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Erasing Arizona: Dark-skinned Mural Faces Ordered “Lightened” to Appease Bigotry
It is difficult to fully explain the impacts of Arizona's burgeoning and overt anti-immigrant climate these days. To outsiders it must seem like either the inmates have finally taken over the asylum, or alternatively that someone is finally standing up to an inept federal government. To those of us living here, it further appears as either a formalized decree of misguided policies that have long been in place below the radar, or a chance to finally push a brewing agenda to its logical and necessary extreme on a statewide scale. While all of these sentiments possess a kernel of truth, more to the point is that Arizona today has in many ways simply become a veritable theater of the absurd.
To wit: legalizing racial profiling, banning ethnic studies, dismissing teachers with accents, lauding "ethnic cleansing" policies, militarizing the border, seeking to abolish the 14th Amendment (the one that makes the bill of rights applicable to the states and makes anyone born here a citizen), and more. Still, all of this pales (pun intended) to a recent localized atrocity that speaks volumes to the climate of antipathy and purification being plied here in the desert. In a twisted feat of modernized and imposed "passing," artists in Prescott have been pressured to "lighten" the dark-skinned faces on a just-completed public mural due to a backlash inspired by a city council member who said that he failed to see "anything that ties the community into that mural."
In other words, the appearance of a brown-skinned face in the mural is not reflective of the community - despite the fact that demographic data indicates that people of color comprise over 15% of the regional population, and that in Arizona as a whole this demographic represents an estimated one-third of the state's inhabitants. In fact, and as a partial explanation for the mural flap, a 2008 population trend study commissioned by Yavapai College shows that the percentage of nonwhite residents in the area has doubled in the last twenty years and is continuing to rise. Mirroring patterns seen statewide, one can sense the backlash from people attempting to maintain the "old guard" status quo of well-defined power and race relations in the face of rapid change, as reflected in this comment from Prescott City Councilman and local radio host Steve Blair about the disputed mural:
"I am not a racist individual, but I will tell you depicting a black guy in the middle of that mural, based upon who's president of the United States today and based upon the history of this community when I grew up, we had four black families - who I have been very good friends with for years - to depict the biggest picture on that building as a black person, I would have to ask the question, 'Why?'"
As a follow-up to these remarks expressing a not-uncommon view about turning back the clock to a time when there were far fewer people of color here, Blair - who has a history of "past incidents involving race," as noted in a local editorial -- went on to opine:
"I'm not a racist by any stretch of the imagination, but whenever people start talking about diversity, it's a word I can't stand.... The focus doesn't need to be on what's different; the focus doesn't need to be on the minority all the time.... Art is in the eye of the beholder, but I say (the Miller Valley mural) looks like graffiti in L.A..... I don't see anything that ties the community into that mural."
Before we rightly condemn such notions, it should be noted that Blair was giving voice to a point of view that has dominated the political discourse here for generations. Indeed, R.E. Wall, director of the Prescott Downtown Mural Project, reported that he and the other artists experienced weeks of "tense working conditions" at the site, including regular racial slurs shouted from vehicles and passersby such as: "You're desecrating our school," "Get the ni--ers off the wall," and "Get the sp-c off the wall." The original article detailing the mural's completion drew a spate of vitriolic and racially-charged online comments that mirrored these verbal assaults. In an interview with the local newspaper, Wall observed that "the pressure stayed up consistently. We had two months of cars shouting at us." Eventually, he said, the demands reached such a level that his group was asked by school officials to lighten the faces of the mural's main subject, as well as the other children in the mural.
What message does this send to the school children (one of whom, in fact, was the model for the primary image that sparked the mural controversy) and others in the area with darker skin pigmentation? Just as depictions of emaciated models can encourage eating disorders and other dangerous practices in young women, so too can the impetus to "lighten" one's implicitly offensive and unwelcomed skin tone impact the mental and physical well-being of people of color. In addition to reflecting the current mood in Arizona due to its incipient climate of legislated intolerance, all of this harks back to the unfortunate era of "passing" by minorities in which whiteness was a desired norm that diverse individuals oftentimes attempted to achieve through both physiological and cultural affectations. In a modern version of this self-destructive phenomenon, Chris Hedges cogently described Michael Jackson as someone who "was so consumed by self-loathing he carved his African-American face into an ever-changing Caucasian death mask."
