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Published on Friday, October 22, 2010 by CommonDreams.org
Ten Questions for Tea Partiers
Here are ten questions for Tea Partiers that they want or do not want to answer. I say it this way because people who call themselves Tea Partiers do not have the same view of politics, government, Big Business or the Constitution. Their opinions range from pure Libertarian to actively furthering the privileges of plutocracy. Their income and occupational background vary as well, though most seem to be middle-income and up.

My guess is that most Tea Partiers come from the conservative wing of the Republican Party who are fed up with both the corporate Republicans like Bush and Cheney, as well as the Democrats like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
With the above in mind, the following questions can serve to go beyond abstractions and generalizations of indignation and get to some more specific responses.
1. Can you be against Big Government and not press for reductions in the vast military budgets, fraught with bureaucratic and large contractors’ waste, fraud and abuse? Military spending now takes up half of the federal government’s operating budgets. The libertarian Cato Institute believes that to cut deficits, we have to also cut the defense budget.
2. Can you believe in the free market and not condemn hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare-bailouts, subsidies, handouts, and giveaways?
3. Can you want to preserve the legitimate sovereignty of our country and not reject the trade agreements known as NAFTA and GATT (The World Trade Organization in Geneva, Switzerland) that scholars have described as the greatest surrender of local, state and national sovereignty in our history?
4. Can you be for law and order and not support a bigger and faster crackdown on the corporate crime wave, that needs more prosecutors and larger enforcement budgets to stop the stealing of taxpayers and consumer dollars so widely reported in the Wall Street Journal and Business Week? Law enforcement officials estimate that for every dollar for prosecution, seventeen to twenty dollars are returned.
5. Can you be against invasions of privacy by government and business without rejecting the provisions of the Patriot Act that leave you defenseless to constant unlawful snooping, appropriation of personal information and even search of your home without notification until 72 hours later?
6. Can you be against regulation of serious medical malpractice (over 100,000 lives lost a year, according to a study by Harvard physicians), unsafe drugs that have serious side effects or cause the very injury/illness they were sold to prevent, motor vehicles with defective brakes, tires and throttles, contaminated food from China, Mexico and domestic processors?
7. Can you keep calling for Freedom and yet tolerate control of your credit and other economic rights by hidden and arbitrary credit ratings and credit scores? What Freedom do you have when you have to sign industry-wide fine print one-sided “contracts” with your banks, insurance companies, car dealers, and credit card companies? Many of these contracts even block your Constitutional access to the courthouse.
8. Can you be for a new, clean system of politics and elections and still accept the Republican and Democratic Two Party dictatorship that is propped up by complex state laws, frivolous litigation and harassment to exclude from the ballot third parties and independent candidates who want reform, accountability, and stronger voices for the voters?
9. If you want a return to our Constitution—its principles of limited and separation of power and its emphasis on “We the People” in its preamble—can you still support Washington’s wars that have not been declared by Congress (Article I Section 8) or giving corporations equal rights with humans plus special privileges and immunities. The word “corporation” or “company” never appears in the Constitution. How can you support eminent domain powers given by governments to corporations over homeowners, or massive week-end bailouts by the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department of businesses, even reckless foreign banks, without receiving the authority and the appropriations from the Congress, as the Constitution requires?
10. You want less taxation and lower deficits. How can you succeed unless you stop big corporations from escaping their fair share of taxes by manipulating foreign jurisdictions against our tax laws, for example, or by letting trillions of dollars of speculation on Wall Street go without any sales tax, while you pay six, seven or eight percent sales tax on the necessities you buy in stores?
Let’s hear from you Tea Partiers. Meanwhile, see the work of video-journalist, Steve Ference, who has interviewed and given voice to those among you in his new paperback “Voices of the Tea Party” published by Lulu.com on July 4, 2010. Contact VoicesoftheTeaParty@gmail.com.

My guess is that most Tea Partiers come from the conservative wing of the Republican Party who are fed up with both the corporate Republicans like Bush and Cheney, as well as the Democrats like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
With the above in mind, the following questions can serve to go beyond abstractions and generalizations of indignation and get to some more specific responses.
1. Can you be against Big Government and not press for reductions in the vast military budgets, fraught with bureaucratic and large contractors’ waste, fraud and abuse? Military spending now takes up half of the federal government’s operating budgets. The libertarian Cato Institute believes that to cut deficits, we have to also cut the defense budget.
2. Can you believe in the free market and not condemn hundreds of billions of dollars of corporate welfare-bailouts, subsidies, handouts, and giveaways?
3. Can you want to preserve the legitimate sovereignty of our country and not reject the trade agreements known as NAFTA and GATT (The World Trade Organization in Geneva, Switzerland) that scholars have described as the greatest surrender of local, state and national sovereignty in our history?
