One big problem with any kind of action in Ohio: your typical Buckeye is a fucktard. He likes beer, Fox 'News', American A-Hole, and reruns. In that order. I don't know about the northern half of the state, but the southern half would be a good place for a nuclear accident.

Unfortunately, the Democrat-Unions may lose this fight also if massive corporate money is deployed to sway the uninformed who consistently vote against their own best interests. Since Reagan broke the air controllers, the Dems have lost every fight. Even with a massive voter mandate, congressional majorities, and the presidency, Obama and the Democratic party displayed no stomach for delivering the promised change which swept them into office. Since they were outsmarted by the GOP Gore-Bush SCOTUS "election/coup", the Democrat party has been handed their hats and shown the door on every major reform issue. Instead of change the majority of the American people's hopes and wishes were ignored in favor of humiliating "compromise". The halls of the capitol echo with the hollow voices of the few urging that the Democrats show some spine. The debacle in Wisconsin is just the latest in a long line of political failure engineered by the GOP and their corporate financiers. All of this goes to show that there is no one capable of standing against the economic tsunami engulfing the working class in America. The Dems can't or won't fight. By design or accident they are always on the defensive, unable to deal with the tidal waves of lies spread by their so-called political opponents and their enablers in the media. The corporate agenda remains what it has always been since FDR...reduce wages, destroy the middle class, remove regulation, and place the majority of working Americans at their mercy, by eliminating jobs or shipping them overseas. Corporations control the means of generating the fear necessary for total control of the masses whom the elites themselves still fear because of their sheer numbers. The people have the power, but they are too afraid and disorganized to use it. Until that happens, the more things "change" the more they remain the same...or worse.

It's funny how Americans vote for their own enslavement. With Republican majorities in Ohio and Wisconsin, we must assume that a majority of the middle and working class voted for these corporate shills. All corporations want more taxes levied against the citizenry, while removing any taxes and regulations against the corporation. When the people vote for the Tea Party, Republicans and unfortunately most Democrats, they vote against themselves.
Because a corporation doesn't feel empathy for human beings and because it is only concerned with maximizing profits, slavery is the ultimate goal in achieving maximum efficiency. However most Americans are unable to grasp this simple connection due to the onslaught of misinformation that a corporate media churns out 24-7. For a true democracy to function properly, strong regulations with equally strong enforcement of those regulations are required to prevent a handful of powerful people from exercising too much control in the society. In the United States though, the citizenry by in large have embraced the Milton Friedman ideology that wealth and greed should be admired rather than vilified. The result has been the most unequal society on earth (the U.S.) while dozens of poorer, developed countries have populations that live far better than most Americans do.
I'm afraid that by the time most Americans realize that a government by the people and for the people is their only protection, the enslavement of the populace will be universal. Tax the rich, dismantle the military, introduce single-payer healthcare and encourage the unionization of all workers in America or else accept the corporate fait accompli.

I don't think that guys like Scott Walker give a damn if they're recalled. He's got a job waiting for him somewhere and the Koch brothers will show him a good time when he's done.

The bank run is a good place to start. I think that a couple days of general strikes are in order to hit them where it counts. France knows how to deal with shit like this. It sucks, but cancers have to be treated before they metastasize. Putting all of our energy into electing Democrats is a waste of time when shills like Obama turn their back on unions whenever politically expedient.

Too many people fought and died for the right to collective bargaining for some millionaire asshole to wipe it away with a pen stroke.

What is the difference between initiative and referendum?

Types of referendum and initiative include:

* Referendum - The legislature refers a piece of legislation to the people to either approve or reject it by vote.
o Compulsory referendum - Typically new constitutions must be submitted to the people for approval before they are considered ratified. Some states also require that bond measures be approved by referendum.
o Voluntary referendum - The legislature may, at their option, refer a piece of legislation to the people.
o Popular referendum - The people may challenge a law recently passed by the legislature. If enough signatures are gathered, the law will be put to a vote by the people who may vote to nullify the law.
* Initiative - Citizens draft a proposed law
o Indirect initiative - Citizens draft a proposed law and present it to the legislature. The legislature may adopt it outright. Otherwise, the proposal goes on the ballot, sometimes with a counterproposal designed by the legislature.
o Direct initiative - Citizens draft a proposed law and it goes on the ballot.

http://ni4d.us/en/faq

General strike? I'm Boycotting things Koch now - should I extend that to the stores that carry their products?

OHIO, isn't this the state that has an eighth district that voted in Boehner, speaker of the house? What a useless prick. I cannot believe you people voted all those lying bastard Republicans into office. Well we all make mistakes. Taking away the right to speak as a group is not only un-american but it is unconstitutional. I do hope the best for all you people in Ohio, the Republican lying bastards are after all of us, They want the United States of Corporation or Wall Street or just plain money. Fox news lies, where are the jobs Republicans?

I am hearing that a general strike is being called across the country for March 31.

Greed knows no limits. Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. No cooective bargaining for kindergarten teachers.

Michelle Chen may be a well meaning liberal, but using language of the right and Fox News as in “This means Democrats cannot hold up the voting process by going AWOL, as they did in Wisconsin,” does injury to labor just as harmful as Fox News.
No Senator was “Absent With Out Leave” (AWOL). In fact it was these Senators’ right and obligation to do what was necessary to represent their constituents.

And yes, in fact those who spoke that way and tried to have the Police abduct these Senators were involved in a conspiracy to commit a crime.

Second and yet of primary importance, one cannot legislate away a right. Thus the right to collectively bargain will continue regardless of what these legislatures and governors do.
These legislatures are legislating rules for their governments, as was the case of the1959 Wisconsin Employment Peace Act, in order to make collective bargaining less painful for the government and labor.

An injury to one is an injury to all.