The history of race in America is complex, brutal, and unfortunately correlative of forces that continue to drive much of our politics today. Before the Civil Rights era, socially-enforced binaries of "white" and "colored" tended to dominate the landscape, creating for some great comfort in knowing who was who, but for others creating great pressures to either conform or be relegated as second-class. In recent years, the move toward a multicultural and multiracial society has abated some of the rigidity of the past, allowing more opportunity for self-definition and categorical mobility, but also contributing to a backlash among certain sectors that evidently long for a return to those simpler times when "white made right" and the rest of the herd knew its place in the pecking order.
I recently spoke with Dr. Anita Fernandez, professor of education at Prescott College and an expert on diversity, about these issues. She observed that in fact the mural was painted on "the most racially, ethnically, and socioeconomically diverse school" in the district, and further that "denying that children of color are representative of the school, and of our community, is based on a racist and intolerant ideology that is being fueled by Arizona's anti-immigrant and anti-Ethnic Studies laws." Further connecting the local controversy in Prescott to wider forces at work statewide, Fernandez continued:
"The ‘whitening' of children's faces is paramount to erasing the existence of an ethnic group, otherwise known as ethnic cleansing. The reaction of some in our community, including city council member Steve Blair, demanding that the faces of the children of color be whitened is a testament to the fear of growing diversity in Arizona. The irony here is that recent legislation outlawing Ethnic Studies in public schools perpetuates the ignorance of Arizona residents like those fearful of a mural depicting non-white children as representative of their community. What we need is more education from multiple perspectives infused into our public schools to prevent ignorant reactions such as these."
In this sense, we can begin to see Arizona's revanchist and reactionary laws and policies as creating a self-fulfilling ethos of racism and intolerance. The more that racial and ethnic divisions are reinforced through policing patterns and educational practices, the wider the rifts become. As demonstrated in apartheid regimes, increasing gaps in political power and economic opportunity that are enforced with race-based laws wind up requiring more such laws as well as the overt use of force to maintain their utility over time. The result is a slippery slope in which the very thing that is most feared by those in power - namely an empowered minority that undermines the existing social order - inevitably comes to pass as the dominant class overreaches in their attempt to "hold on" and winds up delegitimizing itself in the process. In the end, this is essentially a path to self-imposed oblivion, and Arizona's old guard may well be in the process of replicating it. Unfortunately, in this process, no one prospers and the resultant wounds can take generations to heal.
I have previously contended that the political situation in Arizona raises the specter of a "new civil rights movement" in America. But it isn't simply about immigrants or people of Latino descent at this juncture - more broadly, it concerns the essential movement from a society of polarized binaries to one of complex complementarity. For all of its successes, the post-WWII Civil Rights era did not fully achieve this aim, and in fact even its more focused goal of abolishing overt legal discrimination seems to have fallen short in retrospect. Modern movements around race, class, gender, sexuality, and ethnicity, for example, generally are more deeply engaged with matters of alterity, empathy, and representation. In other words, they are arguing not merely for equal rights to participate in a flawed system, but more so for spaces in which to explore and expand the array of identity constructions that befit the emerging world in which we find ourselves.
This ineluctable process is threatening for some, both in moral and socio-economic terms. While we can strive to empathize with this, we also need to resist the policies of retrenchment that are attempting to reinforce an outmoded and unjust order. Forcing the "lightening" of skin color on a public mural is yet another episode in the larger narrative unfolding here in Arizona. Indeed, what really needs more light cast upon it right now are these instances of intolerance that seek to drive us all back into the darkness.
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Excellent, well-written article. With respect to, "more broadly, it concerns the essential movement from a society of polarized binaries to one of complex complementarity," I would love to see an artist paint the figures of male and female children in their ethnic costumes all holding hands in a circle before the sun. Life is beautiful BECAUSE of its diversity!
EVERY religion should be teaching inclusion now if it wishes to see humanity continue! Unfortunately, the terrorist-brewed fear factor is causing a reverse reflex, one in which persons wish to retreat into their shells, live behind walls, only allot passage (into their cliques) to those who look, think, and act in similar fashion.
These authoritarian creeds always do backfire, but how many children's hearts will be wounded before the intended lessons come full circle?
When I read the opening to this article I thought it was going to be about a fictitious example. It's hard to believe a community can be that spiritually constipated... those in Arizona who see merit in racist policies of this nature need serious therapy!