4. Can you be for law and order and not support a bigger and faster crackdown on the corporate crime wave, that needs more prosecutors and larger enforcement budgets to stop the stealing of taxpayers and consumer dollars so widely reported in the Wall Street Journal and Business Week? Law enforcement officials estimate that for every dollar for prosecution, seventeen to twenty dollars are returned.
5. Can you be against invasions of privacy by government and business without rejecting the provisions of the Patriot Act that leave you defenseless to constant unlawful snooping, appropriation of personal information and even search of your home without notification until 72 hours later?
6. Can you be against regulation of serious medical malpractice (over 100,000 lives lost a year, according to a study by Harvard physicians), unsafe drugs that have serious side effects or cause the very injury/illness they were sold to prevent, motor vehicles with defective brakes, tires and throttles, contaminated food from China, Mexico and domestic processors?
7. Can you keep calling for Freedom and yet tolerate control of your credit and other economic rights by hidden and arbitrary credit ratings and credit scores? What Freedom do you have when you have to sign industry-wide fine print one-sided “contracts” with your banks, insurance companies, car dealers, and credit card companies? Many of these contracts even block your Constitutional access to the courthouse.
8. Can you be for a new, clean system of politics and elections and still accept the Republican and Democratic Two Party dictatorship that is propped up by complex state laws, frivolous litigation and harassment to exclude from the ballot third parties and independent candidates who want reform, accountability, and stronger voices for the voters?
9. If you want a return to our Constitution—its principles of limited and separation of power and its emphasis on “We the People” in its preamble—can you still support Washington’s wars that have not been declared by Congress (Article I Section 8) or giving corporations equal rights with humans plus special privileges and immunities. The word “corporation” or “company” never appears in the Constitution. How can you support eminent domain powers given by governments to corporations over homeowners, or massive week-end bailouts by the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department of businesses, even reckless foreign banks, without receiving the authority and the appropriations from the Congress, as the Constitution requires?
10. You want less taxation and lower deficits. How can you succeed unless you stop big corporations from escaping their fair share of taxes by manipulating foreign jurisdictions against our tax laws, for example, or by letting trillions of dollars of speculation on Wall Street go without any sales tax, while you pay six, seven or eight percent sales tax on the necessities you buy in stores?
Let’s hear from you Tea Partiers. Meanwhile, see the work of video-journalist, Steve Ference, who has interviewed and given voice to those among you in his new paperback “Voices of the Tea Party” published by Lulu.com on July 4, 2010. Contact VoicesoftheTeaParty@gmail.com.
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Show AllAnti, firstly Hi and a belated welcome to CD.
I would like to ask you. Have you ever been asked to pick a card by a magician?
You think you are making a free choice but somehow you picked what he wanted you to pick.
For people with few options in life choosing to join the military is the same as picking a card.
Wait a minute!!
You can't argue an all-volunteer / no-draft military means person doesn't have a choice.
A fine choice indeed! Thank you Mr. Hobson.
Wow!!!
So, what's your suggestion? It's an all-volunteer military. No one can make another person join.
But, because someone feels their "choices" in life suck & they join the military, it's not really a choice.
I don't get it. What's your complaint & against who? What are you wanting to see happen/change?
I'd like to point out LOTS of people have a crappy starting point in life...and THEY don't choose the military. I really don't follow your line of thought.
Anti
No matter how strong the rage or noble the perceived cause, the voices of the Tea Party, the Coffee Party, nearly any erstwhile third party or other dissaffected gathering will always be co-opted or marginalized. Wherever the rage is coming from it will be harnessed and labeled as left or right. If the points are usable they will be encapsulated in weak arguments for the established party system. If the points are uncomfortable to the power structure, they are labelled as zealous, extreme and radical.
I applaud the passion that leads people to speak out. But the Tea Party, if it ever had a rational base, has been hijacked for sound bites -by the left and the right. On this forum it is fodder for ridicule by too many who have ascribed overarching labels to the brand. The News Corp folks use it as a rally point for all things that negate the common good and common wealth of our nation for the benefit of very few. Third party groups, the tea party included, will be lulled into accepting the belief that change "within the two party system" is the only way to exact meaningful change.
The Tea Party, as it stands now, will be a Know Nothing footnote that held minor sway in a couple of elections. The face of it will be one of the News Corp paid "politiicians" well versed in the talking points of their masters.
We need a better revolution.
precisely, my point. And it does not apply to health care, indigenes, slaves, lynchings, racism in US.
Precisely, my dear. U reaffirmed my point! tnx
Huh?
What point?
First, it is the US Constitution. It applies to the US. It does NOT apply to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq or Australia or Switzerland, either, for that matter! So, we're b!tching b/c the US Constitution doesn't apply to a foreign country? REALLY?!? That sound a little "off" to you??
