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Obama's Criticisms of the Warren and Burger Courts
Yesterday I wrote about what seemed to be President Obama's fairly stunning disparagement of the Warren and Burger Courts (expressed on the eve of naming Justice Stevens' replacement), as he echoed the classic, decades-old, right-wing claim that those courts were guilty of the "error" of "judicial activism." As I noted in an update, numerous people, in comments and via email, objected that I had misinterpreted Obama's remarks, that he was merely noting the hypocrisy of the Right but not himself criticizing those courts. As it turns out, The New York Times' Charlie Savage and Sheryl Gay Stolberg understood his remarks exactly as I did, as did the experts on both sides of the spectrum they interviewed, and the White House itself seemed to confirm that this is exactly what Obama intended to convey:
Obama Says Liberal Courts May Have Overreached
In a seeming rejection of liberal orthodoxy, President Obama has spoken disparagingly about liberal victories before the Supreme Court in the 1960s and 1970s -- suggesting that justices made the "error" of overstepping their bounds and trampling on the role of elected officials. . . .
Mr. Obama's comments, which came as he prepares to make a Supreme Court nomination, amounted to the most sympathetic statement by a sitting Democratic president about the conservative view that the Warren and Burger courts - which expanded criminal defendant rights, required busing to desegregate schools and declared a right to abortion - were dominated by "liberal judicial activists" whose rulings were dubious. . . .
Several conservatives said they welcomed an acknowledgment by a Democratic president that the courts led by Chief Justices Earl Warren and Warren Burger had sometimes overstepped their role.
I bet they did welcome it. Now, there's nothing sacrosanct about those courts, and there's nothing per se wrong with criticizing them. But given that the defining rulings of those decades have long formed the bedrock of the progressive understanding of the Constitution and the judiciary, that the dominant Justices of that era (Brennan, Marshall, Douglas, Black) are the iconic liberal judges of the 20th century, and that those decades produced the most vital safeguards for core Constitutional guarantees and critical limits on executive power, Obama -- as I said yesterday -- should at least specify which decisions he finds "erroneous" and illegitimate. But the imperial decree has been issued and that's apparently all you need to know:
The White House declined to identify rulings that Mr. Obama believes relied on judicial activism.
The absolute dumbest political platitude in the vast canon of right-wing idiocies has long been the premise that courts act improperly -- are engaged in "judicial activism" -- whenever they declare a democratically enacted law invalid on the ground that it is unconstitutional. That's one of the central functions of the courts, a linchpin of how our Constitutional Republic operates. We're not a pure democracy precisely because there are limits on what democratic majorities are permitted to do, and those limits are set forth in the Constitution, which courts have the responsibility to interpret and apply. When judges strike down laws because they violate Constitutional guarantees, that's not a subversion of our political system; it's a vindication, a crucial safeguarding of it.
But now, here is Obama giving credence to that idiocy with his sweeping, unspecified condemnation of the Warren and Burger Courts as "judicial activists." If, as Obama argues, some (or many) of the decisions of that era are "errors" of activist overreaching, wouldn't the current Court be justified in reversing them? And won't Republican Senators be justified in demanding that Obama refrain from nominating to the Court anyone whose records seems compatible with the defining judicial approach of those courts (since, after all, even Obama acknowledges they were in "error")? Why is Barack Obama walking around echoing the right-wing/Limbaughian view that the Supreme Court's decisions of the 1960s and 1970s were illegitimate, anti-democratic power grabs?
It's one thing to argue, as Obama has previously, that it sometimes makes more sense to accomplish political goals democratically rather than through the courts, and that liberals in the past have been too reliant on judicial victories in lieu of persuasion and organizing. As a general strategic proposition, I don't disagree with that view. But that has nothing to do with the proper role of judges, which is to strike down any and all laws brought before them which violate the Constitution. That core principle is the one Obama is disparaging.
In their NYT article this morning, Savage and Stolberg suggest that Obama may be motivated by a desire to protect progressive legislation from being struck down by the Roberts Court (as they did in Citizens United):
John McGinnis, a conservative law professor at Northwestern University, said, "[Obama's] party is in control, so of course he wants deference" to legislation enacted by Congress in the current era.