America is fast becoming a ghost of its former ideals. Dead nation walking style.
Sioux, i've noticed numerous of your CD postings and your offerings appear articulate and engaging. However, the notion that America is "fast becoming a ghost of its former ideals" is, in fact, wholly inaccurate and not supported by history.
"A double-minded man (or nation) is unstable in all his ways,," To the extent that one would codify virtuous ideals for some but not others, and then grudgingly grant a degree of virtuous-ness to some, but not all. suggests to me that the "ideals" you refer to have indeed come full circle.
Chickens coming home to roost, as it were...
Sioux Rose
LAWBFREE: Yes, you are right in many ways. My favorite explanation came from an essay written by James Carroll several years ago, and posted on CD one July 4. He essentially stated (with marvelous use of example and metaphor) that America was a living entity ever striving to live up to its own stated ideals.
Now I fully understand, and will credit some members of this forum with enightening me to the facts, that The Founders never intended a TRUE democracy. However, given the authoritarian modes of life, those that wedded church (proclaiming the absolute word of God behind the unbearable laws of the times) to state, and what persons of THAT era were conditioned to accept (and understand), the inception of this nation was largely a novel and somewhat miraculous development. THAT it is yet to meet its own stated ideals remains an ongoing evolutionary process, one that seems to follow the "law of cycles." And by that I mean, if we observe a force so powerful as the ocean, its entire motion is set upon waves that roll backwards under themselves in order to gather forward momentum. History has its cycles of inversion, as would seem the case NOW in the U.S.A.
I am all too aware of the massacres of the Indigenous, the horrific fate of Black slaves, the early castigations of outsiders, the internment camps to the Japanese, the hearings on "anti-American" activities, the murders of some of the best leaders of ALL time (Dr. King being one of my heroes), and today's Chicago School morphing our nation into a 21st century, armed and dangerous, highly surveilled, cruel new form of feudalism.
My post therefore reflects the distance between what is and the STATED ideals--"That all men/women are endowed by their Creator with the right to the pursuit of happiness." (I apologize if the quote is slightly off.)
The framers of our government were enlightened men during the 'age of enlightenment'. They were also influenced in part by what they found in the New World inhabitants, the ways in which they governed themselves. But they lived in a reality of corruption, slavery, and elitism. That would help explain the dichotomy between what they wrote and what they practiced. It is hard to impoverish yourself by giving up slaves, indentured servants, and power--no matter how high your ideals me be. Also, they reflected the prevailing attitudes that 'common' or unpropertied people could not rule themselves, that women were unsuited to be an active part of the ruling class, that Gentlemen Farmers had the right of rule because of their property.
It a fact that all of us grow up in the times we live in. The Founding Fathers were hardly unique in that regard. Corruption, Slavery and Elitism live with us today. This hardly means our own leaders or ourselves for that matter should be given a pass if we continue to embrace it.
I'm not trying to excuse us, GwNorth, just explain why our Founding Fathers could write such heady stuff, and practice such evil. There is no excuse for racism, elitism, etc. Our F.F. mostly were gentlemen of their class, the ruling class. They were imbued with the new enlightenment. But they were still elitist rulers, and elitist rulers worship the bottom line, of whatever form it takes. These gentlemen were still the enemy, if you were a slave, or a Native American, or a poor or landless white-- or even a woman of their class. These gentlemen, for the most part, did what was expedient. Their descendants are doing the same today.
Was it really so "heady"? Please give the Declaration of Independence a re-read. Not the stuff about the Indian savages, and the Tea-Party-like pettyness of most of their complaints.
Sioux:
I could not agree more: The US certainly seems a "Dead nation walking."
You ask, "how many children's hearts will be wounded before the intended lessons come full circle?" I fear we are only witnessing the beginning of this country's descent into depravity. In my wildest dreams, even 10-years-ago, I could not imagine US society openly embracing, nor even passively accepting, extremist, racist, reactionary far-right policies as the normal part of its everyday discourse. That the skin color of the human beings depicted in the mural is subject to vitriolic debate--that it's considered controversial at all due simply to the predominance of people of color--speaks volumes about the level of regression in this country.
Sioux Rose
GIOVANNA: In my studies of the mystics, for many, there came a time when they were essentially forced underground, or realized it was time to move far away from the masses. To open one's sensory pores in a time like this is to incur incredible psychic pain; for there are massive levels of anger, anguish, and vengeance pouring out into the ethers, along with prayers for Deliverance.
