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Don't Ask, Don't Care
I also work in an industry - journalism, media and entertainment -- in which men and women of diverse sexual orientation make extraordinary contributions ever day, informing, delighting and annoying audiences of every age, gender, shape and hue. No problem.
Granted, a few members of that audience are bigots and pinheads, probably unaware that their favorite show or song was created by a team of imaginative people with social and personal lives unlike their own. So let's keep them out of this.
Because it's about this gays in the military thing. Listen, Congress. The majority of the people have spoken - as many as 78% of them in a May CNN poll, 50% in a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey. And it's not so much "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," as simply, "Don't Care."
Don't care if homosexual men and women openly serve in the armed forces as long as they do their job and defend their country. Don't care what military men and women and men and men and women and women do in their spare time as long as it doesn't involve minors, criminal activity or abuse. Don't care because it's none of our business.
I knew for sure that public and military opinion were changing on this issue exactly eight years ago, when I was guest lecturing at Austin Peay State University in Clarksville, Tennessee. The school is just down the road from Fort Campbell, home of the 101st Airborne Division, and many of Austin Peay's students are active duty military personnel, veterans and family members.
Keep in mind that not so long ago, at Fort Campbell in 1999, Private First Class Barry Winchell, who had been dating a male-to-female transgender performer he met at a club, was verbally and physically harassed and eventually murdered by another soldier. But just a short time later, the young men and women with whom I spoke seemed fully comfortable with their gay and lesbian friends and comrades-in-arms, far more concerned with the safety of colleagues and loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan than how they behaved when the lights were out. In fact, these students frequently hung out together in gay or straight or transgender bars in nearby Nashville, at ease with their own and each others' sexuality.
But now, despite wide public acceptance, the Senate may strip the repeal of "Don't Ask Don't Tell" from the defense appropriations bill to prevent a filibuster, just part of the continuing spirit of legislative negativity and resistance that denies the reality of everything from nuclear arms proliferation (the START Treaty) to climate change.
It's all so reminiscent of that old Groucho Marx song, "Whatever It Is, I'm Against It." Because the man threatening to filibuster is the Groucho - er, Grouchy - of the United States Senate, the newly reelected John McCain.
As vividly and hilariously illustrated this week by both Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow, the Senior Senator from the State of Cantankerous has shown that he can play a childish game of "Step over that Line" until well past bedtime, even after the bugler blows "Taps." First, he said he'd consider backing repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell if the military's top brass recommended it. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen did just that (as did their commander-in-chief, Barack Obama).
Not good enough, said McCain back in February. Before he'd go along he needed to see a study thoroughly surveying the military point of view.
Questionnaires were sent this summer to 400,000 active and reserve troops and 150,000 military spouses. The results are officially due December 1 but word is out. The November 11 Washington Post reported, "More than 70 percent of respondents to a survey sent to active-duty and reserve troops over the summer said the effect of repealing the ‘don't ask, don't tell' policy would be positive, mixed or nonexistent, said two sources familiar with the document. The survey results led the report's authors to conclude that objections to openly gay colleagues would drop once troops were able to live and serve alongside them."
Still not good enough, McCain said on Sunday's Meet the Press. He wants hearings and another report - this one "to determine the effects of the repeal on battle effectiveness and morale" (despite the fact that the December 1 report apparently does just that).
"McCain has said he wanted to hear from rank-and-file troops," Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese said. "He just heard loud and clear from them through the study. But he doesn't like the answer - and is stonewalling, trying to run out the clock on repeal by calling for congressional hearings."
An old Navy man like you should know when the boat has sailed, Senator McCain. Just this once, forget John Paul Jones and give up the ship. Remember the words of your conservative mentor, the man whose seat you inherited in the Senate, Barry Goldwater. In 1994, he wrote, "The conservative movement is founded on the simple tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
Or, even more succinctly and famously, in a 1993 letter Goldwater wrote to The Washington Post: "You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight."
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23 Comments so far
Show AllThe U.S. needs gays in the military like it needs gays in the Mafia.