That's a fair enough objective, but demanding judicial deference to democratically elected laws is incredibly short-sighted and destructive. As Bush critics tried (unsuccessfully) to explain to the Right throughout the last decade, the party in power doesn't stay in power forever. Principles that you endorse and powers you vest when your party is in control don't disappear once the other party takes control, as it inevitably will. The changes one party makes to our political system endure once the other party takes control.
Publicly discrediting the core judicial function may serve Obama's short-term political goals by deterring the Roberts Court from striking down laws enacted by the current Congress or actions he takes as President. It may win him a day's worth of plaudits from right-wing legal ideologues. But it also further entrenches the right-wing myth that judges act illegitimately when they strike down democratically elected statutes or "interfere" in executive actions. That won't apply only when it comes time to examine Obama's domestic legislation, but also when it comes time to adjudicate the next Military Commissions Act, or the next oppressive anti-gay referenda, or future efforts to restrict Internet content, or twisted (but democratically-enacted) abortion laws, or government programs to spy on Americans without warrants, or the latest police state expansion of the type just enacted in Arizona, or whatever else the next GOP majority is able to implement. The basis for constitutionally challenging such acts is found in the jurisprudence that Obama just demeaned.
The prime attitude of the Bush administration towards courts was that they had no business interfering with whatever the Executive branch and the GOP Congress decided to do. It's unsurprising that Obama is now echoing that same perspective, but that doesn't mean it's harmless. There are ongoing, very live disputes over the proper role of the courts, and Obama, intentionally or otherwise, just bolstered the right-wing arguments in those debates by embracing long-standing cartoons of the Warren and Burger Courts.
UPDATE: With regard to the other topic here from yesterday -- the Obama DOJ's issuance of a supboena to Jim Risen -- see this Washington Post article headlined "After reporter's subpoena, critics call Obama's leak-plugging efforts Bush-like." The article, by Howard Kurtz, explains that the subpoena "has convinced some press advocates that President Obama's team is pursuing leaks with the same fervor as the Bush administration" and includes this:
"The message they are sending to everyone is, 'You leak to the media, we will get you,' " said Lucy Dalglish, executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. In the wake of the Bush administration's aggressive stance toward the press, she said, "as far as I can tell there is absolutely no difference, and the Obama administration seems to be paying more attention to it. This is going to get nasty."
It was once the case, not all that long ago, that those who pointed out the extreme similarities between the Obama and Bush administrations in these areas were accused of being hysterical, impetuous purists. It's now the case that those who do so are guilty of nothing more than stating the obvious.
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Show AllAh, Glenn baby, one knows you are a lawyer and all that ,and that's where your "education" was and where your bread is buttered, but guess what, the Supreme Court is bought and sold by the Corporatists, just like the politicians.
Start doing some serious mental work, Glenn baby.
You have considerable natural intelligence and a lot of balls--start using them outside the coordinates rather than within.
Could we substitute the word "constitutional" for the word liberal?
I'm tired of giving extremists legitimancy they don't deserve and ceding the mainstream to bunch of royalists. These labels pertuates an artificial divide and t paralyzes the nation.
Obama is a good little corporate employee. Our job is to make him understand that he is playing a losing game.
Meanwhile, instead of writing Glenn, write the White House and tell them you want a court that gives human being at least the same rights as corporations. http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
The Constitution is dead.
It was essentially over with the Watermelon Army.
Sorry to break the news to you so suddenly but thought you would like to know.
Bush called it "a goddamned piece of paper", and to this day that statement has not been seriously challenged.
And merely by the way, even if the "Constitution" were not a dead letter there is no provision in the "Constitution" for the Supreme Court being the "court of last resort" constitutionally. Not a word.
That was the coup of 1803, Marbury vs. Madison.
I sum things this way:
1) the USA is a really a conservative nation. PERIOD. regardless of all the discussions about there being pockets or "movements" or "real values of americans" as "progressive" or to the "left" ....that is simply NOT the case. america is a CONSERVATIVE country. period.
