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Glenn Beck's Dangerous Obsession With Frances Fox Piven
In addition to his repeated murder fantasies, Glenn Beck harbors apocalyptic fantasies of mass death--suggesting, for instance, that if the direction of the country doesn't change, "God will wash this nation with blood." (Barack Obama, are you listening?) But the Fox News host harbors many deranged obsessions.
He has long obsessed over Frances Fox Piven, the 78-year-old distinguished professor at the City University of New York. Central to Beck's lies about Piven is the charge that a Nation article she co-wrote with Richard Cloward in 1966 somehow holds the blueprint for a violent leftist takeover of the United States. Beck's similar fascination with the supposed threat posed by the Tides Foundation apparently led one of his fans to attempt an armed assault on the organization (FAIR Blog, 7/22/10).
Beck's supposed anti-violence pledge, issued in the wake of the Tucson massacre, contains a bizarre equation of Piven with a violent paramilitary cult under indictment for plotting the wholesale murder of police officers:
I denounce violent threats and calls for the destruction of our system--regardless of their underlying ideology--whether they come from the Hutaree Militia or Frances Fox Piven.
Needless to say, equating Piven's advocacy of grassroots democratic political activism with terrorism-based revolution is hardly an effective way to discourage violence. Unsurprisingly, some Beck followers have taken his demented fulminations a step further, posting death threats against Piven in the comment section of his website, the Blaze. As Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman recounted on her January 14 program:
On December 31, Glenn Beck’s website, the Blaze, published an article titled "Frances Fox Piven Rings in the New Year by Calling for Violent Revolution." In response to that article, several readers posted direct death threats to Piven. A user named JST1425 wrote, quote, "Be very careful what you ask for, honey.... As I mentioned in previous posts...ONE SHOT...ONE KILL! 'We the People' will need to stand up for what is right.... A few well-placed marksmen with high-powered rifles.... Then there would not be any violence," unquote.
User name SUPERWRENCH4 wrote, quote, "Somebody tell Frances I have 5000 roundas [sic] ready and I'll give My life to take Our freedom back. Taking Her life and any who would enslave My children and grandchildren and call for violence should meet their demise as They wish. George Washington didn't use His freedom of speech to defeat the British, He shot them," unquote.
Another reader wrote on Glenn Beck's website, quote, "We should blowup Piven's office and home. And while at it. Keel haul Bernardine Dohrn under one of her freedom ships and blow up Bill Ayers' house cars and anywhere he can be found," unquote.
And a user who goes by the name GREEN_MANALISHI wrote, quote, "I'm all for violence and change Francis, where do your loved ones live?" unquote.Despite the overt threats, Glenn Beck has not removed any of the messages from his site, even though readers of the Blaze are encouraged to highlight troublesome posts.
In Tucson last week, shooting victim James Eric Fuller was arrested after exclaiming "you're dead" to a Tea Party activist who was criticizing gun control at a post-massacre forum. So apparently the laws against making violent threats still apply to some people.
UPDATE: Last June (6/10), Glenn Beck's demonization of progressives took an eliminationist turn when he told his Fox News audience that "radicals"-- he named Code Pink's Jody Evans, environmental and civil rights activist Van Jones, University of Wisconsin professor Joel Rogers, progressive strategist Jeff Jones and labor leader Andy Stern--ought to be "shot in the head" by Democrats instead of being courted by them.
Addressing Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, about American "radicals" and "revolutionaries," Beck said:
You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.
They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them--they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.
Here is my advice when you're dealing with people who believe in something that strongly--you take them seriously. You listen to their words and you believe that they will follow up with what they say.
Of course, there is no danger that Pelosi or other Democratic leaders will take Beck's demented words to heart. The danger is that Beck devotees are being told by their hero that these dangerous progressives, who may be homicidal themselves, are worthy of assassination. It wouldn't be the first or second time a Beck devotee took murderous action.
Note that Beck's words were in dead earnest. Without a hint of irony, Time magazine's civility panelist called for Democrats to assassinate American political activists.
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Show AllCan't Piven sue Beck for defamation or libel? This Beck character is out of control. Some of his comments seem like incitement.
"Some of his comments seem like incitement."
There's no "seem" about them; they are. If Beck said the same things in Venezuela about **any** person, he would be arrested, which serves to show the great difference in civility between the Mad Empire and one of the many nations opposing it.
Piven was on with amy goodman about a week ago, discussing glenn beck's obsession whith her. Amy had her on for that purpose. Piven didn't care all that much about it. She thought it was bizarre.
If he said, I love Hamas, then off to the gulag.
Becks another corporate henchman as is Oilybomber.
If Olbermann had used such words, he would have been kicked from the airways years ago.