I appreciate your words and honor your conviction. And I, too, can barely believe what's happening. NOTHING feels solid. As the poem by Yates relates, "The center cannot hold."
We know in our hearts and souls that our entire economy is now the product of dangerous fictions, those "instruments" of faux wealth designed by those same Chicago School sociopaths who have engineered the decline of nations on the basis of these phony fiscal approaches are headed home. The nation is both morally and economically bankrupt. Arizona shows the dis-ease most.
DNA, seeds, and natures's banks are all being emptied, bloodied, desecrated and adulterated... for profit for a few that never trickles down.
The money needed to PROTECT the nation is instead squandered on wars of aggression, and the U.S. has ENTIRELY lost any semblance of the moral high ground for its unconscionable deeds.
History has many examples of what happens when states become impoverished. Chief among them, that the hungry and frustrated population pounces on the least powerful. Usually the elites find ways to manage the dissent by turning localities into near Roman arenas so that the bloodlust can be projected at the chosen scapegoats, instead of towards the engineers of the policies that cripple so many.
I had a friend who lived in Miami and she knew a Holocaust survivor, one of those Ancient Miami women who still had the numbers tatoo'd into her wrist. THAT woman told my friend, "Don't think it couldn't happen here." Those words left me with a chill that still holds to this day. The unbelievable, along with The Unspeakable, are taking shape in our midst.
Sioux Rose: I am not convinced you are correct in sayting that the authoritarian creeds always backfire. A few years ago a 20 year-old woman stood up at a public meeting where I live (in the Mid West) and declared that the destruction of the World Trade Center was God's way of punishing the country for putting up with abortion and queers. No one criticized her for her statement, because those feelings are fairly common here.
Now, where did she pick up such ideas? Probably from her father, the deputy police chief, and a noted racist, homophobe and xenophobe. I am sure that he brings his family to church every Sunday, and they certainly do not hear such ideas there, but what they do hear seems to have no effect. We are about an hour's drive from a large city but the local area is still culturally isolated.
If a backfire is going to occur, it will take generations to develop.
Sioux Rose
SHEEPHERDER: I think they DO hear such ideas there. If you've ever tuned into the 700 club (years ago I was out in Arizona staying at Motel 6 and it was one of the only TV options on the air) or listened to the likes of Jerry Fallwell, they are very "clear" that it IS about gays, feminist "witches," and any who deviate from their idea of "the straight and narrow" path that not only are consigned to hell, but in their view can drag the rest along.
Granny D wrote something brilliant a few years ago, it may have even been her speech at a college graduation. What she essentially related was that when people live their entire lives following others' rules, they barely live at all. This causes incredible levels of repressed resentment. She said that these types identify with the unborn fetus (who they defend with massive levels of emotion) because it symbolizes the lives they've never LET themselves live. Thus "right to life" is really a manifestation of their own inner grief for never having lived at all!
In the powerful film, "Easy Rider," the young attorney advises the two long-hairs about the mentality of the South as thus: "They talk to you a lot about freedom; but a really free person scares them; and when they're scared, they're dangerous."
One could argue that the entire mentality of the USA today, having been propped up by the 24/7 pulsing media with threats of terrorism, is that same fear factor that causes people to turn on one another... and in particular, those they regard as being free or different. Arizona is a case study in this kind of neurotic reflex. And I would like to add an astrological metaphor here. The study of the workings of the heavens and earth is founded upon the indications of the 4 quintessential elements. Water, which Arizona lacks, is related to emotion and the capacity to feel, to extend feelings to form the bridge of empathy that leads to tolerance of other. I believe to the extent this law and its jingoistic clauses wins approval will be the degree to which Arizona will experience grave water shortages in coming years. Karma works through The Logos and will not be mocked. OUR Gulf bleeding oil is another such indication as it represents the karmic blowback of a war for oil that killed so many, so senselessly in the Gulf War.
My God SR, are you judging Arizonans based on the 700 club!
Please inform us on what basis Arizona should be judged, Prometheus.
On the truth rather than prejudice and lies.
So should we all be judged, and God help us all!
