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How Many Dead Arizonians?
The budget crisis in Arizona means the Republican Governor Jan Brewer and her Republican legislature have decided some death is preferable to more debt. Human life has a very measureable price in Arizona, and those who look the other way as folks who might be saved die in Arizona can expect the same to come to their states sometime soon.
Many Republicans like to frame themselves as the party that protects human life from the moment of conception, no matter what. Many Democrats like to frame themselves as the party that protects the downtrodden and the working class folks.
So, where are any of these people when the sick in Arizona are preparing to die?
Here's one take on the news stories of recent days:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/
From that report: On Oct. 1, the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System stopped paying for seven types of transplants that the state's GOP governor, Jan Brewer, and GOP-led legislature said they could no longer afford. The state faces a projected $1 billion program deficit by July 2011. They eliminated heart transplants for non-ischemic cardiomyopathy, lung transplants, pancreatic transplants, some bone marrow transplants, and liver transplants for patients infected with hepatitis C. Arizona also restricted coverage of prosthetics, eliminated podiatric services, preventive dental services, and wellness and physical exams for adult Medicaid enrollees" So, we've decided in Arizona that the expendables are to be defined as adult Medicaid enrollees. The poor, often the working poor, are our expendables. I didn't hear anyone cry for them. I didn't hear anyone cry out for them. Two are dead already as they were denied transplants and 96 more are in the queue. And it does not lead the news even among those who advocate for universal healthcare or the public option or the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or repeal or replace or whatever. The dead are expendable to all of us. We fought immigration discrimination in Arizona, but dead poor people are acceptable? Where are the protests? There are no protests today in Arizona because no one we care about is dead yet. If your liver stops working tomorrow, God forbid, do you think your own life is worth saving? Your child's? Your neighbor's? How about a little cancer that needs bone marrow treatment? If we had a progressively financed, single standard of care for all in this nation -- the kind of government protected care that, say, Senator John McCain of Arizona has enjoyed for all but four years of his life, it isn't that every treatment would automatically be covered and appropriate. But those kinds of choices would be determined based on medical necessity and effectiveness rather than being automatically not available to one group of adults -- like these adult Medicaid enrollees in Arizona. This is a travesty and a horror all at once playing out in Arizona. The only question we need ask ourselves is how many dead poor people are acceptable to us? We've finally gotten to the point of watching a bi-partisan killing field played out in full public view, and I don't know if we care enough to act. How many activists have booked their travel for Arizona to hold rallies and chain themselves to the governor's mansion gates or the hospital entrances where the dying have been given their death sentences? How many of Arizona's leaders will step up? Any national leaders? This doesn't bode well for our future ability to transform our healthcare system from one that values money over human life. If we cannot even gather our collective voice and courage to this trauma, we are more desperately selfish and greedy than we have accused those on Wall Street of so boldly displaying. We're just playing at healthcare justice.
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Show AllI will add that they are cutting services in other states right now, as we *speak*, and that are run by Democrats. In Washington State, for example, people have received notices about preventive dentistry and other things mentioned by the article being cut, and Governor Gregoire, in advancing her career by showing what an All-American she is, is now throwing children off the Medicaid roles because they are "illegals."
You wouldn't know they just passed a health care reform bill by the looks of the present. The system is just continuing to get worse.
I keep saying this: Hello? Dems, repugs, it doesn´t matter. The only difference you can hope for when you get one or the other is regarding non-corporate issues. I mean things like abortion or gay rights. Pretty much everything else, including health care, is affected by corporate interests and is not going to change. Where money and power are involved, there is no democracy. I find it frustrating that so many readers of CD identify with Dems and criticise the Repugs. It´s like they still don´t get it. Sorry if I´m hurting anybody´s feelings, but it sure didn´t take long for Obomber to dash all the hopes that we all had for some positive change.
Incidentaly I´m a Canadian. Please forgive me for being so frustrated with you guys. Honest, I have lots of friends that are Americans. I don´t quite remember but I think my health care premiums were somewhere around 650/year. I recently had prostrate surgery and I had to pay about $20.00 extra for some supplies that I needed at home afterwards. Also, I had a choice of Doctors and treatments. I say were about 650 because I now live in Mexico. I am now enrolled with the health care system here. It cost me about $120.00 for a year as I recall.
Ugh, that just makes me sick. I had health insurance last year and was billed $2,000 for my out-of-pocket expenses on an outpatient, minor surgery. It was TEN times more than the cost I was told I could expect.
Please check out this "Democracy Now" interview for one reporter's credible take on the flavor of Arizona politics:
"Tea Party in Sonora": Ken Silverstein of Harper’s Says Arizona is Laboratory for Radical GOP Policies*
* http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/15/tea_party_in_sonora_ken_silverstein
Or: http://bit.ly/9rn71j
"Republican Governor Jan Brewer and her Republican legislature have decided some death is preferable to more debt".
Oh, it goes much, much deeper than that. The goal is the 19th century medical costs and 19th century medicine for the masses. All that high tech stuff with surgery and transplants is so-o-o expensive, don'tcha know? They MAY allow medicare to pay for aspirin but they don't want the government 'saddled' with unwieldy and 'impractical' costs. Babies used to be born in houses, didn't they? Who wants to pay for all those pricey ob-gyns? And an increased mortallity rate among newborns would help the economy by lowering the birth rate, right?
That's how those bastards think.
Of course they reason in their neanderthal brains that the elite can still get high tech medicine because, hey, they 'earned' all their millions to pay for it through hard work on wall street! You know, that place that got bailed out with the tax dollars of the masses. But heaven forbid the tax dollars of the masses be used for the health care of the masses.