The U.S needs gays in the military like Iraq needs the U.S in Iraq...
ok, not as funny but you get it...
They would certainly do less harm if they were in the mafia. This whole argument is just so much bullshit. I fully support gay rights, but for gays arguing that they should be allowed to be killers in imperialism's army is not something progressives should be supporting.
What's this talk about 'defending the country'? Nobody has invaded the US since 1812... When the US declared war on Canada. Sorry, Pearl Harbor doesn't count, because Hawaii is way too far out in the ocean, because America was an invader in Hawaii anyway, and because the Japanese never invaded but only attacked.
9/11 doesn't count either, for too many reasons.
American soldiers do not 'defend'. They invade, occupy, and slaughter.
Also, what's this drivel about gay 'rights'? It's over! The gays won! What more could they want? They want the 'rights' to marry and to be able to join the army while wearing make-up? That's just stupid. I say ban marriage and the army... Then we'd all be equal...
It doesn't matter if the gays are in the army or if they can marry. The gay issue is a manufactured issue. The ruling powers like to create these ridiculous issues to waste activists' time and energy.
The 'gays in the army' farce is particularly annoying. The country is falling apart and people are arguing about gays in the army... Insanity is the norm in our times.
Aren't U.S. troops still being forced to stay in the military and submit to constant redeployments?
Once the poor, foolish kids see what life as cannon fodder is really like, it is extremely difficult for them to get out of the U.S. military.
We need to keep DADT, or even impose an outright prohibition on gays in the military, to preserve this escape route for all of the kids who are being tricked into "volunteering" to kill and be killed.
As a gay man who avoided the draft back in the early 60s I agree with those who think that gays should stay out of the military now that it is voluntary. I think all young people should be given honest information and make up their own minds. But the harassment of gays in the military should stop, and immediately! Why should gays suffer more than their straight counterparts?
Wouldn't it be better to just discriminate against anyone against serving in the military so that there will be fewer people serving and they too will protest and come home after the military can no longer hold up? I don't believe in discrimination of any kind but don't we need to close the doors to military recruitment and wouldn't discrimination work in that favor?
One more liberal addressing that great moral issue of our time. Forget torture, endless murder of civilians, destruction of the nation of Iraq, wars extending into Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and maybe even a full scale attack on Iran soon, Forget a shredded Constitution and Bill of Rights in a rapidly developing police state. The great issue is whether GLBT people can join in all the fun and thus have their full "freedom, liberation and equality".
A prediction. With modern high tech weaponry, military personnel can sit in a room in the US and operate deadly drone attacks on the hapless farmers and peasants on the opposite side of the world. So why should ordinary families including children be discriminated against and excluded from all the fun of endless wars of empire. Many US children are adept at playing the many video games, so it will be just a small step to wire up Mr. and Mrs. Patriotic Amerika to drone control technology right in their comfy living room. Then we can end this vile and unspeakable discrimination against children being full and equal partners in the US global military slaughter machine. The Pentagon could operate a lottery to chose just which lucky US family would get to "serve their country" on their lucky day. "Oh look, Daddy, Jimmy just blew up a whole bunch of mud huts on that mountainside, and people and kids are running and screaming and falling over. Wow this is lots more fun and exciting than those fake games we used to play. Bet our Congressman and a guy in a fancy uniform will show up in a few days to give Jimmy a medal and ribbon." Yes, at last, full freedom, equality, and liberation for the children as full and equal participants in the US global slaughter machine. Hopefully the same liberal voices cheering for GLBT equality will soon see the light and also demand children's equality. Wouldn't want anyone feeling second class and left out of all the fun, would we?
God, I love you. I don't even have to type anything in this thread. I'm just so happy to see this dirty little bit of psy-ops put to death.
Like the article says, DON'T CARE I don't care what gay people do, if there stupid enough to join the military, let them be all they can be
Let us move on & try to solve some of America;s real problems, there are plenty to choose from.....................
