to tape it together while other's are smashing it with a sledgehammer!
Don't get me wrong. I firmly believe in Education as both a social Right and a deeply important need for any decent society and especially a democratic republic. Meaning, everyone should have access to education, and this should be guaranteed by using the public purse to foot the bill.
But the current system -AND concepts underlying it- is complete junk and we should just let the greedheads rile the idiots up to destroy it. Once we are no longer wasting our time and effort "fixing" or "defending" the current model, we will be able to build a new one and implement it.
The first question we need to ask ourselves is:
"How DO those countries that always top the education lists run things?"
The second being:
"How do we adapt such models to our own society?"
-matti.
Finland and Singapore always do well on assessments, but their schools emerge from different societies. American kids are poorer than kids from those countries, less likely to respect learning, and much more diverse, both ethnically and racially. I do not think our goal should be to outcompete other children, but to give all of our children the opportunity to achieve according to his/her abilities and interests. That might mean a magnet school in science and math or the arts, English as a Second Language for those who need it, technology in the form of internet connections for others, and special classes for both the learning disabled and for the academically talented. The goal should not be to make all our students above average in the words of Garrison Keilor but to provide them with the means to happy and successful lives.
"American kids are poorer than kids from those countries, less likely to respect learning, and much more diverse, both ethnically and racially"
I don't know about Singapore, but in Finland the income distribution is nearly flat. Not entirely flat, but the incredible difference that exists in this country between the rich and the poor would astonish them. In addition, they pay much higher taxes than we do, but they get social services for their money.
There probably are poor people in Finland, but not to the extent we have them. So yes, the cultures are different, and until the cultural matters are addressed, we are not going to be able to do much about educational matters. Why should kids in school care, if they know they have no future?
matti, I thoroughly agree with you. Fix the US Public Schools is as Easy as Apple Pie. It's Already been fixed - in Finland. Simply COPY the Finnish Public School System all the way. That's K-12 AND College. There, done, fixed.
Aha!
Like flies in the web, I have trapped you. ;)
Many educated in the U.S public system may not realize, but "Matti" is the Finnish way of saying "Matthew". I am Finnish-American (in part, we're all mutts here, eh?) and have traveled to Finland and have become quite an admirer of their society. You have grasped my point fully "I came, saw, and conquered".
We don't need to reinvent the wheel OR patch up the pathetic wooden polygon that we have been rolling on until now. We just need to see other people's wheels, realize the superiority of them, and adapt them to our needs.
Whether we should just copy the Finnish system or deal with the situation in a more nuanced manner I will leave to others because of my obvious prejudice.
That being said...
We should just copy the Finnish system. :)
-matti.
Matti,
Your comments could be misconstrued as elitist/predjudiced. Part of the problem with "just copy the Finnish system or deal with the situation in a more nuanced manner" is that every country/culture/society has its own reasons and methods for public education. To ignore/deny the historical (and current) background differences between Finland and the USA does not acknowledge the complexities that "education" poses for each country/culture/society.
The author cogently explains ". . .These campaigns are all unfinished and the gains they’ve made are uneven and fragile. But they have made public schools one of the last places where an increasingly diverse and divided population still comes together for a common civic purpose.
But the system’s Achilles’ heel continues to be acute racial and class inequality, which in fact is the Achilles’ heel of the whole society." Only when our country addresses the above two issues, which from your earlier posts are not considerations (or at least nowhere near as large of considerations) in Finland will we be able to have a more "Finnish" system.
OYE
Thanks for your post. Finland has a population of--what, Chicago?--and most Finns are, well, Finnish. America is not just Finland times a hundred. It is made up of Mormons, persons influenced by Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Hmong backgrounds, American Indians, urban and rural blacks, Jews, Poles, Catholics and Buddhists, Hispanics...It is more diverse than Finland, by far. You cannot just transplant one system to another--not without paying attention to cultural differences. Posters who are so captivated by Finland's system have not responded to my statement that getting American students to perform at higher levels than the rest of the world's children is not a worthy goal for our educational system. Apparently, they are still stuck in the competitive meme that Obama, Bush, and most political leaders in the US constantly repeat.