And, how is it the Constitution addresses health care? Slavery has been abolished. Lynchings should be prosecuted. We've removed all segregation laws, so, racism is in someone's heart/mind - no piece of paper is gonna change that. That changes with time, education, etc...
Sooooo.....what's your point? Because my asking a question was your point. And, I'm sorry, but your point makes no sense to me.
Ok. I wld believe that my point may be missed. But this may clarify what i am trying to say [please no blitzunderstanding or blitz reading]; by the way, most or people who agree with my messages never say they have not got the message:
If the constitution [really a set of laws and vague utterances] is not valid for, say iraq, then, question arises, How come US is there and killing innocent people? As to lynchings, once again US laws-constitution, appear invalid. And not mention the fact that constitution does not permit equal health care for all, etcetc.
In short, i am not satisfied with the prestidigition of now we see constitution, and now we don't? If this is not clear to u, please no more replies; ask, please, smone else for an elucidation of what i just said.tnx for an ear
I gave you the respect, not only to listen to you, but to listen to your points & ask you for clarification when I didn't understand. I deserve an ear in response.
I don't understand how our Constitution SHOULD apply to Iraqi citizens. Apply to our military's actions? Agreed. Apply to US decisions made by the President or Congress? Agreed! Apply to their citizens, no. Now, if they wanna copy or model ours? Then, those aspects WOULD apply.
I think the Constitution doesn't address universal healthcare b/c we're a capitalist society, not socialist. But, that's a completely different topic for a completely different day.
I think the reason you feel we see it one day, we don't see it another is because there are 2 different ways of viewing it - as a fixed document or a living/breathing document. To me, the ONLY way it is living/breathing is by Congress making changes. Else, what it says, goes. Don't like it? Raise heck with Congress, but deeming issues Constitutional or not b/c this person likes this issue or that one.
"However, US constitution is not entirely composed of laws; there are some vague advice; such as pursuit of happiness, right to life, and more."
Uh, no. The latter is from the Declaration of Independence, which has no force of law, and preceded the creation of ONE nation by over a decade. Your ignorance of this undermines the rest of your comments, and suggests you are not particularly familiar with either document.
The Constitution isn't just "composed of laws," but IS the ORGANIC LAW of the United States! It IS the supreme law of the land, and is the framework that CREATED one federal republic.
Nor is there "some vague advice" in the Constitution! As Chief Justice Marshall said, "There is NO surplusage in the Constitution," which means that EVERY word or phrase in there has some specific purpose, and the meaning can be determined by how the terms were used at the time of the writing of them.
That neither makes the Constitution nor government "infallible" or "sacred," terms which have no place in understanding how a constitutional democratic republic works.
The present government, and preceding ones, have violated the Constitution and various laws many, many times; we are "fighting wars" in various countries without the Constitutional authorization to declare war that only Congress has power to do. Are you not aware of this? Rights of privacy and free speech are routinely ignored, as are other rights. Laws are often not enforced against polluters, or those who violate anti-trust laws, or fair labor laws.
The rest of your post is simply not comprehensible.
Ralph--the teabaggers in general are way too simple-minded to begin to comprehend your questions, much less the irony.
Fact is, tho easily overlooked, that, until recently, we have lived everywhere under lawlessness; i.e., under diktats imposed on us by clerico-noble subclass of people.
In ancient times they owned all the land and all of the people.
In modern times, they own all of the people and most land, but also every warship, tank, wmd, cia agent, fighter jet, money, media, schooling. tnx, more cld be said
Ralph Nader is, as usual, right on.
The problem is, Tea Partiers don't understand much beyond a sentence with about 8 words in it. And words like "plutocracy" is a signal for them to stop reading.
Tea Partiers seem incapable of basic critical thinking.
There really is no reasoning with any person who has no critical thinking skills.
The only way they get it is when they get confronted in some very physical way that brutally and unambiguously contradicts their existing belief system.
Like when a republican's house in New Orleans is eight feet under water and they hear George Bush tell the head of FEMA he's doing a "heck of a job".
And even then, they'd find a way to reinforce what they already believe.
The person incapable of critical thinking sees and hears only what he believes, unfortunately.
So, Ralph Nader, right on as he is, is heard only by the already converted.
But thanks, anyway. I needed to hear it. And maybe that is all Ralph was hoping for.
Liam
So condescending toward those that don't follow your crap? We're much smarter than you think and very pissed. November awakening awaits. I will enjoy the backlash.
I think he should have preficed this with" all answers must come from the constitution". No federalist papers, no use of court rulings.
Let's quit trying to apply logic to the Tea Party. Like the Alice in Wonderland version of the Tea Party, little makes sense. Be they Mad Hatters from mercury poising from hat making, Fox news, or Glen beck, their minds are immune to logic.
Things aren't they way they like, and someone must be to blame. (I must say they have that part right.) The trick would be to administer the proper sound-bites to turn their ire to more appropriate objects.