Unbelievable
Like the article says, DON'T CARE I don't care what gay people do, if there stupid enough to join the military, let them be all they can be
Let us move on & try to solve some of America;s real problems, there are plenty to choose from.....................
Unbelievable
Too much hype on al sides. For the overwhelming majority of our military its pretty much a non issue. Aside from working out some showering and close quarter sleeping arrangements - easily done by the way, most rank and file military members don't care what anyone does off duty.
There aren't any concerns in a foxhole, nor on a six month deployment at sea other than can you do your job. To put it simply - Do you have my back?
Yes, there are bigger and better issues to fight against - the illegal occupations and ongoing slaughter, the pursuance of justice for those who engaged in and sanctioned torture, the prosecution of banking and wall street fraud among others. But just because something isn't the biggest priority doesn't mean it isn't worth fighting for. If the women of this country would have accepted that argument, they would still be waiting on any gains from the suffrage movement. And they're still fighting for full equality. How much better would society and the world be if we did as Martin Luther King asked and just judged people for who they are and how they act - not on what they are.
We on the left better figure out that its ALL worth fighting for. We should take a page from the opposition - NO COMPROMISES, NO SURRENDER, and NO RETREAT.
Yes, all groups, women, GLBT, people of color, every other group should FIGHT for that ultimate liberation and freedom and equality goal: full participation in the endless US military slaughters all over the world. By the Gods, if my liberation and equality demands that it be gotten on the slaughtered bodies, destroyed homes and lives of thousands, then that's what's got to be done. The ruling elites will only accept us as fully equal, after all, if we show up with the bloody hands to prove that we too are absolute true believers in the empire and all its glorious tasks.
Fraid you lost me at the end with all the "Galaxy Quest" quotes...and by the fact that we will have to compromise eventually. That's a given.
"KrazyKatz"
The "opposition" includes a large number of frauds who ardently believe in compromise, surrender, and retreat.
They are called democrats.
It took many months and many thousands of deaths before Abraham Lincoln realized that George McClellan was working against Lincoln in the "Civil" war.
Why are these articles that advocate violence as a job, posted on CD?
This is a subject that's not conducive to peace and understanding. Its not my Common Dream to see more wannabe (paid) warmongers drawn into the evilness of war --for whatever reason.
It doesn't belong on this site any more than some screed by Glenn Beck does.
If I'm missing something, then please, someone enlighten me.
No, you're right. That's your soul, or what Socrates called a "deamon", telling you what is wrong, but never what is right.
Your inner voice clearly feels that trying to end a war by getting more soldiers involved is utter crap. And it is. It's utter crap. It is LITERALLY the status quo.
2 things.
Why is Mr. Winship not challenging the so-called "Defense of Marriage Act"?
Is the right to participate in unjustifiable warmongering more important than demanding equal justice in society as a whole?
On a seemingly lighter note, The behavior of that old windbag, McCain, leads me to suspect that he is actually a democrat. He says one thing, then demands another thing, then finds another way to avoid doing what he said (or, in legalese, may have said , because words have no meaning to these brilliant channelers of slimy affectations) he would do.
Real republicans prefer to stab their victims first and then ask for a napkin.
So sad to see so very many here mixing up what is the right thing to do with the equally right thing of ending these illegal occupations and prosecuting those who ordered them. If anyone seriously believes that it is both possible or even wise to 100% disband the military, I think they're just fooling themselves. What needs to happen is hold all those in the positions of power, both civilian and military accountable for starting and prosecuting these middle eastern follies.
I think we should group all the bigots and assholes together and put _them_ on the front lines. And send John McCain to command them, with Rand Paul as his second in command.
I guess the point is if Gays can be discriminated in the military than they can be discriminated against elsewhere.
That said everyone should be discouraged from joining the military.
And educators should be prohibited from suggesting to students to join the military as they frequently do so.
Based on no one should suggest to a minor that they put their lives at risk.
This is child abuse.
Equating John McCain to Groucho Marx is an insult to Groucho. McCain isn't worthy of such a comparison.