FUBAR!
==How many activists have booked their travel for Arizona to hold rallies and chain themselves to the governor's mansion gates or the hospital entrances where the dying have been given their death sentences? How many of Arizona's leaders will step up? Any national leaders?
This doesn't bode well for our future ability to transform our healthcare system from one that values money over human life. If we cannot even gather our collective voice and courage to this trauma, we are more desperately selfish and greedy than we have accused those on Wall Street of so boldly displaying. We're just playing at healthcare justice.==
Donna, this ticks me off, and perhaps also some other colleagues. Perhaps you could benefit from some food for thought so - - here is a smorgasbord.
In some form or other, there has been rationing of =health care= since the prehistorical discovery that extracts of willow and spirea bark -which contain salicylic acid- act as a natural analgesic. When there was just a handful of it, who got some?
As someone who lived in Canada 30 years, and worked in hospitals for 17 of them, I'm aware that each province (10) has its own healthcare system - and not all provinces cover the same medical circumstances and medical procedures. After meeting basic federal standards, it is the right of each province to choose them.
As an exercise, find out the sum total of heart transplant costs in the USA for one year, then imagine that sum of money being available to treat children in Third World countries. Dare we call this =arrogance=?
Here's another - but its simply a Thought Exercise. Brilliant scientists figure out how to attach living heads to recently dead bodies. Hours after the death of some Hollywood Sex Goddess, the head of an extremely wealthy woman is attached - and the gorgeous body reanimates. This leads to widespread street marches by destitute women, angry that their heads were not transplanted to the late Ms. Goddess. "Life is not fair" they chorus.
I recommend to you a longitudinal study completed in Winnipeg, Manitoba. The results of the study were disappointing and medical Canucks don't talk much about it. Researchers followed the health care experience of Winnipeg residents by street blocks, which had a wide disparity of averaged annual income. Although each person received his or her healthcare services from the fine Manitoba UHC, saw the same medical personnel and so forth, common measures of health and longevity did not show serious =leveling of the playing field= between health of the wealthy and the poor. Too many other economic factors impact upon their lives. Yes, it was better than comparable data from the USA.
These comments do not address the Arizona situation specifically.
What these comments say is this: Life is a death sentence. Every living thing dies. Country song lyric: "No matter how we struggle and strive, we never get out of this world alive." So far as we know, the only living organism resenting this verity is H. sapiens who spend their entire lives at two activities: 1) trying to achieve immortality, 2) escaping day-to-day reality by every means possible, even if it causes harm to other living things, and to Earth. Health care reform must be philosophically premised upon this base of human knowledge. Given that - - next.
Trylon
This will be happening across the country soon. It is a matter of economics as state and city economies fail, and file for banckruptcy. The "Build America Bonds" program has lost the federal subsidy that paid 35% of the return on municipal bonds. Large cities will feel it the most. Muni bonds account for 20% of many city budgets. Funds from real estate taxes are down as property values have dropped across the country.
The federal subsidy was omitted from Obama's deal with the Republicans last month. The Republican house will not re-establish the funding as an austerity measure. Many of the larger cities and populous states are democratic.
Things are going to get a lot worse in America before it gets better. Unfortunately public programs like healthcare for the poor will feel it most.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/241172-stay-away-from-muni-bonds
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703296604576005240613153726.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12422021
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-12-23/build-america-bonds-end-poised-to-batter-muni-market.html
What is it about MEDICARE that people do not understand? What is it about paying taxes that people do not understand? What is it about the common good that people do not understand?
You pay taxes to take care of you and your country. You by your collective, constructive and peaceful petitioning of this government, you demand…or tell them, instruct them, where and what your taxes are to be used for.
Do not complain when the rich and mighty in your country choose for you, and you wave the flag and demand war on other countries and peoples. That is why you have nothing, and will continue to have nothing, until you demand that the resources of this country go into taking care of its people.
Do not listen to the pundits, right or left who say there is NOT enough money for our social services or for our infrastructure to be repaired. There is plenty of money to alleviate all the ills in this country. You are just not paying attention. There has been a “blame-game” devised to divert the anger of the American people and it has worked.
Yesterday nineteen people in Arizona paid for it and six people lost their lives, and now one courageous public servant is fighting for her life.
Arizona, land of the cowboy, the rugged individualist. Arizona, where its every man for himself, where a proud citizen would rather die than ask for another's help. Arizona, where every man is a law unto himself and doesn't think he's beholden to any authority especially federal. Welcome to Arizona where all the psychotics are encouraged to act out especially against those subversives who say that men should live in a society where we consider the needs of others, or work together to build a better life for all. Who ever heard of such a thing. Why if any dag nabbit liberal comes in here and says such things he'll pay for it-you'll see.
Arizona, Texas Oklahoma you don't deserve statehood. We let you into the union way too early. I've given up on you. You're too wild to be a part of anything. We should just wall your states off and let you fight among yourselves. Idiots like you don't deserve citizenship and I don't want any of my tax dollars going into your territory.
That summarizes AZ very well. I was thinking of moving to TX on my next job. Some places in TX are okay not like OK or AZ. I'd keep Austin but let the rest of the state go. I was thinking of keeping Dallas but something's not right there.
You're so right and the something that is not right is the little curmudgeon, w with his laura.
I don't see how to evaluate the information in this article without knowing what the survival rate for these non;funded transplants is. What if the survival rate is 0?