2) polls clearly can be depended on in this case for reflecting the actual character of americans as a nation: that by their own decision-making, their own nationalisms, their own ideas of "patriotism", their own varieties of EXCUSES and justifications and denials for decades about the true IMPERIALIST character of their own nation....americans have chosen to align themselves with an "obama supreme court judge that is *moderate*"
SUPPOSEDLY. but moderate or "middle of the road" in america is like its politics, media, conservative economics, etc....
it is really a RIGHT of 'center' embedded within a conservative world-view. after all -- someone LIKE , say, cynthia mckinney, or ralph nadeer , who are HARDLY THAT leftist by miles
are considered "Far left wing radicals" by some or in general...
3) obama - whether he is a principle person or not, as a politican merely keeps putting his finger in the air - and "reads" that america is INDEED conservative..and WILL choose and reflect what america after all, deep down, WILL prefer...a CONSERVATIVE judge and supreme court. there is no question but that , despite the supposed "worries" about a "conservative court" , america actually prefers THAT. always has. why ELSE are people blase about the criminalities already promulgated so many times by the conservative courts anyway, from George Bush's crowning, to the terrorism question, to torture, to "extra judicial" , extra-constitutional, extra-US border matters?. he would NOT dare to criticise these former "liberals" or whatever they are called then or nowadays, and certainly NOT reverend martin luther king, jr. UNLESS OBAMA is completely IN BED with the very forces and ideology of conservatism.
why else are americans in general blase about their own IMPERIAL wars? but on the other hand produce the most conservative characteristics of ULTRA -nationalism?.
OBAMA is merely leaking his ultimate decision, already made, for a conservative judge .. that of course everyone will try to celebrate as "moderate".
Obama is himself a conservative. there is no question of that. a conservative of the Reagan mold at the very least. anyone can name the most dominant characteristics of all the US "conservative presidents" - and each of those, in its own way, have found their combined appearance in Barack Obama.
he is their wet dream actually.
and , for that matter, despite america's WOES created by its OWN CONSERVATISM - america's own wet-dream.
let them wallow in it together. I just wish its effects did not have to mess other people's lives, like mine and so many others' around the globe.
Obama and American Conservatism - they are one and the same thing, including their messing up the world and people.
I think you make an interesting argument but my take is that this national "conservatism" is manufactured - by the framing of every issue and almost every poll. Like Lakoff discussed in another post, many people are capable of carrying both lib and con concepts. Depending purely on the framing of a quesion or poll their reactions are entirely predictable.
I certainly don't disagree about Obama. But if this is a center right to right country it is because our entire existence is shown TO us with this as the intended result.
HI to those that responded with very well-thought and considered responses to my post. I'll just put here my response as one to all of you.
I think that while it can be argued - as we often have, for sure - that americans are "conservative" because they are "made that way" or "guided" that way (such as the corporate over-class designing the "frame" of references, politically, economically, culturally, etc) ..
in the final analysis, it REALLY doesn't matter HOW americans are like that -- how the USA is in fact , imo, a "conservative" country, politically, culturally (and this despite the preponderance of the trappings of modernity which often are more like juvenile habits: overt sexism, consumerism, "fun", loudness of culture, sentimentality, etc.) and economically . it doesn't matter whether it is true that americans are like that because of the insiduous subconscious molding BY the powers-that-be...or whether americans , for their being americans and in their own minds, convince themselves that "to be american" IS to behave and think the way they do: CONSERVATIVES at heart --
what matters is what they ARE. what the USA IS : a CONSERVATIVE nation.
