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Don't Be Lame Duck Dems: An Open Letter to Congress
Dear Congressional Democrats:
Welcome back to our nation's capital for your one final session of the 111th Congress. Come January, the Republicans will take over the House while the Democrats will retain control of the Senate.
But Dems -- here's something I don't understand: Why do you look all sullen and depressed? Clearly you're not aware of one very important fact: YOU ARE STILL COMPLETELY, TOTALLY, LEGALLY IN CHARGE! When (and if, mostly if) you wake up to the reality that you can do whatever you want for the next seven weeks, you will realize that you have two clear options:
1. You can continue your "Sit Quietly and Hope No One Hits Me" strategy and thus lay the groundwork for an even bigger ass-kicking two years from now;
Or...
2. You can actually use the power you hold for the next seven weeks and have the Senate pass the legislation that the House has already passed!
Wake up, Democrats! You are in an awesome position right now. The House of Representatives, in this current session of Congress, has already passed an astounding 420 bills since January of 2009 -- 420 bills that are just sitting there on the Senate leader's desk. The Senate has refused to take up these House bills because they've been afraid of a Republican filibuster. Well, Dems, here's the truth: You can pass all of these bills and turn them into law RIGHT NOW, TODAY, by simply calling for a majority vote of 50 Senators (plus Vice President/President of the Senate Joe Biden). Yes, you will need to change the filibuster rules. So do it. You have the votes! And yes, the Republicans will scream bloody murder -- so let them! Make them. Let America see them in all their hateful, spiteful ways -- it will act as a beautiful coming attraction trailer for all the world to see. Let all of America watch the Republicans as they try to derail democracy by holding up a bunch of bills that nearly every American I know would want to see as the law of the land. Many of these bills are so safe, so innocuous, I have a hard time understanding what the heck the problem was in the first place. Like the bill that's already passed the House to name a post office after Jimmy Stewart. I know, I know, the idea of a post office named after Jimmy Stewart is really, really, incredibly controversial and divisive and somebody on the other side of the aisle might yell at you. Be brave, Democrats!
There's a whole slew of these bills the House has passed. Some are no-brainers; others are absolutely necessary. You can pass them in the next seven weeks. And because you Dems seem to have a problem with properly naming your bills and communicating effectively with the average American, I have helpfully renamed them for you so they sound like what they actually are -- things people would really want. Here's a partial list of the bills the House has already passed and are now just in need of approval by the U.S. Senate:
• The "Give Mom a Raise Act," officially known as the "Paycheck Fairness Act," which addresses pay gaps between men and women. Now, who out there still believes women should be paid less than men? I REALLY want to see Republicans try to stop this one.
• The "Don't Amputate Our Feet Act," aka the "Eliminating Disparities in Diabetes Prevention Access and Care Act of 2009." Which Republican will stand to speak out in favor of diabetes?
• The "Pay Up, BP Act," aka the "Audit the BP Fund Act," which makes sure BP is paying people hurt by the Gulf oil spill as quickly as possible -- and makes BP pay the cost of keeping track of where the money's going.
• The "Stop Foreigners From Hitting Grandma Act," aka the "Elder Abuse Victims Act." This doesn't really have anything to do with foreigners, but our fellow Americans seem to automatically dislike people from other countries, so this should help just in case the Republicans think an "elders abuse victims act" doesn't sound patriotic enough.
• The "Let's Try Not to Destroy Planet Earth Act" (aka Cap and Trade, a lousy half-way measure to begin with, but about the best you can expect from you Democrats these days).
• The "National Bombing Prevention Act" (it's actually already called that, which is hard to improve on).
And while those of you in the Senate are taking care of all that, the House can come up with a better version of Michelle Obama's "Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act" to improve child nutrition. The Senate has already passed this bill. (The House should fix it so that it isn't paid for by cutting food stamps to poor people. Yes, you, a Democratic Senate, did that.)
Then there are also things that neither the House or Senate has dealt with. These would take more work during the next two months, but that's what highly-caffeinated "energy" drinks are for.
Jenni Suri of Ligonier, Indiana, has set up a petition with a good list, which anyone can sign here to tell the Congressional leadership to get started. Among the "to do" items on the list:
• Extend emergency unemployment benefits
• Repeal Don't Ask, Don't Tell
• Pass the DREAM Act (to provide young immigrants with a path to citizenship)
• Pass the Disclose Act to force corporations to say what politicians they're giving money to
• Pass the Employee Free Choice Act, so we can have unions again in the U.S.