Sioux Rose
PROME: I am not going to respond to you further on this issue. Some very astute minds have laid it all out for you, but you revert back to your preconceived notions. You do this on several issues and it leads posters to not bother responding at all. In a number of arenas, seeking to engage you in debate you is about as effective as dancing with a wall.
PS: The 700 club reference was DIRECTLY related to something Sheepherder said regarding the religious flock. Did you deliberately take it out of context to try to undermine the essence of my overall commentary? If so, that's what I consider "dirty" fighting tactics.
SR
"that's what I consider "dirty" fighting tactics"
I didn't mean to do that by any stretch of the imiganation. And I think you know me enough to know I'm not a liar and I detest dishonorable actions. My apologies for even the appearence.
Thats one way of winning an argument. Yes, unless you can show something besides unsupported claims I tend not to give in.
"they only take jobs that Americans won't do"
"they don't surpress wages for American workers"
" they have everty right to enter our country illegally"
" insisting that they do NOT cost American citizens for their support.
These and most every one of the falacious claims made by the cheap labor lobby are shown to be false but any reasonable measurement. I have no interest in debating anyone that doesn't use facts so I won't miss the fols you mention. Ideology is the killer of real thinking.
If anyone wants open borders or cheap labor they only need to say so.
Hope the oil doesn't get there.
Sioux Rose
PROMETHEUS: You carry the old school chivalry and that is apppealing, but this topic has been rehashed and the best points have long ago been made. I am tired of repeating them. As soon as the unspeakable is countenanced towards any racially profiled group (and many have had the "privilege" of being brutally targeted in this land) the precedent is set to use similar tactics on others. In these authoritarian times with the erasure of significant Bill of Rights liberties, no one should be advocating to give "the authorities" yet more power over citizens, especially on the basis of flawed judgment calls that reek of prejudice. I know you think because someone wears a uniform they generally deserve respect. That is the opposite of my thinking.
And fellow poster, Please... it's imagination (not imiganation) and appearance, not apparence. Dictionary help!
Alas, the oil... I wonder if some of Playboy's would-be bunnies would volunteer to pose nude with the gunk all over them (for a special Earth Mother edition); and if that might wake up all those imbeciles still driving the gas guzzling ridiculously over-sized vehicles. Size matters!
Based on experience (as a male homosexual, a non-conformist, an anti-war radical), those in uniform are not friendly and do NOT deserve respect. This is a generalization, but one that is true enough to have saved me much grief in my dealings with authority. Right now I'm dealing with the Border Patrol, here in Arivaca AZ. These men (and a few women) are generally nice and polite and even cordial. They have gotten to know me by sight, and we nod to each other and they wave me through the checkpoints with a smile. But I've experienced what happens when I have a dark skinned passenger. It involves getting out of the car, having it searched, being asked for my ID, etc. The Uniforms?--not so nice. No, they don't racially profile. Not in Arizona. Oh, as to oil or gas, I could open my own oil company if I had all the gas guzzled by all the cars, trucks, vans, jeeps, and helicopters used by the Border Patrol. The neo-conservative idiots stirring up all this shit in Arizona claim that Obama has no federal immigration policy--but he does. It's to throw as much money as he can at the 'problem': buy more equipment, build more walls, hire more Border Patrol. If that's not a policy, I don't know what is. Yes, size does matter!
I googled Councilman Blair ( steve@blair4prescott.com ) and wrote the following to him:
subject: People are not graffiti
Mr. Blair:
I have just read about the outrageous plan to "whiten up" a mural at an elementary school which depicts children of various ethnic and racial backgrounds.
You may "hate" the word diversity, but diversity is what we as people, and as American people, ARE. We are more than you. We are more than me. We are more than all the people we have ever met. We are more than the folks we feel familiar and comfortable with. We are children who don't look like you. We are children who don't share the same background as you. We are children who do not look like both of our parents. We are children who look different than some folks are accostomed to seeing in their communities. We are children who may have a newer perspective. We are grown-ups who find it difficult at times to change.
But, change we must. We must open our minds and our spirits to the changes before us. We must cast off our old, tired, preconceptions of what, and who we are. We must accept that diversity IS. To hate it is to hate what we are. What America is.
In the spirit of democracy
a citizen of this land
"Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are."
Hate to nit pick, but Prescott is not in the desert. It is in a mountainous region in the central part of the state and has long been the site of many camps for religious and other groups. I remember going to a Baptist camp there when I was a boy back in the 50s. As far as demographics go, it is much 'whiter' than places like Tucson or Phoenix.