Drosera,
You are correct in stating that attempting to get "American students to perform at higher levels than the rest of the world's children is not a worthy goal for our educational system. Apparently, they are still stuck in the competitive meme that Obama, Bush, and most political leaders in the US constantly repeat." And I noticed the author, unfortunately, does use some of the language/meme's of those seeking to destroy public education that are "constantly repeated"
I am sorry matti.
But once the "greedheads rile up the idiots to destroy it" as you put it, then parents, teachers, and other members of our communities will no longer "control" education in any sense of that word.
That means that the first thing we will need to do - after we do find good examples in some other country or some other part of this country or simply figure out for ourselves how do run things - will be to regain some "control" over education which will mean taking control back from corporations.
Billionaire investors know as much about education as, uh, I don't know - former high school english teachers know about economics.
Give me a break.
If someone made as much as 60% of the combined teaching force, then their taxes probably paid for about 10-15% of those salaries. Imagine that, ONE person paid the salaries of 1000s of teachers, yet not only are they "the bad guy", but you want them to give more.
I think it's the teachers that need an education.
"Imagine that, ONE person. . . " sucked off the wealth/labor of so many others that he has so much that one person couldn't spend it in a 1000 lifetimes. Who is the greedy bad guy in that situation. I think you have been totally propagandized. Come out of the fog that you are in and understand what goes on in the real world.
I can tell you that as a current high school teacher I know more of economics (as I have made a concerted effort to learn about that field of study) than Gates/Koch et al know about teaching.
OYE
Touché !
These Billionaire investors probably hide their income oversees so that they don't have to pay any taxes. GE for example paid $0 last year in income tax. Actually they received a little over $3 billion in federal benefits from the actual tax payers so I guess they actually paid a negative amount. Stupid teachers pay all of their taxes. What losers we are.
"we don’t only need to fix our schools, we also need to fix our democracy"
There was another article here recently with a title something like "more than a class war", implying that we also have a gender war going on.
These authors are assuming we have separate problems that may add together. But this ultimately leads to division on the left, small groups pursuing their pet causes, and failing to join together to face down the elites, our oppressors.
If we first fix our democracy, that is we put the people in charge of their own destinies, in charge of industrial production, and in charge of public policy, as opposed to elites in charge, then all other problems will be solved. It's very simple.
But these authors are toeing the predatory-elite line, inadvertently or not. By mixing up our priorities and distracting our focus, they are keeping us down by keeping us distracted from what we have to do: March on Washing-town and torch and pitchfork elite control of production/policy.
It's crucially important to frame each of the symptoms of the core problem as just that: symptoms of a core problem that itself must be addressed, directly, and wholly.
It's true.
So many people don't get what Hedges pens here: Civil Disobedience is all we have left.
There are endless "issues" for which "solutions" are discussed equally endlessly on the media--
But it's all a complete distraction from the reality.
The only issue anymore is this:
We have no power at all in the political system.
None.
Whatsoever.
Citizens' United guaranteed that the deepest pockets (corporations/government) will control elections wherever they see fit. We are witnessing the opening volleys in a worldwide corporate war.
Bush and Obama have ensured that any troublemakers can be whisked away forever, enslaved, tortured, killed, rendered for parts--
No vote. No habeas corpus.
Any protest will have arrests and disappearances to discourage protesting, but they can't hold all of us if we act in large enough numbers.
But they will try. And the media will serve up whatever lies and distractions it can conjure.
The United States is about to pass through a crucible, and it will emerge either purified--
Or with a final fusing of corporations and the state.
I don't have time to wait until the public schools are fixed. My kids will be grown and gone by then.
My husband and I have graduated three boys through homeschooling. We have five more children to go. The three oldest have gone to college and are gainfully employed. The next two that are in high school, surpass their peers on achievement tests. (Not that our family measures success on how well our kids test.) The last three are in grade school and preschool. All three are at or above grade level. I don't need to test them to see the results, I am with them everyday.
We live on one income and have for the past 22 years. We are neither in debt or live above our means. I don't believe that we are extraordinary people. I know many families that sacrifice the extra income in order to stay home and raise their own children.