Why don't the Dims run focus groups with these people and see what would do the trick?
Yes, I know the argument that the Dims and Repulsives are the same, but if that's so why can the Repubs come up with sound bites that speak to this segment of the population?
If every news source portrays Ralph as a kook and an oddball than that's what people will believe. If these same people would give him the time of day and listen to what he has to say, he'd be as popular as he was in the 70's.
Give Ralph A Chance!
I don't think Nader's a kook or an oddball; I don't think he intended to do harm in 2000. My best friend voted for him in that election. But I still think that if he hadn't run then there wouldn't have been a chance for the "close call" of Gore v Bush to have occurred. Of course, the ultimate blame lies with the Supreme Court; but for allowing that situation to arise in the first place, Nader still bears some of the blame.
I voted for Nader who bears none of the blame for the election of George Bush. A vote for Bush was a vote for evil. A vote for Gore was a vote for (supposedly lesser) evil. I am not going to vote for evil hoping that evil will somehow morph into good.
What makes you think that Al Gore would have rec'd Ralph Nader Votes, if Nader had not entered the 2000 race? I would not have voted for Al Gore in 2000.
Thanks Ralph.
horsesh*t, 2 million registered Democrats voted for Bush in 2000. Gore couldn't even carry his own home state. Don't blame Nader.
Plus, a Gore presidency with Zionist, war monger lunatic Lieberman would've been the same disaster we had for 8 years under Bush. There's no difference between Repugs and Dems, Obama's the greatest proof. Can't you guys get that through your thick heads yet?
I disagree.
You cannot fault Nader for Bush's election. You wanna blame anyone - you blame the people who voted for him. THEY elected him.
As for the Supreme Court decision, that election was a cluster. I'm not sure if the Electoral College is really the way to go, anymore. I wonder if a straight-up popular vote isn't a better system. Else, each state has 1 vote. In the event of a tie, defer to popular. Because essentially, 10 states in the union combined can decide for the entire union. So, just cuz I live in North Dakota my say doesn't matter as much as New York? Florida? California? That's not fair - I contribute just as much to this country as anyone else...and I matter just as much as anyone else (I don't really live in ND - I just remember they have only, like 1/2 an electoral college vote or sumtin!)
The 2000 election was more about egos & technicalities than anything. "You won. Congrat's" "Wait, I think I won - forget I said Congrat's" "Is this chad REALLY punched? It's kinda-sorta hangin on a little. I know all the others are securely attached, but did this person REALLY cast a LEGITIMATE vote?"
C'mon!! Ridiculous! If 2 people are marked, throw it out. If one person very obviously marked, count it. The man with the most votes at the end, wins.
Will the Tea Partiers favor a PipeLine in
Afghanistan?
Only if they are told to by the big (R) party, and only if they can find it on a map. Okay... that was just a cheap shot with no substance what so ever. Forgive me.
When compulsory mass schooling was introduced to train an obedient and docile workforce the ruling class promised themselves that the schooling would not foster critical and analytical thinking.
They have kept that promise to themselves.
Nader is yet again indulging in his habit of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" questions. Many of the Tea Party folks are demanding just the sort of reforms Ralph paints them as opposing, such as an end to gov't bailouts of corporations, easing of the parties' hold on primary rules, and a complete overhaul of tax laws and structures.
On the other hand, they do rail against nanny-state regulation over every aspect of human life and living, unreasonable constraints on war-fighting during times of active conflict, and nearly none of them have the same hatred of the concept of corporation as Ralph does.
My take is that if you ask 10 TP'ers 10 questions, you'll get 100 different sets of answers.
A common Teabagger statement:
Keep the Government out of my Veteran's Benefits and Medicare!!!!!!
How can one reason with such absurd reasoning - or lack thereof?
What we are dealing with here people are belief systems, some of which are in conflict with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Asking them questions only causes the bitter calluses of their beliefs to harden up more.
The only way to overcome such belief systems is by deprogramming.
Unfortunately, its spreading like an epidemic. The Tea Part Movement is an incurable disease.
We're smarter than you think, and very pissed.
Answers(If any of you liberal fools are interested)
1.Cut deficits by decreasing ALL spending; military is fair game along with all entitlements
2.I do condemn corporate bailouts
3.No problem: Support tax breaks for American producers of durable goods: more manufacturing here
4.I support a crackdown of ALL crime: street AND corporate
5.No one is invading my home, why not find terrorists faster?
6.Bullshit! I am a 20 year surgeon with an excellent record, my premiums are 53,000 per year. Something better be done about it.
7.I pay my bills on time. There is no credit issue
8.Dictatorship? I see many non-politicians winning elections. Stay tuned for more
9.The INDIVIDUAL must be protected from an overbearing government AND an abusive corporation
10.Taxes add costs to everything, whether through the corporation or after the fact. Spend LESS, tax LESS. Duh.