• Pass Rep. Donna Edwards' constitutional amendment that -- in the wake of the Citizens United decision -- would give Congress the power to regulate corporate spending on elections
So what do you say, Democrats? What's the worst that could happen -- you'd lose an election? You already did that! C'mon, here's your one last gutsy chance to show us that you're made of something other than wish and wash.
Yours, Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com MichaelMoore.com
P.S. Be sure to let the Democrats in Congress know right now you expect action from them during this next month. You can call your Senators and Representative at (202) 224-3121 or find their direct number and email at Congress.org.
P.P.S. If you missed Bill Maher or Larry King on Friday, here are the links to watch my visit to both of them: Maher, Part 1, Maher, Part 2, King, Part 1, King, Part 2, King, Part 3 and King, Part 4.- Posted in
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Show AllHey Unc, here's a suggestion. Stop voting. Don't participate in these corporate fascist scams. The time for civil disobedience is now.
"If he were alive today". Think about that... why isn't he alive today? Or RFK, ML King, Paul Wellstone? And who owns the media? And who owns the voting machines?
The lunatics are running the asylum.
People are still addicted to the totally bankrupt two party for-profit system which is incapable of solving the problems of an empire in decline. The overseas empire with wide bipartisan support is enjoying an unprecedented expansion at the same time as the domestic economy is mired in a near depression like atmosphere caused by massive corruption at home. Until someone like Michael Moore decides enough is enough and begins to invest in a new party there is no hope of serious change in America.
There you go again, Michael. Expressing your Wish List in public. As a successful filmmaker who has provided us with many important and cogent statements, you get to do so.
Shame it has little or nothing to do with historical and political reality.
Sure, there is lots they COULD do -- as there was lots MORE they COULD HAVE DONE when they got their total majorities in 2008 (and House majority in 2006). But they HAVEN'T. Why would those colluding cowards start now??
The Democrats are that Part of the Corporate Equation that is meant to "appeal" to the sensitive and caring souls like yourself -- and many of us reading here -- and keep us quiet as they help sell the Corporate Agenda to the Skeptics (us). They do that job masterfully.
They are needed by the corporate state to control and quiet indignation and opposition to a manageable level.
We MUST cut them loose. Without the Democratic Party actively quashing opposition, the Corporate State cannot successfully sell their Myths.
Only cutting off the second leg upon which the Corporatocracy stands, can it lose balance and fall over! Hoping the Democrats will somehow suddenly "get it" is what keeps that leg a viable corporate appendage.
As difficult as it seems in America, if there is to be democracy in our future we MUST organize around ANOTHER party, steeped in democracy, humanity, respect, stewardship, and caring. We must learn to depend on ourselves and a VIsion we can believe in, or it cannot be achieved.
Dems can no longer provide such a vision. We must stop begging them to do the "Right Thing," Michael.
WE must define what the Right Thing is! And through a new voice, WORK (remember that?) to make it happen! It will not occur by itself.
The artist side of me feels a strong connection to MM because he's an absolutely brilliant film artist. So I keep reading what he has to say.
The social worker side of me recognizes the glaring pathology of his victim of abuse behavior. It's so ironic. MM creates films that describe the exploitation, violation and disenfranchisement of the people by the corporate oligarchy and then he, himself proceeds to enable continuation of the abuse. He tells us that the perpetrators aren't all that bad. They didn't mean to abuse us, it was all a mistake. If we give them just one more chance, they'll shape up.
MM is like a child defending the parent who neglects him. The woman who defends the man who beats her nearly to death.
Trouble is, it's virtually impossible to stop the abuse when the victim accepts it. Until some semblance of self-worth is re-established
and they are willing/able to fight back.
Mike's not there yet. His talent helps move a lot of people forward. His victim of abuse mentality holds people back from effective activism. He's inadvertently led a lot of people astray.
I don't want to leave this good person behind. I hope he catches up. But we have got to move on. Maybe if the crowd leaves him behind the resulting inertia will pull him out of the bog.
Perfectly brilliant analysis.