and in a sense, seen either through "being molded" or gravitating towards conservatism by choice, EVERYTHING that arrives in american life that have proven to be disastrous, divisive, selfish, unsocial, provincial is BEcAUSE of what americans ARE, regardless of the "how they came to be like that": conservatives, whose idea of "expanded consciousness" as a people NEVER really goes beyond the bounds of "what being american means" : which is that which is CONFINED to a mentality that thinks that "france is so far-left"...that the "reds" must be some kind of anti-democratic folks, that to even TALK about socialism is a BETRAYAL of america....that "reforming" what are the inherently destructive fundamentals of american "WAY" -- as have been proven again and again when "the bill comes" after every american "choice" of moving EVER MORE CONSERVATIVE (and now even fascistic) - really amounts to merely TINKERING with something "the american way" - which is ITSELF the PROBLEM - not just for the world, but FOR americans THEMSELVES.
consider this comparison:
even as CHINA is a politically totalitarian-governed "communist country" - which, coupled with china's own native historical habits, is quite ALIEN to the concept of 'american democracy' which americans EQUATE generally with "freeom and capitalism" (and they can be re-ordered in that equation) -
when you think about it - the CHINESE as a population, DESPITE the very strict control of their government are actually FAR MORE PROGRESSIVE and forward looking THAN americans ARE and have EVER been.
for example:
despite the chinese population - for want of a better word: being "coerced" by their government, along with their natural cultural habits - to behave in a certain way that americans or "western democracies" might think are "unprogressive" or "not neo-liberal enough" ...the chinses, as a POPULATION hav eactually gone FARTHER on THEIR end, than americans HAVE on THEIR end - in extending THEIR consciousness of what their society can become:
such as "having more freedom of individuality, self-expression, criticism of government" which even can cost them their very lives.
in CONTRAST americans - ACTIVELY conspire as a population - not JUSt to go along with what THEIR government , at the behest of corporations, DRIVES them year by year, towards MORE conservatism - EVEN WHEN THE RESULTS are CLEARLY against their own declared self-interests:
the GREAT PRINCIPLES upon which they define themselves as americans that OTHERS "are not" :
"freedom of expression, criticism of government, for the good of all, all-for-one and one for all" and all such fancy notions.
in reality -- when SHOWN examples:
such as the stability of the FRENCH "quasi-socialist" system in the midst of the "great recession" and others like it, americans actually , like termites, SURROUND the very principles that CAUSE them great distress!!! -- CONSERVATISM!!!
where the chinese population STICKS OUT ITS NECK far more to TEST its own government's resolve - and by thus doing, actually INFLUENCE its government as to what KIND of society they will become (has anyone ever thought of that?) -
americans actually gather together around the VERY SAME things that are "the american" way that is source of their distress:
the SAME "conservative" HUBRIS and exceptionalism which prevents them from even IMAGINING as a POLITY that there IS such an alternative like "socialism" (as Einstein was convinced of) that does NOT necessarily dissolve their notions of "individuality" (but in fact, might even ENHANCE IT by unshackling them from the corporatist idea of "individuality" - which is just another word for the american WAY of CONFORMITY).
consider:
there are likely MORE chinese that actually work hard to have "western ideas" and practices , such as "democracy", "capitalism" etc....without FEAR of LOSING their "chineseness" and in fact EXTEND themselves FARTHER OUTWARDS in their explorations of reality .
where americans CONFINE themselves, BY CHOICE, whether in the kind of politicians they DO choose , in the final analysis, or the system they participate in and are COMPLICIT in forming, regardless of what else people might say about being "coerced by corporations" .
I am not talking of "conservatism" as merely of the "cultural" matters. of course people in every culture want to "conserve" their traditions, cultures , ways of thinking, history, etc....while guiding themselves to progress forward into the future.
but in the PROCESS of "progressing forward in time" WHILE trying to conserve or more precisely, PRESERVE, their cultures (inherently a conservative idea in itself) - many cultures, such as the example of CHINA - ACKNOWLEDGE and even WELCOME the "changes" if they SEE that it can benefit them and turn it into PART of their "preserving" themselves.
but AMERICANS? they REFUSE to welcome "foreign" elements EVEN if such things CAN benefit them:
unfortunately , i can't really explain myself with greater force or clarity......but I am convinced that americans and america ARE conservatives.
conservatives wrapped in the trappings of "modernity" through technologies, gadgets, etc....
but , despite the general high education achievements (college education, at least high-school education, etc) intellectually, philosophically and politically , BACKWARD.