The democratic answers:
1.Create deficits that burden children yet to be born. Remove all incentive to work hard and succeed.
2.Bail-out everyone, every bank, every failed company, but screw the productive taxpayer
3.NAFTA? NAFFA: north american free flow agreement, of illegal aliens.
4.Criminals are not to blame for anything,they were neglected by society
5.Let the terrorists plot to kill more Americans. It's our fault that they are mad at us.
6.Screw and over-regulate all medical professionals, but let personal injury attorneys roam free, making insurance rates unaffordable for everyone, and siphon and cripple society as a whole.
7. Give credit to everyone, especially to those that can't afford it. Not to worry, we can rape the taxpayer to pay for it.
8.Create an overbearing government and remove all freedoms from individuals, so that individuals can serve a bloviated inefficient self-serving group of self-important but clueless individuals.
9. See number 8.
10. Tax everything, stifle everything to feed an inefficient government machine.
sketchbone,
False equivalencies R us?
While you were busy learning to cut people up for ridiculuosly exhorbitant fees, you missed out on your debating classes. I guess Ralph touched a nerve (pun intended) when he mentioned the skyrocketing malpractice rate.
On the other hand, if you are sincere, it's time to extract your brain from the PDR and latest blood cooling catheter techniques and read up on the development of fascist governments.
They ALWAYS pose as the defenders of individual liberty only to completely smash it after they consolidate their power. But then again, the Medical Doctors in Nazi Germany did alright under fascism so perhaps you would prefer that state of affairs?
As a member of a well respected group within our society, you should show a little more empathy for the people being trashed by the greedy, war profit loving pigs that govern us. Democrats are the same shit as Republicans.
As to your insurance premiums, your leverage as a professional was undermined by insurance crooks who paid off your congressperson and senator. That's how fascism works. The guy with gold makes the rules. The Tea party is just another front group for the corporatocracy.
Wake up, Doctor. You are being gamed by professionals.
Ridiculous exhorbitant fees?
In case you're interested in the truth, my take-home pay for a joint replacement is around $350, which includes 90 days of post-op visits. Medicare 1400/50% overhead(includes malpractice insurance) minus around 50% taxes.
I've read up a bit, given the events around me, thank you. A good book for you is "The Road to Serfdom" by F.A. Hayek. If you attempt to create the ideal society via socialism OR fascism, individual freedoms are removed, and all suffer. The haves(government) rule the have-nots(everyone else).
Want to reduce medical costs? 1. Tort reform 2. Lower income tax: a physician making 300k per year taxed at 50%'s take home is 150k. If the same physician's tax rate were 25%, an income of 200k would result in the same after tax income.Everyone I know would happily accept a 10% rate reduction if taxes were reduced significantly.
I and many others are wide awake, thanks to the idiots in charge. The game is changing. The individual is about to take charge over the government AND the corporation.
Stay tuned.
Hayek didn’t oppose all forms of government intervention. “The preservation of competition,” he wrote, is not “incompatible with an extensive system of social services — so long as the organization of these services is not designed in such a way as to make competition ineffective over wide fields.”
I can't find the quote, but he also made it clear that he FAVORED, as part of civilized behavior, a social safety net for the poorest members of society.
I'm sure that Hayek's view of competition WOULD NOT APPLY to Pfizer's fun and games with lipitor. You know the libertarian drill, "If people don't like a product, they won't consume it and therefore the market will preserve the company that makes the best product and eliminate poor quality". How does that work when people die from a drug? I'm sure they'll just stop taking it since they are dead but I don't take any comfort in it. I want an FDA and a justice department that puts people in jail for this sort of thing.
I used to visit LewRockwell.com regularly. His stuff sounds great until you try to apply it in the real world.
Tort reform? Sure, after we get an electronic congress with one rep for every thousand voters in session 24/7. No travel. No secrets. Every bill must be circulated and read for one month before being voted on. All reps receive minimum wage and work from their homes. All inter-rep correspondence is available to the public and every PENNY the reps get from corporate donors is online. The corporate crooks would go broke trying to buy a US congress with over 150,000 representatives. Real democracy is the only answer. That's why it won't happen.
The bribed whores in government are patsies. Your target should be wall street. with the current advancement in robotics and tele-operations, how long do you think you have until a Hospital administrator on the take from Wall Street doesn't outsource your job to a surgeon in India who will do it for one third your fee? People with genuine skills like yourself are under attack from the elite parasites in Wall Street.
We, so called, loopy socialists aren't your enemy. Wall street is.
Finally, of course the tax code is totally torqued. Ralph Nader knows all about it but he is merely taking it where it's at. The meaning of the word 'TAX' needs to be redefined before that can really be straightened out. In the meantime, how do you justify Buffett paying less tax than you and making 100s of times more?