I frankly hadn't considered that analogy for MM. Its a possibility. People frequently invest so much in a particular ideology it blinds them to the truth.
Perhaps I'm too harsh on MM. After all, he started well. Worth considering, thanks.
Mr. Moore, please realize a call for a new party and the abandonment of the current duopoly by some one of your "stature" would greatly help to move the conversation forward.
We're waiting.
I'm still working my way through RD Wolff's material, which is excellent.
I sent MM an email -- hope he gets and read it, recommending he look at session 3 of http://www.rdwolff.com/content/advanced-applied-marxian-economics-intensive-course
at least.
The problem, as Wolff lays out pretty well, is the system and political/economic structure itself, embedded in capitalism, which places the decisions in the hands of very few instead of the people (and the workers who produce the wealth), and which largely determines how far people can deviate from that system (not far).
This not only attracts power-hungry and greedy people into 'leadership' positions, but also corrupts those who might have started with good intentions into the standard group think (going beyond what Wolff was explaining there). If they were not originally like that, they are 'assimilated' -- like by the Borg.
As Wolff ewxplains in session 3 (above) there is a difference between power structures and economic structures (although they obviously intermix and influence each other greatly). The problem is that we have a very undemocratic economic system, so naturally the supposedly democratic political system is in constant conflict with it.
The vast majority of democrat party legislators voted out earlier this month are simply biding their time now, waiting for the opportunity to sign fat contracts as lobbyists on K Street. The proposal that they can be rallied to make a last great push for the people is either too naive or too cynical for me to fathom.
Michael's next Move. "Obama and Me", where Michael follows Obama around and is ignored.
IF the dems follow Mike's advice, and change the rules of fillibuster in order to jam through some dull and mediocre Dem legislation, then the Dems will be helpless when the GOP take over the House, and start jamming fascist bills though the Senate.
I have a feeling it would end like Roger and Me did.
I may not be Mr. Moore's biggest fan, but I'm a fan of this column.
I especially like his suggestion that we get behind Rep. Donna Edwards' constitutional amendment that would give Congress the power to regulate corporate spending on elections.
Better still wouuld be to leave the Congress out of it. Something like :
"All political media advertising is illegal for or against any candidate for local, state, or federal offices."
That's the Amendment to the Constitution we need.
Simple, to the point, maybe even ratifiable.
Well, following this logic, I have a solution to clean up the pig farms -- just have them grow wings and fly over a sand desert to relieve themselves.
Thing is, all there suggestions have some merit except they will not happen because the money and power is dead set against them. The constitution can't be chnage without congress behind it (practically speaking).
The only way to change anything is to rebuild society and the culture first, and that has to happen starting with a LOT of people waking up and paying attention, first developing non-capitalist ideas and practices on all the local levels -- largely by word-of-mouth about other localities where this was done and worked well (the same way weeds spread -- think about where this happens biologically, in nature; that's a good model). Democracy has to become a fad -- both in politics and the economy.
You are absolutely correct in asserting that Congress will never take it upon themselves to amend the Constitution to limit the role of money in elections. Big money changing hands makes it too easy for some of it to end up in the pockets of Congressmen and, especially, their relatives and cronies. Most all of them have more in common with Charlie Rangle than they would ever admit even to themselves.
However, if thirty-four states’ legislatures call for a Constitutional Convention to propose an amendment, then such a convention must be convened.
NO SITTING CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR WANTS TO SEE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, which would open up a Pandora’s box of proposals and bring out both Big Money and the crazies in droves. Who knows what evil we would end up with?
But a grass-roots movement to get state legislatures to consider such a question might actually frighten the Congress into action.
It may sound overly simple, or even simple-minded, but if something isn’t done then nothing gets done.
You and I might not even be alive to see the change, but if a change doesn’t come then we will continue the road toward international corporate fascism, which will of course be called Americanism or anti-communism or some other innocuous thing like the “Pledge to America.”
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I see that as only moving the same problem down to the state level -- which is at least as embedded with the capitalists as the feds. Gotta get a lot lower than that and have strong 'weed roots' organizations.