The same people who don't think "some parents" should homeschool are the same people who don't think "some people" should be parents.
mom of eight:
Here we go, yet another glowing home schooling testimonial. It's all anecdotal and cannot necessarily be transferred to other families. There are plenty of parents who love their local public schools and their teachers but this is somehow dismissed as irrelevant. Great for you mom of eight but your success does not mean that public schools are bad or failing.
If I understand this correctly, you homeschool your kids K through grade 8 but then send them off to public school for the 4 high school years. Or at least a few of your kids are going to a public high school. Why do you trust the public high schools but not the elementary and middle schools? Don't the high schools deserve some credit for the success of your children going on to college? Oh wait, no credit must ever be given to public schools and to their unionized teachers, that would be against the anti public school script that's be blasted over the media these days.
Is there actual data showing that home schooling is superior to public schools and that home schooled kids outperform public school kids or is it all just anecdotal bullshit.
JerzyJoe, I can see where you misunderstood me. We graduated three from homeschool high school. I have two more children in high school now but they are also educated at home and not through the public school.
Mom of eight, I apologize for my mistake and for jumping to conclusions. You are doing a great job and you are indeed a success story.
I feel that home schooling is not an option for most Americans and many parents do not even want to home school; they do not feel capable nor do they want to be their children's full time teacher in all the subjects. But if a capable parent(s) wants to home school, then by all means go for it.
The schools here in central NJ (South Brunswick, Princeton, West Windsor, Plainsboro) are highly rated, the parents like their schools and the teachers. From the way Christie talks, you would think that all NJ schools are failures and that the teachers are greedy filthy incompetent pigs.
Here's some data for you. http://www.nheri.org/
Mom of eight I think that is wonderful that you were capable and able to home school your children. However I think you are underestimating your own skill and ability in this matter. Something tells me that you are either a great teacher or your children are incredible learners. Probably a combination of both.
That being said everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. Teaching, like most professions, takes ability as well as determination. I have seen people come and go in the teaching profession that were well versed in their area but could not transfer this knowledge to children. I personally gain great satisfaction in fixing mechanical items... or I would if the things I "fixed" ever worked properly afterwards. Luckily I can still teach and I am not forced to make my living as a mechanic.
I want to see a new law that sentences every journalist or politician who says or writes "our failing public schools" to spend a day in a classroom.
Do you mean "to spend a day 'teaching' in a classroom"?
If so, I would say "to spend a week teaching in a classroom" to get a better feel for what it takes to teach every day.
OYE
The 'failure' of Public Education can also be attributed to the low estimation of the profession by most U.S. citizens. In a society which judges value according to price, little respect is given to educators, who are grossly underpaid considering the amount of education they are expected to receive in order to enter the field and, once hired, for endless hours spent in preparation, planning and evaluation, participation in meetings, extra-curricular activities, individual student interventions, etc. etc.etc. This lack of respect has resulted in the debacle we now witness, where non-educators feel entitled to add their pound of criticism and 'easy' solutions to a very complex societal problem.
Stan, teachers are too uninformed to fight. As a group they have no concept of the challenge they face. Wisconsin was a disaster because they did not fight. No guts no glory. The comments in this article are old news. This could have been written five or ten years ago. Where were the teachers then? Where are they now? The NEA and AFT are surrendering tenure, the one thing that will guarantee freedom of speech for teachers. Teachers are both ignorant and weak. Why should anyone stand up for them when they cannot even stand up for themselves. If you think demonstrations or written words are adequate to beat back Fascism, prepare for the worst because it's already in your face. I really dislike saying this but thus far teachers have proven that women are the weaker sex. Teachers brought this upon themselves by not fighting sooner are hard enough. Their leadership is pathetic. I expect to see them raise a little ruckus and then wave the white flag. I have seen NOTHING in the past or present that allows me to conclude otherwise. I believe they have already surrendered and did so long ago. I wish it were otherwise but I cannot arrive at any other conclusion. BTW, I lost a teaching job long ago because I stood up and fought when no one else would.