Arizona has been rabidly anti-Mexican ever since it became a territory, then a state. This racism flares up with alarming frequency. Mexican/Americans (or those who were living here when the United States 'grabbed' the place after the Mexican War) were used as miners when convenient, and paid much less than Anglos. They were used as farm workers, when convenient, and paid much less than Anglos. When not convenient, they were hounded out of the state, or marginalized, or persecuted. For instance, there was once a policy in Phoenix, when it was a rather small town, to keep 'Mexicans' out. In the Tucson area, Apache tribes were encouraged to raid Mexican settlements and wipe them out. The current flap over illegal immigrants is not the first time Latinos have been marginalized. And do not forget that Arizona tried to be a Confederate state during the Civil War. Racism is still rampant in Arizona, not ever far from the surface. I am ashamed, but not surprised, by Steve Blair's comments.
These original inhabitants of the state were not used to the arbitrary border that suddenly arose when the 'gringos' came. Many still have a hard time accommodating themselves to it. Singularly and as a group they have contributed mightily to Arizona, in culture, politics, and economics. It would be well for the more arrogant and racist gringos who benefit from the Latino presence to remember that.
Such are the consequences of losing the Mexican American war. I hate to nit pick but the territory you seem to think was "grabbed' was actually purchased by the United States as part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (1848) for 15 million dollars and Gadsen Purchase (1853) for 10 million dollars. The United States was also dealing with Mexico's corrupt militarily occupied interim government which was forunate to have been paid anything. This is yet another race baiting article from Common dreams.
The United States is used to purchasing huge tracts of land with token payments and beads (when dealing with aboriginal native Americans). You attitude of 'to the winner, goes the spoils' is typical gringo thinking. It is a variation of 'might makes right'. We need a few more Vietnam experiences to teach us a little about 'reality'.
And don't talk to me about corrupt governments. The United States has written the rules for corrupt governments, ever since 1776. In Mexico, they are a little more out front with it. Badger, if I'm a race baiter, you are a conservative racist. Your little note confirms it.
Gringo? Perhaps a little less racist name calling would benefit a reasonable discussion.
Is there a time in human history when "to the victor, go the spoils" did not apply? It's how the early inhabitants of this planet acquired territory which in time turned into civilazations, then country's. Right or wrong it's how humans roll. If you read my post you would see that I refered to the article as race baiting, not your post.
Sorry, badger, about not reading our note more carefully. But I still insist that a country with ideals as high as the United Sates claims to have should do better with its land grabbing. And it IS land grabbing, no matter what we call it officially.
Apology accepted of course. Can you name one Country that wasn't "grabbed" into existence? I know England and France for example were grabbing each other for centuries. How bout those grabbing Romans and Viking's and what they finally ended up with. In fact, if you really think about it, history is all about who was trying to grab what. I think my point here is that the word "grab" overly simplify's a otherwise very prominate and complicated human tendency.
Pathetic as it is, name one Country. Where in my post do I say it's the best way to be. I was trying to give this thread some context.
I will take that as a "I can't name one"
Sounds good, and the beef you enjoy tonight just may have been raised right here on my ranch. Enjoy!
"To the victors go the spoils" have been around since the beginning of mankind. It would be nice to think that humans have outgrown such a notion but sadly that is not the case. Unfortunately many are in denial about how Native tribes raided and conqured territory from other tribes. The image they try to potray is one of a blissful, peace loving people who never seen war, disease, hunger or pestilence when this was simply not the case.
BTW send me a couple of NY Strips. The weather is fine and I'm ready to fire up the grill!
While your history is correct, I don't see any racism in this article. Its simply a bald appeal to support the cheap labor agenda.
Less Racist name calling would help everyone.
Refering to a article as race baiting is far different from racist. A distant cousin perhaps. I would agree that the term "racist" mostly inhibits intelligent debate. Unless of course we are talking about Ron Gochez,(see YouTube Video) then the gloves come off.
It's interesting that no one has touched my Ron Gochez comment some nine hours ago.