Bluepilgim, you are spot on. Nothing will get done at any state capital without a meaningful grass roots movement.
regulations produce monopolies, limit spending doesn't stop wages assassination procedure - to eliminate donations you have to give the voter the right to ratify his legislation - send out the representatives to count your votes and not to perfect his/her own life situation on everybody else's expense.
edweg
Michael Moore, like the rest of the comfortably wealthy, yet conscientious Americans out there, needs to feel he can be a part of a real, viable alternative to the Democrats. He sees two powers, and a vacuum otherwise. Powerful, influential, but cowed supporters of the party cannot just jump ship, for both the reasons of not wishing to alienate huge numbers of their backers, and their fans, but also because they don't want to be blamed, as they surely would be, for using their influence to rock the boat too much, foment dissent and chaos, and potentially spark the flames of civil war on our tinderbox of a nation.
They need a viable, sane (shouldn't be hard to come up with a more sane platform than what we've got), reasonable alternative to the Democratic Party.
And what are we, the Progressives and the Disenfranchised Left doing about it?
The French or the Chinese or the Czechs or ... would take to the streets.
We have two left-over stupid W/Cheney wars PLUS a monumental sniping campaign (sort of a guerilla-style class war, I guess) going on and poeple just watch NFL, NBA, and TV "horse race" political news coverage like that's all their life is really about.
Time to start reorganizing the damn baby boomers into a force to do something other than stand around at Tea Parties full of other retired veterans, subsidized corn farmers, Social Security and Medicare recipients, etc. and bitch about welfare mothers.
I am a baby-boomer Vietnam veteran and I HATE THE $*(#%&&%^#$#!!!!! TEABAGGERS(nee Peebaggers).
So don't go lumping all of us into the GOD DAMNED FASCISTS!
MY bad.
I sincerely apologize for that remark.
Taking to the streets as has been demonstrated recently gets you very little.
The Baby Boomers are organizing, you just didn't notice.
And as far as Tea Party people fitting your framing, you need to stop listening to the democrats or these folks will roll right over us as they are not as pictured. They haven't been watching the NFL, NBA, etc. This election should have shpown a lot of folks the truth.
I am a Vietnam combat veteran if we are going to count that and I don't know why we would except for some strange reason you mentioned us and a Baby Boomer and I don't call folks that disagree with me "FASCISTS"
A heartfelt apology for my poor choice of words.
You are absolutely correct in asserting that Congress will never take it upon themselves to amend the Constitution to limit the role of money in elections. Big money changing hands makes it too easy for some of it to end up in the pockets of Congressmen and, especially, their relatives and cronies. Most all of them have more in common with Charlie Rangle than they would ever admit even to themselves.
However, if thirty-four states’ legislatures call for a Constitutional Convention to propose an amendment, then such a convention must be convened.
NO SITTING CONGRESSMAN OR SENATOR WANTS TO SEE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION, which would open up a Pandora’s box of proposals and bring out both Big Money and the crazies in droves. Who knows what evil we would end up with?
But a grass-roots movement to get state legislatures to consider such a question might actually frighten the Congress into action.
It may sound overly simple, or even simple-minded, but if something isn’t done then nothing gets done.
You and I might not even be alive to see the change, but if a change doesn’t come then we will continue the road toward international corporate fascism, which will of course be called Americanism or anti-communism or some other innocuous thing like the “Pledge to America.”
"But a grass-roots movement to get state legislatures to consider such a question might actually frighten the Congress into action."
Yes, my thoughts exactly. Michael Moore, please read:
http://freepdfhosting.com/fc950ccb13.pdf
I'm beginning to seriously doubt whether any Democrats in Congress or on the White House staff bother to monitor the comments in sites like this.
I'm pretty sure that someone on the far right, perhaps in the Heritage Foundation or the like, is 'listening' and trying to keep a step ahead.
Damn, we need to get behind the Greens or have Sen Feingold challenge Obama in the next Presidential primary or start beating up random commercial banking CEO's or something ... OK. OK. I got a little crazy there. But I mean, the Democrats clearly are no longer the 'populist' party. They're just the other half of a comedy duo built to serve the status quo.
"or have Sen Feingold challenge Obama in the next Presidential primary or start beating up random commercial banking CEO's or something.."
For the same reasons mentioned above (no viable challenging power base) Feingold, Grayson – none of the progressive candidates we would would like to see wielding influence and power – will work for an alternative, unless they believe that alternative won't permanently destroy their reputations, careers, prestige and wealth.