IMO, this is demonstrated most of all in the great difference between
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american notions of america's PLACE in the world:
that it is the WORLD that MUST behave LIKE america...and IN america "the world must behave LIKE america".
while much of the rest of the world, for example , rising china, or russia - NEVER have given the sense that "the world must behave LIKE russia or china"....but that they CAN and WILL absorb from the world what they find useful (such as china's opening up to "market economy", or russia, in fits and starts, trying out more "democratic" things , albeit with its own internal limits) ....without ANY of them trying to ENFORCE their notion of "what the world must be like"
"russian world, chinese world, French world, brazilian world". etc
ONLY america ADHERES to this notion which americans show THEIR conservatism for REFUSING to see it as the world IS:
it is NOT america and should NOT be molded or expected to BE molded "in the image of america".
americans like to think that theirs is , true enough, a "nation of immigrants" but REJECT the immigrants that bring "foreign" elements that can not be "absorbed" and turned into what they think is a "supra-national" american way - which is nothing more than an artifially constructed and imposed "white colonial" way ...unlike for example : china BEING china, or russia being russia or iran being iran
BECAUSE that IS what they HAVE been for centuries , naturally, organically EVOLVED that way...but also actually ABSORBING foreign influences.
The PNAC was written and the goal was to invade two countries, Iraq and Afghanistan, once the "Pearl Harbor Type Attack" was executed.
Obama and all His Council on Foreign Relations Advisers are quietly waiting for the influx of new right wing republican congressmen after the elections of 2010. With a totally conservative congress, there will be one more "False Flag Attack" creating the emergency necessary to invoke "Marshall Law" ...
"The New World Order", as defined by Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski and their organizations: Council on Foreign Relations and Tri-Lateral Commission, is so close to total fruition "They" just need one more "Attack"
It is too bad that Glen and all the rest of the writers and reporters refuse to mention organizations like: The Council on Foreign Relations, Tri-Lateral Commission, or The Bilderberg Club.....All of which were started by The Rockefellers and, at times, directed by Henry Kissinger, and Zbigniew Brzezinski. "They" have been the policy makers who made the U.S.: Start a war in Viet Nam, Invade Afghanistan and Iraq, Deregulate Wall Street, Legalize Fraud as a valid business ethic, Responsible for the deaths of over 5 MILLION Vietnamese, Iraqis, and Afghans, Responsible for the deaths of over 65,000 American Soldiers, Responsible for the early deaths of over 200,000 American Soldiers from fatal diseases caused from contact with Agent Orange, Agent Pink, Agent Purple, Napalm, Depleted Uranium and Suicides, Raise the National Debt to 12.9 TRILLION DOLLARS.....
And, Obama wants a more conservative court so he can put more Americans on his Assassination List...Imagine, a U.S. President having an "Assassination List"...
What a sin!
The American government is far, far more conservative, in the colloquial American sense of the term, than its people.
Think of almost every issue: the electorate disagrees with its leaders. They just vote for tweedle dee or dum because tweedle dum or dee is even worse.
Once again the libs are nothing but feeling good for themselves f.a.k.e left.
While reading these comments I had a horrible vision of Obama appointing Lieberman to the Supreme Court.
Nothing from Obummer surprises me anymore.
This man wrote a book about himself when he was in college. Each day, I regard him as a bigger embarrassment to Harvard, Columbia, and Occidental College. Can you imagine him facing Alan Dershowitz in court? That could make a good topic for MAD magazine.
Trylon
Personally, I would prefer to see him debate Senator Al Franken, he would suffer embarrassments galore. If you want to see what happens to a conservative who debates Mr. Franken, check out what happened to Bill O'Reilly at the 2004 Los Angeles book fair. Franken verbally sliced and diced O'Reilly till he was beating his hands on the table and was screaming at Franken. That is what I would like to see happen to Barack Obama or any other conservative. If you need a newer example just look at how Sen. Franken got all 41 of the Republican Senators to line up on the side of defending the rape of a young American women working for I believe it was KBR over in Iraq in some legislation earlier this year. It truly was an embarrassing moment for the Republicans. Don' buy into the bullshit, Barack Obama is not a liberal or progressive, the nicest thing that can be said about him is that he is a coroporate democrat. And that is what is wrong with the Democratic Party, nuf said!