Oh, the word gringo applies, Prom. Anyone who has had experience with both their own culture and Mexican or Latin American culture knows what gringo signifies. It's not racist. It describes a form of thinking, a way of behaving (usually over the top), a set of spoiled, middle class assumptions that are completely unconscious, and that the average Latino considers insane. I've seen gringos at work and play, I've even observed 'gringoness' in myself on occasion. I AM one of the spoiled, middle class whites that typify the gringo, after all. It's just that I'm aware of it. I've traveled in Mexico enough to be able to laugh at myself.
As for the cheap labor agenda, we are in complete agreement. I feel that illegal immigrants should have to abide by the laws of the land (except for really stupid ones) as much as anyone, but I feel they deserve some basic protection, and that includes fair wages for their labor. That's a problem that is not exclusive to illegal aliens. In Arizona, a right to work state, everyone that doesn't belong to a union and that has a job below the white collar level is underpaid. That's the first thing I noticed when I moved from Tucson to San Francisco and started earning a descent wage. Of course, if I were a Latino, I probably would have ended up picking fruit at very low wage.
Where in my comment does it say that the US didn't invade Mexico. The us invaded a disputed territory, Mexico lost, they were paid peanuts. So what.
It was not a disputed territory. Stop trying to change history.
It certainly was disputed, from 1846 to 1847.
I keep wondering why you never include Spain as yet another european country that, with the help of other Mexicans, wiped out the entire Aztec empire. The Spainish built Mexico city and gave the indigenous people a new language and religion. Im sure you speak spainish, the language of a genocidal land grabbing european country. Spain raised far more hell in Central America than the United States which at least paid for the land.
very wordy and prolix and non specific article
Why does the first paragraph not have a who/what/when/where summar for the reader - details, details, where is the mural, what is the wall made of (brick, stucco) what type of paint, who painted it, when, what does it show, who wants it changed, did they change it and how, etc etc
after that the author can (although not recommended) get into these abstract wordy paragraphs about the "mood" in AZ.
I also object to the common liberal attitude of not understanding or symphathizing with the idea that IllEGALITY is a serious issue. surely every reader of commondreams would object to corporate illegality.
I haven't been to AZ, but it does sound like they have some legitimate beefs; maybe expressing thier concern in the wrong way, but why is there zero sympathy in the liberal community for whatever is reasonable in their complaints ?
"but why is there zero sympathy in the liberal community for whatever is reasonable in their complaints ?"
Is it reasonable to ban ethnic studies programs in the public schools, when a substantial percentage of the population is Latino?
Is it reasonable to demand that the faces in a mural showing school children show only white children?
The only reasonable part of their complaints is the one pertaining to the failure of the federal government to do anything about reforming immigration. But these people do not want immigration reform - they want the equivalent of the Berlin wall to keep Latinos out. Judging from the comments I have seen, they would be happy if machine guns were part of that wall, as they were in Berlin.
We have no need to reform our immigration policies except to streamline and remove some of the costs from immigration put in by immigration attorneys for their profit.
Is it unreasonable for a majority of Americans to ask that their laws be respected. If all Latinos respected our immigration laws this issue would not exist.
I had a friend from France answer that. She asked why Illegals should respect our immigration laws if we didn't? Why indeed?
Latinos are only a bit over half of the illegal aliens here, they just get all the press. We have illegals from everywhere, so the probl;em would still exist if every Latino went home.
"Is it unreasonable for a majority of Americans to ask that their laws be respected". When did the law belong to a majority of Americans? This statement points squarely to the problem, all of the people own America and by extension, the Law, if such terms will be used. I guess it could be argued that Corporations 'own" America, since they control Congress and the Supreme Court. I'm still giving Mr. Obama a little more time, but it looks kind of like they got him too.
I can agree with you on this one.
If all people, of any nationality, respected all of our laws, this would still be happening. Resentment and racism is not about "the law." Just want to point out that if everyone had always been willing to 'follow all of our laws,' then we would still have the Poll Tax and Jim Crow.
Jujst?
This reminds me of a movie (many years ago) with Anita Ekberg (I believe) in which an Italian city (Rome?)allowed the placement of a huge billboard advertisement for milk. On the billboard was an essentially nude Anita. A prudish man who lived nearby and who could see the billboard from his apartment kept calling the city government demanding that the billboard be torn down which the city refused. Finally he walked up to the billboard and started ranting at Anita who reached out, lifted him up and nestled him at her abundant bosom.
Of course the Arizona case is not funny but despicable.
Thanks for the levity...I think I'll go out and rant at the first Beyonce' Poster I see..LOL