A broad base of consensus among the opposition is needed, and it needs to be organized by those with enough guts, enough money, the grass-roots organizing capability, and not too much to lose (M.M. are you reading?), who are willing to come forward and put their names, and butts on the line. But before anyone will do this, We The People need to demonstrate that we will back them up with consolidated, determined and long-haul support.
Salusa Secundus wrote - 3rd para. -"A broad base of consensus among the opposition is needed, and it needs to be organized by those with enough guts, enough money, the grass-roots organizing capability, and not too much to lose (M.M. are you reading?), who are willing to come forward and put their names, and butts on the line. But before anyone will do this, We The People need to demonstrate that we will back them up with consolidated, determined and long-haul support."
So true!
Michael Moore is getting a lot of flak in this string of comment, and I understand why. But he is writing about the situation AS IT IS. This is where we are at present - I guess he's trying to make the best of a bad job.
MM is addressing what is. I hope he reads these comments because, as Salusa Secondus implies, MM is one of the only people with enough of the necessary "ooomph" to get something started among a wider range of people than CD readers and commenters, so that "what is" could be changed to something a bit nearer to that which we crave.
What I'm going to write here is going to offend, but it is my belief.
Michael Moore cannot see beyond his illusions about this so-called "democracy" for the same reasons that he is a catholic.
The predatory priests of both religions may cause him concern, but he will continue to tithe, in money and in mentality.
He is painting this house while it is burning and telling us to pick up a brush and help.
Poor man.
I have had the same thoughts, and i have posted them at other times here, Birdbrain Ally.
He really is stuck in a closed system. Dr. Lipton wrote about the good nazi doctors. The ones who tried to help those in death camps, by sneaking them an aspirin or extra piece of food when they could. However, they never attempted to disrupt the nazi system itself.
I think there is a parallel here. He is a very good boy scout, but he is not a radical nor is he able to get outside of the box.
Wake up and realize what so many of us did long ago: Obama is a Trojan Horse for the Corporatist-Militarist Ruling Class running both major political parties and all three branches of the federal government.
By the time enough people, including both Tea Partiers and liberals, realize this, it will be too late.
In fact, it is already too late, especially for reversing catastrophic climate chaos.
Trojan horse he is
edweg
Michael Moore wrote: "Let all of America watch the Republicans as they try to derail democracy."
I guess he hasn't been paying attention to the Obama administration's continuation of our government's assault on democracy, here and abroad.
Yes. The Democrats are STILL in charge.
Just like they were last year and the year before.
They had big majorities, nothing to fear from the other party and a President who had complete authority to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.
What happened instead was business as usual.
Troop escalations, bogus "environmentalism" like Cash for Clunkers, Clean Coal and offshore drilling.
Michael Moore is clearly not very smart or perhaps he is part of the corruption himself.
I think he's just stuck. And he doesn't do anyone any favors by being part of comedy team with Maher. Then again, perhaps he's just "part of the corruption".
In any case, the situation is just not funny.
He has at his disposal his great filmmaking ability (and resources), even if he –for the sake of expediency, just applies it to the web.
The things he's doing now are a waste of time. Quite pointless.
Moore has been playing constructive role all his life,
and decades ago pointed to the sources of legislation driven de-industrialization in Roger and Me.
He tries to address always the better side of Man. No one knows it all, so he is not paying sufficient attention (who is?) to social structures going legislatively the other way.
edweg
Michael,
Save your breath. Stop trying to appeal to the better side of the Democrats who are still in office. It's a waste of time.
Obama is just like Bush -- a Puppet controled by the Elites.
He's carrying on his agenda & he may be even worse.
Give up on the Dems, they're useless.
Michael,
Save your breath. Stop trying to appeal to the better side of the Democrats who are still in office. It's a waste of time.
Obama is just like Bush -- a Puppet controled by the Elites.
He's carrying on his agenda & he may be even worse.
Give up on the Dems, they're useless.
Moore is simply a distraction at this point. Now is the time for building something new for 2012, not clinging to false hopes and illusions. He's now a permanent part of the problem, and not offering realistic solution. Lastly, sadly, he's having as much luck saving the nation as he did in saving his hometown of Flint.
He should stick with his films.