Greenwald is missing the obvious. When Obama says the liberal Justices over-reached and made decisions in "error," he's stating his true opinion and signaling his intent to nominate a right-wing justice.
Obama has made similar statements before. During the campaign candidate Obama praised Ronald Reagan, saying he "changed the trajectory of America," reigning in the "excesses of the 1960s and 1970's." What excesses? The hallmarks of that era were civil rights, the peace movement, environmental protection, occupational safety and health, consumer rights and protections, and equal rights for women.
As President, Obama has shown disdain for each of those, with modest exceptions for civil and equal rights. Now, he will nominate a Supreme Court Justice with a similar perspective.
I agree.
i guess most of us , including greenwald are just wasting words on this Obama.
state it , repeatedly, as he really is:
a dyed in the wool CONSERVATIVE . he tries to pretend to be "all colors" , or "the one for everyone" , he tries to wear a "coat of many colors" ...
but in truth - obvious - he is just a conservative...the same kind that brings disasters everywhere that have run the globe and the usa for generations. there is no need to "finesse" obama's moves and attributes.
CORPORATIST, CONSERVATIVE, WARMONGERING, ANTI-LABOR, ELITIST, ECONOMIC WARFARE, ANTI-social, IMPERIALIST "president".
that's all.
Both of Greenwald's articles and the New York times article he cites go way beyond Obama's actual words. No where in the quoted words does Obama actually speak in his own voice or make a comment in his own voice critical of the Warren and Burger courts. His saying that "the notion was" or that "it was thought" is true. There were such notions and some people did think the things he said they did. His point, of course, was that for all the talk of the right about judicial activism, the present court is doing the same thing that conservatives ascribed to those liberal courts. There is nothing in those comments from which one could say what Obama really thinks about those courts in general, much less what he thinks about specific decisions made by those courts. In fact, the real harm that will come from those comments will be from the comments of men like Greenwald who treat their own characterizations of what Obama said as things he actually said. Obama's words are unlikely to provide much fodder for those who oppose liberal judicial nominations simply because they are far to vague to say with precision what Obama meant to convey, other than his opinion that the Roberts court has become a judicially activist court of the right. What will be quoted are the unjustified characterizations of people like Mr. Greenwald. Once again the people on our side shoot themselves in the foot.
Obama's actual words:
“It used to be that the notion of an activist judge was somebody who ignored the will of Congress, ignored democratic processes, and tried to impose judicial solutions on problems instead of letting the process work itself through politically. And in the ’60s and ’70s, the feeling was — is that liberals were guilty of that kind of approach. What you’re now seeing, I think, is a conservative jurisprudence that oftentimes makes the same error.”
Is the "conservative jurisprudence" we see today just a "notion," or is it real? Obama says he "sees," and he "thinks," it's real.
And, he says it "makes the same error" that liberal jurisprudence made "in the '60s and '70s."
What "error" is that? Ignoring "the will of Congress, ignored democratic processes, and [trying] to impose judicial solutions on problems instead of letting the process work itself through politically."
In stating his opinion that today's "conservative jurisprudence" is real, and that it "makes the same error" of judicial activism that liberal judges made previously, Obama reveals his opinion that said liberal judicial activism was also real, and not just a "notion."
Regarding Obama's stated preference for "letting the process work itself through politically," Jacob Freeze recently said on FDL,
"When the 'over-active' Warren Court wrote its unanimous 9-0 opinion in Brown v. Board of Education, for example, no less than 17 states still enforced de jure segregation of schools.
So in order to attain the necessary two-thirds majority of approval by state legislatures required for a Constitutional Convention, black Americans would have had to wait for 34 integrationist legislatures to over-rule the 17 segregationist states…
And that means they would have had to wait for the 51st state to be admitted to the Union, and that means…They would still be waiting."