Bet you a happy meal you can't tell me how insurance premiums are calculated. There are 2 pieces. The first is a an actuarial calculation based or morbidity tables. The second is the cost of servicing the policies. This piece also includes a "profit" for the insurance company. Of the 2 components, which do you think is larger?
When the main purpose of insurance was to spread risk, The larger cost was the actuarial portion. When insurance companies became corporations and went public, the definition of the term "servicing the policy" was twisted to include Wall Street and CEO pig outlandish profits. Now they've probably thrown in 'buying politicians' into the 'servicing the policy' umbrella so YEAH, now that's the big rip off.
I would not be surprized if the actuaries are gaming the numbers now because of pressure to increase profits. Why not? The politicians are making fraud legal! Insurance pigs are out of control.
A decent government would nationalize their ass. Then everyone could get decent rates from a surgeon to a cab driver.
We can certainly hope that for the sake of your patients you don't approach medicine the way you approach politics.
Why does Nader think we wouldn't want to answer these questions?
1. I can press for reductions in fraud and waste, and by that process reduce military budgets, but I will not be sidetracked from the fact that between three fourths and four fifths of federal expenditures are for things the Constitution does not authorize and that for that reason are illegal, no matter what the Supreme Court says.
2. No I can't and I do wholeheartedly condemn both the bailouts and corporate welfare.
3. I reject any provision of any treaty that would, if enacted, effectively cede Constitutional protections against the powers of our, or any other, governmental body except that the Constitution be specifically amended as provided for in Article V to permit it.
4.A "bigger and faster crackdown" is not necessary when the government ceases to use law as a means of obfuscating markets and playing favorites among businesses to reward political supporters. The problem starts with government creating law so labyrinthine that no one can really know that it means. Simplify the law. Define markets clearly, and enforce the simple law vigorously.
5. At some point we must trust our executive branch with powers intended to protect the whole nation. Even with the Obama administration I extend that trust. When the executive branch calls upon businesses to engage in assisting with lawful surveillance those businesses should know they will not be retroactively prosecuted for their cooperation as they would be were the nation to be taken over by a totalitarian regime.
6. I can be and am against the current regime of terror in tort law. I want a "loser pays" provision that makes frivolous abuse of civil courts very very expensive. Where someone has a real case this should not stand in the way of their day in court.
7. As to "fine print" contracts, that falls under the simplification of markets provision I stated above. I much, much prefer having private services keep watch over my credit, where abuses can be checked by jealously picayune government watchdogs than having the government itself take over such services where watchdogs dare not tread and every decision is made with an eye to how important I am or whom I support politically.
8. Yes. The fact that we have a two-party system is a feature of the fact that, unlike parliamentary systems where the populus chooses among myriad parties defined by petty differences and leaves the "big" questions to the "professionals" in the U.S. the ordinary voter chooses people based on how they perceive they will vote on things like the budget and who will be on the Supreme Court. The American voter is thinking really serious thoughts (or should be) and they tend, therefore, to choose among people who appear to be serious themselves. That is what really makes it hard to create a new party. The party most likely to die and make a new party possible? Surprise! The Republican Party.
9. I do think Congress should have to declare wars. Nader's question about corporations is superfluous. The Constitution says nothing about corporations because the chartering of corporations was then and still is a function of the STATES, as is the regulation of corporations. The Constitution enumerates no power for the federal government in this regard. I reject the sort of powers invented in the Kelo V. New London decision to grant eminent domain to corporations. Such powers were never meant to apply to any entity but government itself.
10. Taxation of corporations is a means of hiding the cost of taxes in the costs of goods and services. Politicians can claim to reduce taxes on the people in a bald-faced lie while the most crucial things purchased even by the poorest members of society cost upwards of a third more than they should just to play a shell game with the true cost of government. The only good tax is the tax people actually see and feel, so they can really assess the burden government places on society.
Ralph,
I am one of your supporters, but your focus here is off the mark.
These ten questions should be asked of the democrats and the republicans (Tea Party included).
Please re-read these questions as if they were put to the democrats and then you can see more clearly why you are asking them to begin with.
Thanks for all of your great work.
"Military spending NOW takes up half of the federal government’s operating budgets."
Ralph, is your memory failing you? DoD spending has been at least half of expenditures since 1980 maybe even since LBJ. I can't remember many aspects of the government's budget prior to 1980.
And I doubt the teabaggers would be interested in answering your questions. Being introspective and reasonable are not their strong suits. To me they resemble the white citizens councils topped with a heavy dose of imperialism.
Party discipline can be maintained over centuries; over an organization or movement for a few days, or until destroyers or cripplers of them arrive.
Greens are not a party but a movement. As such, it is allowed to exist. It hasn't been thus far destroyed.