The Right has figured out that the best way to fight progressive thought is to identify and then appropriate compelling leftist arguments and ideas and then implement an "equivalent" campaign to show that it was, for example, Piven's ideas, not Milton Friedman's, that caused the economic collapse. The Right knows how compelling Naomi Klein's argument was in "The Shock Doctrine" and had to come up with an "equivalent" response to justify itself. The campaign against the Tides Foundation is a response to the left's compelling case showing the billionaire Koch brothers' underwriting of the foundation that supports the Tea Party, asw well as all the other right wing think tanks that have been so successful in bringing us to the disasters we face today. This tactic helps to create the illusion that there is some kind of equivalency. If the Left complains about the Heritage Foundation, for example, well, what about the Tides Foundation? There is never a substantive discussion of real issues, of course, only the crudest categories: "foundations," "intellectuals or thinkers," etc.
The Piven article, for example, was an effort to deal with poverty. Let everyone eligible for state assistance apply, then let the economy crumble as a result. Whatever you may think of this tactic, the problem of poverty in the US continues. Let Beck figure out a solution to poverty that doesn't fly in the face of his rich underwriters interests. Does anyone think that the implementation of Piven's ideas was responsible for the implosion of the U.S. economy? It was the implemenation of Friedman's ideas: unregulated and rampant capitalism, that brought us to this mess.
Excellent comment. And please remember, Friedman maintained that the social responsibility of CEOs (i.e. business) is to increase profits. But he wasn't all bad. He had this to say about the "war on drugs":
The proper role of government is exactly what John Stuart Mill said in the middle of the 19th century in On Liberty. The proper role of government is to prevent other people from harming an individual. Government, he said, never has any right to interfere with an individual for that individual's own good.
The case for prohibiting drugs is exactly as strong and as weak as the case for prohibiting people from overeating. We all know that overeating causes more deaths than drugs do.
Right. Wall Stret sold junk mortgages across the globe, thereby crippling the world economy. The right's moral equivalent: All those poor black people who Fannie and Freddie signed up for mortgages they couldn't qualify for if they were white. They, you see, were really the ones who wrecked the world economy.
Glenn Beck is truly morphing into a psychotic. He is truly dangerous because he REALLY BELIEVES what he is saying.
I worry that there are those out there who will take his words and put them into action (read: Tucson).
I don't know how you know he believes what he is saying. He was a disc jockey in florida before, and i think on msnbc or cnn as well.
In fact, i doubt he cares at all about what he is saying, except that he likes to get attention and make money.
Glenn Beck was a typical Canibis smoking, coke snorting radio personality in the 80's. He love to stire up contention between competing stations and get people made at him to increase his audience.
Demagoguery in America; stronger than ever. The rich tell the poor to turn on each other and tell them to blame the educated ones like Piven, who tried to help them. It's an ancient strategy really that works better than ever in a dumbed-down , semi-literate society.
Yes, your right. This I why I always refer to these corporate hit-men as "hired tongues" (as opposed to "hired guns"). This is living proof that the pen (written and spoken) is mightier then the sword in maintaining the constant stream of propaganda that is necessary in a pseudo democracy. The velvet glove over the steel fist is always the best way to control things.... until that point when a large enough tear appears in the velvet glove then people will see the raw brutality of the steel fist and overt violent repression will take over with massive amounts of societal distress and suffering.
We seem to be coming closer to this unveiling but just what the time line is remains speculation.
Although I agree with you, I don't know that I would place Keith Olberman in the same category as Frances Piven. I think her influence is probably a good bit more substantive than his.
That man has GOT to be taken off the air. If they can remove Dan Rather.... he is a walking hate crime, pure and simple. How can our law enforcement not see that?
Liberal's and Progressive's are being demonized to a sub-human non-christian status, whose presence poses a danger to God fearing American's. That record has been played here before.
I hear that Beck has told his viewers that if he should start sounding less radical that it is code for him being "silenced"...
Maybe that's really secret code for: "I'm losing all of my sponsors, because I'm an ignorant, ranting, baffoon." Just a thought.
Glenn Beck is a victim tripper. He likes to fantasize about nonexistent threats against himself and his followers. Faced with such threats they would be forced, forced to defend themselves -- with violence! And it would all be the other guys' fault. Remember his rant before he had his rally? He talked about a "worst case scenario" where "the new Black Panthers" might come to the rally, they might have guns, they might use them, and then Beck's people would have to defend themselves, and then WHAT? There isn't much to the so-called "New Black Panthers" (except for a name that is useful for fearmongering), they didn't come to the rally, there was no violence against the Beckers, and no need for defense by force. It was all in his head. His anti-Piven fantasies are a similar thing. The professor is about to attack!!
He's playing with his audience's pet fears/hopes and they love it.
This is what is to be expected from someone who, with a straight face, can compare progressives, environmentalists and peace activists to Nazis. It’s either staggering historical ignorance or just plain dishonesty and hate mongering. Neither is good, and either one should disqualify him from access to the airwaves.
It's just more of the same, not that I mean to seem complacent. analyzing a lunatic goes just so far. Time to replay something from The Daily Show...
Glenn Beck, The Manchurian Lunatic Opinion Piece
Jon isn't saying Glenn Beck is a saboteur sent to destroy Fox News, he's merely asking why he's doing George Soros' work for him.
http://www.newslook.com/videos/267657-glenn-beck-the-manchurian-lunatic?autoplay=true