Stone, you are correct, teachers are uninformed politically in regards to the conscious, organized attacks on public education. You state that Stan's "comments in this article are old news." What exactly to you think Stan is attempting to do? How do you suggest we inform teachers of these issues?
I would suggest that most teachers are apolitical at best. IAnd therefore, they are representative of most of our middle class: if they are not directly affected by policies intended to benefit a small, elite minority at the cost of many, they don't bother to pay attention or do anything about it. Teachers are just awakening to these issues. It extremely important that people like Stan continue to write, publicize, and educate.
Mark, I applaud teacher efforts. I have no quarrel with Stan other than I believe he is too late. I sincerely hope he is not, but I do believe he is. I have tried to think as far ahead on this issue as I can.but I cannot see a different outcome. The forces allied against teachers are fearsome. I do not see teachers unifying in adequate numbers to beat back the challenge of privatization. The ideas of individualism and competition are too firmly engrained in their minds. Cooperation and unity (solidarity) are foreign ideas to too many teachers. Teachers are divided. Where I live there are two state teacher organizations, the MSTA a conservative teacher group, and the MNEA a liberal teacher group. What chance do they have of unifying in solidarity? None as far as I can see. Unless something changes I can find no flame of hope. I wish I could.
Can't disagree much with your and Mark's comments as they are pretty much on the mark (no pun intended). But I have emailed my school's teachers with a copy of this article. And we have teachers that complain that I send too many "political" articles, even though every article I send deals with public education.
Stone wrote (in reply to mark lowe):
"Cooperation and unity (solidarity) are foreign ideas to too many teachers. Teachers are divided. Where I live there are two state teacher organizations, the MSTA a conservative teacher group, and the MNEA a liberal teacher group. What chance do they have of unifying in solidarity? "
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My Comment:
Good point! But isn't this also a problem for the working class as a whole?
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mark lowe wrote (in reply to Stone):
"I would suggest that most teachers are apolitical at best. IAnd therefore, they are representative of most of our middle class: if they are not directly affected by policies intended to benefit a small, elite minority at the cost of many, they don't bother to pay attention or do anything about it. Teachers are just awakening to these issues. It extremely important that people like Stan continue to write, publicize, and educate."
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My Comment:
When you add the mortgage crisis including robo-signing, the financial meltdown and massive bailouts involving a transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich, high unemployment, tax breaks for the wealthy, the increasing poverty rate, and increasing disparates in income and wealth to the attack on public education and the attack on the collective bargaining rights of teachers and other public workers, there are a lot more people in the working class (of which the middle class is just a shrinking but more affluent part) who know that there is a class war going on and that they are being screwed.
Stone wrote (presumably addressed to Stan Karp):
"Stan, teachers are too uninformed to fight. As a group they have no concept of the challenge they face. Wisconsin was a disaster because they did not fight. No guts no glory. The comments in this article are old news. This could have been written five or ten years ago. Where were the teachers then? Where are they now? The NEA and AFT are surrendering tenure, the one thing that will guarantee freedom of speech for teachers. Teachers are both ignorant and weak. Why sho"uld anyone stand up for them when they cannot even stand up for themselves."
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My Reply:
Why single out teachers?
And where were the parents during this time?
Seems to me that most of the working class, both men and women, have been too uninformed and / or were just trying to survive and / or have been too uninspired and / or were not mad enough to fight hard enough for the last 40 years or more.
By the way you are not the only one who has had the experience of being ahead of your time,
But this time, the times they are a changing, all over the world!
"It’s whether the right to a free public education for all children is going to survive as a fundamental democratic promise in our society, and whether the schools and districts needed to provide it are going to survive as public institutions, collectively owned and democratically managed—however imperfectly—by all of us as citizens. Or will they be privatized and commercialized by the corporate interests that increasingly dominate all aspects of our society?"
This statement is the crux of our (public educators, parents and students) problem with the attacks on education. It needs to be reiterated that this is THE problem and anything (especially privitization) that takes away from ALL students being able to be "educated" as well and as "far" as they can be is wrong.
OYE