Time is of the essence. The dems are clearly a lost cause. Spending money, time, energy and votes with them will continue to lead to more demoralizing failures.
Its time for progressives to move forward.
Michael Moore and Common Dreams, a textbook case of an abusive relationship...
Below is a check list from a domestic abuse website.
Dear Michael, does Common Dreams..
Embarrass or make fun of you in public?
Put down your comments or goals?
Call you names?
Make you feel like you are unable to make decisions?
Use intimidation or threats to gain compliance?
Try to scare you?
Tell you that you are nothing without it?
Blame you for how they feel or act?
Pressure you sexually for things you aren't ready for? (Well OK, maybe not yet anyway)
Make you feel like there "is no way out" of the relationship?
Act jealous of other websites in your life?
Accuse you of cheating or talking around at other discussion boards?
Threaten to delete it's URL, if you leave?
Deny your feelings about Democrats?
Do You...
Sometimes feel scared of how your Common Dreams will act?
Constantly make excuses to other people for CD's behavior?
Believe that you can help CD change if only you changed something about yourself? (Lost a little weight, joined the Greens)
Try not to do anything that would cause conflict or make CD angry?
Feel like no matter what you do, CD is never happy with you?
Always say what CD wants you to say instead of what you want?
Stay with CD because you are afraid of what CD would do if you broke up?
Mike, I'm afraid you only have two choices here. Continue with the abuse, or find someone else that loves you just the way your are, warts, Democrats, and all!
Give it up Michael! Quit wasting your time and considerable talents on the Dems. FDR is dead and so is the Democratic Party.
Normally, I'm a big fan of Michael Moore but this time, I'm with the posters. There's no way that Congress will do anything at this time. Wouldn't they have done it a long time ago if they were interested? I don't know how Congress works but anything that passes in a lame duck session can be easily undone by the next session of Congress that starts in January, right? Michael Moore is trying to hold out hope for the Democrats but I'm already jumping ship. I voted Green for the first time. Two years ago, I campaigned for Obama as a student but now work is stressful and people my age are losing jobs and breaking up. I can't wait for the Democrats to stop disappointing me. Michael Moore, just let the Democrats go. We'll just have to do without them. How about joining the Green Party?
Remember under Bush 2 when Democrats took the majorities and then went ahead and gave Bush everything he asked for? MM sent me an email about that time, telling his list that he'd finally had it with the Democrats. He was done with them.
Does anyone have that email? It was within a year after the Dems took the House.
So what in the world has turned him back into a beggar? He humiliates himself over and over again. Is he worried that he won't be popular if he ditches the Dems? As I surely know, it isn't easy being a pariah. Look what Nader put up with for 8 years. He's still dealing with the backlash against his candidacies.
I couldn't help but notice, Michael, that the Wars are NOT among your to-do list of what might improve the planet, but repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell is.
Why is that Michael?
Why are you shilling for the U.S military and trying to make it's ranks swell even larger? Are you worried that the Pashtuns and Iraqis might rise up and we need to have those reserves in place? Why do you want more troops in uniform and by extension, boots on the ground?
Are you one of the those people who believe that the problems with our murderous death machine is that it is not multi-cultural enough? Are you that simple?
I cannot believe I had my photo taken with you and was once grateful to get your autograph.
The poverty of the ideas presented here make you look as radical as a dead, dried ant. No fight in the dog. Begging others to do stuff for you. Call for me, write for me, beg along with me.
Why aren't you ambushing Obama with a camera and microphone?
Why aren't you traveling to the war-zones to interview people at the scene of the crime?
I know, I know, it was easier with Bush. Hell, you probably got that Oscar just for cresting that wave of anti-Bush feelings, even with all those boos you got on stage.
Where is the film or films befitting your image as a rabble rouser, stirring up our blood at war, injustice and inequality?
What the hell happened to you man?
Living in a penthouse in Manhattan and on a 10-acre, lakefront home in a scenic tourist town can make one's viewpoint somewhat removed from that of, say, some working stiff juggling two jobs with shoddy insurance coverage to make the month's rent.
Interesting call to eat the rich. Look up the economic conditions of Marx and Engels prior to their revolutionary political vision would you?
Mike's agent is now Ari Emanuel--perhaps that offers some explanation?
Really? Jesus...you're right.
WWWB,
Well stated.
C