Greens appear to comprise mostly middle and upper income people and other micmacs. Unions seem not support it; nor house people.
I suggest nader starts a party. I also wish he run for congress and not presidency. As a prez, he'd be dead, deposed, exiled within days or weaks of his presidency!
I do admire the man; yet i am an egalitarian;i.e each human being earning just by birth equl respect and equal pay for equal needs.
Remember please, that there is no extras after u are borne. Chasing for extras on which mismission u are being sent, appears the greatest delusion ever. tnx for ur black, white, yellow, and olive ear!
When it comes to the tea party, it seems that there are an abundance of walruses.
(Mr. Lennon said later in life he had originally misread the story, leading him to write "I am the Walrus", which he later recanted with the line "The Walrus was Paul" in "How do you sleep at night.")
Socialism is often conflated with the sadly neglected concept of "The Common Good". In a civilized, enlightened and humane society, the idea of common bonds and concerns ought to be at the forefront of all "politicized" debate, but isn't found in the scramble for wealth and power that defines the political process in this so-called "democracy". The argumentative, chest-thumping "debate", the dismissive, name-calling rants become, in the end, tiresome. If the Common Good can be dismissed as some sort of naive, utopian vision, then our civilization is nowhere near as "civilized as it likes to imagine.
Thanks, Ralph, for posing some important questions for ALL of us.
But, I don't think our Founding Fathers were all "Common Good". They set us up for exactly where we are. What I earn is mine. Simply because you chose a different path in life, making half as much doesn't mean I have to make up the difference for you. I may pay more in taxes, I'll grant you that. But, I shouldn't take home the same as you, after taxes, either. That's not right & not fair for the hard work & effort I put in, to get where I am.
In no way did I mean to imply that "Common Good" equates to "equality at any cost". It does not.
Here is what the right wing/Tea Party types have never been able to figure out. We will have either one of two things in this country. We will have:
A. A functioning, thriving society and culture; where our children receive good educations, where crime is relatively low, and the infrastructure is healthy and perpetually growing.
Or we will have....
B. A country where the people who receive most of the country's economic treasure do not pay their fair share in taxes.
We will not - we cannot - have both.
This isn't rocket science, folks. It's called Economics 101.
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Goshen, NY
Cicero: "Freedom is participation in power."
I love Nader. He's my favorite living hero. Once he's gone there will be nothing in this dying imperial cluster-fuck we call Amurka that will ever come close to the moral clarity and technocratic competence he embodies with respect to good governance. America needed him desperately, but it hasn't deserved him for decades.
I'll be happy to answer those questions.
1. the ONLY reason our Founding Fathers saw the necessary evil for government was for the defense of our country. Govt. is so massive right now, no one can audit or watch whose ripping it off, or how. Not to mention politicians in bed with those contractors and getting paid whether in campaign finance, or some way from those contractors. YES! We want to stop undeclared war. (That includes places like Serbia, Mogidishu, Darfur, etc.)
2. Corporate Welfare-GATT Nafta, and so on. I believe that we should have IMPORT taxes again-you import, whether you're a US company, or foreign company, you pay import taxes. PERIOD. As well as FLAT TAXES. IF you vote, you should also be a taxpayer. If you don't pay taxes, you don't need to vote, as you're voting yourself a place at the taxpayer feeding trough, of which you have nothing invested and nothing to lose.
3. Right now there are houses being ripped out of homeowners hands that 'LEGALLY' should be theirs, because the banks didn't follow the law with the paperwork. Selling the loans without transferring them on paper, by LAW, those homes belong to the people paying on them, not the banks. (What would happen to you if you sold a car to someone for $3500 and they paid you $50 and you signed your title over to them without the balance. No judge is going to rule that they owe you, they'll tell you that you were stupid, but the care belongs to them now. Same with these homes.)
NO BAILOUTS for banks, Fannie, Freddie, or any other company.
NO to the Federal Reserve. We've only had major financial depressions in this country SINCE the federal reserve has been created, or the same TYPE of bank. The Founding Fathers did NOT want a federal reserve....our economy for the last 3 yrs. is WHY.
ABSOLUTELY repeal the Patriot Act. As well as get a grip on illegal immigration, and airport security. I will not fly if I have to be touched, or walk thru a scanner showing my naked body.
Medical Malpractice-if that's what you want, fine....just stop BITCHING about the 'high cost of medical care'. YOU are going to pay for that medical malpractive at EVERY doctor's office. no cap. unlimited lawsuits. Just shut up about having such high doctor bills. So....you don't want any more drugs or medical breakthroughs? Fine. We'll stop the research NOW, live with what we have. The problem with drugs and treatments are that even IF they work fine in the experimentation, eventually humans will HAVE to try them, and they will affect each human being differently. What is MY medical miracle drug can kill the next person. But, hey, no new drugs, how's that for you? IF ANY drugs on the market have ANY side effects beyond a mild headache, how about we get rid of them? Just let everyone die off or die in pain? Is that ok? Is that what you want? Because you do not know how good a drug IS until it's been out there for a while used by thousands or millions of people.
I am absolutely for prison for white collar crime. No difference in status, and that includes Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Raines for their criminal behavior and hiding the economic devastation coming at us when they swore Fannie and Freddie were just 'fine', doing 'great' back in '04. No special country club prisons for them or any other corporate criminal. State or Federal prison just like any other con artist. EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HOWEVER...if a corporation makes 20 million overseas, and they are based in the US, that income is considered US income, not foreign, and not taxed out of the sky. WHY? Because they keep that money over there, they won't bring it here. It's in foreign economies, not ours.
I am a tea partier. But, I would also like to see some PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. If a company poisons or sickens people here in the US, they should be boycotted. Not only fined and shut down, but boycotted by Americans. Keep a list of these companies and the people in charge. If you don't like foreign products, don't buy them. Buy American. there are websites to go to that tell you what products and where and how to get them, and most are the same price or cheaper than foreign made.
Our country is FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE. NOT to serve governments OR corporations. BUT TO ALLOW the freedom of businesses to grow and people to start and run their businesses. IF they hurt someone, and that includes INDIVIDUALS, not just businesses and corporations, then they pay to those they hurt, NOT to the govt.
I am just shaking my head at what unrealistic, and cold people you TP's are....The answers you gave were either rediculous, or just mean !
Sure you would like to stop the wars ..with a smart ass remark, but not the poor blacks ,whom we have never helped yet anyway ,just talk about it, but people like you won't let us,we must only destroy, and kill people that we can get oil from. Jeeze war is hell...
Every person that buys something at the store PAYS taxes with each purchase, City ,State ,and Federal ,so everyone gets to Vote , you are not cool........
When a Banker tells a medium intelligent person, this will work good for you...most people believe it or that big, smart, college guy wouldn't say so...but you are perfect, and if he's a sucker, then we should just screw him....evil thinking !
The medical thing, if I thought like you, I would wish you, or your kid got sick and your insurance company didn't cover that illness, and you would Die ! Fortunately I am kinder than that. Not to mention we all pay enough taxes to give everyone excellent healthcare, if we didn't spend the money taking over the F*^_ng world !
Without your health, you have nothing, and you can not persue your happiness. If they take your house because your kid went and got Lukiemia...he's just a rotten kid !
You people just do not have your heads screwed on right ! You remind me of something your Bible says that Jesus said dying on the cross "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do "
You people are WITCH burners, Everything that we can look back on History, and see a terrible time, and horrible things we did to each other...these are the Ancestors of the "TEA PARTIER" the evil, the damned....Until you people have a change of heart, Evil and Greed, and all things that didn't have to be... will keep happening, you just can't see GOODNESS,or KINDNESS,the fact that War is not the answer as to how you get oil, just doesn't register with you. You people think it is our right to bully people, that's why you like war, and big killing machines, you think it's cool, because you want it ! I wish they would start buring the dead civilians you enjoy killing, in your front yard, maybe then you would be disgusted.
We are stuck with you, and can only hope in time, you will become better, nicer people, but we have waited for thousands of years...guess the reality of TP's is just like the Gays, they are part of the human condition...might as well face it !!!
Only difference ..I like gays, I base people on their individual merits, not on backward prejudices....shame on you TP TP TP TP TP TP TP Ech
I could say more, but it is a waist of breath, you are blind and can not see !
farmgirl says,
"Because you do not know how good a drug IS until it's been out there for a while used by thousands or millions of people."
There are procedures outlined and conducted by the FDA for new drugs. Your statement is incorrect. At present, corporate influence and corruption at the FDA is so rampant that we are just about back to the caveat emptor days of 19th century snake oil (cocaine in syrup made everyone die happy). That was your Tea Party paradise.
Like oil corporations who carry on about all the money they need for research, the pharmaceutical industry lies through their teeth. I have a cousin who is an industrial engineer at a pharmaceutical plant. The profits are routinely 3,000 to 20,000 percent. That's quite a cushion. You are concerned that big bad government is lording it over these poor nice folks too much? You are being lied to. THEY are the ones that want you poor and desperate. Corporations are good with propaganda but they have no culture of honesty whatsoever. And neither do our political leaders INCLUDING the Tea Party proto-fascists.
I haven't seen so many strawman arguments since a marathon showing of the Wizard of Oz. Who says the Tea Party participants don't hold these views?
It is also very amusing to hear a child of the 60s (Nader) attack those who are anti-establishment. Seems a bit ironic to me.
And finally, to hear the commenters here grouse about "closed minded" tea partiers, while at the same time towing the straight liberal line is just icing on the irony cake.
Workers of the World Unite! (haha)